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lucky
04-01-2016, 10:58 PM
Front page of tomorrow's Herald saying Phil Boswell is facing suspension from the party over a sleeze probe.
Whilst the front page of the Mail claims Lisa Cameron has bought several ex council houses in her constituency and rents them out at high rates despite calling for an end of the sale of them. Her company is run by her husband who was declared bankrupt 3 years ago.
You do have to wonder over the vetting of these characters by the SNP.
Beefster
05-01-2016, 05:43 AM
You're just going to get repeatedly told why these cases are different/fine and how other parties are no better. There will no doubt be a WoS link at some point.
Moulin Yarns
05-01-2016, 05:50 AM
Must be a slow news day.
This from month ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348977/Another-SNP-MP-caught-financial-scandal-Phil-Boswell-admits-benefiting-tax-avoidance-scheme.html
Today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3384774/Hypocrisy-SNP-MP-630-000-property-empire-Nationalist-snaps-former-council-homes-makes-fortune-rental-income-despite-opposing-sale-social-housing.html
Notice the papers that got the 'Scoop'
Hibrandenburg
05-01-2016, 06:03 AM
Meanwhile back in the Motherland politicians of other parties remain squeaky clean.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/labour-mp-simon-danczuk-facing-police-inquiry-rape-allegation
marinello59
05-01-2016, 06:12 AM
Must be a slow news day.
This from month ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348977/Another-SNP-MP-caught-financial-scandal-Phil-Boswell-admits-benefiting-tax-avoidance-scheme.html
Today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3384774/Hypocrisy-SNP-MP-630-000-property-empire-Nationalist-snaps-former-council-homes-makes-fortune-rental-income-despite-opposing-sale-social-housing.html
Notice the papers that got the 'Scoop'
Look away, there's nothing to see here.
Must be a slow news day.
This from month ago.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3348977/Another-SNP-MP-caught-financial-scandal-Phil-Boswell-admits-benefiting-tax-avoidance-scheme.html
Today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3384774/Hypocrisy-SNP-MP-630-000-property-empire-Nationalist-snaps-former-council-homes-makes-fortune-rental-income-despite-opposing-sale-social-housing.html
Notice the papers that got the 'Scoop'
The last one is absolutely infuriating. It's because of greedy pigs like them that youngsters don't have a bloody hope in hell of owning their own homes. How can they ever claim to be the peoples party when they have people at their core who behave like this? Home ownership is the dream for so many people yet they are being forced out by those like Dr . Cameron who see housing as nothing more than an investment.
No wonder these people try and demonise Jeremy Corbyn at every opportunity. Their pension pot portfolios would be decimated.
johnbc70
05-01-2016, 07:29 AM
http://wingsoverscotland.con/thesnpareinnocentiswasthatotherlotthatdoneit
Hibrandenburg
05-01-2016, 08:14 AM
http://wingsoverscotland.con/thesnpareinnocentiswasthatotherlotthatdoneit
Link doesn't work.
Hiber-nation
05-01-2016, 09:28 AM
Link doesn't work.
I see its Wingsoverscotland.con
Quite apt!
Northernhibee
05-01-2016, 09:35 AM
The last one is absolutely infuriating. It's because of greedy pigs like them that youngsters don't have a bloody hope in hell of owning their own homes. How can they ever claim to be the peoples party when they have people at their core who behave like this? Home ownership is the dream for so many people yet they are being forced out by those like Dr . Cameron who see housing as nothing more than an investment.
No wonder these people try and demonise Jeremy Corbyn at every opportunity. Their pension pot portfolios would be decimated.
That's because Labour have far more left wing credentials and why they are attached much more than the Tories who the SNP have more in common with.
If you want left of centre policies, vote Labour.
ronaldo7
05-01-2016, 05:28 PM
That's because Labour have far more left wing credentials and why they are attached much more than the Tories who the SNP have more in common with.
If you want left of centre policies, vote Labour.
:agree: Scottish Labour, giving middle class young professionals a few grand from the pockets of working class holidaymakers.:na na:
lucky
05-01-2016, 07:08 PM
I'd rather see people get homes than cutting air passenger duty. But your argument can be reversed on you with no tuition fees for the kids of the middle class and cutting college places to pay for it.
ronaldo7
05-01-2016, 08:42 PM
I'd rather see people get homes than cutting air passenger duty. But your argument can be reversed on you with no tuition fees for the kids of the middle class and cutting college places to pay for it.
I'd rather cut the duty to boost the local economies to get jobs and the yuppies can ask daddy for the cash.
I'm sure you'd like people getting homes, and that's why the Scottish Gov have built lots more with an SNP group rather than with Labour. Them's the facts.:aok:
Back you your OP.
You probably won't be aware that among others Karl Turner MP Labour (Kingston upon Hull east), and Justin Tomlinson MP Conservative ( North Swindon) are being investigated by the Parliamentary commissioner for standards. I've trawled all the front pages of the MSM and can't find anything on these guys. Funny that eh.:wink: The case of Boswell will be one of many this year to go to the Commissioner, and if accepted he should face his punishment. I wonder if you want the vetting procedures of the Labour/Tory parties tightened. We need to know:rolleyes:
Last year their were 464 referrals and 17 were accepted.
lucky
06-01-2016, 01:06 PM
So are you saying that a young person buying a house is a "yuppie". A 1980s word and attitude. Yes I want more affordable housing more social housing but no government in Scotland has come close to making an impression on this issue.
Cutting APD by £10-£20 makes very little difference as to why someone would visit Scotland and as such make no difference to the economy.
JeMeSouviens
06-01-2016, 01:12 PM
So are you saying that a young person buying a house is a "yuppie". A 1980s word and attitude. Yes I want more affordable housing more social housing but no government in Scotland has come close to making an impression on this issue.
Cutting APD by £10-£20 makes very little difference as to why someone would visit Scotland and as such make no difference to the economy.
If you are right on the latter point, it will fail as an experiment and be put back up tout de suite!
But, not making the experiment in the first place and so not cutting APD does not create extra money to give to the first time buyers! So, what are Labour proposing to cut or how will they raise the extra revenue required?
ronaldo7
06-01-2016, 02:28 PM
So are you saying that a young person buying a house is a "yuppie". A 1980s word and attitude. Yes I want more affordable housing more social housing but no government in Scotland has come close to making an impression on this issue.
Cutting APD by £10-£20 makes very little difference as to why someone would visit Scotland and as such make no difference to the economy.
I'd say the SNP have made inroads to the social housing area since 2007, I can't recall the numbers, but it's in the thousands, and they didn't have to do much to beat Labour into second position with their 6 house build programme.
On the subject of APD
Take a read at these, most people agree that the reduction/abolition of APD will be good for jobs/economy/passengers/new destinations.
http://news.scotland.gov.uk/News/Air-Passenger-Duty-1bc7.aspx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29802846
Moulin Yarns
06-01-2016, 02:33 PM
I'd say the SNP have made inroads to the social housing area since 2007, I can't recall the numbers, but it's in the thousands, and they didn't have to do much to beat Labour into second position with their 6 house build programme.
I think it is policy, whether Scottish Government or Local Government, that there is usually a proportion of all new developments are affordable homes. Smaller developments usually pay a sum towards social housing. Plus Housing Associations are building a load of houses
Beefster
15-01-2016, 05:48 AM
Just in the news that Boswell claimed £450 on expenses for a 'promotional video'.
MPs of all parties are still making dubious claims but I suspect this forum is going to be less interested in it this time round for some unknown reason...
Northernhibee
15-01-2016, 11:29 AM
You're just going to get repeatedly told why these cases are different/fine and how other parties are no better. There will no doubt be a WoS link at some point.
I've also heard nothing about the SNP member for Aberdeenshire West who claimed there was no oil crisis despite tens of thousands losing their jobs?
Their rhetoric might have changed but they're still the Tartan Tories.
Northernhibee
17-01-2016, 08:32 AM
Not heard much about this either? http://news.sky.com/story/1624059/snp-aide-suspended-over-anti-islamic-texts
Peevemor
17-01-2016, 09:52 AM
Not heard much about this either? http://news.sky.com/story/1624059/snp-aide-suspended-over-anti-islamic-texts
So what? It's been dealt with.
bawheid
17-01-2016, 12:21 PM
I can't help but feel that the constant attacks on the SNP are missing the mark. What happened in 2014 convinced a decent section of the electorate that Scotland should be an independent country. For me, it's not so much about the SNP as a political party, but my belief that we should be free from Westminster rule and govern our own affairs. The SNP just happen to be the only realistic vehicle to achieving that goal. I'd probably just as likely vote for a left of centre Scottish Labour Party - for example - should they share my view on the fundamental way the country is run.
A couple of MPs or local councillors, who happen to be members of the SNP, acting a bit naughty is not going to change the view I formed before the referendum. I wonder if Scottish Labour is still stuck playing party politics when something more fundamental has happened to the political landscape?
Northernhibee
17-01-2016, 05:02 PM
So what? It's been dealt with.
"So what". The typical attitude of anything awry in the SNP today.
The problem is that for all the promise of a different style of politics the SNP are the same out of touch, snouts in the trough hypocrites that they claim to stand against.
Peevemor
17-01-2016, 05:49 PM
"So what". The typical attitude of anything awry in the SNP today.
The problem is that for all the promise of a different style of politics the SNP are the same out of touch, snouts in the trough hypocrites that they claim to stand against.
Utter crap! All political parties attract some bampots. This guy stepped out of line and it's been dealt with.
If you're looking for a problem, it's people spending too much time on petty point scoring instead of focusing on the main issues/problems.
lucky
17-01-2016, 06:03 PM
Utter crap! All political parties attract some bampots. This guy stepped out of line and it's been dealt with.
If you're looking for a problem, it's people spending too much time on petty point scoring instead of focusing on the main issues/problems.
This guy is a councillor and works for the deputy leader. Clearly he is a right winger who believes in independence but his comments are disgusting but focus must be in Hosie as well as his employer.
ronaldo7
17-01-2016, 06:14 PM
I'm surprised that the Labour guys on here, have not posted up the Labour party turmoil in North Lanarkshire.:wink:
Just for "BALANCE", :rolleyes:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13197377.Councillor_axing_leads_to_split_in_Labour _s_ranks/
Northernhibee
17-01-2016, 07:01 PM
I'm surprised that the Labour guys on here, have not posted up the Labour party turmoil in North Lanarkshire.:wink:
Just for "BALANCE", :rolleyes:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13197377.Councillor_axing_leads_to_split_in_Labour _s_ranks/
And of course you're all about balance, aren't you? :rolleyes:
ronaldo7
17-01-2016, 07:13 PM
And of course you're all about balance, aren't you? :rolleyes:
I've been asked not to use the words Red Tory so I won't.:wink:
Northernhibee
17-01-2016, 07:51 PM
I've been asked not to use the words Red Tory so I won't.:wink:
Maybe one day you'll learn what left wing politics actually means, then you can follow it :wink:
Besides, the SNP hate discrimination against minorities. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/17/snp-reinstates-councillor-who-warned-men-to-guard-your-circle-around-gay-politician/
Future17
18-01-2016, 01:25 PM
"So what". The typical attitude of anything awry in the SNP today.
The problem is that for all the promise of a different style of politics the SNP are the same out of touch, snouts in the trough hypocrites that they claim to stand against.
In what way is the story you've referred to an example of the bit in bold? :confused:
ronaldo7
18-01-2016, 05:06 PM
Maybe one day you'll learn what left wing politics actually means, then you can follow it :wink:
Besides, the SNP hate discrimination against minorities. http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/17/snp-reinstates-councillor-who-warned-men-to-guard-your-circle-around-gay-politician/
:tee hee: If I need to move more to the left then it would be to the Greens/Rise, along with comrade Fox etc. If I move a couple of steps to the right, I'd bump into you.:wink:
Northernhibee
19-01-2016, 06:52 AM
:tee hee: If I need to move more to the left then it would be to the Greens/Rise, along with comrade Fox etc. If I move a couple of steps to the right, I'd bump into you.:wink:
So what about the SNP members who abstained against a Labour proposal to make landlords more liable for the living conditions of their tenants? Suppose your buy to let SNP leeches need to maximise their profit, very left wing ;-) #Toriesindisguise
ronaldo7
19-01-2016, 07:41 AM
So what about the SNP members who abstained against a Labour proposal to make landlords more liable for the living conditions of their tenants? Suppose your buy to let SNP leeches need to maximise their profit, very left wing ;-) #Toriesindisguise
Which proposal would this be?
Is it the one which was voted for England in Planning and Housing where all SNP MPs were locked out of the vote due to EVEL?
How did the 50 Labour Landlords vote?
We really need to know.:aok:
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