Man beheaded in France

[Stranraer]

According to updates on Sky News a man has been arrested after a man has been beheaded and several injured in an attack in southern France.

[Aldo]

According to updates on Sky News a man has been arrested after a man has been beheaded and several injured in an attack in southern France.

That along with the attacks at 2 hotels in Sousse, Tunisia (killing 27 so far) and a suicide bombing in Kuwait! (Killing 10)

Early indications are that there are a number of residents from the UK amongst them!

[johnbc70]

A girl at my work was at the Hotel in Tunisa where the attack took place only 4 weeks ago.

I would never dream of going on holiday to anywhere in North Africa and cannot understand why people still book up for Tunisa or Egypt etc. Not worth the risk.

[frazeHFC]

One of my pals (big Hibee) is in a hotel just a minute or two away. He was chilling by the pool and heard all the gunshots and ran inside the hotel where armed guards were positioned to protect those inside.

Reception lady in my office has family there too just now.

They are understandably terrified, shocking stuff!

[lord bunberry]

A girl at my work was at the Hotel in Tunisa where the attack took place only 4 weeks ago.

I would never dream of going on holiday to anywhere in North Africa and cannot understand why people still book up for Tunisa or Egypt etc. Not worth the risk.

I wouldn't fancy it either, I've never been there, but I can't see what difference there would be to a hotel complex in Spain or Greece.

[GlesgaeHibby]

Got friends staying nearby, they're safe thank goodness. Hotel is like fort knox with armed guards everywhere apparently.

[johnbc70]

I wouldn't fancy it either, I've never been there, but I can't see what difference there would be to a hotel complex in Spain or Greece.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/tunisia/11206522/How-Tunisia-became-a-breeding-ground-for-jihadists.html

Maybe that will change your mind - not worth the risk.

[stoneyburn hibs]

My mother, step-dad and step-brother are just a couple of miles away from the incident, managed to make contact as I was unsure of where exactly they are staying.
Complete lockdown for them in the hotel.

I did question it when my mother initially booked as they were told it's not advisable to stray outside of the complex grounds.
A prison camp that sells alcohol is not really appealing for your annual holiday.

[overdrive]

A girl at work got a phone call from her friend who was distraught as the friend's parents were in one of the hotels under attack. Think they had locked themselves in their room. We all thought it was a sick joke at first because this was a few minutes before the press started reported on it.

[lord bunberry]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/tunisia/11206522/How-Tunisia-became-a-breeding-ground-for-jihadists.html

Maybe that will change your mind - not worth the risk.

I stopped reading that half way through as I've heard and read it all before. I go out of my way not to criticise other people's beliefs, but when I see mass slaughter in the name of religion I dispaair. There is no God and people who believe in one are deluded. I'm struggling right now to articulate what I'm feeling, but it's at direct conflict with what I believe in and what I don't want to criticise.

[frazeHFC]

An English teenager survived in Tunisia but witnessed his parents are grandmother murdered. Just horrific. :bitchy:

[Sir David Gray]

I wouldn't fancy it either, I've never been there, but I can't see what difference there would be to a hotel complex in Spain or Greece.

Seriously?

You don't see the difference between a country like Greece or Spain, which are both relatively peaceful nations, and Tunisia or Egypt, who have both experienced terrorist related activity in recent years and who also have a sizeable Islamist presence?

I can't believe you really believe that.

Of course terrorism can happen anywhere but I wouldn't think about it if I was on holiday in Spain or Greece but it would certainly always be at the back of my mind if I was in the likes of Tunisia, Egypt or Turkey.

I wouldn't go to any of these countries if you paid me and I can't understand why any Westerner would want to go either, especially when there's so many options in southern Europe which are all considerably safer, with just as nice a climate.

[Pete]

It's important not to let the nutters win though. Think of all the poor Tunisians who will now be plunged into misery because of the inevitable huge drop in tourism due to the recent atrocities. Mind you they probably don't give a toss as most of them are the wrong type of Muslim.

These people enslave, rape and slaighter people who aren't mentioned favourably in their little book and they have the nerve to call the "west" evil? The world truly has gone mad and I don't know what armed forces are for if it isn't to rid humanity of such despicable people.

Time for boots on the ground and a zero tolerance for these rogue nutters and sympathisers. How much worse can it get?

[Sylar]

Seriously?

You don't see the difference between a country like Greece or Spain, which are both relatively peaceful nations, and Tunisia or Egypt, who have both experienced terrorist related activity in recent years and who also have a sizeable Islamist presence?

I can't believe you really believe that.

Of course terrorism can happen anywhere but I wouldn't think about it if I was on holiday in Spain or Greece but it would certainly always be at the back of my mind if I was in the likes of Tunisia, Egypt or Turkey.

I wouldn't go to any of these countries if you paid me and I can't understand why any Westerner would want to go either, especially when there's so many options in southern Europe which are all considerably safer, with just as nice a climate.

I think all he meant was that if you go to countries that aren't in places that are 'terror-risk', you're going to find hotel complexes that are confined. You go to places in the Caribbean and you're advised to stay in your hotel complex owing to the high rates of poverty, pick-pockets etc so to that end, I fully understand what he's saying.

Having said that, like you, my inclination to visit many of these countries in North Africa has diminished as a result of the political situation. I would love to see many of the great Arabic cities and historical cities of northern Africa from a cultural point of view but I would certainly have safety concerns.

BBC and Tunisian PM saying this morning that 'most' of the dead are British, not just the 5 that was being reported earlier. Hope the spree of attacks doesn't affect people getting out and about today with the Pride event going on in London and Armed Forces Day taking place across the UK (including the massive event I'm off to in Guildford) and I suspect security across the UK will be on heightened alert now.

[Sylar]

It's important not to let the nutters win though. Think of all the poor Tunisians who will now be plunged into misery because of the inevitable huge drop in tourism due to the recent atrocities. Mind you they probably don't give a toss as most of them are the wrong type of Muslim.

These people enslave, rape and slaighter people who aren't mentioned favourably in their little book and they have the nerve to call the "west" evil? The world truly has gone mad and I don't know what armed forces are for if it isn't to rid humanity of such despicable people.

Time for boots on the ground and a zero tolerance for these rogue nutters and sympathisers. How much worse can it get?

I read this a lot when we see these types of attacks but what ground and who's boots?

This threat is global and sending our boys off to deserts unknown isn't going to solve the problem.

[Beefster]

Time for boots on the ground and a zero tolerance for these rogue nutters and sympathisers. How much worse can it get?

If there's a way to inflame the situation and massively increase the number of young Muslims turning to jihad, that's it.

[liamh2202]

Its a hard one to deal with.. Boots on the ground is hard as we don't know who the enemy is ,,

[Pretty Boy]

Seriously?

You don't see the difference between a country like Greece or Spain, which are both relatively peaceful nations, and Tunisia or Egypt, who have both experienced terrorist related activity in recent years and who also have a sizeable Islamist presence?

I can't believe you really believe that.

Of course terrorism can happen anywhere but I wouldn't think about it if I was on holiday in Spain or Greece but it would certainly always be at the back of my mind if I was in the likes of Tunisia, Egypt or Turkey.

I wouldn't go to any of these countries if you paid me and I can't understand why any Westerner would want to go either, especially when there's so many options in southern Europe which are all considerably safer, with just as nice a climate.

I've just booked up for Turkey again and can't wait. Including Istanbul this time which has long been something I want to do. Brilliant country, lovely people and relatively safe. Backed up by the 2.5M Brits who visit every year with little or no issues. Stay away from the border with Syria, as most tourists do, and you're unlikely to encounter rampaging Jihadis.

Sadly the likes of Egypt and now Tunisia will become no go areas which is sad as huge numbers of people rely on the tourist industry, the groups involved probably see the poverty their actions will cause as the best breeding grounds for recruits though.

Incidentally having travelled in Turkey, Morrocco, Lebanon and Bosnia the only holiday interrupted by terrorism was in Spain in 2009 when ETA bombed Palma and Palma Nova a few hours before we were due to fly home. 6 bombs in total and 2 deaths. There's risk everywhere.

[DH1875]

We went to Tunisia a few years back and stayed not to far away from where this attack took place. Our hotel had security all over the place, even on the beach and I kinda thought that all the hotels were like that. Strange thing also was that you were adviced not to leave the complex but yet the hotel offered all sorts of day trip s out. We went to Sousse, and Monastair on day trips and also went on an overnight camping trip into the sahara. Never had any problems and the sahara trip was amazing.
Also really fancied going to Egypt for a while now but with all the stuff going on in the world we've continued to put it off. Can't see us ever making the trip which is a real shame.

[Lucius Apuleius]

I stopped reading that half way through as I've heard and read it all before. I go out of my way not to criticise other people's beliefs, but when I see mass slaughter in the name of religion I dispaair. There is no God and people who believe in one are deluded. I'm struggling right now to articulate what I'm feeling, but it's at direct conflict with what I believe in and what I don't want to criticise.

Count me amongst the deluded then. This atrocity has eff all to do with religion. Pure and simple terrorism. They may hide under the mantle of Islam but you don't need me to tell you that Islam is as much a peaceful religion as Christianity is. There are idiots out there who could radicalised anything. Why are they attacking Shias if it is in the name is Islam? Pretty sure that is pretty haram according the Koran.

[Onceinawhile]

Its a hard one to deal with.. Boots on the ground is hard as we don't know who the enemy is ,,

We do, to an extent, it's the militants we helped train and finance in Syria.

[lord bunberry]

Seriously?

You don't see the difference between a country like Greece or Spain, which are both relatively peaceful nations, and Tunisia or Egypt, who have both experienced terrorist related activity in recent years and who also have a sizeable Islamist presence?

I can't believe you really believe that.

Of course terrorism can happen anywhere but I wouldn't think about it if I was on holiday in Spain or Greece but it would certainly always be at the back of my mind if I was in the likes of Tunisia, Egypt or Turkey.

I wouldn't go to any of these countries if you paid me and I can't understand why any Westerner would want to go either, especially when there's so many options in southern Europe which are all considerably safer, with just as nice a climate.

You have completely missed the point I was making. A large hotel on the beach in Tunisia is going to be very similar to a large hotel on the beach in Spain. If it isn't safe to leave your hotel then why would you choose to go there?

[Allant1981]

I stopped reading that half way through as I've heard and read it all before. I go out of my way not to criticise other people's beliefs, but when I see mass slaughter in the name of religion I dispaair. There is no God and people who believe in one are deluded. I'm struggling right now to articulate what I'm feeling, but it's at direct conflict with what I believe in and what I don't want to criticise.

So millions/billions of people are deluded because they believe in a god? Bit harsh. I dont believe in a god but wouldnt say people who do are wrong, these incidents IMOhave nothing to do with religion

[sleeping giant]

I stopped reading that half way through as I've heard and read it all before. I go out of my way not to criticise other people's beliefs, but when I see mass slaughter in the name of religion I dispaair. There is no God and people who believe in one are deluded. I'm struggling right now to articulate what I'm feeling, but it's at direct conflict with what I believe in and what I don't want to criticise.

People are deluded because they don't follow the same beliefs as you ?
Seriously ?

Deary deary me

[HappyHanlon]

My mother, step-dad and step-brother are just a couple of miles away from the incident, managed to make contact as I was unsure of where exactly they are staying.
Complete lockdown for them in the hotel.

I did question it when my mother initially booked as they were told it's not advisable to stray outside of the complex grounds.
A prison camp that sells alcohol is not really appealing for your annual holiday.

You get that in a lot of places.

I went to Bulgaria the other year and was told by our hotel rep that leaving the Sunny Beach vacinity was a bad idea due to the pickpockets and hostile natives that are quite resentful.

[lord bunberry]

People are deluded because they don't follow the same beliefs as you ?
Seriously ?

Deary deary me

My post was badly worded and ill thought out, partly due to the fact that I'd had a fair amount to drink. I don't believe in God and I don't believe the same thing as Christians or Muslims believe in. Deluded is to strong a term, but it stands to reason that if I don't believe in the same thing as someone else then I believe that they're wrong.

[stoneyburn hibs]

My post was badly worded and ill thought out, partly due to the fact that I'd had a fair amount to drink. I don't believe in God and I don't believe the same thing as Christians or Muslims believe in. Deluded is to strong a term, but it stands to reason that if I don't believe in the same thing as someone else then I believe that they're wrong.

😎 Thought as much, ease up on the Lanzerote wine.

[lord bunberry]

 Thought as much, ease up on the Lanzerote wine.
I can't help myself :greengrin

[Just Alf]

Re the Tunisa thing... A work colleague has spent over 6 hours on the phone to Thomas Cook (I think) trying to get her holiday destination changed.... After being emailed and told to contact them urgently to rearrange as her flight out at the start of the week was cancelled.... In amongst all the discussion they tried to charge her extra for late changes. Nightmare.

[Stranraer]

When I first posted this on Friday morning I had no idea of the terrible bloodshed that was to come. My thoughts go out to all the victim's families of those murdered in Tunisia.

[Moulin Yarns]

When I first posted this on Friday morning I had no idea of the terrible bloodshed that was to come. My thoughts go out to all the victim's families of those murdered in Tunisia.


I hadn't realised until this morning that the couple from Bankfoot in Perthshire are the parents of someone that works in the same building as me and we often chatted on the bus home. That is when it hits home, when you know someone directly affected by the tragedy.

[Sir David Gray]

Sorry, just getting into this thread again as I was on holiday when I made my last post.


I've just booked up for Turkey again and can't wait. Including Istanbul this time which has long been something I want to do. Brilliant country, lovely people and relatively safe. Backed up by the 2.5M Brits who visit every year with little or no issues. Stay away from the border with Syria, as most tourists do, and you're unlikely to encounter rampaging Jihadis.

Sadly the likes of Egypt and now Tunisia will become no go areas which is sad as huge numbers of people rely on the tourist industry, the groups involved probably see the poverty their actions will cause as the best breeding grounds for recruits though.

Incidentally having travelled in Turkey, Morrocco, Lebanon and Bosnia the only holiday interrupted by terrorism was in Spain in 2009 when ETA bombed Palma and Palma Nova a few hours before we were due to fly home. 6 bombs in total and 2 deaths. There's risk everywhere.

I hope you have a good time and, more importantly, a safe time. I know several people who go to Turkey and have been several times so it must have good points.

It's personally not for me though. Islamic State is literally present just a few miles from the Turkey-Syria border, who's to say that this couldn't spill over at any time onto the Turkish side of the border and change everything in the country?

I know that terrorism can happen anywhere and nowhere is completely safe but I would certainly feel safer going to Spain on my holidays than I would if I was going to any of the countries mentioned in my original post.


You have completely missed the point I was making. A large hotel on the beach in Tunisia is going to be very similar to a large hotel on the beach in Spain. If it isn't safe to leave your hotel then why would you choose to go there?

Maybe we're talking at cross purposes here. I wouldn't consider it to be completely safe to leave my hotel in Tunisia but I would feel pretty safe to leave my hotel in Spain.

If I'm still missing the point then I apologise!

[DH1875]

See that the governnent think another attack is highly likely and that tourists are no longer safe. Tour operators are sending jets over to bring back all the holiday makers there and all expats are being urged to leave the country.

[speedy_gonzales]

See that the governnent think another attack is highly likely and that tourists are no longer safe. Tour operators are sending jets over to bring back all the holiday makers there and all expats are being urged to leave the country.
I'm watching the 6'o'clock news and woe betide any officials that get in the way of a Brit and their holiday!
I'm pretty sure most would agree that the foreign office are doing the right thing in extracting the British from the resorts with the fear of another attack potentially around the corner.
Whilst I sympathise with those that have worked hard and perhaps looked forward to their holidays, in the whole scheme of things I'd rather be at Porty and a little bit disappointed as opposed to being in Tunisia and a whole lot dead!
I hope the Tunisian tourist industry will recover from this,,,

[Sir David Gray]

I'm watching the 6'o'clock news and woe betide any officials that get in the way of a Brit and their holiday!
I'm pretty sure most would agree that the foreign office are doing the right thing in extracting the British from the resorts with the fear of another attack potentially around the corner.
Whilst I sympathise with those that have worked hard and perhaps looked forward to their holidays, in the whole scheme of things I'd rather be at Porty and a little bit disappointed as opposed to being in Tunisia and a whole lot dead!
I hope the Tunisian tourist industry will recover from this,,,

Yup i saw the news last night and watched the interviews with the British tourists who were complaining about being sent home.

Sometimes there's just things which are more important than a holiday. The Foreign Office have decided that the threat of another terrorist attack in Tunisia is highly likely, two weeks after the deadliest attack on British people since 7/7. I think people need to understand that when they're complaining about having their holiday cut short.