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HUTCHYHIBBY
12-01-2016, 10:52 PM
Nae great loss, that is all.

MSK
13-01-2016, 05:45 AM
Nae great loss, that is all.Agree with that

AndyM_1875
13-01-2016, 06:24 AM
Evil beyond belief.

steakbake
13-01-2016, 11:44 AM
The Olympic 400m guy? Why the hate?

Mr White
13-01-2016, 11:48 AM
The Olympic 400m guy? Why the hate?

Kidnapper and murderer of caroline hogg from portobello in 1983 amongst others. Evil ****.

steakbake
13-01-2016, 12:34 PM
Kidnapper and murderer of caroline hogg from portobello in 1983 amongst others. Evil ****.

Ive vaguely heard of him. No loss though of course, for his family.

Hibernia&Alba
13-01-2016, 01:33 PM
Notorious paedophile and child murderer; one of his victims was Caroline Hogg from Portobello, as has been said. I could never support capital punishment, but the likes of Black are of no use to anybody. I hope he suffered at the end.

Jonnyboy
13-01-2016, 02:04 PM
The Olympic 400m guy? Why the hate?

That was Roger Black.

As for the child killer I hope it was a slow and painful death

HUTCHYHIBBY
13-01-2016, 02:38 PM
A guy that used to stay in my stair was taken into custody but enventually released without charge for one of Blacks murders, the police were not taking any chances that day, quite scary to witness as a 12/13 year old laddie.

PS It wasnae my old man!

ACLeith
13-01-2016, 03:36 PM
Notorious paedophile and child murderer; one of his victims was Caroline Hogg from Portobello, as has been said. I could never support capital punishment, but the likes of Black are of no use to anybody. I hope he suffered at the end.

Was driving through Portobello a few days later, the police were stopping everyone in the hope of getting any clue, but sadly I had nothing I could give them. He was caught in Stow after abducting yet another girl, I used to work beside someone from that village whose young daughter had been approached by him earlier that day, but he had failed in that attempt.

He was convicted of 4 abductions and murders, but suspected of more than that. He never showed remorse. They all happened over a relatively short timescale, inconceivable that they were his only crimes, but never gave parents of other missing girls any kind of closure by admitting anything.

AndyM_1875
13-01-2016, 03:57 PM
Was driving through Portobello a few days later, the police were stopping everyone in the hope of getting any clue, but sadly I had nothing I could give them. He was caught in Stow after abducting yet another girl, I used to work beside someone from that village whose young daughter had been approached by him earlier that day, but he had failed in that attempt.

He was convicted of 4 abductions and murders, but suspected of more than that. He never showed remorse. They all happened over a relatively short timescale, inconceivable that they were his only crimes, but never gave parents of other missing girls any kind of closure by admitting anything.

The Police reckon he was responsible for at least another 4 child murders in the UK.
They were apparently going to charge him in the next couple of months with the abduction and murder of Jeanette Tate whose body has never been found. I have a mate in the Police who told me that Black was grilled for years about other cases and they set their best Psychologists to interview him. All got nothing out of him as he used to just shut down in front of them. My mate said he struggled with the Black cases as he did not want the sick ******* crawling around his thoughts and that without doubt he was still one of the most dangerous men alive in the UK.

Jay
13-01-2016, 04:06 PM
The Police reckon he was responsible for at least another 4 child murders in the UK.
They were apparently going to charge him in the next couple of months with the abduction and murder of Jeanette Tate whose body has never been found. I have a mate in the Police who told me that Black was grilled for years about other cases and they set their best Psychologists to interview him. All got nothing out of him as he used to just shut down in front of them. My mate said he struggled with the Black cases as he did not want the sick ******* crawling around his thoughts and that without doubt he was still one of the most dangerous men alive in the UK.

My dad was a prison officer and he said Black was an animal. There were very few inmates he despised but he was one of them. They knew he had killed those girls but couldn't get the evidence for years and he refused to cooperate.

Sir David Gray
13-01-2016, 04:10 PM
Hope he rots in hell.

Pete
13-01-2016, 04:27 PM
A description of his childhood makes for grim reading. I just hope as a society we are in a better position to spot the warning signs and act accordingly.

James70
13-01-2016, 05:26 PM
If it hadn't been for the wonderful reactions of a postmaster in Stow he could have gone on with his evil spree of child snatching and murder for years longer.

Hibernia&Alba
13-01-2016, 05:27 PM
A description of his childhood makes for grim reading. I just hope as a society we are in a better position to spot the warning signs and act accordingly.

I remember watching this documentary, but it's no excuse for becoming the monster he was.

https://youtu.be/rDKSGZkzDyg

Pretty Boy
13-01-2016, 05:52 PM
I really hope he didn't die a peaceful and dignified death.

johnbc70
13-01-2016, 06:28 PM
I was 8 when Caroline Hogg was abducted and I can still remember all 'Missing' posters around Edinburgh at the time, especially down at Portobello where my gran used to take me down to play the machines. Think that my sister is also called Caroline means it has always been something I keep getting reminded about.

EH6 Hibby
13-01-2016, 09:17 PM
I remember watching this documentary, but it's no excuse for becoming the monster he was.

https://youtu.be/rDKSGZkzDyg

There is an interesting program on 5 on Demand about Robert Black.

The presenter is an expert in Criminology and investigates other crimes that fit Black's MO.

lord bunberry
13-01-2016, 10:43 PM
My Mrs was friends with Caroline Hogg and she had been in her house the day she went missing. She can't really remember it, but the police were in her house that day trying to find out where she was.
I hope the ******* rots in hell.

Scottie
14-01-2016, 09:10 PM
Hope he suffered the most horrendous death imaginable but I fear not.

Personally I would have torchered him daily until he confessed to all of his crimes but unfortunately British justice looks after peodofiles and murderers like Black.

Dashing Bob S
15-01-2016, 02:49 AM
Hope he suffered the most horrendous death imaginable but I fear not.

Personally I would have torchered him daily until he confessed to all of his crimes but unfortunately British justice looks after peodofiles and murderers like Black.

Do you mean by this you would have tortured him daily, or torched him, with a burning flame on a daily basis?

Scottie
15-01-2016, 07:33 AM
Do you mean by this you would have tortured him daily, or torched him, with a burning flame on a daily basis?
Both Bob tortured and torched and for good measure mutilate.

southfieldhibby
15-01-2016, 12:31 PM
As a porty boy I can mind the events well, from being kept in to my parents out looking for Caroline.Sends shivers down my spine. Vaguely knew her brother Stuart.

I really do hope he suffered miserably.

And the postie from Stowe also passed away last weekend.Strange coincidence.

Hibby Bairn
16-01-2016, 05:29 PM
Hope he suffered the most horrendous death imaginable but I fear not.

Personally I would have torchered him daily until he confessed to all of his crimes but unfortunately British justice looks after peodofiles and murderers like Black.

In what way does UK justice look after them?

lord bunberry
16-01-2016, 07:19 PM
In what way does UK justice look after them?
The same way it looks after all criminals. Your username would suggest that you agree with scrapping the human rights charter that makes sure criminals like Black enjoy privileges that some hard working families can only dream about.

Hibby Bairn
16-01-2016, 08:20 PM
You haven't answered the question. How.does UK justice look after them?

lord bunberry
16-01-2016, 09:14 PM
You haven't answered the question. How.does UK justice look after them?
It looks after them by providing safety for the most disgusting people this country produces. It gives them access to human rights that these animals deny their victims. We have people lobbying for these people to have the tight to vote in general elections. Families never recover from the crimes people like Black commit, but the state prioritises reforming criminals while the victims receive little or no support.

Hibby Bairn
16-01-2016, 09:18 PM
It looks after them by providing safety for the most disgusting people this country produces. It gives them access to human rights that these animals deny their victims. We have people lobbying for these people to have the tight to vote in general elections. Families never recover from the crimes people like Black commit, but the state prioritises reforming criminals while the victims receive little or no support.

OK. So what would you suggest we do?

Bristolhibby
17-01-2016, 07:45 AM
How did this guy get on in Prision? With the other Cons?

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Killiehibbie
18-01-2016, 05:37 PM
OK. So what would you suggest we do?
Death penalty for the likes of Black.

Aldo
18-01-2016, 06:57 PM
Crimes committed where capital punishment should of been used IMHO.

Hibby Bairn
18-01-2016, 07:47 PM
What? Executing people? Like they do in the USA and Saudi Arabia?

Bring back state executions?

Scottie
18-01-2016, 08:24 PM
What? Executing people? Like they do in the USA and Saudi Arabia?

Bring back state executions?
So what do YOU suggest should be done with monsters like Black ?

Hibby Bairn
18-01-2016, 08:56 PM
So what do YOU suggest should be done with monsters like Black ?

I don't know. But I don't think we should be executing people.

CropleyWasGod
18-01-2016, 10:29 PM
So what do YOU suggest should be done with monsters like Black ?

Killing them doesn't stop the problem. As a society, we need to understand why these things happen. Only by knowing that have we any chance of preventing them in the future.

People like Black have a part to play in that research. Whether it's by physical ( as in genome) or psychological means, I would say that that their debt to society can be better repaid by that, rather than just getting rid of them.

Sir David Gray
18-01-2016, 10:46 PM
I don't know. But I don't think we should be executing people.

I wouldn't execute anyone either but there has to be a happy medium between justice Saudi Arabia style and the status quo in the UK.

At least this guy died behind bars which isn't always the case with dangerous individuals in this country.

Dashing Bob S
18-01-2016, 11:50 PM
Killing them doesn't stop the problem. As a society, we need to understand why these things happen. Only by knowing that have we any chance of preventing them in the future.

People like Black have a part to play in that research. Whether it's by physical ( as in genome) or psychological means, I would say that that their debt to society can be better repaid by that, rather than just getting rid of them.

Makes sense to me. Killing somebody like that is a soft option for them. Most mass murderers try to end their own lives if they can. People like Black are never getting out of prison and couldn't function if they did. Death would be a welcome release for him. I personally wish they'd been able to keep the piece of **** alive and miserable in cramped cell a little longer.

lord bunberry
19-01-2016, 08:33 AM
I would deny people like black any sort of comforts. I'd make them live in a cell with just a bed and a toilet and minimum contact with anyone else. He took the lives of at least 4 children, denying them and their families the right to a happy life, for that he should be made to suffer the rest of his miserable life.

Pete
19-01-2016, 03:12 PM
I wouldn't execute anyone either but there has to be a happy medium between justice Saudi Arabia style and the status quo in the UK.

At least this guy died behind bars which isn't always the case with dangerous individuals in this country.

To be honest I think the British justice system is pretty soft if all they do in prison is make criminals listen to status quo.

on second thoughts...

Sir David Gray
19-01-2016, 06:30 PM
I would deny people like black any sort of comforts. I'd make them live in a cell with just a bed and a toilet and minimum contact with anyone else. He took the lives of at least 4 children, denying them and their families the right to a happy life, for that he should be made to suffer the rest of his miserable life.

:agree: They should spend 23 hours a day locked in their cell, with access to a bed and a toilet and provided with three meals a day and water whenever it's required.

For one hour a day, they should be allowed out to have a shower and get some exercise in a yard or something like that.

I think it's important to remember here that people like Black are taking the lives of real people. People who will no longer have the chance to grow up, develop their personalities, get a job, get married, have their own children or any of that kind of thing that everyone else just takes for granted and the parents, and other loved ones of these children, have to face every single day with the heartbreak of being without them.

That's the reality of the impact that Black's crimes (and others like him) have had and the punishment needs to be far more appropriate for the offence.