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Diclonius
08-10-2015, 04:13 PM
Roll up lads, time for the biennial "lads tried wir best, always the next tournament eh" game. Any team news?

lyonhibs
08-10-2015, 04:25 PM
Seemingly he's sticking with Fletcher up top on his tod :rolleyes:

Delighted to be proven wrong, but we need to win and that needs confident, on form strikers. That's what Griffiths is right now.

Matty_Jack04
08-10-2015, 04:48 PM
Should be playing 2 strikers I'm not going to bother with it if it's fletch up top it's no good for us and no good for him

Treadstone
08-10-2015, 05:10 PM
Never could make up my mind about James Forrest until recently.

He is a very poor player.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 05:15 PM
Never could make up my mind about James Forrest until recently.

He is a very poor player.

He's got zero end product, about 1 in 50 of his mazy runs end in a decent cross or shot. He just runs with his head down until he's tackled or spoons the ball out of play. I don't rate him at all.

lucky
08-10-2015, 05:18 PM
Not confident. 0-2 to Poland but live in hope

bingo70
08-10-2015, 05:19 PM
Surprised to see a draw tonight could well be good enough.

Imo Ireland will lose to Germany abd good chance they'll get beat off Poland too (that game is in Poland eh?)

Don't think tonight as much of a must win as most are suggesting.

WeeRussell
08-10-2015, 05:23 PM
Surprised to see a draw tonight could well be good enough.

Imo Ireland will lose to Germany abd good chance they'll get beat off Poland too (that game is in Poland eh?)

Don't think tonight as much of a must win as most are suggesting.

You're spot on. Unfortunately it is (at least) must draw though...

Not confident night... but I was wrong about the Georgia game so hopefully I am wrong about this too :rolleyes:

C'mon Scotland!

bingo70
08-10-2015, 05:27 PM
You're spot on. Unfortunately it is (at least) must draw though...

Not confident night... but I was wrong about the Georgia game so hopefully I am wrong about this too :rolleyes:

C'mon Scotland!

My concern is if it's a draw Ireland decide they'd rather just play out a draw abd take third than risk losing out all together and play out a dull nil nil with both teams passing it around their own defences. Suppose to eliminate that prospect tonight is a must win. Like to think that wouldn't happen though.

Gordy M
08-10-2015, 05:32 PM
Totally confident we will win. Apart from the georgia away match we have played well, and a win tonight means we have taken 4/6 points from our two main rivals, poland and roi, and deserve at least a playoff. Imo.

bigwheel
08-10-2015, 05:43 PM
Surprised to see Forrest starting tonight ...

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 05:47 PM
Surprised to see Forrest starting tonight ...

I'm not, he plays for Celtic. Mulgrew would have still been in the team if fit as well.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 05:56 PM
Marshall, Hutton, Whittaker, R.Martin, Hanley, Forrest, D.Fletcher, Brown (C), S.Fletcher, Naismith, Ritchie


murder.

SteveHFC
08-10-2015, 05:57 PM
Atmosphere is mental inside Hampden. A lot of Poland fans in my section.

Jim44
08-10-2015, 05:59 PM
I'd have taken a wee chance on Griffiths. However, Strachan must be satisfied with Fletcher in training.

JimBHibees
08-10-2015, 06:02 PM
Marshall, Hutton, Whittaker, R.Martin, Hanley, Forrest, D.Fletcher, Brown (C), S.Fletcher, Naismith, Ritchie


murder.

who would you have picked? Personally would have Whitty at right back and Robertson left back. Not sure about playing Forrest though we are incredibly lacking in pace. Also not sure about Griffiths up front on his own so can understand Fletcher as a target.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:05 PM
who would you have picked? Personally would have Whitty at right back and Robertson left back. Not sure about playing Forrest though we are incredibly lacking in pace. Also not sure about Griffiths up front on his own so can understand Fletcher as a target.

Robertson would always play for me. id have gone 352 but strachan always plays 4231..... Id have Rhodes and Griff before fletcher. Huge task for Brown in the middle. Worth a bet for a yellow.

Edit - Id have found a place for Macauthur too. I'd also have Hanlon in there too! ;-)

Scottie
08-10-2015, 06:06 PM
Marshall, Hutton, Whittaker, R.Martin, Hanley, Forrest, D.Fletcher, Brown (C), S.Fletcher, Naismith, Ritchie


murder.
Murders an understatement. That back 4 is slower than a day in Barlinnie. :rolleyes:

Hope im wrong but I fear the worst tonight. Come on Scotland get into them. :aok:

JimBHibees
08-10-2015, 06:08 PM
Robertson would always play for me. id have gone 352 but strachan always plays 4231..... Id have Rhodes and Griff before fletcher. Huge task for Brown in the middle. Worth a bet for a yellow.

He does play the same system, think you might be right with 3 centre backs especially against Lewandowski. Fletcher needs a player up with him. Him and Griffiths would have been a handful also. Wouldnt be surprised if Brown got a red as he looks off it the last few games.

Gordy M
08-10-2015, 06:08 PM
Robertson would always play for me. id have gone 352 but strachan always plays 4231..... Id have Rhodes and Griff before fletcher. Huge task for Brown in the middle. Worth a bet for a yellow.
Im sorry but robertson was absolutely woeful in his last game for scotland and im not sure he is playing every week for hull. Griffiths and rhodes dont hold the ball up and u need that in international football unless you are totally going to dominate the game. Im sorry but apart from georgia away im not sure you can critisize strachan and his selections.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 06:09 PM
who would you have picked? Personally would have Whitty at right back and Robertson left back. Not sure about playing Forrest though we are incredibly lacking in pace. Also not sure about Griffiths up front on his own so can understand Fletcher as a target.

Griffiths was often superb up front on his own for us.

Holds the ball up well and works hard enough to justify the role. Add to that that he's a goalscorer and I'd have started him ahead of Fletcher who has single figure goals in nearly 40 games.

GreenLake
08-10-2015, 06:11 PM
I have very little chance of watching this. We will probably win in a stylish entertaining fashion.

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 06:13 PM
Should have gone with Leigh over fletch. Griffiths and Naismith are the inform strikers ATM. Maloney on the bench too, thought he'd have been a starter.

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 06:14 PM
Atmosphere is mental inside Hampden. A lot of Poland fans in my section.

Be like a home game for them 😁

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 06:15 PM
Griffiths was often superb up front on his own for us.

Holds the ball up well and works hard enough to justify the role. Add to that that he's a goalscorer and I'd have started him ahead of Fletcher who has single figure goals in nearly 40 games.

Defo mate, for a wee guy he plays the upfront on his own role very well. It's Poland though they will be strong at the back. I'd personally have went with 2 strikers tonight.
U need an ibrahimovic type players for 1 up to really work, and fletch defo ain't that player!

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 06:15 PM
Should have gone with Leigh over fletch. Griffiths and Naismith are the inform strikers ATM. Maloney on the bench too, thought he'd have been a starter.

Agree with this!

JimBHibees
08-10-2015, 06:16 PM
Griffiths was often superb up front on his own for us.

Holds the ball up well and works hard enough to justify the role. Add to that that he's a goalscorer and I'd have started him ahead of Fletcher who has single figure goals in nearly 40 games.

Do you think he would be able to do that at this level? Have my doubts to be honest though I think we should have created a system where maybe both could play.

Hibs90
08-10-2015, 06:17 PM
What does Griffiths need to do to get a start ffs

Hibs90
08-10-2015, 06:18 PM
Be like a home game for them 😁

Hehehe

ancient hibee
08-10-2015, 06:18 PM
The left is the wrong side for Whittaker.Presumably he's picked for his attacking as nobody is going to pick him for defensive reasons-in which case he should be on the right.If you can't beat teams below you in the rankings you don't deserve to go through.

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 06:20 PM
Disappointed with the starting line up, WGS should have taken a punt on others. I'll be delighted to be proven wrong, come on Scotland.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 06:20 PM
Do you think he would be able to do that at this level? Have my doubts to be honest though I think we should have created a system where maybe both could play.

I've no idea but Fletcher has hardly been effective at international level lately so might have been worth changing it up.

bingo70
08-10-2015, 06:20 PM
What does Griffiths need to do to get a start ffs

I've never thought he's done well when playing for Scotland, to get more starts he probably needs to start making more of an impact when he comes on.

Appreciate Fletcher hasn't done that well either but I still think Griffiths needs to offer more when he gets the chance.

JimBHibees
08-10-2015, 06:21 PM
I've no idea but Fletcher has hardly been effective at international level lately so might have been worth changing it up.

Wouldnt disagree with that and he is much more of a goal threat that is for sure.

SteveHFC
08-10-2015, 06:21 PM
Be like a home game for them 😁

:faf:

WellingtonHibby
08-10-2015, 06:21 PM
No coverage at all in NZ. Would have liked to have seen the latest glorious failure instalment.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 06:40 PM
Steven Fletcher has scored 13 goals in his last 156 games for club and country, that doesn't inspire much confidence for me to be honest when he's playing up front on his own.

I believe that he's scored just three goals in his last 18 appearances for Scotland and they all came in one match against Gibraltar.

I hope he proves me wrong but it's not the decision I would have made.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 06:40 PM
I think people are being incredibly harsh on Steven Fletcher recently. Poor game in Georgia but otherwise he's been excellent this campaign. Good call to start him IMO but Strachan shouldn't be scared to throw Griffiths on early if it's not working. That was the problem vs Georgia.

James Forrest though.... He's never had an 8/10 type performance for Scotland. Bizarre to have him in ahead of McArthur or Maloney - can only assume the latter has a knock

Ritchie and Naismith could be the key tonight

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:42 PM
Right - I'm now very confident. I just played them at Fifa 16. We won 10-0. Fletcher missed some right sitters too and brown was sent off.

johnbc70
08-10-2015, 06:42 PM
LG can create a goal out of nothing while Fletcher needs it to be set up for him. For that reason I would have LG on instead of Fletcher

bingo70
08-10-2015, 06:43 PM
I think people are being incredibly harsh on Steven Fletcher recently. Poor game in Georgia but otherwise he's been excellent this campaign. Good call to start him IMO but Strachan shouldn't be scared to throw Griffiths on early if it's not working. That was the problem vs Georgia.

James Forrest though.... He's never had an 8/10 type performance for Scotland. Bizarre to have him in ahead of McArthur or Maloney - can only assume the latter has a knock

Ritchie and Naismith could be the key tonight

Also worth noting that as lone striker his role is as much about holding it up and creating for others as it is for scoring himself so the stats can be a bit misleading.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Also worth noting that as lone striker his role is as much about holding it up and creating for others as it is for scoring himself so the stats can be a bit misleading.

Exactly - look at his assist in Germany.

Keith_M
08-10-2015, 06:47 PM
Do you think he would be able to do that at this level? Have my doubts to be honest though I think we should have created a system where maybe both could play.


He seems to have stepped up a gear in standard. Seems to have performed OK in European matches.

Worth a try, IMO.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 06:47 PM
mon sconnie botland

:saltireflag

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 06:48 PM
1-0 Poland, Lewandowski.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 06:49 PM
pathetic girly defending


and offside

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Ffs

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Shocking defending!!!

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:49 PM
Right back and right ch....mickey mouse. beaten inside post. joke.

matty_f
08-10-2015, 06:51 PM
Well that wasn't the start we wanted.

J-C
08-10-2015, 06:51 PM
They're just utter pants, defending again was woeful, midfield nowhere :confused:

heretoday
08-10-2015, 06:54 PM
"It's important Scotland don't lose a second...." At least we lead the world in fatuous commentators.

Greencore
08-10-2015, 06:54 PM
Wow:confused:

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:54 PM
They're just utter pants, defending again was woeful, midfield nowhere :confused:

midifield run right past brown...CH dragged in... RB useless.

SaulGoodman
08-10-2015, 06:55 PM
At least losing an early goal takes away the fear of losing an early goal.

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 06:56 PM
Why are we so deep? Strachan needs to really have a look at this set up!!

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:57 PM
Again Hutton.. he just doesn't read the game at all. massive mistake playing him.

kaimendhibs
08-10-2015, 06:58 PM
Shocking defending but it was clearly offside.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:58 PM
Why are we so deep? Strachan needs to really have a look at this set up!!

Our defenders can;t play a single pass without putting midfield into a 50/50.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 06:58 PM
Shocking defending but it was clearly offside.

It was on side.

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 07:00 PM
Why are we so deep? Strachan needs to really have a look at this set up!!

Someone needs to look at Strachan, continuous loyalty to the same players, Hutton shouldn't be anywhere near the Scotland squad. Same scenario different year.

Keith_M
08-10-2015, 07:01 PM
Roll up lads, time for the biennial "lads tried wir best, always the next tournament eh" game.


This.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 07:01 PM
Not a promising start from the ref either

Provan suggesting it's good that Naismith is basically up top with Fletcher. I'm not so sure when we're leaving our midfield so open. Looks like old school British tactics of early cross and test a dodgy keeper

J-C
08-10-2015, 07:01 PM
Again Hutton.. he just doesn't read the game at all. massive mistake playing him.


Is Hutton going out with Strachan's daughter, I can only guess that's why he's playing, he has to be one of the worst RB's to play for Scotland ever, get him off and put Whittaker there.

kaimendhibs
08-10-2015, 07:02 PM
It was on side.

Not from what I saw. Anyway, still shocking defending

Greenblood70
08-10-2015, 07:02 PM
This an absolute shambles of a performance so far.

bingo70
08-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Again Hutton.. he just doesn't read the game at all. massive mistake playing him.

Was it not the right sided centre half? Think it was Martin seemed intent on holding hanleys hand instead of watching lewandowski

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Naismsith screaming at players for playing too deep. Why are our coaching staff sitting up in little seats chatting..get in the technical area and sort this out.

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 07:04 PM
This an absolute shambles of a performance so far.

At the very most he was half a foot offside.

Zazu62
08-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Scotland are brutal

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 07:06 PM
Oh well, looks like this will go down as another glorious failure for Scotland then. :rolleyes:

Roll on the 2018 World Cup.

S4uzee
08-10-2015, 07:07 PM
This is like watching Hibs under Butcher with James Collins running about up front.....

I'm_cabbaged
08-10-2015, 07:07 PM
SB's not half the the player that he thinks he is. Sad really, he should've went down south instead of stagnating in Scotland

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:07 PM
Oh well, looks like this will go down as another glorious failure for Scotland then. :rolleyes:

Roll on the 2018 World Cup.

Not even glorious this is just crap

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 07:07 PM
p*** off ritchie ya e*se ffs


and take that dwarf forest with yi

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 07:10 PM
Georgia 4 Gib 0 FT

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:11 PM
SB's not half the the player that he thinks he is. Sad really, he should've went down south instead of stagnating in Scotland

Browns been poor for a long time. At celtic he has other ball winners next to him...he doesn't get the luxury at scotland.

Zazu62
08-10-2015, 07:11 PM
I honestly think John McGinn would do better than brown or fletcher they are both p ish

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 07:11 PM
We need to show some aggression and let this lot know they are in a game. Somebody needs to put a proper bloody tackle in.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:12 PM
Poland really aren't that good. No excuse for us not to get stuck in and over power them.

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 07:13 PM
Browns been poor for a long time. At celtic he has other ball winners next to him...he doesn't get the luxury at scotland.

At Celtic he gets to dictate and referee the game. At this level he just gets shown up for the wee ned he is.

bigwheel
08-10-2015, 07:13 PM
I honestly think John McGinn would do better than brown or fletcher they are both p ish

Oh come on ...lol. Take your Hibs glasses off

Mon Dieu4
08-10-2015, 07:13 PM
We need to show some aggression and let this lot know they are in a game. Somebody needs to put a proper bloody tackle in.

Correct, everytime Lewandowski gets the ball they just stand in awe, clatter him and give him something to think about

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:13 PM
No ideas when we've got the ball

Lago
08-10-2015, 07:14 PM
I am glad its not a must win game:greengrin

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 07:15 PM
Someone needs to look at Strachan, continuous loyalty to the same players, Hutton shouldn't be anywhere near the Scotland squad. Same scenario different year.

Spot on.

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 07:15 PM
I can't believe how untechnical and slow we are. We are playing terribly. And that should have been 2.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:15 PM
again hutton. may as well watch the ROI game.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:15 PM
Should be 2 so easy for them to play it through us

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:16 PM
Oh come on ...lol. Take your Hibs glasses off

He's not wrong about Brown.

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 07:16 PM
Hutton and s fletcher r terrible

Del Boy
08-10-2015, 07:16 PM
Hutton, Ritchie, Forrest and Steven Fletcher shouldn't be near the team

HibbyAndy
08-10-2015, 07:16 PM
How pish is this ?? S. Fletcher Ritchie Forrest absolute passengers

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 07:17 PM
Scott Brown is poor, he never picks up his man and roams about that midfield.

Strachan as another said is to loyal to some of the players. He's got it wrong so far as we are to deep and not closing down quick enough. Defence very narrow when they attack as well.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:19 PM
Scott Brown is poor, he never picks up his man and roams about that midfield.

Strachan as another said is to loyal to some of the players. He's got it wrong so far as we are to deep and not closing down quick enough. Defence very narrow when they attack as well.

Spot on. I got dogs abuse for suggesting Brown shouldn't be in the team anymore. He does not have a legs to do that job anymore. They are waltzing past him.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:20 PM
Free kick Scotland good position. . . Pish

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 07:20 PM
Does anyone else think fabianski looks like Tom taiwo?

The Harp Awakes
08-10-2015, 07:22 PM
Looks like Strachan has learned nothing from the Georgia game. Playing an off form Steven Fletcher and Naismith in the same team = loads of running and hard work but little goal threat.

A set piece looks like our only chance of scoring.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 07:23 PM
Utter garbage.

Strachan got a lot of praise when he 1st came in but the last 3 and a bit games now have been woeful. Underprepared due to farting about against Qatar whilst getting ready for Ireland (who played England and behind closed doors against NI as prep) and were a million miles off the pace in the 1st half, pish in Georgia, totally outclassed (admittedly unsurprisingly) against Germany and now this tonight. When the tough games have rolled around we have been found wanting big time.

He was happy to take the praise when it was coming his way so he should be prepared to face some tough questions if we don't salvage at least a draw tonight.

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 07:23 PM
Spot on. I got dogs abuse for suggesting Brown shouldn't be in the team anymore. He does not have a legs to do that job anymore. They are waltzing past him.

Yeah I defo think his legs are gone and so seems the talent he had. Looks very poor and has done for a while.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 07:24 PM
Spot on. I got dogs abuse for suggesting Brown shouldn't be in the team anymore. He does not have a legs to do that job anymore. They are waltzing past him.

McArthur must be scratching his head that both Brown and Fletcher are in ahead of him

Ritchie is unfortunate that he's not getting much support and naturally turns infield on his left.

James Forrest is just pish as ever. Must average about 5 touches per cap

Zazu62
08-10-2015, 07:24 PM
Why no Leigh griffiths? Jordan Rhodes?

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 07:25 PM
Spot on. I got dogs abuse for suggesting Brown shouldn't be in the team anymore. He does not have a legs to do that job anymore. They are waltzing past him.
I haven't see Scott dominate a Scotland or celtic European game in years---he's too comfy
He'll retire with a bucketload of Domestic honours---no more than a whole slewofOld Firm players the last 30 years

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 07:28 PM
Yeah I defo think his legs are gone and so seems the talent he had. Looks very poor and has done for a while.

He spends too much time trying to act hard to have any influence on a game. Spent too many years in the comfort zone at Celtic playing against pish.

3pm
08-10-2015, 07:29 PM
Yeah I defo think his legs are gone and so seems the talent he had. Looks very poor and has done for a while.

I don't ever think he was that talented mate.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 07:30 PM
I haven't see Scott dominate a Scotland or celtic European game in years---he's too comfy
He'll retire with a bucketload of Domestic honours---no more than a whole slewofOld Firm players the last 30 years

I dare say I'll get shot down for this but Brown is an example of what happens when a player isn't willing to push themselves to see just how good they are.

Got comfortable at Celtic, has had an enviable career in many ways and maybe was never good enough to make it in England but if he had have been willing to give it a go then who knows?

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
1-1 Matt Ritchie :thumbsup:

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
Thats what was needed. Poland are not a good team! Change at half time 352... hammer them

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
Goaaaallllll ya beauty!!!!!

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
****** heck what a cracker from ritchie....i take it all back :greengrin

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
Yes! Pick it out.

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 07:31 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES what a strike

Thecat23
08-10-2015, 07:33 PM
That was a fantastic strike. COME ON SCOTLAND!!

J-C
08-10-2015, 07:33 PM
Why are we we playing wingers on the wrong sides and as I'm typing this Ritchie hits a cracking left foot strike.

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 07:34 PM
What a finish! Absolute peach.

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 07:34 PM
Why are we we playing wingers on the wrong sides and as I'm typing this Ritchie hits a cracking left foot strike.

Had that thought about two minutes ago!

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:34 PM
Why are we we playing wingers on the wrong sides and as I'm typing this Ritchie hits a cracking left foot strike.

i love playing wingers on wrong side - esp if just one up front.... get them cutting in a shooting and look for the goalie to fumble.

J-C
08-10-2015, 07:35 PM
I dare say I'll get shot down for this but Brown is an example of what happens when a player isn't willing to push themselves to see just how good they are.

Got comfortable at Celtic, has had an enviable career in many ways and maybe was never good enough to make it in England but if he had have been willing to give it a go then who knows?


What happened to that cocky box2box midfielder we saw at Hibs, he's regressed as far as I'm concerned.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 07:36 PM
Why are we we playing wingers on the wrong sides and as I'm typing this Ritchie hits a cracking left foot strike.

I would still switch him and Naismith, let Ritchie drop a bit deeper.

Maloney on for Forrest. McArthur for Darren Fletcher and up the tempo

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 07:36 PM
Just need a goal from Germany now

The Harp Awakes
08-10-2015, 07:37 PM
Some strike. Forrest looking lively in the last 10 minutes. Need to be positive in the 2nd half and go for the win.

J-C
08-10-2015, 07:38 PM
i love playing wingers on wrong side - esp if just one up front.... get them cutting in a shooting and look for the goalie to fumble.


I know it seems to be the new way but I still like to see wingers on the proper sides, Poland have looked dangerous all night playing wide men and getting width. If Hutton and Whittaker were meant to be playing winbgacks, then that hasn't happened as they've never looked like getting forward past the wingers.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 07:39 PM
Spot on from the TV guys... look at Brown..

J-C
08-10-2015, 07:40 PM
I would still switch him and Naismith, let Ritchie drop a bit deeper.

Maloney on for Forrest. McArthur for Darren Fletcher and up the tempo


Now there's a plan

Treadstone
08-10-2015, 07:40 PM
Neil McCann is painful on the telly.

bingo70
08-10-2015, 07:41 PM
Spot on from the TV guys... look at Brown..

They're also spot on cos it's bloody good play from lewandowski.

Easy to slate defenders but the boy hasn't scored that many goals by coincidence!

Ronniekirk
08-10-2015, 07:41 PM
Never doubted we would equalise .Now we need to build on this into second half and win the game and look to Germany to rake care of Ireland .
Performance unimportant This one is all about the result . But agree we have got out of jail .
willie Miller raging with defensive display

lucky
08-10-2015, 07:46 PM
Cracking goal but God we are poor but we are still in there. Need the Germans to score too

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 07:46 PM
Really could not bear for this Airdrie/Wimbledon esque Martin O'Neill Ireland side to finish ahead of us. At least earlier in the campaign we were playing some proper passing football...

The_Exile
08-10-2015, 07:51 PM
Get Brown tae ****, no way is he anywhere near the level of talent of McArthur, he looks a shadow of the player he was a few years ago. Team selection is baffling and we've basically robbed Poland with that goal. In saying that, we're still in this and need to come out with intensity from the whistle. I'd get Griffiths on. Come on!!!!

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:51 PM
Let off there

Lago
08-10-2015, 07:51 PM
N. Ireland 2 nil up and looking good for qualification.

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 07:54 PM
N. Ireland 2 nil up and looking good for qualification.

Great job by Michael O'Neil

I wonder if he would've taken the job ahead of butcher.

lucky
08-10-2015, 07:55 PM
Good game now. Scotland need to make it a battle

hiberactive
08-10-2015, 07:55 PM
It's the defenders I'm worried about,3 very poor players in Martin,Hanley and Hutton.

Peevemor
08-10-2015, 07:58 PM
Great job by Michael O'Neil

I wonder if he would've taken the job ahead of butcher.

IIRC he made it clear he wasn't interested.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 07:58 PM
Obligatory yellow card for Brown

Green forever
08-10-2015, 07:58 PM
Neil McCann is painful on the telly.
Davie Provan is even worse to listen to...

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Surely time for a sub

Diclonius
08-10-2015, 08:02 PM
This isn't even funny any more.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 08:02 PM
Time to make a change, gotta go for the win here.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
great player Fletcher!! :greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
2-1 Scotland, Steven Fletcher.

Great decision by Strachan to start him! :greengrin

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
Yressssssss never doubted it!!!

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
Fletcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Diclonius
08-10-2015, 08:03 PM
Nm now it is funny.

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 08:04 PM
Should have played Griffiths!!!

lucky
08-10-2015, 08:04 PM
Screamer lol the dream lives on

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 08:04 PM
Delighted for Fletch!

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:04 PM
right get brown off for mcaurthur. maloney on for forrest

J-C
08-10-2015, 08:04 PM
Cracking goal by Fletch, well done to Ritchie too, good goal.

Greenblood70
08-10-2015, 08:05 PM
Really classy finish by Fletcher - 2 fantastic goals by Scotland.

Jim44
08-10-2015, 08:05 PM
Get your track suit back on Sparky.

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 08:08 PM
Should have been 3 c'mon Scotland

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 08:08 PM
25 minutes...

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 08:08 PM
Sitter from Fletcher

Treadstone
08-10-2015, 08:08 PM
What's gonna do us ?

Polish equaliser or Irish winner ?

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:09 PM
so stupid again from hutton

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 08:09 PM
Stamp from hutton could have been red

Jim44
08-10-2015, 08:09 PM
Good to see a bit of classy football from Scott Brown there for a change.

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 08:09 PM
Sitter from Fletcher

A header from 12 yards is not a sitter.

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
c'mon Scotland--lets make this comfortable

Jim44
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
Hutton could be our Achilles heel.

Ronniekirk
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
Delighted for Fletch!

Class always shows through when it's needed most

Off the bar
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
Maloney for Naismith

Onceinawhile
08-10-2015, 08:10 PM
Maloney for naismith

J-C
08-10-2015, 08:11 PM
Naismith wins a lot of headers for a guy his size, his timing in the jump is impressive.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 08:12 PM
Maloney has been tremendous this campaign - one more moment of magic please

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:12 PM
had a quick look at the germany game... they are playing like a training game. Cant see them pushing for the win.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 08:12 PM
Always said Fletcher should start....

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:13 PM
Rebus on...this could be murder.

HibbyKeith
08-10-2015, 08:13 PM
Dedication from the Scotland fan with the broken fingers clapping the substitution lol. Keith Wright standing beside him too.

68:20mins for those with rewind.

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 08:15 PM
Dedication from the Scotland fan with the broken fingers clapping the substitution lol. Keith Wright standing beside him too.

68:20mins for those with rewind.

Haha, good spot.

Scorrie
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
Goal for Ireland v Germany

GlesgaeHibby
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
Ireland score. Need to hang on in here.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
Ireland in front against Germany!

You couldn't make it up. :rolleyes:

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
as i said Germany aren't bothering tonight. 1-0 IRE.

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
ROI Score *&^%&%$^%!!!!

Alex Trager
08-10-2015, 08:18 PM
****

Diclonius
08-10-2015, 08:19 PM
If results stay the same we need Ireland to win on Sunday.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:19 PM
Germans losing in the dublin friendly

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 08:21 PM
as i said Germany aren't bothering tonight. 1-0 IRE.

Seen bits of it too, they haven't got out of 2nd gear. Spewing.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:22 PM
If results stay the same we need Ireland to win on Sunday.

Yep, if Poland get anything it puts us out regardless of what we do against Gibraltar.

I personally don't see Ireland beating Poland when Poland know that if they lose they'll almost certainly be out so I would say we're out as things stand.

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:24 PM
Get forrest off...he's broken. cmon strachan!

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 08:24 PM
Still a few twists and turns to go yet

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:24 PM
i ******* hate always having tae rely on other teams to help us

SJNB Hibby
08-10-2015, 08:24 PM
Yep, if Poland get anything it puts us out regardless of what we do against Gibraltar.

I personally don't see Ireland beating Poland when Poland know that if they lose they'll almost certainly be out so I would say we're out as things stand.

Wouldn't go that far---Ireland need a point to avoid the play-offs, so a win isn't out of the question, but a German equaliser would be much appreciated nevertheless

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:25 PM
Muller misses a sitter for Germany.

DH1875
08-10-2015, 08:25 PM
Yep, if Poland get anything it puts us out regardless of what we do against Gibraltar.

I personally don't see Ireland beating Poland when Poland know that if they lose they'll almost certainly be out so I would say we're out as things stand.

If Ireland beat Poland do they not automatically qualify? They'd be as well going for it as they'd still be guaranteed 3rd place.

Diclonius
08-10-2015, 08:25 PM
All comes down to that ****ing game against Georgia. Literally the only blip in the entire campaign.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:26 PM
strachan finally realises forrest is still on the park

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:29 PM
Wouldn't go that far---Ireland need a point to avoid the play-offs, so a win isn't out of the question, but a German equaliser would be much appreciated nevertheless

A point for Ireland isn't enough though, they have to win. I just can't see Poland losing at home when they know that they're pretty much guaranteed to go out, considering that we're playing Gibraltar. A win for Poland also guarantees them automatic qualification.


If Ireland beat Poland do they not automatically qualify? They'd be as well going for it as they'd still be guaranteed 3rd place.

Yeah they do but Poland have more to lose on Sunday. See above, if they lose they'll probably be out.

I cannot see any way that Poland will fail to get at least a point at home on Sunday.

Jim44
08-10-2015, 08:29 PM
i ******* hate always having tae rely on other teams to help us

That kind of implies that it's other teams' fault if we don't do the business, when it's really our own fault for not getting results in games where we should have.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:30 PM
always a ******* eejit

EH6 Hibby
08-10-2015, 08:33 PM
Even if Ireland do beat Poland, our goal difference is about 15 less than Polands so they'd go through surely?

leither17
08-10-2015, 08:34 PM
Even if Ireland do beat Poland, our goal difference is about 15 less than Polands so they'd go through surely?

Sure it goes to head to head results

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:34 PM
Even if Ireland do beat Poland, our goal difference is about 15 less than Polands so they'd go through surely?

It goes to head to head first.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:34 PM
that's a great result for norn oirland as well

Brightside
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
what a joke

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
2-2, last second of the match.

Scotland out.

Hibrandenburg
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
Ans we're out.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
well deserved goal for poland....now that's what happens when yi try tae defend all the time ....p@sh tactics from us

DH1875
08-10-2015, 08:36 PM
All over :fuming::furious::brickwall:brickwall

Jim44
08-10-2015, 08:37 PM
Goodnight Vienna

J-C
08-10-2015, 08:37 PM
It had to happen, work hard, then a kick in the teeth. :confused:

Scorrie
08-10-2015, 08:37 PM
that's a great result for norn oirland as well

Really chuffed for Michael O Neill one of my favorite Hibs players and a top bloke. A few SPL players in the Norn Iron team as well...

Lago
08-10-2015, 08:38 PM
Ans we're out.
Same old same old.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:38 PM
I'm afraid if you can't beat a team ranked about 140 in the world (or wherever Georgia are actually ranked) then you don't deserve to qualify for a major tournament.

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 08:38 PM
Only home nation that won't be there. Brilliant.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 08:39 PM
Over the piece we got exactly what we deserved from this campaign.

When it really mattered we managed to take 2 points from a possible 12. You don't deserve to qualify with a record like that.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:40 PM
Only home nation that won't be there. Brilliant.

:agree: Great eh!?

You have to laugh really, or else you would just cry.

ArmadaleHibs
08-10-2015, 08:40 PM
The Scotland we all know and love. Every time I watch Scotland I always seem to be saying "NEARLY".

Bit like Hibs lol

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 08:40 PM
Next years finals are going to be a sore watch. England, N.Ireland, RoI and Gareth Bale all going. Terrible that we can't even make third place.

Scorrie
08-10-2015, 08:40 PM
I'm afraid if you can't beat a team ranked about 140 in the world (or wherever Georgia are actually ranked) then you don't deserve to qualify for a major tournament.

Yep. That's the brutal truth of it. Northern Ireland have players from Ross County and Accies playing for them and they have qualified. Well done them but a right sickener for us

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:41 PM
Ireland 1-0 Germany

Scotland's elimination confirmed.

Diclonius
08-10-2015, 08:42 PM
Aw hard luck Scotland, always next year eh, at least aw the boys worked really hard and we aw hud a great time.

Nah, **** off. Glad this is over for a while so I don't have this ****ty sideshow interrupting my team's season.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:42 PM
and well done the republic of oirland

MJN1875
08-10-2015, 08:42 PM
The Scotland we all know and love. Every time I watch Scotland I always seem to be saying "NEARLY".

Bit like Hibs lol

Supporting Scotland and hibs is brutal!

One day things will change.......

Onion
08-10-2015, 08:42 PM
I'm afraid if you can't beat a team ranked about 140 in the world (or wherever Georgia are actually ranked) then you don't deserve to qualify for a major tournament.

:agree: We lost France in Georgia. Tonight was typical Scotland, scoring 2 fantastic goals against a really good Poland, then Ireland (who are bang average) pull off the result of their lives. The last second equaliser was the cherry on top. Overall, another horrible campaign for Scotland. It's not the despair that kills you.

J-C
08-10-2015, 08:42 PM
So what bullcrap with WGS come out with after this latest debacle, who's to blame now ?? All talk about new regime, new players, attitude etc and same ****, sounds all too familiar for us Hibees.

SkintHibby
08-10-2015, 08:43 PM
Scotland joke football nation. Not even big enough baws to go independent. Scotland the Brave??? No wonder the English laugh at us.

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 08:43 PM
Over the piece we got exactly what we deserved from this campaign.

When it really mattered we managed to take 2 points from a possible 12. You don't deserve to qualify with a record like that.

Yep 3 wins from 9 games isn't going to see you qualify.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 08:43 PM
Ireland 1-0 Germany

Scotland's elimination confirmed.

My sister is currently in the Algarve pre the Gibraltar match at the weekend. That's going to be a bit of a damp squib now. At least we should win that one I suppose.

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 08:44 PM
So who takes the can for this? The ROI are a very very average team, not qualified yet, but well ahead of us on points?
Anyone think WGS will call it a day?
I'd keep him on, if it was up to me, but think Gordon may say ta ta

HibbiesandtheBaddies
08-10-2015, 08:44 PM
Lets start a petition to stop Crocker commentating on Scotland games.

We all know the 'Hard luck Scotland' stories because we live it.

Sylar
08-10-2015, 08:44 PM
Great performance against a very good team - tonight wasn't to blame, nor was failure to beat Germany - it was THAT match in Georgia.

Useless German ****s incidentally and it wouldn't have mattered in the end - we'd have been relying on Ireland beating the Poles in Warsaw, which won't happen.

ABE and now ABG.

cabbageandribs1875
08-10-2015, 08:45 PM
anyone else remember the heady days of scottish football when qualifying for major tournaments were the norm ? now a ******* backwater footballing nation...well done the SFA/GFA

lucky
08-10-2015, 08:45 PM
:agree: We lost France in Georgia. Tonight was typical Scotland, scoring 2 fantastic goals against a really good Poland, then Ireland (who are bang average) pull off the result of their lives. The last second equaliser was the cherry on top. Overall, another horrible campaign for Scotland. It's not the despair that kills you.

I wish Scotland were as average as Ireland team that drew in Germany and beat them at home. After 10 games we are the 4th best team in the group. Just not good enough

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 08:46 PM
Next years finals are going to be a sore watch. England, N.Ireland, RoI and Gareth Bale all going. Terrible that we can't even make third place.

ROI won't be there. Only consolation is hat we've made their result pretty meaningless

B.H.F.C
08-10-2015, 08:46 PM
So who takes the can for this? The ROI are a very very average team, not qualified yet, but well ahead of us on points?
Anyone think WGS will call it a day?
I'd keep him on, if it was up to me, but think Gordon may say ta ta

I could be wrong but I'm sure I read somewhere that he actually has a very similar record to Levein.

We were in a brilliant position at the half way point in the group.

Tyler Durden
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Lets start a petition to stop Crocker commentating on Scotland games.

We all know the 'Hard luck Scotland' stories because we live it.

Yeah he couldn't help himsel with the "They're not going to score here are they????"

Onion
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
Next years finals are going to be a sore watch. England, N.Ireland, RoI and Gareth Bale all going. Terrible that we can't even make third place.

Going to be some really poor nations at the Finals, just rubbing salt in the wounds. This group was never going to be easy, but to remain unbeaten against the two teams above us and still go out is hard to take. Something in the Scottish psyche, me thinks.

Sir David Gray
08-10-2015, 08:47 PM
My sister is currently in the Algarve pre the Gibraltar match at the weekend. That's going to be a bit of a damp squib now. At least we should win that one I suppose.

I'm flying out to Cyprus on Sunday for a week and I had everything planned to find a wee pub somewhere close to the hotel on Sunday night and have a couple of drinks whilst watching Scotland win to get into the playoffs!

Don't think I'll bother now!

With the football that is, I'm still going to Cyprus! :greengrin

J-C
08-10-2015, 08:48 PM
ROI won't be there. Only consolation is hat we've made their result pretty meaningless


They're in the play offs at least, which gives them a chance.

Alfred E Newman
08-10-2015, 08:48 PM
Won 3 lost 3 drawn 3. You are never going to qualify for anything with stats like that.

Pretty Boy
08-10-2015, 08:48 PM
What's Fergie up to?

Did he not say recently he didn't really want to retire? A wee part time number for the next 4 years might suit him.

Never going to happen of course but he wouldn't be afraid to make changes and ship out players he felt were past making a meaningful contribution.

stoneyburn hibs
08-10-2015, 08:50 PM
I'm flying out to Cyprus on Sunday for a week and I had everything planned to find a wee pub somewhere close to the hotel on Sunday night and have a couple of drinks whilst watching Scotland win to get into the playoffs!

Don't think I'll bother now!

With the football that is, I'm still going to Cyprus! :greengrin

Better make sure it's only two pints Trig, your getting breath tested on entry apparently lol.

bingo70
08-10-2015, 08:50 PM
1 bad result in the group but difficult to legislate for Ireland taking 4 points off Germany.

Hope strachan stays on, we're a team with lots of ***** players of course there'll be the odd bad performance, at least with strachan there's been some good ones too.

We'd have to go foreign fir our next manager if strachan was to leave and not sure anybody else could get more out of that squad.

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 08:50 PM
What's Fergie up to?

Did he not say recently he didn't really want to retire? A wee part time number for the next 4 years might suit him.

Never going to happen of course but he wouldn't be afraid to make changes and ship out players he felt were past making a meaningful contribution.

Other than Fergie, can't think of another candidate, and he's hardly a candidate, don't think Cathy would allow him

SteveHFC
08-10-2015, 08:50 PM
Every ****ing time

**** off Scotland

HibbiesandtheBaddies
08-10-2015, 08:51 PM
And Tanner can GTF anaw.

bingo70
08-10-2015, 08:52 PM
Other than Fergie, can't think of another candidate, and he's hardly a candidate, don't think Cathy would allow him

Moyes getting sacked soon in Spain?

Zazu62
08-10-2015, 08:52 PM
And Tanner can GTF anaw.

He's an erse

Onion
08-10-2015, 08:52 PM
I wish Scotland were as average as Ireland team that drew in Germany and beat them at home. After 10 games we are the 4th best team in the group. Just not good enough

If Germany had needed a win tonight, the result would have been very different. History proves that. Irish are bang average, Scotland are worse than that.

Matty_Jack04
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
So who takes the can for this? The ROI are a very very average team, not qualified yet, but well ahead of us on points?
Anyone think WGS will call it a day?
I'd keep him on, if it was up to me, but think Gordon may say ta ta

There has to be some sort of campaign for change within the sfa we're still in the dark ages in footballing terms and it's them and the cronies at the spfl keeping us there, greedy chairmen and guys in suits at Hampden can't be allowed to continue the game here needs a overhaul and we need people who can make proper decisions

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 08:53 PM
Moyes getting sacked soon in Spain?

He certainly doesn't need the money!
We were sitting good in this section pre the Georgia game. 1 point out of 9 has killed us

greenpaper55
08-10-2015, 08:54 PM
At least we won't see Salmond waving his saltire in France !.

Alex Trager
08-10-2015, 08:55 PM
New manager maybe?

To come up short again is no good.

Better football is all well and fine but results matter

NORTHERNHIBBY
08-10-2015, 08:56 PM
The Georgia game is where we lost our way and momentum.

Billy Whizz
08-10-2015, 08:56 PM
At least we won't see Salmond waving his saltire in France !.

What a stupid stupid post