Hibs transfer thread (Last Day Update - Anier / Feruz (both loan) in, None out)

[Waxy]

Rangers would have to offer us a crazy amount of money for us to sell SA to them just as we're going into what seems a head to head season long battle against them.Doubt they have the money.

[IanM]

HSL just thanked folk for signing up

@hfcsupporters: #Hibs fans making a difference @MartinBoyle9 signs a 2 year deal @HibsOfficial - http://t.co/eKbweh2EPS - #GGTTH http://t.co/57bUXZAv9g

[MoscowHibs]

Excellent news keeping Boyle!

I agree, I think he will become an overall better player working with AS.

[madhatter]

I think we still need some strengthening even with those rumoured to be staying and those to be leaving - we are lightweight in midfield (I'd like to see us beef up our reserves with talented youth - I'd prefer a young player with talent filling in for Fyvie etc. if they have injuries or suspensions). We're getting to the point where we have good players to learn from but have very few young players on the books old enough to train/play alongside.

1 injury and we have very few options. I'm thinking that Boyle and Carmichael will be our wingers (option of this now) but 2 injuries in either defence or midfield and we are up a rather smelly creek without a paddle.

I'm hoping the next couple of weeks will be busy on the signing front as we need: 2 goalies, 2 defenders, 1 holding midfielder (sounds as if Robertson is possibly gone but even if not, he would need competition), 1 more midfielder for further up the park, plus 1 more to play either wing with pace (Harris might get his shot).

Recent contract extensions are certainly good news but I can't help but think we are all perhaps getting too excited, if we keep what we had last season they would have to likely up their game massively as Rangers will surely not be as shambolic and we didn't beat them this year (in the playoffs) when they were a disaster.

Strengthening must occur if we can finance it. Any fans who can should try to contribute (things are looking up but momentum must be maintained and furthered!) - new home strip looks class and the rumoured away strip looks good too so I'll be contributing a little more this year shortly!

[jacomo]

If Allan makes noises about wanting to join them and they offer a decent amount of money I think we all know how it'll pan out.

I'm not sure why he would make those 'noises' this summer. As things stand, he'll have more options and more lucrative offers in 12 months time.

[jacomo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33128308?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Nice one Martin Boyle!

[bingo70]

I'm not sure why he would make those 'noises' this summer. As things stand, he'll have more options and more lucrative offers in 12 months time.

An extra £10k per week is probably a realistic amount they could offer him, that's not to be sniffed at.

[silverhibee]

An extra £10k per week is probably a realistic amount they could offer him, that's not to be sniffed at.

Doubt that to be honest.

[brog]

An extra £10k per week is probably a realistic amount they could offer him, that's not to be sniffed at.

Aye right. Newco need virtually a whole team, they'll have to sign at least 8. If they pay all their new signings £12k a week as you're suggesting that's £5m right there & that's before signing on & transfer fees. FWIW I think we may lose SA but I would be extremely surprised if it was to Newco.

[bingo70]

Doubt that to be honest.

I'd imagine Allan will be on around a grand or two a week, rangers will comfortably be offering him around £10k per week based on who's just left them.

[BH Hibs]

They can offer him 100k a week but if we don't want to sell then that's that

[bingo70]

They can offer him 100k a week but if we don't want to sell then that's that

While that's obviously technically correct it's a bit simplistic. Very few managers in world football want to keep a player that actively wants out. It can impact on the dressing room and players with their minds elsewhere rarely perform to their best. If it's in January We could fob them off until the summer but imo If it's a good offer its more than likely he'll be away.

[Pray4Marc]

We are much more prepared than Sevco, most of our current squad have a season together. Sevco have a matter of weeks to assemble an overpaid starting eleven.

It is imperative that we start well, I want 6 -8 straight wins minimum. This will give us momentum and make a statement.

I feel we are missing another CB even if Fontaine signs and a holding midfielder.

[stubru59]

I'd imagine Allan will be on around a grand or two a week, rangers will comfortably be offering him around £10k per week based on who's just left them.


I very much doubt Rangers will be paying any player £10k a week in the upcoming season. As they've just found out, paying that kind of money doesn't guarantee promotion.

[3pm]

No chance at all.

You are kidding yourself on. I'd be disappointed based on what he said but let's not pretend there is 'no chance'.

[silverhibee]

I'd imagine Allan will be on around a grand or two a week, rangers will comfortably be offering him around £10k per week based on who's just left them.

Sorry Bingo, but if they do sign him he will be getting nowhere near £10k p/w, no matter who they have just released, maybe your getting your Championship Leagues mixed up. :greengrin

[HoboHarry]

I'd imagine Allan will be on around a grand or two a week, rangers will comfortably be offering him around £10k per week based on who's just left them.

Do you think there might be a wee chance that they let them go for that very reason?

[bingo70]

Sorry Bingo, but if they do sign him he will be getting nowhere near £10k p/w, no matter who they have just released, maybe your getting your Championship Leagues mixed up. :greengrin

I'm not going to pretend to know what salaries they'll be paying but I'd be surprised if they don't have one or two players close to that mark.

Obviously we'll never know but one thing I am pretty sure of is they'll be able to offer him significantly more, there's no question he'd be tempted.

[bingo70]

Do you think there might be a wee chance that they let them go for that very reason?

Yes, they were old, loads of them and they were at the end of their careers.

Rangers will be offering good wages to the right players, it'd be naive to think given the chance Scott Allan won't be one of them.

[Ozyhibby]

I honestly don't think new Rangers will be offering big money to anybody.
Right now, the cupboard is bare, they have no money.
They have no money from merchandising to come in, no money from shirt sponsorship, no money from stadium advertising. All that goes straight to Ashley. If they don't sell enough shirts, they may have to make a payment to Ashley.
Any TV money they get will be about the same as us.
Their big advantage over us is season ticket sales. IF they get the 45k mention by King then they have about £12 m to spend on players and running costs of the club for the season. If Ashley gets his £5m then that drops to £7m. With their overheads that would leave them with a smaller budget than us.

[bingo70]

I honestly don't think new Rangers will be offering big money to anybody.
Right now, the cupboard is bare, they have no money.
They have no money from merchandising to come in, no money from shirt sponsorship, no money from stadium advertising. All that goes straight to Ashley. If they don't sell enough shirts, they may have to make a payment to Ashley.
Any TV money they get will be about the same as us.
Their big advantage over us is season ticket sales. IF they get the 45k mention by King then they have about £12 m to spend on players and running costs of the club for the season. If Ashley gets his £5m then that drops to £7m. With their overheads that would leave them with a smaller budget than us.

I hope you're right but I'd be amazed if that's how it pans out.

Imo it's more likely they'll overspend and be in the financial **** again in 6 months.

[Ozyhibby]

I hope you're right but I'd be amazed if that's how it pans out.

Imo it's more likely they'll overspend and be in the financial **** again in 6 months.

They are in the **** right now. They were losing about £800k a month last season and they can't find that level of losses again next season. They need King to pony up big time and I don't think he's got it.

[Andy74]

You are kidding yourself on. I'd be disappointed based on what he said but let's not pretend there is 'no chance'.

Nothing to do with him or what he said. Hibs know fine well what selling to Rangers would mean at this stage and there is no chance at all that we would do that.

[Billychaotic182]

If we lose Stanton I can't help but feel we are really short in the midfield. With only really Allan and Fyvie as Roberstson is in limbo Craig is gone and Dylan is uncertain too. Rhys McCabe fits the bill with what he look for.

[Onceinawhile]

If we lose Stanton I can't help but feel we are really short in the midfield. With only really Allan and Fyvie as Roberstson is in limbo Craig is gone and Dylan is uncertain too. Rhys McCabe fits the bill with what he look for.

Carmichael as well. But agreed. Very light. Would be delighted if we could get Dylan + 1

[Billychaotic182]

Carmichael as well. But agreed. Very light. Would be delighted if we could get Dylan + 1

I was under the impression Carmichael was more of a winger. I still think there is a place for Scott Robertson and Stanton too. But as I said I'd love us to take a Pop at McCabe. He is another one of the same standard as Fyvie and Allan.

[jacomo]

I hope you're right but I'd be amazed if that's how it pans out.

Imo it's more likely they'll overspend and be in the financial **** again in 6 months.

Agreed. Scott Allan knows this and will have no part of it. He knows Stubbs is going to turn him into a proper player.

:greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

If we lose Stanton I can't help but feel we are really short in the midfield. With only really Allan and Fyvie as Roberstson is in limbo Craig is gone and Dylan is uncertain too. Rhys McCabe fits the bill with what he look for.

If Stanton leaves then he will be replaced by a player ready to play first team football for Hibs

[Hedlund12]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

[Waxy]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!Better than Maradona.

[hibee92]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

Yes

[Ronniekirk]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

No but he could have a hand in helping us get promoted which has to be our key objective again this season He is also a player that on form I would gladly pay to go and see He can exite and has skill and vision ,we don't often have players we can say that about .
Is the team too reliant on him and could we become a better all round team if we sold him and reinvested the money is a debate to be had ,but I think I would rather have him I our team than playing against us .
The question he has to answer is does he want to continue enjoying his football with us and be free to choose his next move himself ,when he will clearly go on to bigger and better things and be finacially rewarded or does he jump ship now depending on who bids for him ,and is that the best career move for him at this stage in his career . I am sure he would rather he wasn't still in the Championship and that ultimately may be a deciding factor if bids come in ,so on that basis I don't see him wanting to jump ship to Sevco just for a couple of grand a week more unless they start signing quality players immediately and he view Warburton as being the person that can develop him as a player better than Stubbs Assume back room staff are also a factor in that .

[scoopyboy]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

No, but Scott Allan is.

[we are hibs]

I'm sure Hibs will be well aware of the backlash they would receive should Scott Allan leave so I can't see it happening. Also, I can't see us selling our best player when we are trying to sell season tickets

[IanM]

I'm sure Hibs will be well aware of the backlash they would receive should Scott Allan leave so I can't see it happening. Also, I can't see us selling our best player when we are trying to sell season tickets

What happens if Allan has a clause in his contract where he could leave if we never got promoted? Could be out of Hibs hands. Can't see it mind but we just don't know.

Here's hoping he stays this final season. Gets us up as champions them goes on to enjoy the rest of his career wherever he chooses

[andrew70]

No, but Scott Allan is.

:thumbsup:

Yes, not getting at anyone individually but the amount of variances in the ways our supporters spell our players names frustrates me.

Anyway I think we'll get a few answers to different rumours this week and next. No inside info just based on Stubbs et al saying they wanted the squad to be more or less settled for pre-season.

[Spike Mandela]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

No, but he should be Hibs no1 priority to retain this summer and if possible extend his contract.

We are making some good signings for other areas of the team but imo all the good work will be undone if we lose Scott and end up back to square one looking for a creative, ball retainer in midfield who can adequately supply the attacking areas.

[Beefster]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

You think you're hard off. I only stumbled on here looking for porn.

[ManBearPig]

No, but he should be Hibs no1 priority to retain this summer and if possible extend his contract.

We are making some good signings for other areas of the team but imo all the good work will be undone if we lose Scott and end up back to square one looking for a creative, ball retainer in midfield who can adequately supply the attacking areas.

Whilst I agree he is our top player I think we have creativity in midfield with Fyvie and Carmichael and Boyle. And Allan is tied up at least for the season. Certainly important but all good work will certainly NOT be 'undone'

[andrew70]

What happens if Allan has a clause in his contract where he could leave if we never got promoted? Could be out of Hibs hands. Can't see it mind but we just don't know.

Here's hoping he stays this final season. Gets us up as champions them goes on to enjoy the rest of his career wherever he chooses

I think if this was the case and he wanted to leave his agent would have been in the paper saying as much. Allan will be here next season, Hibs would ruin the relationship between the club and supporters if he were to leave. This is something they've only just started to mend, to sell Allan now would not only be detrimental to our promotion chances it would also be downright bloody stupid.

The footballing side has been neglected for too long, we have people in charge now who are wanting to give us a club to be proud of. Scott Allan is a part of that and will be the whole season at least.

[MSK]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!I know, bloody terrible aint it, hibs fans on a hibs fans site wanting one of their best players signed up on a longer contract ...I will get onto changing the thread title pronto ...:aok:

[AlbertK86]

I know, bloody terrible aint it, hibs fans on a hibs fans site wanting one of their best players signed up on a longer contract ...I will get onto changing the thread title pronto ...:aok:

Well said

[FranckSuzy]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

You won't want to see this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FuwqSVXLn4) then :tee hee: Just wish Leanne would sign up Alen ASAP :wink:

[Baldy Foghorn]

I know, bloody terrible aint it, hibs fans on a hibs fans site wanting one of their best players signed up on a longer contract ...I will get onto changing the thread title pronto ...:aok:

Mental place at times....Agree with your post, how dare we as fans want quality signings:wink:

[Hedlund12]

I know, bloody terrible aint it, hibs fans on a hibs fans site wanting one of their best players signed up on a longer contract ...I will get onto changing the thread title pronto ...:aok:

Make sure you do then. That way I'll know to avoid it and be able to read about what it says on the tin!

Oh and by the way "there is no "I" in team".😆

[MSK]

Make sure you do then. That way I'll know to avoid it and be able to read about what it says on the tin!

Oh and by the way "there is no "I" in team".Oh, just for you I will.....when Allan signs his contract ..:aok:

[scoopyboy]

If we lose Stanton I can't help but feel we are really short in the midfield. With only really Allan and Fyvie as Roberstson is in limbo Craig is gone and Dylan is uncertain too. Rhys McCabe fits the bill with what he look for.

I agree with you to an extent regarding the midfield being short.

However, IMO that is not enough reason to keep Stanton if he isn't deemed by Hibs to be good enough.

I don't for a minute think if he goes to Dundee we will be left short in a key area of the squad.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I agree with you to an extent regarding the midfield being short.

However, IMO that is not enough reason to keep Stanton if he isn't deemed by Hibs to be good enough.

I don't for a minute think if he goes to Dundee we will be left short in a key area of the squad.

Spot on Scoops

[Andy74]

I agree with you to an extent regarding the midfield being short.

However, IMO that is not enough reason to keep Stanton if he isn't deemed by Hibs to be good enough.

I don't for a minute think if he goes to Dundee we will be left short in a key area of the squad.

Plenty time to address being short in certain areas. I would hope we would be working away on a few areas and I'm not too bothered what order they all happen, including people going before others come in. We are short of keepers for example but it was also right to let the young keeper go as he looked dodgy to me.

Stanton would come into the same category. If anyone wants him then let him go and we can replace in due course.

[NAE NOOKIE]

You think you're hard off. I only stumbled on here looking for porn.

If Allan signs an extension, Fontaine signs up and McGeough signs it will be porn ... :greengrin

[Diclonius]

Hibs will not sell to a title rival. It makes no financial sense.

It's basically "Do you want £1M to give your immediate rivals a far bigger chance of going up and getting far more than £1M instead of you?"

Why would we do that?

[JimBHibees]

Hibs will not sell to a title rival. It makes no financial sense.

It's basically "Do you want £1M to give your immediate rivals a far bigger chance of going up and getting far more than £1M instead of you?"

Why would we do that?

Of course that doesnt mean that he wont go to another team either in England or Celtc. I think rangers not going up means we wont sell him to them not that we wont sell him to anyone. Last year was his first real full season and while we cannot guarantee playing in the top league we can guarantee starting almost all games.

[Ozyhibby]

Hibs will not sell to a title rival. It makes no financial sense.

It's basically "Do you want £1M to give your immediate rivals a far bigger chance of going up and getting far more than £1M instead of you?"

Why would we do that?

Rangers don't have a million pounds. I doubt they will pay a single transfer fee this summer.

[Billychaotic182]

From what I've been reading it sounds like Handling has been playing as a holding midfielder and training hard behind the scenes on perfecting the role. He could be the reason we are letting Robertson go. Anyone seen the under 20s play that can confirm this and say how he is getting on as a holding midfielder

[WeeRussell]

Can someone rename this thread the "Scott Allen love in". I go between .net, FB and twitter to get updates on HIBS. Is Scott Allen the new Maradona!!!

You're one of those that have criticised/maintained that "he's no that guid" all season, and are still refusing to give-in aren't you?

Go on.. you are, aren't you?

:greengrin

[Hedlund12]

You're one of those that have criticised/maintained that "he's no that guid" all season, and are still refusing to give-in aren't you?

Go on.. you are, aren't you?

:greengrin

not quite... criticism of players is not my bag. IMO SA is a decent player and has made a very good contribution at Hibs but he's part of a team of players.
AS has shown what he's capable of in giving SA the opportunity he has... but for me personally ....there's more to Hibs than SA! 😉

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Hibs will not sell to a title rival. It makes no financial sense.

It's basically "Do you want £1M to give your immediate rivals a far bigger chance of going up and getting far more than £1M instead of you?"

Why would we do that?

How many people believe that if we had a bid of one million pounds, for any of our players, that we would turn it down?

[Andy74]

How many people believe that if we had a bid of one million pounds, for any of our players, that we would turn it down?

From Rangers? I think we would have to turn it down. It would undo every bit of work so far on and off the pitch.

[CallumLaidlaw]

From Rangers? I think we would have to turn it down. It would undo every bit of work so far on and off the pitch.

And here lies the problem. We SHOULD turn down any offer from them, but if £1m was offered, and Allan advised hibs that he would like to go, then I think he'd be away.
And then the club would be 12 months further back on their good work they'd done in rebuilding the relationship with the fans as it would be an admission that we aren't aiming to win the league in the fans eyes.

Can't see Rangers offering more than £500k tho, and they can swivel for that. Allan can stay and leave for nothing next summer after getting us promotion.

[CockneyRebel]

How many people believe that if we had a bid of one million pounds, for any of our players, that we would turn it down?


I don't think any club will be bidding £1 million for SA or any of our players.

[scoopyboy]

And here lies the problem. We SHOULD turn down any offer from them, but if £1m was offered, and Allan advised hibs that he would like to go, then I think he'd be away.
And then the club would be 12 months further back on their good work they'd done in rebuilding the relationship with the fans as it would be an admission that we aren't aiming to win the league in the fans eyes.

Can't see Rangers offering more than £500k tho, and they can swivel for that. Allan can stay and leave for nothing next summer after getting us promotion.

If we were offered £1,000,000 and he wanted to go then I think we would take it.

However, this doesn't mean we are 12 months behind again as long as we invest most or all of that million.

We could actually come out it stronger.

If I'm being honest though I would rather we kept Scott Allan.

[Andy74]

And here lies the problem. We SHOULD turn down any offer from them, but if £1m was offered, and Allan advised hibs that he would like to go, then I think he'd be away.
And then the club would be 12 months further back on their good work they'd done in rebuilding the relationship with the fans as it would be an admission that we aren't aiming to win the league in the fans eyes.

Can't see Rangers offering more than £500k tho, and they can swivel for that. Allan can stay and leave for nothing next summer after getting us promotion.

The reasons you have given are the ones which make Rangers the one option which Hibs would not give in to. It would be suicidal. Not that I think Rangers have the cash, but if they did, Rangers are the team we would simply not sell to this year.

[ski1875]

From what I've been reading it sounds like Handling has been playing as a holding midfielder and training hard behind the scenes on perfecting the role. He could be the reason we are letting Robertson go. Anyone seen the under 20s play that can confirm this and say how he is getting on as a holding midfielder

I heard he was offered a fee to leave but turned it down to see out his contract

[Billychaotic182]

I heard he was offered a fee to leave but turned it down to see out his contract

No offence but I find this really hard to believe since he is one of the poster boys for the new kit.

[ski1875]

No offence but I find this really hard to believe since he is one of the poster boys for the new kit.

That's fine mate only passing on what I heard, make of it what you please. He's not hibs class imo anyway. It wouldn't make sense to freeze him out completely even if my op was true.

[J-C]

Remember it might be a deep playmaker role and not a DM role for Danny, this would mean less defensive duties and allow Allan more freedom.

[Billychaotic182]

That's fine mate only passing on what I heard, make of it what you please. He's not hibs class imo anyway. It wouldn't make sense to freeze him out completely even if my op was true.

This is definitely a make or break season for him.

[Hedlund12]

[QUOTE=andrew70;4397129]:thumbsup:

Yes, not getting at anyone individually but the amount of variances in the ways our supporters spell our players names frustrates me.

oops.... silly me

Alen Stubs, Frazer Fivie, Lewis Stephenson,David Grey and James Keeting 😤

[Billy Whizz]

Remember it might be a deep playmaker role and not a DM role for Danny, this would mean less defensive duties and allow Allan more freedom.

Seemingly outstanding for scotland under 21's against Hungary in this role in April. I've seen him play many times as the playmaker for the development team, and I really think he can make it at Hibs in this role

[southern hibby]

How many people believe that if we had a bid of one million pounds, for any of our players, that we would turn it down?

I believe a bid of that money would be left to AS to decide and if he could get a quality player in to replace SA. If we gave the lot to AS to buy a player or 3, AS may consider it worth doing.

GGTTH

[FranckSuzy]

That's fine mate only passing on what I heard, make of it what you please. He's not hibs class imo anyway. It wouldn't make sense to freeze him out completely even if my op was true.

Jeez, you're hard to please! :greengrin

[HappyHanlon]

SevCo don't have a pot to p!ss in.

Dave King can make all the promises of windfalls but I bet it's nothing more than cold air. MASH will ask for the loan back and then they'll be in the brown stuff

Besides, Scott Allan won't make a sideways move, he's destined for another shot down south.

[ski1875]

Jeez, you're hard to please! :greengrin

Hard to please, or sick of mediocrity? Every youth through the academy isn't a superstar

[andrew70]

Hard to please, or sick of mediocrity? Every youth through the academy isn't a superstar

No but Danny is certainly a lot better than many give him credit for.

Watched him as a youth through his development years and he's a player of great ability. A superb passing range, an eye for goal and movement which is clever and clinical at the same time.

He's a talented lad and he has been doing a lot of individual work in training with regards to a deep lying playmaker role which Stubbs very quickly outlined as his vision for Danny.

Things may have moved on but I know Stubbs was very impressed with the ability that DH showed in his early days as manager of our football club.

I would suggest we will regret losing Danny if he has been allowed to leave. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he's a young player with bags of skill and I am confident he'll make it and in a higher league than we are currently in as well.

[Brightside]

No but Danny is certainly a lot better than many give him credit for.

Watched him as a youth through his development years and he's a player of great ability. A superb passing range, an eye for goal and movement which is clever and clinical at the same time.

He's a talented lad and he has been doing a lot of individual work in training with regards to a deep lying playmaker role which Stubbs very quickly outlined as his vision for Danny.

Things may have moved on but I know Stubbs was very impressed with the ability that DH showed in his early days as manager of our football club.

I would suggest we will regret losing Danny if he has been allowed to leave. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but he's a young player with bags of skill and I am confident he'll make it and in a higher league than we are currently in as well.

He's not going anywhere. Another player that will have a few eaten their words.

[Alex Trager]

He's not going anywhere. Another player that will have a few eaten their words.

Totally agree with this.

Good good player.


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[Nutmegged]

Theres no chance we'd get anything close to £1m for Allan from anyone let alone Sevco, if we got half of that then I think we'd be doing a deal whether we as fans think thats good business or not.

I like Allan a lot and theres no doubt he was a big part of our success last Season but he'll be 24 in a few months and he's only had one good Season in Professional Football and it was in the second tier of Scottish Football, bearing in mind the winners of the Chamlionship receive only £450,000 I'd certainly not be surprised if a bid in this region was accepted -if that mob look like they're getting their acts together as well then I'd not be surprised to see Scotty be open to any bid from them either - its natural, if someones boyhood heroes come in for them then we'd be deluding ourselves as fans if we believed it wouldn't at least give them some food for thought.

There's no doubt they'll be interested, my hope is that they low ball us by so much initially that it'll leave a bad taste in both Hibs and Allan's mouth so we'd then refuse to deal with them on this

[ski1875]

He's not going anywhere. Another player that will have a few eaten their words.

Aye we established that already when he wouldn't take his 50k pay off

[Geo_1875]

Theres no chance we'd get anything close to £1m for Allan from anyone let alone Sevco, if we got half of that then I think we'd be doing a deal whether we as fans think thats good business or not.

I like Allan a lot and theres no doubt he was a big part of our success last Season but he'll be 24 in a few months and he's only had one good Season in Professional Football and it was in the second tier of Scottish Football, bearing in mind the winners of the Chamlionship receive only £450,000 I'd certainly not be surprised if a bid in this region was accepted -if that mob look like they're getting their acts together as well then I'd not be surprised to see Scotty be open to any bid from them either - its natural, if someones boyhood heroes come in for them then we'd be deluding ourselves as fans if we believed it wouldn't at least give them some food for thought.

There's no doubt they'll be interested, my hope is that they low ball us by so much initially that it'll leave a bad taste in both Hibs and Allan's mouth so we'd then refuse to deal with them on this

I doubt Warburton has seen him play. They'll probably have other targets in their hunt for the free-flowing total football style that took Brentford to the dizzy heights of stuck in the championship.

[Mikey09]

The Rangers will put some pathetic bid of 150k for Scott Allan in the hope of unsettling the boy... They will then play the whole thing out in the Daily ****** in the hope that Hibs will sell for a few hundred grand more than that... It's what the old firm do.

[GordonHFC]

He had the choice last close season to go to them and chose us. Why do people think that anything has changed?

[Heisenberg]

@markratkinson: Contrary to reports Martin Boyle hasn't signed for Hibs yet. Talks at an advanced stage but deal not as close to completion as some make out

[Beefster]

He had the choice last close season to go to them and chose us.

Not strictly true.

[Hibeewilly]

He had the choice last close season to go to them and chose us. Why do people think that anything has changed?
I cant understand it either. The player has said publicly he wants to stay and he is under contract anyway. Unless a huge offer was put to the Board they wont even consider it. We are trying to get the lapsed STMs back so cant afford any more bad PR. IMO he is going nowhere

[S4uzee]

@markratkinson: Contrary to reports Martin Boyle hasn't signed for Hibs yet. Talks at an advanced stage but deal not as close to completion as some make out

I only ever believe it if its on the official website :agree:

[GordonHFC]

Not strictly true.

Sorry Beefster, should get my facts right. The Rangers looked at him but fat Sally refused to offer him a contract. More fool him as SA might just have been the difference to them.

[J-C]

Aye we established that already when he wouldn't take his 50k pay off

And you this as fact how???

[ski1875]

And you this as fact how???

I don't but these young players have loose lips down east Lothian way

[Andy74]

@markratkinson: Contrary to reports Martin Boyle hasn't signed for Hibs yet. Talks at an advanced stage but deal not as close to completion as some make out

Might be better all round if HSL left signing announcements to the Club. Very odd that they ever felt in a position to be doing this!

[Brightside]

Aye we established that already when he wouldn't take his 50k pay off

Just making stuff up now aye?

[Baldy Foghorn]

Might be better all round if HSL left signing announcements to the Club. Very odd that they ever felt in a position to be doing this!

:agree::agree:

[CmoantheHibs]

The Rangers will put some pathetic bid of 150k for Scott Allan in the hope of unsettling the boy... They will then play the whole thing out in the Daily ****** in the hope that Hibs will sell for a few hundred grand more than that... It's what the old firm do.

:agree: Whether it is with a bid for a player or whichever way possible they will try to destabilise us.I think Stubbs will already have warned the players about it and we seem to be a very close knit group so hopefully it doesnt have the affect it intended.

[GreenArmyyy!]

Boyle said at the sponsors evening to me that he would be delighted to stay "if the gaffer wanted him to" so all things considered I would be extremely surprised if he doesn't sign.

[ski1875]

Just making stuff up now aye?

Look mate am just putting up what I heard I never asked u to believe me.

[Matty_Jack04]

:agree: Whether it is with a bid for a player or whichever way possible they will try to destabilise us.I think Stubbs will already have warned the players about it and we seem to be a very close knit group so hopefully it doesnt have the affect it intended.

I strongly believe within the next 2 weeks Allan will sign a 1yr extension and Fontaine will sign a 2 yr contract, I just hope the Rangers start there media destabilising tricks around the same time so we can stick the 2 fingers up straight away

[S4uzee]

I strongly believe within the next 2 weeks Allan will sign a 1yr extension and Fontaine will sign a 2 yr contract, I just hope the Rangers start there media destabilising tricks around the same time so we can stick the 2 fingers up straight away

I think Fontaine will sign but I can't see Allan signing an extension unfortunately

[GreenArmyyy!]

I strongly believe within the next 2 weeks Allan will sign a 1yr extension and Fontaine will sign a 2 yr contract, I just hope the Rangers start there media destabilising tricks around the same time so we can stick the 2 fingers up straight away

IMO Fontaine has already signed the deal and it will be announced with the release of the strip on Friday. No inside info, just a hunch.

I also agree that Allan will sign a one year extension as a bit of loyalty for what we have given him over the past year. He will be off to bigger and better things next year. Hopefully back down south.

[GreenArmyyy!]

Boyle just uploaded a video to his Facebook page of his first time back on a training bike since his op. No mention of anything football related.

[.Sean.]

Boyle's still to agree personal terms I believe.

[Allant1981]

He's not going anywhere. Another player that will have a few eaten their words.

The guy struggled to get a game in the first division so i highly doubt folk will be eating their words. He isnt good enough no matter how much you back him

[Kojock]

The guy struggled to get a game in the first division so i highly doubt folk will be eating their words. He isnt good enough no matter how much you back him

He struggled to get his game for Hibs its irrespective what league we were in. If Stubbs thinks he is good enough for us then I will trust his judgement.

[bingo70]

He struggled to get his game for Hibs its irrespective what league we were in. If Stubbs thinks he is good enough for us then I will trust his judgement.

He didn't, he hardly played towards the end of the season.

I'd be delighted if handling proved me wrong but there has to come a point we accept its not going to happen. In footballing terms he's not that young any more, Imo if he was as good as some are suggesting he'd have more of an impact by now.

[jacomo]

He didn't, he hardly played towards the end of the season.

I'd be delighted if handling proved me wrong but there has to come a point we accept its not going to happen. In footballing terms he's not that young any more, Imo if he was as good as some are suggesting he'd have more of an impact by now.

Patience, I reckon. We've not reached that point yet.

[The Leith Dutch]

Imo if he was as good as some are suggesting he'd have more of an impact by now.

I had very high hopes for Handling but it's hard to disagree with this.

He's also been around the first team a long time - only a couple of months older than Stanton but far more time around the first team and worth pointing out that a great deal of that time has been in either a poor Hibs team or a poor league.

3 goals in 55 appearances in the league.
Stanton came in a year later and has a very similar 3 in 53.

Not having a pop at either of them and I would absolutely love it if this season they were both first team regulars turning in a string of impressive performances but they're not grabbing their chance yet.

Apples and Oranges up to a point but Harry Kane is about 6 months older and you could look at what he did when Spurs brought him in in November to see how you grab your chance.

[Unseen work]

I think people forget Danny had a very good spell earlier in the season where he started about 10-15 games in a row. I have really high expectations for him this season in the deep lying playmaker role.

Also i hate when people say "he can't get a game for a championship club"
Although we play in the championship, the majority of our squad could easily play at a higher level, especially in midfield with the likes of Allan mcgeouch and fyvie, even Craig and Robertson are experienced competent spl players that would be snapped up no problem

[Andy74]

I think people forget Danny had a very good spell earlier in the season where he started about 10-15 games in a row. I have really high expectations for him this season in the deep lying playmaker role.

Also i hate when people say "he can't get a game for a championship club"
Although we play in the championship, the majority of our squad could easily play at a higher level, especially in midfield with the likes of Allan mcgeouch and fyvie, even Craig and Robertson are experienced competent spl players that would be snapped up no problem

I don't think our form was great when he played though. It picked up when McGeough took over.

A Hibs player should be at least a competent SPL player surely? If he isn't that then time to move on.

[Smartie]

I think people forget Danny had a very good spell earlier in the season where he started about 10-15 games in a row. I have really high expectations for him this season in the deep lying playmaker role.

Also i hate when people say "he can't get a game for a championship club"
Although we play in the championship, the majority of our squad could easily play at a higher level, especially in midfield with the likes of Allan mcgeouch and fyvie, even Craig and Robertson are experienced competent spl players that would be snapped up no problem

Good post.

I thought that at times Danny looked like he was our best player at the start of the season 2 seasons ago under Fenlon. He was shunted about and never given a run in the same position but did well in an admittedly poor team.

The only real, consistent run he's had in the team was that spell last season and it was the run of games that saw us emerge from our terrible early season form into the decent form that we saw from about November onwards. He had some really good performances during that spell and whilst I thought the balance in midfield was often wrong last season we always seemed to look better as a team when Danny was in there. He's tidy on the ball and has a good habit of joining up the midfield and strikers and also choosing the right ball to bring the fullbacks into play.

The last time I remember him playing was when he went on as sub in a game in which we were toiling at home and he really struggled. I don't think he is an impact player who can affect games (unlike Stanton who did this to great effect once or twice) but if he plays from the start then I think he can have a big influence on games.

He's still a bit lightweight for me and seems to get brushed off the ball a bit easily but he's a talented, clever player and I'd be happy to see him stay and play a role next season.

With the pace of Boyle, Keatings and Carmichael for him to hit with accurate passes I could see him being an asset.

[Smartie]

I don't think our form was great when he played though. It picked up when McGeough took over.

A Hibs player should be at least a competent SPL player surely? If he isn't that then time to move on.

His form helped us turn last season around. I remember thinking we'd turned a corner last November when we hammered Dumbarton away. He was outstanding in that game, along with Liam Craig.

I also remember a game at ER around that time when he player 3 or 4 cracking balls in behind a packed defence.

As I mentioned elsewhere he did fine when asked to under Fenlon at the start of last season but he was playing in an awful team and he was moved all over the place during that time. I'd say he would be a competent SPL player. No shame really in not getting a game ahead of Robertson, Allan, McGeoch, Fyvie or Craig who would all be considered to be at least good SPL level players.

[JimBHibees]

His form helped us turn last season around. I remember thinking we'd turned a corner last November when we hammered Dumbarton away. He was outstanding in that game, along with Liam Craig.

I also remember a game at ER around that time when he player 3 or 4 cracking balls in behind a packed defence.

As I mentioned elsewhere he did fine when asked to under Fenlon at the start of last season but he was playing in an awful team and he was moved all over the place during that time. I'd say he would be a competent SPL player. No shame really in not getting a game ahead of Robertson, Allan, McGeoch, Fyvie or Craig who would all be considered to be at least good SPL level players.

He has been around a while and at no point in that time IMO would he be considered an automatic first start. He has talent however a bit like Sam Stanton the times they had opportunities nearer the end of last season they were pretty disappointing. He is not a bad player however to me has it all to prove that he could be a mainstay at Hibs. The pre-season coming up is huge for him and wouldnt be altogether shocked if he hadnt made an impression in that time that he is shipped out either on a loan capacity or permanent.

[Andy74]

His form helped us turn last season around. I remember thinking we'd turned a corner last November when we hammered Dumbarton away. He was outstanding in that game, along with Liam Craig.

I also remember a game at ER around that time when he player 3 or 4 cracking balls in behind a packed defence.

As I mentioned elsewhere he did fine when asked to under Fenlon at the start of last season but he was playing in an awful team and he was moved all over the place during that time. I'd say he would be a competent SPL player. No shame really in not getting a game ahead of Robertson, Allan, McGeoch, Fyvie or Craig who would all be considered to be at least good SPL level players.

By no stretch of the imagination did Handling's form turn us around last season.

[J-C]

I think people forget Danny had a very good spell earlier in the season where he started about 10-15 games in a row. I have really high expectations for him this season in the deep lying playmaker role.

Also i hate when people say "he can't get a game for a championship club"
Although we play in the championship, the majority of our squad could easily play at a higher level, especially in midfield with the likes of Allan mcgeouch and fyvie, even Craig and Robertson are experienced competent spl players that would be snapped up no problem


Danny was outstanding in the 1st cup game against Rangers before his sending off, he played a deep playmaking role that day, he was also part of the team that went on our very good run around december time, taking over from McGeouch. I think he has a very good footballing brain and can fit into the no.10 role or sit a bit deeper but this will all depend on which tactic Stubbs decides to play this year.

If he goes for the diamond again, then Danny may be a regular starter but if it's 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then he'll miss out as the 3 in midfield will be Allan, Fyvie and Carmichael, so it may be bit part games for both Handling and Stanton, hence why a loan spell may be best for both.

[Smartie]

By no stretch of the imagination did Handling's form turn us around last season.

His form helped. He had a regular place in a team that went from being a struggling one to one that was playing well. This was at a time when McGeoch was injured and out of the team.

I agree with those that say he has a lot to prove and I remain to be 100% convinced by him.

But I think it is unfair to ignore the positive contribution he has made at times. And it's not like he's played half a dozen games or so - he has featured in 50 odd and has been a useful player for us at times including a big contribution during a run in the team at a critical point for us last season.

[JimBHibees]

His form helped. He had a regular place in a team that went from being a struggling one to one that was playing well. This was at a time when McGeoch was injured and out of the team.

I agree with those that say he has a lot to prove and I remain to be 100% convinced by him.

But I think it is unfair to ignore the positive contribution he has made at times. And it's not like he's played half a dozen games or so - he has featured in 50 odd and has been a useful player for us at times including a big contribution during a run in the team at a critical point for us last season.

I think Danny contributed however the best run of form we had was when Scott Allan was in unstoppable form such as the Dumbarton game away and also Rangers at home at Christmas.

[CallumLaidlaw]

We can rule out Kallum Higginbotham - he's signed for Burton Albion, subject to medical. They've also signed Callum Butcher that Motherwell had on loan last season.

[Winston Ingram]

I think people forget Danny had a very good spell earlier in the season where he started about 10-15 games in a row. I have really high expectations for him this season in the deep lying playmaker role.

Also i hate when people say "he can't get a game for a championship club"
Although we play in the championship, the majority of our squad could easily play at a higher level, especially in midfield with the likes of Allan mcgeouch and fyvie, even Craig and Robertson are experienced competent spl players that would be snapped up no problem

He had a good run of games. He probably only mustered 2 or 3 decent games in that spell. He worked hard as always but his problem is that he's rarely on the ball.

I genuinely believe he's playing to far forward. He looks like he'd be a decent sitting MF

[Smartie]

I think Danny contributed however the best run of form we had was when Scott Allan was in unstoppable form such as the Dumbarton game away and also Rangers at home at Christmas.

I think that more than anything the key to our success next season will be building a team that enables Scott Allan to play his best stuff and that will involve having the right players up front, out wide and midfield with him.

I thought Danny helped contribute to Allan's best form. As did Liam Craig btw and I thought that Scott Allan's form dipped a bit when he had Fyvie, McGeoch and (to a lesser extent) Robertson all trying to do the same thing as him.

He played better when Craig and Handling were in the team with him. Not that I am suggesting for a second that these players are as good as Fyvie or McGeoch but the balance just seemed to be better and our best team performances came during this period.

[eastmainsmsh]

I think with craig leaving Stanton will feature more expect good things from him and handling

[bigwheel]

I think with craig leaving Stanton will feature more expect good things from him and handling


I agree with this. I will be very disappointed if we let Stanton go. At his best, he is a top young player. It's way too early to let him go.

[Beefster]

I think with craig leaving Stanton will feature more expect good things from him and handling

I'd be slightly worried if a player behind Craig in the pecking order was seen as his replacement.

More generally, we need to go up this coming season and can't be relying on players who have had plenty of chances but never really taken them.

[Ozyhibby]

I'd be slightly worried if a player behind Craig in the pecking order was seen as his replacement.

More generally, we need to go up this coming season and can't be relying on players who have had plenty of chances but never really taken them.

Could not agree more.

[Golden Bear]

I agree with this. I will be very disappointed if we let Stanton go. At his best, he is a top young player. It's way too early to let him go.

:agree:

He's been slightly disappointing in so far he's not made the best of the limited opportunities made available to him but I'm still of the opinion that there's a talented football player lurking in there somewhere and hopefully he'll go on to prove himself this season.

[bigwheel]

I'd be slightly worried if a player behind Craig in the pecking order was seen as his replacement.

More generally, we need to go up this coming season and can't be relying on players who have had plenty of chances but never really taken them.


I think Stanton is 19/20 years old...you don't think players can develop and change their performance levels?

[Thecat23]

I agree with this. I will be very disappointed if we let Stanton go. At his best, he is a top young player. It's way too early to let him go.

What if we brought in someone better? I wouldn't lose sleep if Stubbs let's him go and I would be happy if stubbs keeps him on as well as he's a good squad player.

[leither17]

Is Stanton not going to Dundee?

[Golden Bear]

Is Stanton not going to Dundee?

Seen that mentioned somewhere but I'm not sure if there's any substance to the story. Hopefully it's just tittle tattle.

[bigwheel]

What if we brought in someone better? I wouldn't lose sleep if Stubbs let's him go and I would be happy if stubbs keeps him on as well as he's a good squad player.


...I think it's too early to let him go at this stage... so I'd prefer him to stay and develop.

[Thecat23]

...I think it's too early to let him go at this stage... so I'd prefer him to stay and develop.

That's fair enough as I do think there is a player there. What I would say Is he can't just have one good game in 5 In this league, he has to start doing it week in week out when he gets the chance. If not then i'd let him go in Jan. I've been very disapointed in Harris, Stanton and Handling past year or so and all three need to up their game. The fact folk say Handling played well in the very first game against The Rangers says it all for me. Once stand out performance isn't good enough at this level.

[Billychaotic182]

So what's happening with Boyle? Strange the hsl tweeted it if it wasn't done?

[Lago]

That's fair enough as I do think there is a player there. What I would say Is he can't just have one good game in 5 In this league, he has to start doing it week in week out when he gets the chance. If not then i'd let him go in Jan. I've been very disapointed in Harris, Stanton and Handling past year or so and all three need to up their game. The fact folk say Handling played well in the very first game against The Rangers says it all for me. Once stand out performance isn't good enough at this level.
:top marks

[Lago]

Strange situation with Martin Boyle, now being reported to be in advanced talks about signing, last week supposedly signed 2 year deal.

[Stevie Reid]

Will be happy with whatever Stubbs decides on this - ideally I'd like all three to stay for now. I cannot argue one bit with those who have stated that they haven't done enough for us so far, but they are still young enough to be given the benefit of any doubt IMO.

All three have only been coached by Stubbs and the backroom team for less than a year - another season of it may well make the world of difference. Not every young player can have a huge impact when they first break through (although Stanton and Harris made a very big impression when they first emerged when we were in the SPL) - some break through in style and never look back, so; some break through and have a set back, before re-emerging again; some float around in the background and come to prominence later. Some, of course, end up dropping out of the game completely.

I'm pretty convinced that all three will have a decent career - but if Stubbs ultimately feels it more beneficial to our progress as a club to move them on and bring other in, I won't argue with that.

[bigwheel]

That's fair enough as I do think there is a player there. What I would say Is he can't just have one good game in 5 In this league, he has to start doing it week in week out when he gets the chance. If not then i'd let him go in Jan. I've been very disapointed in Harris, Stanton and Handling past year or so and all three need to up their game. The fact folk say Handling played well in the very first game against The Rangers says it all for me. Once stand out performance isn't good enough at this level.


Cant disagree with any of that...I think the difference between Handling and Stanton is that Handling got to start a decent number of games last year, whereas Stanton didn't. It's very hard to cone on and always make a difference. I agree he need to contribute better and more consistently. He also needs to start 6 or 7 games in a row and then see how he is doing. Handling actually started the season well, then never took his chance later in the season when he got back in the team...

Harris is a little different for me - didn't do enough when in the team. I'd don't see a future for him which Carmichael and Boyle signing..So if any of them should move, I'd plump for him...

[California-Hibs]

Still no talk regarding any keepers? We're needing 2 of them, surprised there hasn't been more talk about this.

[liamh2202]

Danny was outstanding in the 1st cup game against Rangers before his sending off, he played a deep playmaking role that day, he was also part of the team that went on our very good run around december time, taking over from McGeouch. I think he has a very good footballing brain and can fit into the no.10 role or sit a bit deeper but this will all depend on which tactic Stubbs decides to play this year.

If he goes for the diamond again, then Danny may be a regular starter but if it's 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 then he'll miss out as the 3 in midfield will be Allan, Fyvie and Carmichael, so it may be bit part games for both Handling and Stanton, hence why a loan spell may be best for both.

I agree he was outstanding that night and the game changed on the decision to send him off

[Danderhall Hibs]

Maybe Danny Handling's on a different wavelength to the test of the team and they make him look poor?

[bigwheel]

Maybe Danny Handling's on a different wavelength to the test of the team and they make him look poor?


Danny, is that you? :)

[andrew70]

Maybe Danny Handling's on a different wavelength to the test of the team and they make him look poor?

I wouldn't quite say that but Danny Handling is a fantastic player and certainly better than what most on here would have you believe. We'd be extremely stupid to let a player of his quality go.

Highly rated at international level as well may I add.

[truehibernian]

I wouldn't quite say that but Danny Handling is a fantastic player and certainly better than what most on here would have you believe. We'd be extremely stupid to let a player of his quality go.

Highly rated at international level as well may I add.

'Coached' and brought into the side by two very poor managers it also has to be said, in negative, uncreative, industrial, bottom 6 sides.

Last season was the first where he could play football and have others around him who were as good or better, to actually play an attack minded game where there was lots of possession and chances created. Another season under Stubbs and the team will have him in a great state of mind and he will continue to enjoy his football again.

He was very comfortable on the ball last season and played his part.

[madhatter]

'Coached' and brought into the side by two very poor managers it also has to be said, in negative, uncreative, industrial, bottom 6 sides.

Last season was the first where he could play football and have others around him who were as good or better, to actually play an attack minded game where there was lots of possession and chances created. Another season under Stubbs and the team will have him in a great state of mind and he will continue to enjoy his football again.

He was very comfortable on the ball last season and played his part.

My problem with him is really that he expects far too long on the ball. He doesn't have any pace and is physically weak. If he sorted some of these problems out he would be a decent 1st team player for us.

[andrew70]

'Coached' and brought into the side by two very poor managers it also has to be said, in negative, uncreative, industrial, bottom 6 sides.

Last season was the first where he could play football and have others around him who were as good or better, to actually play an attack minded game where there was lots of possession and chances created. Another season under Stubbs and the team will have him in a great state of mind and he will continue to enjoy his football again.

He was very comfortable on the ball last season and played his part.

Correct, he certainly never done anything wrong when in the side.

Look forward to seeing more of this fine young talent in a Hibs shirt.

With regards to the bit in bold I don't believe people realise just how poor the whole structure was at the club. As a result of this and other circumstances players like Stanton, Harris, Handling and more have been neglected when it came to their personal development when being readied for a first team spot.

That goes for first team players as well, these things take time to sort out but they are making big strides and I expect whoever makes up the first team squad this season will be more than equipped for winning this division and in some comfort.

[Gatecrasher]

I wouldn't quite say that but Danny Handling is a fantastic player and certainly better than what most on here would have you believe. We'd be extremely stupid to let a player of his quality go.

Highly rated at international level as well may I add.
:agree: I agree, Danny is better than a lot are making him out to be. I think a DM role might suit him. He needs to start performing more consistently though.

[andrew70]

My problem with him is really that he expects far too long on the ball. He doesn't have any pace and is physically weak. If he sorted some of these problems out he would be a decent 1st team player for us.

He plays with his head up all the time he can't pass when no one is making a move as was often the case early last season, don't have to be fast to be good and if he was physically weak why did he manage to score 7 in 7 (iirc) for Berwick Rangers in the 3rd division when playing up against the cloggers in that league?

He's more than a decent 1st team player for us and I think he'll be an important first team player this coming season.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

Still no talk regarding any keepers? We're needing 2 of them, surprised there hasn't been more talk about this.

just thinking the same thing. not even seen a rumour regarding a keeper.

would zaluska come to us? or the dundee united keeper? maybe kello? donno any other who might be a possibility? maybe an old pair of gloves would be good. you think goram might make a return?

[California-Hibs]

Why has a transfer thread turned into a Danny Handling thread? Cmon folks, let's keep on topic!

[Hibstrooper]

When Hibs revamped the whole club last season did we not introduce a three tiered approach to each position:

1 - First team player
2 - Backup
3 - youth player

Was the idea not also that if the backup was ready to move up to the first team or youth to backup that players would be moved on to accommodate and that could result in players you maybe wouldn't necessarily get rid of going.

That could be what we are seeing here with Stanton and Handling if rumours are to be believed. Their moving on is to perhaps create a bit more space for the likes of Scott Martin to develop

[Andy74]

I wouldn't quite say that but Danny Handling is a fantastic player and certainly better than what most on here would have you believe. We'd be extremely stupid to let a player of his quality go.

Highly rated at international level as well may I add.

Let's be realistic here. Someone who has had little impact in 50 odd games cannot be called a fantastic player.

He may have some ability and potential but it's quickly getting to the time he needs to put that into performances.

[Iceman1875]

I wouldn't lose sleep over Handling leaving. I have yet to see him make a consistent impact in a Hibs shirt. The love in for the boy on here is a bit OTT, IMO [emoji6] Stanton I'm unsure about, I'd give him another season.


At Easter Road we play...

[madhatter]

He plays with his head up all the time he can't pass when no one is making a move as was often the case early last season, don't have to be fast to be good and if he was physically weak why did he manage to score 7 in 7 (iirc) for Berwick Rangers in the 3rd division when playing up against the cloggers in that league?

He's more than a decent 1st team player for us and I think he'll be an important first team player this coming season.


Jeezo. It wasn't meant as a dig at the man but many times this season gone he delayed passing the ball and lost possession. Pace isn't a problem as long as he picks out passes quicker, can't be slow at running and slow at picking a pass. Scott Allan is an example of being able of beating a man with pace but if not then he is generally quick to see a pass. Sadly he is physically weak (has improved on this) but numerous notable times he was bullied off the ball when he was lacklustre on the ball.

Sadly at the moment is a decent backup player, if he improved on passing accuracy and vision as well as strength, he will, as you say, become an important first team player this coming season.

[Michael]

I wouldn't lose sleep over Handling leaving. I have yet to see him make a consistent impact in a Hibs shirt.

Or an inconsistent impact for that matter.

[SteveHFC]

I wouldn't lose sleep over Handling leaving. I have yet to see him make a consistent impact in a Hibs shirt.

He was excellent at Ibrox last season in the first game but has done **** all.

[IanM]

I know it's not an area we're looking to improve on for the first team but I'm quite surprised, to my knowledge, that there hasn't been much interest in Myles Hypolite from Livingston. Purely based on what I seen of him he knows how to finish and that's the type of player id like to see at Hibs. Some young raw talent Stubbs can work with. We've got quite a competitive development league and could always go out on loan.

[Brightside]

When Hibs revamped the whole club last season did we not introduce a three tiered approach to each position:

1 - First team player
2 - Backup
3 - youth player

Was the idea not also that if the backup was ready to move up to the first team or youth to backup that players would be moved on to accommodate and that could result in players you maybe wouldn't necessarily get rid of going.

That could be what we are seeing here with Stanton and Handling if rumours are to be believed. Their moving on is to perhaps create a bit more space for the likes of Scott Martin to develop

No one has said they are leaving... there are a few on here that would like them to go but there are not even any decent rumours about them going to others clubs. You may as well be chatting about Stubbs going!

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Handling should be given to january to prove himself and if it doesn't work out then we should release him in...harris hasn't been the same since his injury and if he stays with us then I'd give him to january too

[The_Horde]

I know it's not an area we're looking to improve on for the first team but I'm quite surprised, to my knowledge, that there hasn't been much interest in Myles Hypolite from Livingston. Purely based on what I seen of him he knows how to finish and that's the type of player id like to see at Hibs. Some young raw talent Stubbs can work with. We've got quite a competitive development league and could always go out on loan.

Had a few good games at the end of the season but livi fans I know wanted rid of him before then.

[BSEJVT]

Handling should be given to january to prove himself and if it doesn't work out then we should release him in...harris hasn't been the same since his injury and if he stays with us then I'd give him to january too

The problem with that is that all 3 have longer contracts than January and if we release them then then it will cost us to pay off the remainder of their contracts.

Its probably going to be harder for them to pick up clubs at that time, hence the possible need to pay them a wedge to go at that time. They will also take us space on the subs bench under 20 games etc and my view is that if they were going to make it they would be holding down at least a semi regular place by now. As for example did David Wotherspoon who was IMO a poorer prospect than any of these 3.

If it is indeed the case that all 3 (or any of them) have been told they can go now, it is presumably with a view to getting them off the books for nothing.

One of Hibs greater failings over recent years has been to have a large squad of bang average players available for selection.

It must be quite difficult as a manager knowing that on their day Danny, Sam & Boozy are capable and to resist the temptation to look to them when a change is needed.

If they aren't there then he will need to try out someone else from the youths who can maybe go on and stake a claim for a permanent place and may be be free of the baggage that these poor boys have carried as a result of poor under 20 and terrible first team management over their careers.

Stubbs and his coaches have seen these 3 boys for a year now and if their coaching hasn't transformed their careers by now it isn't going to. If there were to be a light bulb moment it would have happened by now.

[DAVE1875]

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It saddens to me to say that I wont be at Hibs next season, I enjoyed last season&am saying gdbye to a lot of true friends #goodlucknextyear (https://twitter.com/hashtag/goodlucknextyear?src=hash)

[muzzando]

I know it's not an area we're looking to improve on for the first team but I'm quite surprised, to my knowledge, that there hasn't been much interest in Myles Hypolite from Livingston. Purely based on what I seen of him he knows how to finish and that's the type of player id like to see at Hibs. Some young raw talent Stubbs can work with. We've got quite a competitive development league and could always go out on loan.


Livi fan I know was saying towards the end of last season that apparently we were in talks with him but that obviously hasn't come to anything.

[Pray4Marc]

We really need a Matty Jack like presence in midfield. Fyvie for me is the only one who can really do the defensive role now. If he gets injured we could have a problem. Preferably someone with a physical presence who can bully this opposition and let are flair players play.

[GreenArmyyy!]

I am guessing that it is not the real Leigh Griffiths but a LG Facebook page has just put up they are gutted to see McGeough leave but Hibs have got themselves a real good player.

[S4uzee]

I am guessing that it is not the real Leigh Griffiths but a LG Facebook page has just put up they are gutted to see McGeough leave but Hibs have got themselves a real good player.

No it's a fake one. Even says he graduated from university 😂

[GreenArmyyy!]

No it's a fake one. Even says he graduated from university 😂

😂 never noticed that.

[Billychaotic182]

Jackson Irvines name doing the rounds on fb and Twitter

[J-C]

Jackson Irvines name doing the rounds on fb and Twitter


A CH/DM which is the position needing strengthened, would be a loan as he's contracted to Celtic.

[JimBHibees]

Jackson Irvines name doing the rounds on fb and Twitter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Irvine

Sounds interesting young and can play centre back or defensive midfielder. Would assume a loan from Celtc if it happens.

[Billychaotic182]

Sure I read he is a free agent

[CapitalGreen]

A CH/DM which is the position needing strengthened, would be a loan as he's contracted to Celtic.

Contract expires at the end of the month according to this - usually quite reliable.

[S4uzee]

Jackson Irvines name doing the rounds on fb and Twitter

I would hope not. I remember him looking like he could barely run when at killie

[The_Horde]

Seemed a decent player at killie. Ran one of their games against us. That said.. It was under butcher..

[CallumLaidlaw]

I would hope not. I remember him looking like he could barely run when at killie

Ross County fans are desperate for him to sign for them anyway

[CallumLaidlaw]

A CH/DM which is the position needing strengthened, would be a loan as he's contracted to Celtic.

They've released him.

[silverhibee]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson_Irvine

Sounds interesting young and can play centre back or defensive midfielder. Would assume a loan from Celtc if it happens.


Thought we were trying to move away from bringing in loan players.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Looks like Mcgeoch has or is signing for us according to Leigh's Facebook post:-



"Gutted to see Dylan McGeouch leave but what a club he is going to! Hibs have got themselves a real good player as I'm sure they all saw last season!"

Fact or fiction?

:hmmm:

Not Leighs facebook page.

[J-C]

Thought we were trying to move away from bringing in loan players.


According to a couple of posters above, he's been released.

[iainm1875]

I know it's not an area we're looking to improve on for the first team but I'm quite surprised, to my knowledge, that there hasn't been much interest in Myles Hypolite from Livingston. Purely based on what I seen of him he knows how to finish and that's the type of player id like to see at Hibs. Some young raw talent Stubbs can work with. We've got quite a competitive development league and could always go out on loan.

I too liked the look of the Hippo in that last game at Livingston.


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[mentalhibee]

Ross county are keen to keep him after being on loan there last season. Sounds like he fits the bill as we need a defensive midfielder.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Mark Brown has signed for Dumbarton

[The_Horde]

Mark Brown has signed for Dumbarton

Finally found his true level then.

[Diclonius]

Mark Brown has signed for Dumbarton

Mark Brown was Dumbarton's hero on Saturday afternoon as the experienced keeper produced a man-of-the-match performance in a final day 1-0 win against former club Hibernian at Easter Road, denying the Easter Road the Scottish Championship title and automatic promotion.

[ACLeith]

Mark Brown was Dumbarton's hero on Saturday afternoon as the experienced keeper produced a man-of-the-match performance in a final day 1-0 win against former club Hibernian at Easter Road, denying the Easter Road the Scottish Championship title and automatic promotion.

But Danny Handling's hat trick in our cup final win made up for that disappointment surely?

[BSEJVT]

Mark Brown was Dumbarton's hero on Saturday afternoon as the experienced keeper produced a man-of-the-match performance in a final day 1-0 win against former club Hibernian at Easter Road, denying the Easter Road the Scottish Championship title and automatic promotion.

I thought Brown was an absolutely awful goalie

I don't remember him ever saving a shot I didn't think I couldn't have

I do however remember him failing to save quite a few I thought I would have

[The Leith Dutch]

I thought Brown was an absolutely awful goalie

I don't remember him ever saving a shot I didn't think I couldn't have

I do however remember him failing to save quite a few I thought I would have


Might be misremembering but wasn't he the keeper who couldn't keep his goal kicks within the width of the pitch?

[Diclonius]

Might be misremembering but wasn't he the keeper who couldn't keep his goal kicks within the width of the pitch?

Wasn't that Stack?

[Broken Gnome]

I thought Brown was an absolutely awful goalie

I don't remember him ever saving a shot I didn't think I couldn't have

I do however remember him failing to save quite a few I thought I would have

Can remember two belters, one at Pittodrie and one in the last minute against Ayr, thus giving us a heroic extra 90 minutes of cup action before the eventual humiliation.

Sadly just remember he was beaten by everything in the final a year later.

[liamh2202]

Might be misremembering but wasn't he the keeper who couldn't keep his goal kicks within the width of the pitch?

Jim Leighton ;)

[GreenCastle]

Might be misremembering but wasn't he the keeper who couldn't keep his goal kicks within the width of the pitch?

Yes it was Brown - several home games at ER he kicked straight out into the East Stand area.

We have had some horrendous keepers over the years.

[JimBHibees]

Yes it was Brown - several home games at ER he kicked straight out into the East Stand area.

We have had some horrendous keepers over the years.

Yep his kicking was similar to my driving at golf. Fore. :greengrin

[The Leith Dutch]

Yes it was Brown - several home games at ER he kicked straight out into the East Stand area.

We have had some horrendous keepers over the years.

Couldn't remember the keeper but I remember and offside and one of our defenders chucked the ball back to him to take the free kick.
Guy behind yelled out "Why are you giving him the ball? He couldnae kick my a**e if he was holding my hand"

:)

[Billy Whizz]

Yes it was Brown - several home games at ER he kicked straight out into the East Stand area.

We have had some horrendous keepers over the years.

Ben was terrible at kick outs as well

[SaulGoodman]

Makalamby used to get a defender to kick it out for him.

[erin go bragh]

I thought Brown was an absolutely awful goalie

I don't remember him ever saving a shot I didn't think I couldn't have

I do however remember him failing to save quite a few I thought I would have
Was it no Brown that produced a wonder save at Castle Greyskull . finger tipping the ball over the bar in one of our 3-0 victories. Still an awful keeper tho .

GGTTH

[GreenOnions]

Ben was terrible at kick outs as well

I liked Williams. However - the thing that used to really annoy me though was the incredible length of time he took to take bye kicks etc. He never showed any urgency and really slowed everything down IMO - the opposite of what is required.

[cam75]

Makalamby used to get a defender to kick it out for him.

Did he not kick it off a aberdeen player and the ball went in the net ?

[patlowe]

Was it no Brown that produced a wonder save at Castle Greyskull . finger tipping the ball over the bar in one of our 3-0 victories. Still an awful keeper tho .

GGTTH

Yep - it was at 0-0 in the cup win IIRC and set us up for what was one of my favourite ever wins.

[Smartie]

Yep - it was at 0-0 in the cup win IIRC and set us up for what was one of my favourite ever wins.

Was that not Simon Brown?

[patlowe]

Was that not Simon Brown?

:agree: Serves me right for not reading further up the thread!

[Frogga]

Did he not kick it off a aberdeen player and the ball went in the net ?

Yep!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjE5xUqOrzU

What was he thinking...!

[stubru59]

Yep!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjE5xUqOrzU

What was he thinking...!


That's just it ..... he wasn't thinking.

[Wilson]

Makalamby used to get a defender to kick it out for him.

Should have got one to keep goal for him.

[Aldo]

Was it no Brown that produced a wonder save at Castle Greyskull . finger tipping the ball over the bar in one of our 3-0 victories. Still an awful keeper tho . GGTTH

Simon Brown....

[Andy74]

Yeah, but there's loads of good keepers out there!

Isn't there?

[Yuillsy]

Yes it was Brown - several home games at ER he kicked straight out into the East Stand area.

We have had some horrendous keepers over the years.

I thought it was Graeme Smith that was terrible at goal kicks?
As you say though it just shows you how many bad keepers we've had over the years!!

[Michael]

I thought it was Graeme Smith that was terrible at goal kicks?
As you say though it just shows you how many bad keepers we've had over the years!!

Graeme Smith. Forgot about him. I think he was worse than Zibbi.

[hibees 7062]

Simon Brown....

So it was Brown then :greengrin

[Aldo]

So it was Brown then :greengrin

YA YA!! But no Mark! :-)

[bingo70]

Yeah, but there's loads of good keepers out there!

Isn't there?

yes there is.

Hopefully now we appear to have a better scouting system we'll be better placed to find them, Like Dundee utd seem to continually do.

[Northern Hibby]

Yep his kicking was similar to my driving at golf. Fore. :greengrin

"Keep your head down Mick, there's 3 more coming"

[GreenArmyyy!]

Graeme Smith. Forgot about him. I think he was worse than Zibbi.

Settle 😂 Zibbi was a different species of human when it came to goalkeeping!

[keep the faith]

I thought it was Graeme Smith that was terrible at goal kicks?
As you say though it just shows you how many bad keepers we've had over the years!!

Smith was part of yogis "goalkeeper school"

[Pretty Boy]

Graeme Smith. Forgot about him. I think he was worse than Zibbi.

I still maintain something dodgy was going on in that 6-6 game at Motherwell. The mistakes he made were ridiculous and the penalty he gave away was just jaw dropping (although he did save the penalty which ruins my theory somewhat).

He did take a head knock just before he started throwing them in so perhaps he had a concussion that wasn't spotted at the time as there's no way a pro goalkeeper could be that bad without an injury or an ulterior motive.

[My_Wife_Camille]

I still maintain something dodgy was going on in that 6-6 game at Motherwell. The mistakes he made were ridiculous and the penalty he gave away was just jaw dropping (although he did save the penalty which ruins my theory somewhat).

He did take a head knock just before he started throwing them in so perhaps he had a concussion that wasn't spotted at the time as there's no way a pro goalkeeper could be that bad without an injury or an ulterior motive.
I said the same at the time and got laughed at. The guy was definitely at it. Nothing can convince me otherwise.

[KWJ]

I said the same at the time and got laughed at. The guy was definitely at it. Nothing can convince me otherwise.

Yet he saved a pen! Mental game.

[erin go bragh]

Simon Brown....

Right . What Brown was it that gave the mutants a goal of a start at the PBS . We beat them 2-1 .

GGGTTH

[Aldo]

Right . What Brown was it that gave the mutants a goal of a start at the PBS . We beat them 2-1 . GGGTTH


Yip it was indeed. Miller scored first for them then GOC and Shiels replied into the roseburn end.

:-)

[davidw]

I still maintain something dodgy was going on in that 6-6 game at Motherwell. The mistakes he made were ridiculous and the penalty he gave away was just jaw dropping (although he did save the penalty which ruins my theory somewhat).

He did take a head knock just before he started throwing them in so perhaps he had a concussion that wasn't spotted at the time as there's no way a pro goalkeeper could be that bad without an injury or an ulterior motive.

As someone said behind me that night (after watching Smith dropping or missing everything that came in from the wings), the Motherwell player should have crossed the penalty in...

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Some people at work saying we are trying to sign mcgoosh on a permanent deal

[lochhibs]

anyone heard any news about fontaine?

[bill the hibby]

anyone heard any news about fontaine?

First ever post so please be nice...next door neighbour is close friends with Fontaine and told me that Liam will be returning from London to sign a new contract.

[BSEJVT]

First ever post so please be nice...next door neighbour is close friends with Fontaine and told me that Liam will be returning from London to sign a new contract.

Welcome aboard Bill

You can look forward to endless wasted days during open transfer windows anxiously scanning any thread that looks as though it might have player related news time and time again

Great news re Fontaine!

[bill the hibby]

Welcome aboard Bill

You can look forward to endless wasted days during open transfer windows anxiously scanning any thread that looks as though it might have player related news time and time again

Great news re Fontaine!

I've already been doing that for a good few years, just thought it was time to display my Fontaine of knowledge. Ha.

[jacomo]

First ever post so please be nice...next door neighbour is close friends with Fontaine and told me that Liam will be returning from London to sign a new contract.

So long as all your posts are as good as this one you'll be alright!

Welcome.

[AlbertK86]

I've already been doing that for a good few years, just thought it was time to display my Fontaine of knowledge. Ha.

Guid son liking the play on words and hoping it comes true

Welcome

[bill the hibby]

So long as all your posts are as good as this one you'll be alright!

Welcome.

I won't make any promises but I shall try my best...thank my good sir.

[bill the hibby]

Guid son liking the play on words and hoping it comes true

Welcome

It would be welcome news by many me thinks. Thanks man.

[Bronson]

yes there is.

Hopefully now we appear to have a better scouting system we'll be better placed to find them, Like Dundee utd seem to continually do.

Really? I think Cerzniak is an awful keeper, Zibi-esque.

[DAVE1875]

Pure pub talk, but we're apparently interested in Wes Foderingham

[Sean1875]

anyone else remember Grzegorz 'The Monk' Szamotulski?! :greengrin

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Pure pub talk, but we're apparently interested in Wes Foderingham

Heard this one before

Very good keeper but there is some interest in him from the English championship

Can't see it sadly

[andrew70]

Really? I think Cerzniak is an awful keeper, Zibi-esque.

Correct, decent shot stopper at times but not much else. The press seem to ignore his errors though as opposed to when our goalies make them or when Langfield makes them for example.

[Caversham Green]

Heard this one before

Very good keeper but there is some interest in him from the English championship

Can't see it sadly

Reading were reportedly close to signing him to replace Federici, but they seem to have lost interest.

[mvteng]

according to todays Scotsman :

Lukasz Zaluska has left Celtic after six years as reserve keeper at the club

I'd take him

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Suposedly interested in eremenko....came from a rumour site so could be *****

[Salt N Sauzee]

First ever post so please be nice...next door neighbour is close friends with Fontaine and told me that Liam will be returning from London to sign a new contract.

He just tweeted saying "Roll on next week ....."

Looks like you could be right :greengrin

[bill the hibby]

He just tweeted saying "Roll on next week ....."

Looks like you could be right :greengrin

I suppose it wouldn't do my reputation as newbie any harm if the information I've received is correct.

[Coults1875]

according to todays Scotsman :

Lukasz Zaluska has left Celtic after six years as reserve keeper at the club

I'd take him


I'd take him too. Guy would do us a good turn.

[GreenArmyyy!]

anyone else remember Grzegorz 'The Monk' Szamotulski?! :greengrin

Now there was a goalkeeper! Another one who couldn't kick a ball though.

[J-C]

Suposedly interested in eremenko....came from a rumour site so could be *****


Class player but never fit, always over weight, do we need luxury player like that, need a DM 1st.

[Salt N Sauzee]

I suppose it wouldn't do my reputation as newbie any harm if the information I've received is correct.


Impressive Debut :thumbsup:

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

anyone else remember Grzegorz 'The Monk' Szamotulski?! :greengrin

aye he was class! shame we only had him for a few months. sure we have the most clean sheets for ages when he was with us

[jacomo]

I still maintain something dodgy was going on in that 6-6 game at Motherwell. The mistakes he made were ridiculous and the penalty he gave away was just jaw dropping (although he did save the penalty which ruins my theory somewhat).

He did take a head knock just before he started throwing them in so perhaps he had a concussion that wasn't spotted at the time as there's no way a pro goalkeeper could be that bad without an injury or an ulterior motive.

I can't remember the details, but I'm sure there was a match fixing case a few years ago where the keeper was in on it but accidentally saved a penalty during the match!

[My_Wife_Camille]

Class player but never fit, always over weight, do we need luxury player like that, need a DM 1st.

Strange post. Why does it matter what order we sign players in?

[Pray4Marc]

Strong rumours Fontaine has signed and will be announced today.

[My_Wife_Camille]

Strong rumours Fontaine has signed and will be announced today.
And Claros

[God Petrie]

He posted a picture of his new green and white boots on twitter

[S4uzee]

And Claros

Hmm where about?

[DAVE1875]

Heard this one before

Very good keeper but there is some interest in him from the English championship

Can't see it sadly

Agreed, he'd be taking quite the wage cut I imagine from what he was used to at Swindon

[Golden Bear]

Hmm where about?

Just dinnae go there.

It's an "in" joke apparently.

:rolleyes:

[Pray4Marc]

And Claros

Thursdays couldn't provide such pleasures. :wink:

[Billychaotic182]

If you look at Fontaines Twitter all of his favourites are people saying they hope he signs. Strange thing to like and give people false hope if he's not signing so I expect him to sign based on this. That and his new green and white boots

[My_Wife_Camille]

Just dinnae go there.

It's an "in" joke apparently.

:rolleyes:

What are you?