Official Site: AWAY PLAY-OFF TICKET ARRANGEMENTS

[B.H.F.C]

Something for us to look at with respect to including next year's STs. The bands have only been set for these specified games, this doesn't mean the bands will remain at these levels going forward. It was felt that given the move from 180+ to 300+ only resulted in 200 more people being included it would still capture people who have a ST this year (but have yet to renew), been to all the away games and cup games (since the point system started). However, I appreciate the point about this also capturing next year's ST holders (who aren't an STH this year) but had also been to all the away and cup games - so food for thought there.

Fwiw Amit, I think 180 points is the right level. But not when you're including next years points. Without them I think you could have a maximum of 185 and setting the freshold at 180 would open it up to those who have attended home and away. It would have made the loyalty scheme worthwhile. As it stands it's pointless. It doesn't properly reward loyalty, unless you think otherwise?

[SteveHFC]

Okay but take a Scottish cup final. Previously just season ticket holders then public free for all.

This way people get a way to get into a tier or tiers to be next in line.

This has always been my understanding of what they were trying to do.


I’m all for a points scheme that rewards those who go to most games first and I appreciate this was started midway through a season so ST holders need looked after too.
However it should have been made clear at the start that no matter the total amount of points ST holders collected this season they wouldn’t get any priority over ST holders with less points.

[liamh2202]

I may be in the minority here but I think 180 is not right for another reason. It could actually mean St holders who maybe can't go to away games only have 150 therefore won't be able to get a ticket.

[BoomtownHibees]

A better example would be a non season ticket holder who goes to an away European game.

It would have counted for nowt in the past. They would now gets points.

That's the point of the scheme. Seems reasonable to me, not for creating groups above priority you should naturally get for committing to a season ticket.

So just launch a walk-ups loyalty scheme then rather than including season ticket holders.

Along with this, the farce of adding next year's points is what has caused more grief

[BoomtownHibees]

I may be in the minority here but I think 180 is not right for another reason. It could actually mean St holders who maybe can't go to away games only have 150 therefore won't be able to get a ticket.

So you would make it even lower??

[lyonhibs]

This debacle just goes to prove what a ridiculous decision it was to introduce a loyalty scheme mid-season, especially when it appears they're making up as they go along.

Agree entirely. It's the right thing to implement, done at the wrong time and as a result has been a bit rushed.

My understanding of the logic of a loyalty system would indeed be to create layers of priority beneath a ST, rather than levels above it, for those relatively rare games where our ticket allocation is way higher than our number of ST holders but the number of extra "glory hunters" is more than the tickets left after a priority period for ST holders to buy.

You'd need to be careful how the LP structure that segments "the masses" was structured though. Is someone who pays £75 up-front to the club for a KfK ST because they can't - in general - attend themselves more important to someone who is a walk-up but spends the same amount on attending 3 or 4 home games a season?

Either way, no Loyalty Points for ST holders.

Or, for games where are ticket allocation is way less than our ST numbers and demand way higher, then add value to a ST purchase (money in the bank up front for the club to plan transfers etc) by making the number of LP awarded for a ST higher than the max you could get as a dedicated home + away walk up - and indeed half season tickets, KfK season tickets etc etc - (so 38x5 points = 190 points, so make a ST = 200 LP) and then to incentivise away attendance amongst ST holders, award the standard 5 points per game to ST holders for away games.

Then, for super in-demand away games - depending on when they fall in the season - calculate bands of priority (i.e. 240+ points, then 220-240 points, then 205-220 points) amongst ST holders with a limited period for each band to buy before then going to "home" ST holders (200 points only) and then downwards through dedicated walk-ups/other "levels" that have been awarded LP.

Sorted :agree:

[liamh2202]

No I would have 2 days for season ticket holders before opening up to a certain number of loyalty points ( maybe even Inc next year's STs) then a general sale

[Andy74]

So just launch a walk-ups loyalty scheme then rather than including season ticket holders.

Along with this, the farce of adding next year's points is what has caused more grief

Yep, agree.

[liamh2202]

So you would make it even lower??
No I would have 2 days for season ticket holders before opening up to a certain number of loyalty points ( maybe even Inc next year's STs) then a general sale

[liamh2202]

Yep, agree.

I agree too STs first.. Then walk up loyalty scheme

[Amit]

Fwiw Amit, I think 180 points is the right level. But not when you're including next years points. Without them I think you could have a maximum of 185 and setting the freshold at 180 would open it up to those who have attended home and away. It would have made the loyalty scheme worthwhile. As it stands it's pointless. It doesn't properly reward loyalty, unless you think otherwise?

I take your point and completely understand where you are coming from.

Thank you for the feedback (and to everyone else too).

Let's see who we get after the game on Sunday [emoji6]

[BoomtownHibees]

Then, for super in-demand away games - depending on when they fall in the season - calculate bands of priority (i.e. 240+ points, then 220-240 points, then 205-220 points) amongst ST holders with a limited period for each band to buy before then going to "home" ST holders (200 points only) and then downwards through dedicated walk-ups/other "levels" that have been awarded LP.

Sorted :agree:

Exactly what should happen for this game

[BoomtownHibees]

I take your point and completely understand where you are coming from.

Thank you for the feedback (and to everyone else too).

Let's see who we get after the game on Sunday [emoji6]

In other words, it's done, the decision has been made. No changes will be made regardless of the feedback we get from our most loyal supporters.

Thanks for answering my question by the way Amit

[Brooster]

What a shambles, you couldnt create a more half baked loyalty scheme if you tried. We may never know but I would like to know who is responsible for this complete negligence of the most loyal of fans. And no chance will Hibs reduce Sevcos allocation should they beat QoS.

[Amit]

In other words, it's done, the decision has been made. No changes will be made regardless of the feedback we get from our most loyal supporters.

Thanks for answering my question by the way Amit

I'll feed the info back and see what can be done.

[B.H.F.C]

What a shambles, you couldnt create a more half baked loyalty scheme if you tried. We may never know but I would like to know who is responsible for this complete negligence of the most loyal of fans. And no chance will Hibs reduce Sevcos allocation should they beat QoS.

This sums it up for me. It's unbelievable that someone with 155 loyalty points less than others can be in the same priority group.

They better not blame it on being a new system blah blah blah. The system just counts the points. It's a person/people who've made the decision to lump the most loyal people in with a good few thousand others.

[BoomtownHibees]

I'll feed the info back and see what can be done.

Appreciate it

[liamh2202]

Exactly what should happen for this game

I disagree. All STs should be entitled from day one regardless of loyalty points.

[CB_NO3]

Ill be dissapointed in Hibs if they give the Huns 4k. When 50% of the gate money goes to the levy fund, there has never been a better time to tell them to beat it. You give us 1/50th of your ground, we do the same. Simple as that. Lets see if Hibs have the bottle to fulfil this 'sporting ambition' they go on about.

[SteveHFC]

What a shambles, you couldnt create a more half baked loyalty scheme if you tried. We may never know but I would like to know who is responsible for this complete negligence of the most loyal of fans. And no chance will Hibs reduce Sevcos allocation should they beat QoS.


Well said, most folk could see this situation coming weeks ago, all the ones who made the effort to travel to Dumbarton in midweek wasted their time and money as it’s counted for nothing.

[kaimendhibs]

Well said, most folk could see this situation coming weeks ago, all the ones who made the effort to travel to Dumbarton in midweek wasted their time and money as it’s counted for nothing.

Apart from seeing Hibs win

[B.H.F.C]

I disagree. All STs should be entitled from day one regardless of loyalty points.

Why?

[lyonhibs]

This sums it up for me. It's unbelievable that someone with 155 loyalty points less than others can be in the same priority group.

They better not blame it on being a new system blah blah blah. The system just counts the points. It's a person/people who've made the decision to lump the most loyal people in with a good few thousand others.

In this instance, the number of people with 155 more LP than others and are within the same group is 200. 200.

If every one of the 4500 people in the 180+ group are able to go to the game, and if the game is at Ibrox, then everyone has a just less than 1 in 5 chance of getting a ticket, all other things being equal.


If they'd kept it to the 4300 people at 300+ LP, your chances of getting a ticket would have increased by 4.4% on this occasion. That's really not much.

As Amit says elsewhere, these priority LP "bands" and structure of the whole scheme are not set in stone, and indeed I think should be reviewed thoroughly in the summer and properly implemented for next season.

[BoomtownHibees]

I disagree. All STs should be entitled from day one regardless of loyalty points.

Not really a "loyalty" scheme then if you don't reward the most loyal fans (home & away)

[Andy74]

Credit to Hibs for finding something novel for everyone to fall out about.

Really though, this is about the one circumstance that there could be any sort of issue. Largely supply isn't a problem for the main priority group.

Team with about 8,000 people turning up in a 20,000 stadium arguing about points and priorities. Brilliant.

[Amit]

This sums it up for me. It's unbelievable that someone with 155 loyalty points less than others can be in the same priority group.

They better not blame it on being a new system blah blah blah. The system just counts the points. It's a person/people who've made the decision to lump the most loyal people in with a good few thousand others.

Alright,

As I said the difference was c.200 people when setting the limit at 180+ or 300+ but I do understand the point about next year's ST points being included in this year's allocation.

Will look into it.

[emoji106]

[Iggy Pope]

I'll feed the info back and see what can be done.

Make sure and feed mine back too, as you never answered. (I appreciate you are getting bombarded).

I asked for a ballot.
I think I was first to venture it.
No point in having 150 points too many is there? That equates to "I'll stick it out this year and see what happens".
Ballot for the 300+ please. Those are the ones that have pledged for next season already and I would take my chances with that. If that's not loyalty, I believe a number of loyalists (pardon me for that), might be about to suggest you stuff it.

[kaimendhibs]

Why?

Season ticket holders invest in the team from the start of the season. They can't get money back if team is crap or results going wrong. Walk ups can stop going and therefore paying at any time so I agree, season ticket holders should get priority.

[liamh2202]

Why?

Because that has always been a selling point of a st. People may Ashwell be walk ups??

[Andy74]

Not really a "loyalty" scheme then if you don't reward the most loyal fans (home & away)

That's just your interpretation of the scheme though.

[hibbysam]

Amit can you please advise hibs' stance on how many rangers fans will be entitled to tickets after today's announcements that they are giving us bare minimum? Baring in mind the general consensus on here and the bounce, I'm sure there will have been discussions at board level... Are the fans going to be listened to? After Rangers taking the Noel hunt with us at Ibrox in February when they said police wouldn't allow over 1000 away fans due to safety concerns yet they recently allowed 2000 hearts fans into an away end, are we going to stand up for ourselves and take the very minimal hit on money or are we going to bend over and take the spanking from them?

[lyonhibs]

I disagree. All STs should be entitled from day one regardless of loyalty points.

:confused:

So someone who pays £400 at the beginning of the season, attends (or not, who knows) all home games should be given the same chance to buy a ticket for this kind of game (and we should keep in mind it's likely that this genre of game will be exceedingly rare) than someone who has paid the same £400, but then another - let's say - £200 on following the team away from home as well??

Both "types" should be given priority over walk-ups, but if you're saying there should be no distinguishing between ST holders, then that's clearly bonkers.

[BoomtownHibees]

In this instance, the number of people with 155 more LP than others and are within the same group is 200. 200.

If every one of the 4500 people in the 180+ group are able to go to the game, and if the game is at Ibrox, then everyone has a just less than 1 in 5 chance of getting a ticket, all other things being equal.


If they'd kept it to the 4300 people at 300+ LP, your chances of getting a ticket would have increased by 4.4% on this occasion. That's really not much.

As Amit says elsewhere, these priority LP "bands" and structure of the whole scheme are not set in stone, and indeed I think should be reviews thoroughly in the summer and properly implemented for next season.

That 200 is the difference between 180 and 300 points. Wonder how many are above that figure, say above 320

[Amit]

Make sure and feed mine back too, as you never answered. (I appreciate you are getting bombarded).

I asked for a ballot.
I think I was first to venture it.
No point in having 150 points too many is there? That equates to "I'll stick it out this year and see what happens".
Ballot for the 300+ please. Those are the ones that have pledged for next season already and I would take my chances with that. If that's not loyalty, I believe a number of loyalists (pardon me for that), might be about to suggest you stuff it.

Apologies. Missed your post!

Good idea. Will pass the ballot suggestion.

Thanks [emoji106]

[B.H.F.C]

In this instance, the number of people with 155 more LP than others and are within the same group is 200. 200.

If every one of the 4500 people in the 180+ group are able to go to the game, and if the game is at Ibrox, then everyone has a just less than 1 in 5 chance of getting a ticket, all other things being equal.


If they'd kept it to the 4300 people at 300+ LP, your chances of getting a ticket would have increased by 4.4% on this occasion. That's really not much.

As Amit says elsewhere, these priority LP "bands" and structure of the whole scheme are not set in stone, and indeed I think should be reviews thoroughly in the summer and properly implemented for next season.

It's not 200. That was the difference between 180 and 300 points. Amit couldn't confirm what the difference was between those on 180 and those on say 320+. There is a lot more than 200 of a difference in terms of people with 180 and those at the top of the points scale.

[BoomtownHibees]

That's just your interpretation of the scheme though.

It's not just "my interpretation". It's how loyalty schemes at numerous other clubs work

[B.H.F.C]

Because that has always been a selling point of a st. People may Ashwell be walk ups??

It then means that people who travel all over the country aren't getting any additional reward for their efforts though. More games attended equals more points equals better priority grouping.

[lyonhibs]

It's not 200. That was the difference between 180 and 300 points. Amit couldn't confirm what the difference was between those on 180 and those on say 320+. There is a lot more than 200 of a difference in terms of people with 180 and those at the top of the points scale.

Apologies. I meant the difference between the band that Hibs have set and the one most often quoted by unhappy fans thus far on this thread is 200.

[Hibeesforever]

More... (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5429)

How sad for football that Hibernian fans get 1k tickets.
Pro rata is now the only way to respond.Truly shocking. SPFL are a bunch cowards for not challenging Rangers on this, if true..

[BoomtownHibees]

I disagree. All STs should be entitled from day one regardless of loyalty points.

So a supporter who has a season ticket and been to every away game this season gets the same priority as someone who has decided that they can be arsed going along to their first away game of the season??

[scoopyboy]

In this instance, the number of people with 155 more LP than others and are within the same group is 200. 200.

If every one of the 4500 people in the 180+ group are able to go to the game, and if the game is at Ibrox, then everyone has a just less than 1 in 5 chance of getting a ticket, all other things being equal.


If they'd kept it to the 4300 people at 300+ LP, your chances of getting a ticket would have increased by 4.4% on this occasion. That's really not much.

As Amit says elsewhere, these priority LP "bands" and structure of the whole scheme are not set in stone, and indeed I think should be reviews thoroughly in the summer and properly implemented for next season.

I think there should be a review by the Hibs board first thing tomorrow morning never mind the summer.

[craigmounthibby]

Make sure and feed mine back too, as you never answered. (I appreciate you are getting bombarded).

I asked for a ballot.
I think I was first to venture it.
No point in having 150 points too many is there? That equates to "I'll stick it out this year and see what happens".
Ballot for the 300+ please. Those are the ones that have pledged for next season already and I would take my chances with that. If that's not loyalty, I believe a number of loyalists (pardon me for that), might be about to suggest you stuff it.
This is a good idea - the problem is time available. How would the club administer/organise it in the 2 days available? Not saying it can't/shouldn't be the answer, but don't see how it can work on this occasion.

And one key thing that appears to have only been spotted by some - a season ticket holder is not able to apply for a ticket for this game, unless they have either been to enough away games this season and/or renewed for next year. If you have a season, for just this year, that's 150 pts -you're 30 short. That's a shambles.

[liamh2202]

It then means that people who travel all over the country aren't getting any additional reward for their efforts though. More games attended equals more points equals better priority grouping.

Correct but I still think all STs should be in the first batch. BTW I get to lots of away games so this opinion isn't for personal gain lol

[JimBHibees]

Surely the easiest way around the 180 points issue would be to take next seasons ST points off everyones total. That way no one would have 300+ points. If you've bought a ST for next season, that's for next season. Why should a guy who's been to every game this season miss out to a guy who has renewed for next year but hasn't been to an away game all year.

Not sure I get this argument. Surely someone buying a season for next season should be ahead of someone who hasn't irrespective of away games attended. The season ticket money goes to Hibs the away money doesn't.

[B.H.F.C]

I think there should be a review by the Hibs board first thing tomorrow morning never mind the summer.

I totally agree. There won't be though.

The scheme is a disaster.

[Andy74]

:confused:

So someone who pays £400 at the beginning of the season, attends (or not, who knows) all home games should be given the same chance to buy a ticket for this kind of game (and we should keep in mind it's likely that this genre of game will be exceedingly rare) than someone who has paid the same £400, but then another - let's say - £200 on following the team away from home as well??

Both "types" should be given priority over walk-ups, but if you're saying there should be no distinguishing between ST holders, then that's clearly bonkers.

Dangerous ground I think.

Reality is that Hibs get money from the home games only and those that pay that each year in ST should be top priority.

I go to plenty away games but I don't think this should count above others in the ST category.

Do we add direct shares, HSL, merchandise, pies? Maybe you do.

I think anything that would make you question a ST purchase is dangerous for the limited times creating some über group would be worth it.

[kaimendhibs]

It then means that people who travel all over the country aren't getting any additional reward for their efforts though. More games attended equals more points equals better priority grouping.

Not being funny pal, I travel the country to watch Hibs, not gain loyalty points!

[Iggy Pope]

Credit to Hibs for finding something novel for everyone to fall out about.

Really though, this is about the one circumstance that there could be any sort of issue. Largely supply isn't a problem for the main priority group.

Team with about 8,000 people turning up in a 20,000 stadium arguing about points and priorities. Brilliant.

So you keep saying. Recently the away stands at Kirkcaldy, Falkirk, Dumbarton and Livingston have been pretty full, helping us get where we are. You keep banging on about that 8,000 figure though, like you have all night. Supply for Ibrox, if it is them, is a problem for the "main priority group". Unless the main priority group happens to be Andy74 of course.

[Andy74]

I totally agree. There won't be though.

The scheme is a disaster.

Is that maybe a touch dramatic?

[liamh2202]

Not being funny pal, I travel the country to watch Hibs, not gain loyalty points!

My feelings exactly coupled with the fact the club gets no financial gain

[B.H.F.C]

Not being funny pal, I travel the country to watch Hibs, not gain loyalty points!

Aye so do I. But if the scheme doesn't work correctly and I can't get a ticket I won't be able to travel and watch them will I.

[Andy74]

So you keep saying. Recently the away stands at Kirkcaldy, Falkirk, Dumbarton and Livingston have been pretty full, helping us get where we are. You keep banging on about that 8,000 figure though, like you have all night. Supply for Ibrox, if it is them, is a problem for the "main priority group". Unless the main priority group happens to be Andy74 of course.

I've said largely not an issue. Ibrox this time will be a problem although historically not a big seller either.

[My_Wife_Camille]

:confused:

So someone who pays £400 at the beginning of the season, attends (or not, who knows) all home games should be given the same chance to buy a ticket for this kind of game (and we should keep in mind it's likely that this genre of game will be exceedingly rare) than someone who has paid the same £400, but then another - let's say - £200 on following the team away from home as well??

Both "types" should be given priority over walk-ups, but if you're saying there should be no distinguishing between ST holders, then that's clearly bonkers.
Correct, if you have a season ticket and attend more away games over the course of the season then you should be entitled to first pick when the away games become prioritised. Don't understand how anyone can object to this..

[B.H.F.C]

Is that maybe a touch dramatic?

No. There is potential for people with substantially less points than others to get tickets, while those with the higher number of points can't get one.

Strange loyalty scheme that.

[kaimendhibs]

Aye so do I. But if the scheme doesn't work correctly and I can't get a ticket I won't be able to travel and watch them will I.

The only game I can remember not getting a ticket was Falkirk away in cup 2005. Went in away end. Been at ibrox 3 times this season, all of a sudden everyone wants to go!

[Iggy Pope]

This is a good idea - the problem is time available. How would the club administer/organise it in the 2 days available? Not saying it can't/shouldn't be the answer, but don't see how it can work on this occasion.

And one key thing that appears to have only been spotted by some - a season ticket holder is not able to apply for a ticket for this game, unless they have either been to enough away games this season and/or renewed for next year. If you have a season, for just this year, that's 150 pts -you're 30 short. That's a shambles.

The club has the same amount of time to organise a ballot as it does any other sale. It's not like they let anyone know personally. Social media is how they hide the info! They're selling nowt until Monday.

300+ points are the people that are toeing the line for whatever next year brings. Let's ballot them and whatever is left goes to the 180+.
Sounds easy to me and I'm not Amit. Or Frank Dougan (thank ****).

[Iggy Pope]

I've said largely not an issue. Ibrox this time will be a problem although historically not a big seller either.

Wrong.

[B.H.F.C]

The only game I can remember not getting a ticket was Falkirk away in cup 2005. Went in away end. Been at ibrox 3 times this season, all of a sudden everyone wants to go!

Completely different game to the previous 3 so it's understandable. That's why I feel strongly that the club should be using the system in place to look after people better.

I was delighted when they brought the scheme in. First test of it. Massive fail IMO.

[lyonhibs]

Dangerous ground I think.

Reality is that Hibs get money from the home games only and those that pay that each year in ST should be top priority.

I go to plenty away games but I don't think this should count above others in the ST category.

Do we add direct shares, HSL, merchandise, pies? Maybe you do.

I think anything that would make you question a ST purchase is dangerous for the limited times creating some über group would be worth it.

Are we reducing everything down to the bottom line though? Sounds positively Petrie-ish :greengrin.

I'm not suggesting that any other financial contribution (that can be tracked at least) to the club (HSL, KfK) should be rated above a ST purchase (or in fact used to "categorise" ST holders) but I think, when necessary, the commitment of regular away fans and I imagine "feel good" factor that packed away ends bring to the team on the pitch, although they aren't direct revenue streams to Hibs, should be taken into account.

[silverhibee]

Amit can you please advise hibs' stance on how many rangers fans will be entitled to tickets after today's announcements that they are giving us bare minimum? Baring in mind the general consensus on here and the bounce, I'm sure there will have been discussions at board level... Are the fans going to be listened to? After Rangers taking the Noel hunt with us at Ibrox in February when they said police wouldn't allow over 1000 away fans due to safety concerns yet they recently allowed 2000 hearts fans into an away end, are we going to stand up for ourselves and take the very minimal hit on money or are we going to bend over and take the spanking from them?

Hopefully this gets answered. :aok:

[Andy74]

No. There is potential for people with substantially less points than others to get tickets, while those with the higher number of points can't get one.

Strange loyalty scheme that.

I think there will be less issue than many think. Play off or not the number itself will limit the demand. We might go in bigger numbers if we got a large allocation but not many are that keen on Ibrox when part of a small band.

Is it that different from the usual arrangements which would have been in place anyway ie all Season tickets.

I honestly don't recall the clamour for a new super entitlement group to be set up so don't understand the reaction to there not being one now.

[Stuarty27]

Hibs stance was clear....

If tickets sales were going well by tomorrow then they would consider segregation in the south. However judging by online sales we are no where near selling out.

If people instead of moaning on here all the times got off there high horse and just buy tickets then we would be in a much better position to tell rangers to do one.

[Iggy Pope]

Hibs stances was clear....

If tickets sales were going well by tomorrow then they would consider segregation in the south. However judging by online sales we are no where near selling out.

If people instead of moaning on here all the times got off there high horse and just buy tickets then we would be in a much better position so tell rangers to do one.

How many tickets do the people on here need to buy all the times?

[lyonhibs]

Where was Hibs' stance on this confirmed ?


Hibs stances was clear....

If tickets sales were going well by tomorrow then they would consider segregation in the south. However judging by online sales we are no where near selling out.

If people instead of moaning on here all the times got off there high horse and just buy tickets then we would be in a much better position so tell rangers to do one.

[Amit]

Hopefully this gets answered. :aok:

No decision has been made yet Silverhibee. However, the exec team at the club are fully aware of the supporters views on this.


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[Glory Lurker]

Will we chill out any if Queens win?

[lyonhibs]

will we chill out any if queens win?

noooooo!!! :-p

[Billy Whizz]

Had a few texts tonight from Hibs supporters tonight, who want to borrow client ref no from my family, one or two of them can't go next week. Told them to bolt. Would be really unhappy if some of these guys got in at the expense of the fans that go most week's.
Anyone else had the same approach

[Pete]

Hibs stance was clear....

If tickets sales were going well by tomorrow then they would consider segregation in the south. However judging by online sales we are no where near selling out.

If people instead of moaning on here all the times got off there high horse and just buy tickets then we would be in a much better position to tell rangers to do one.

If that is their stance that's fine by me. The 400-odd huns can rattle about in the south by themselves.

And we're in a perfectly good position to tell the huns to do one anyway...but I wouldn't phrase it like that. I'd call it being fair.

[DH1875]

Not sure I get this argument. Surely someone buying a season for next season should be ahead of someone who hasn't irrespective of away games attended. The season ticket money goes to Hibs the away money doesn't.

But you will be rewarded NEXT season for having a ST. If we make a cup final you'll get a ticket and you'll get first choice for all the bigger games.
I agree with the 180 points and think people should lay off Amit and the club. Anyone with over 200 points let alone 300 only has them cause they renewed for next season. Well sorry, the playoffs are this season and its only fair that the guys who have been home and away all year get a chance at a ticket. Like I said, hopefully we make a cup final next year and everyone who's renewed gets rewarded with their ticket.

[Andy74]

I haven't ever heard, amongst all the things we've argued about over the years, of any suggestion that there should be an additional layer of priority above season ticket holders which you gain by going to away games. Not once. Didn't see it discussed when this was launched either.

Now it's a disgrace we don't have one?

[Kaff]

This is a good idea - the problem is time available. How would the club administer/organise it in the 2 days available? Not saying it can't/shouldn't be the answer, but don't see how it can work on this occasion.

And one key thing that appears to have only been spotted by some - a season ticket holder is not able to apply for a ticket for this game, unless they have either been to enough away games this season and/or renewed for next year. If you have a season, for just this year, that's 150 pts -you're 30 short. That's a shambles.

Unfortunately this is the anomaly, if all season holders are equal then there is a group who are not in this situation. I'm the opposite and have managed a season ticket for next season plus my small number (relatively speaking as its as many as i could afford/make) of attendances this season means i could apply for Ibrox. I can't make it anyway but for this season i don't feel i should be ahead of someone who has paid for all the home games.
Of course if you're talking Cup final etc where its larger allocation then i should have a priority but lower down the chain this season i feel would be fair and next season i would hold that higher position.

[Carheenlea]

I think there will be less issue than many think. Play off or not the number itself will limit the demand. We might go in bigger numbers if we got a large allocation but not many are that keen on Ibrox when part of a small band.



:agree: Ibrox is not everyone`s cup of tea, and out of all those with the required points for first crack, I`d guess that maybe less than 1000 will be trying for tickets for this game should it indeed be Ibrox. Factor in the midweek date, television and a lack of desire to be part of a small support in an intimidating environment, most of those with entitlement will be opting not to take up the offer to try for tickets, as they have done in the past at Ibrox. The regular Ibrox attendees will get their tickets alright. (I hope).

[CB_NO3]

:agree: Ibrox is not everyone`s cup of tea, and out of all those with the required points for first crack, I`d guess that maybe less than 1000 will be trying for tickets for this game should it indeed be Ibrox. Factor in the midweek date, television and a lack of desire to be part of a small support in an intimidating environment, most of those with entitlement will be opting not to take up the offer to try for tickets, as they have done in the past at Ibrox. The regular Ibrox attendees will get their tickets alright. (I hope).
Lol, aye sure. We asked for more tickets for the Friday night game and got told were to go. What makes you think Hibs would struggle to sell 1000 for the biggest game of the season? This game will sell in seconds. Its a 6am start for me on Monday.

[SteveHFC]

Having read this thread again I still can’t get my head around why the points level has been set so low or why there is even a points system for ST if you get no benefit for attending extra games.

[KeithTheHibby]

We've always had an allocation of 900 for Ibrox. We've always given Rangers 3800 for Easter Road.

This, in the main, has always been enough for both sets of fans with no complaints. It's not a great argument from our end because we suddenly want more tickets and when that's refused we should cut Rangers allocation.

We will have 900 at Ibrox, they will have 3800 at Easter Road, simples.

[marinello59]

I haven't ever heard, amongst all the things we've argued about over the years, of any suggestion that there should be an additional layer of priority above season ticket holders which you gain by going to away games. Not once. Didn't see it discussed when this was launched either.

Now it's a disgrace we don't have one?

The talk always used to be about rewarding walk up fans. Now that we have the scheme it seems everybody wants to argue the case that best suits their own circumstances.
Extra loyalty points for beer bellied baldies has to be looked at. :greengrin

[BoomtownHibees]

The talk always used to be about rewarding walk up fans. Now that we have the scheme it seems everybody wants to argue the case that best suits their own circumstances.
Extra loyalty points for beer bellied baldies has to be looked at. :greengrin

All that anybody is asking is for the fans who have went to most/all games THIS season are rewarded with the first chance of tickets for this game. That's what a loyalty scheme should mean in my eyes

[Brooster]

We've always had an allocation of 900 for Ibrox. We've always given Rangers 3800 for Easter Road.

This, in the main, has always been enough for both sets of fans with no complaints. It's not a great argument from our end because we suddenly want more tickets and when that's refused we should cut Rangers allocation.

We will have 900 at Ibrox, they will have 3800 at Easter Road, simples.

Spot on Keith, we get 900 for Ibrox and they get 3800 for Easter Road, thats the way it's always been and thats the way it will be for the play off.

[flash]

All that anybody is asking is for the fans who have went to most/all games THIS season are rewarded with the first chance of tickets for this game. That's what a loyalty scheme should mean in my eyes

The problem with that is everyone bought their season ticket this season with priority for tickets as one of the benefits. You cant change that now although i do agree that things could be tweaked from the start of next season to make sure those who have a season book and attend away games get first dibs.

[marinello59]

All that anybody is asking is for the fans who have went to most/all games THIS season are rewarded with the first chance of tickets for this game. That's what a loyalty scheme should mean in my eyes

They will already have had a turn at going to Ibrox or QOTS though, surely it would be fairer to give the rest of us a chance to go?

[BoomtownHibees]

They will already have had a turn at going to Ibrox or QOTS though, surely it would be fairer to give the rest of us a chance to go?

Good try

[BoomtownHibees]

The problem with that is everyone bought their season ticket this season with priority for tickets as one of the benefits. You cant change that now although i do agree that things could be tweaked from the start of next season to make sure those who have a season book and attend away games get first dibs.

I get that but it makes it a strange decision to introduce the "loyalty" scheme half-way through this season if it wasn't actually going to be used as it should.

And the idea of adding NEXT seasons points makes it even more baffling.

[flash]

I get that but it makes it a strange decision to introduce the "loyalty" scheme half-way through this season if it wasn't actually going to be used as it should.

And the idea of adding NEXT seasons points makes it even more baffling.
I totally agree. It should have been started next season.

[marinello59]

Good try

Thanks. :greengrin
The timescale for selling tickets for this game plus the need to maintain the priority ST holders were promised when buying this year means that additional banding groups for this match was going to be difficult. I expect that to be different next season.

[blackpoolhibs]

The problem with that is everyone bought their season ticket this season with priority for tickets as one of the benefits. You cant change that now although i do agree that things could be tweaked from the start of next season to make sure those who have a season book and attend away games get first dibs.


Thats probably the right way to go about it, but the club did say when they introduced this new system that loyalty points would be accrued by purchasing away tickets. Whether they meant it or not, this did come across as a way of ensuring you would build up your points and getting you near or as near the top when games like this arrived.

It now seems daft this system was introduced halfway through the season, all its done is cause trouble with those who thought following the team away would give them more chance of getting away tickets.

And FFS, whoever thought of throwing in NEXT seasons season ticket holders wants shooting.

Has this been put together by Neil Doncaster?

[BoomtownHibees]

Thats probably the right way to go about it, but the club did say when they introduced this new system that loyalty points would be accrued by purchasing away tickets. Whether they meant it or not, this did come across as a way of ensuring you would build up your points and getting you near or as near the top when games like this arrived.

It now seems daft this system was introduced halfway through the season, all its done is cause trouble with those who thought following the team away would give them more chance of getting away tickets.

And FFS, whoever thought of throwing in NEXT seasons season ticket holders wants shooting.

Has this been put together by Neil Doncaster?

Spot on

[flash]

Of course if Sevco gave us a reasonable allocation all this stress would be avoided.

[Billy Whizz]

Of course if Sevco gave us a reasonable allocation all this stress would be avoided.

Or even better, Queens win

[ronaldo7]

All that anybody is asking is for the fans who have went to most/all games THIS season are rewarded with the first chance of tickets for this game. That's what a loyalty scheme should mean in my eyes

:agree: I've been at a few away games this season but only before the loyalty points scheme came in. Not made many away trips towards the end of the season due to other circumstances.

Those with the most points should have been afforded the chance of tickets first imo, and to set the cut off so low is laughable.

The club should have held out to the requests to set up the system half way through the season and waited to get it right.

Good luck to all looking for tickets.:aok:

[Steve20]

We've always had an allocation of 900 for Ibrox. We've always given Rangers 3800 for Easter Road.

This, in the main, has always been enough for both sets of fans with no complaints. It's not a great argument from our end because we suddenly want more tickets and when that's refused we should cut Rangers allocation.

We will have 900 at Ibrox, they will have 3800 at Easter Road, simples.

That's the allocation in league matches. And since it's been made clear the playoffs are not league matches (season tickets not counting), then our allocation should have been increased.

[Albanian Hibs]

Do you get loyalty points for buying an extra ticket for home games? (eg. buying my husband a ticket with my client ref)

[marinello59]

Do you get loyalty points for buying an extra ticket for home games? (eg. buying my husband a ticket with my client ref)

You shouldn't as the loyalty points would be your husbands. There were a couple of posters on here saying that they did get loyalty points that way though so they might be on your account.

[S4uzee]

You shouldn't as the loyalty points would be your husbands. There were a couple of posters on here saying that they did get loyalty points that way though so they might be on your account.

Which is a joke if true

[southfieldhibby]

Lol, aye sure. We asked for more tickets for the Friday night game and got told were to go. What makes you think Hibs would struggle to sell 1000 for the biggest game of the season? This game will sell in seconds. Its a 6am start for me on Monday.

See you there mate.

[Brightside]

We'll be playing QOTS anyway. Chill out.

[SteveHFC]

See you there mate.

it will be online, on phone and at ticket office

[marinello59]

Which is a joke if true

If true it's a glitch rather than a joke surely and you would expect it to be rectified for next season.

[Ozyhibby]

You only have to look at the level of distress the lack of tickets for Ibrox is causing on here with people moaning about the loyalty system to see why it's so important that we send a clear message to Rangers that we will stick up for our fans.
900 tickets is a joke.
Giving any more than 400 to them would be a betrayal of our own fans.

[Hermit Crab]

You only have to look at the level of distress the lack of tickets for Ibrox is causing on here with people moaning about the loyalty system to see why it's so important that we send a clear message to Rangers that we will stick up for our fans.
900 tickets is a joke.
Giving any more than 400 to them would be a betrayal of our own fans.

Rubbish. We need the money and I'll gladly take it.

[Steve20]

Rubbish. We need the money and I'll gladly take it.

This is a game we shouldn't even be playing in, so I'm not sure we need the money.

[JimBHibees]

Rubbish. We need the money and I'll gladly take it.

If the amount we are talking about is 13k then I dont think we should allow them to ride roughshod over us.

[scoopyboy]

This is a game we shouldn't even be playing in, so I'm not sure we need the money.

Why should we not be playing in it?

[Billy Whizz]

You only have to look at the level of distress the lack of tickets for Ibrox is causing on here with people moaning about the loyalty system to see why it's so important that we send a clear message to Rangers that we will stick up for our fans.
900 tickets is a joke.
Giving any more than 400 to them would be a betrayal of our own fans.

We give them what they give us in my opinion

[Ozyhibby]

Rubbish. We need the money and I'll gladly take it.

It's less than £20k FFS.

[Ozyhibby]

Why should we not be playing in it?

I imagine he feels we should never have been relegated in the first place and therefore should not be involved in a promotion play off.
It's a view I have some sympathy with.

[scoopyboy]

I imagine he feels we should never have been relegated in the first place and therefore should not be involved in a promotion play off.
It's a view I have some sympathy with.

We have to move on from this, surely.

We can't change it.

[HH81]

Why should we not be playing in it?

Maybe he means it's a non budgeted match so any profit is not important when doing the right thing and showing everyone we are no pushovers?

I fully expect Hibs to give Rangers the full end though. If it is them we play.

[Billy Whizz]

Do you get loyalty points for buying an extra ticket for home games? (eg. buying my husband a ticket with my client ref)

I was given 3 extra for buying my niece a ticket for Hibs v Queens in April. Quite rightly the 3 points have now been removed

[scoopyboy]

Maybe he means it's a non budgeted match so any profit is not important when doing the right thing and showing everyone we are no pushovers?

I fully expect Hibs to give Rangers the full end though. If it is them we play.

I would bet bundles that Rangers get the full end.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

I imagine he feels we should never have been relegated in the first place and therefore should not be involved in a promotion play off.
It's a view I have some sympathy with.

I think he means it's a game over and above the normal season so it's not a game we need to be making money on to make ends meet. As long as we don't make a loss then that's sufficient. 13k to inconvenience those mutants seems a no brainer. That will be less than we've spent taking the boys to Spain for a few days. **** Rangers and everything that the vile club stand for.
I also agree with most of the views on here. The loyalty points should have been set much higher and then lowered on a tiered level to make things fairer. I know there's not much time but it could have been done. Villa are my English team and I've been following how they've allocated tickets for the FA cup final. Today sees them move down to tier 8 to sell the final 1,000. There can be no complaints from any fans the way it's been done. A ballot would also have been fairer for us. If your name comes out and you don't require a ticket then it simply moves on to the next person. I'm on 300+ points but I'm in a meeting at work 9-10.30 on Monday morning so basically have no chance. Hardly fair after supporting the team all season, despite relegation.

[Albanian Hibs]

You shouldn't as the loyalty points would be your husbands. There were a couple of posters on here saying that they did get loyalty points that way though so they might be on your account.

Yeah as expected I haven't had any points added after purchasing last night.

[Andy74]

I would bet bundles that Rangers get the full end.

The only way that won't happen is if we sell enough today to the extent that we need to eat into the away end allocation.

There's a lot of emotional arguments to the fact that they have limited us so we should do the same - I do have some sympathy but it is also easier for them to do that because firstly its the extent of what we get at normal times and we rarely need more and secondly, they should be able to sell them to their own fans.

Hibs do need to take into account that although this isn't a league game, a move by us now to cut the allocation could mean that Rangers will refuse allocations in future. As I've said a few times on this thread we only had 10,000 of our own fans at the last Rangers game, which was a pretty key game at the time, and so I wouldn't want to see Hibs v Rangers games played in front of 10,000 to 11,000 in future.

Lastly, the board may just have a different view on whether the Rangers crowd will actually have any impact on the result - they may also feel a fuller, bigger atmosphere is better for us all round than a stadium with less going on, which it tends to be a lot of the time.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Some absolute drivel on this thread.

A loyalty scheme has been put in place, a scheme to reward loyalty. Simple stuff....

It is to reward fans who go to the most games. Fans who travel to every away fixture, as well as having a ST, will have more points than a ST who doesn't travel to away fixtures.... Therefore the fans with the most points should get first dibs on tickets as a reward. This is were the points banding comes into play. Making it open to all ST holder's like previous years, won't work for small allocation of tickets, hence why such a scheme was introduced.

Nothing to do with being an uberfan or other titles that get banded about, but about rewarding the ones who attend the most matches. How some can't understand this concept beggars belief...

[scoopyboy]

The only way that won't happen is if we sell enough today to the extent that we need to eat into the away end allocation.

There's a lot of emotional arguments to the fact that they have limited us so we should do the same - I do have some sympathy but it is also easier for them to do that because firstly its the extent of what we get at normal times and we rarely need more and secondly, they should be able to sell them to their own fans.

Hibs do need to take into account that although this isn't a league game, a move by us now to cut the allocation could mean that Rangers will refuse allocations in future. As I've said a few times on this thread we only had 10,000 of our own fans at the last Rangers game, which was a pretty key game at the time, and so I wouldn't want to see Hibs v Rangers games played in front of 10,000 to 11,000 in future.

Lastly, the board may just have a different view on whether the Rangers crowd will actually have any impact on the result - they may also feel a fuller, bigger atmosphere is better for us all round than a stadium with less going on, which it tends to be a lot of the time.

I agree with all of that Andy.

My info is that there is no danger we will sell enough tickets today to make the board think about restricting their support in the South.

For what its worth rather than give them a reduced allocation of 388 I would rather give them none, however that is just fantasy on my part.

[SteveHFC]

Some absolute drivel on this thread.

A loyalty scheme has been put in place, a scheme to reward loyalty. Simple stuff....

It is to reward fans who go to the most games. Fans who travel to every away fixture, as well as having a ST, will have more points than a ST who doesn't travel to away fixtures.... Therefore the fans with the most points should get first dibs on tickets as a reward. This is were the points banding comes into play. Making it open to all ST holder's like previous years, won't work for small allocation of tickets, hence why such a scheme was introduced.

Nothing to do with being an uberfan or other titles that get banded about, but about rewarding the ones who attend the most matches. How some can't understand this concept beggars belief...

:top markswell put

[Andy74]

Some absolute drivel on this thread.

A loyalty scheme has been put in place, a scheme to reward loyalty. Simple stuff....

It is to reward fans who go to the most games. Fans who travel to every away fixture, as well as having a ST, will have more points than a ST who doesn't travel to away fixtures.... Therefore the fans with the most points should get first dibs on tickets as a reward. This is were the points banding comes into play. Making it open to all ST holder's like previous years, won't work for small allocation of tickets, hence why such a scheme was introduced.

Nothing to do with being an uberfan or other titles that get banded about, but about rewarding the ones who attend the most matches. How some can't understand this concept beggars belief...

There's two problems with that:

Firstly, season tickets were sold before the scheme was launched and as usual they promised priority for ticket sales.

Secondly, this seems to be leap beyond what was being asked for and what was launched, it was a scheme to reward the loyalty of those who would otherwise not be captured.

If it is to be as you say that should be made very clear and should have been made very clear prior to season tickets being sold again, which has already happened.

This is why your simple concept is not so, there is no clarity on what the intention was at all and this latest interpretation of it seems to have been made up in the last couple of days to suit this particular problem.

[Baldy Foghorn]

There's two problems with that:

Firstly, season tickets were sold before the scheme was launched and as usual they promised priority for ticket sales.

Secondly, this seems to be leap beyond what was being asked for and what was launched, it was a scheme to reward the loyalty of those who would otherwise not be captured.

If it is to be as you say that should be made very clear and should have been made very clear prior to season tickets being sold again, which has already happened.

This is why your simple concept is not so, there is no clarity on what the intention was at all and this latest interpretation of it seems to have been made up in the last couple of days to suit this particular problem.

I think you are looking for faults in the system Andy....Why set up a loyalty scheme, if not to reward loyalty?

[flash]

I think you are looking for faults in the system Andy....Why set up a loyalty scheme, if not to reward loyalty?

The problem is caused by it being used this season
when everyone who bought a season ticket did so knowing it gave them priority.
It should be brought in at the start of next season.

[Baldy Foghorn]

There has been a lot of discussion around the threshold of loyalty points for the sale of away play-off tickets, with demand expected to be high for tickets.

The Hibernian Loyalty Scheme was introduced to recognise and reward the loyalty of all supporters, providing a more equitable means of distributing tickets when there is great demand. This is the first season we have implemented loyalty points, and may look to use alternative thresholds for selling tickets. Given the significant time constraints involved and the uncertainty of ticket allocations it was difficult to sell in several waves.

A number of alternatives were discussed, including thresholds from 60 points to 330 points. We hope to have reached a decision that will recognise the contribution of supporters who have attended matches both at Easter Road through season tickets and also cup and away tickets.

Hibernian FC Director Amit Moudgil said: "Myself and fellow Director, Frank Dougan, reviewed all the options in relation to loyalty points with the team at the club, and took in the broad views of the support with respect of this. Together, we set the thresholds based on the tickets available with the main aim of giving those fans who attend all or most of our games the first chance to purchase a ticket. The loyalty scheme was introduced to help us manage demand for games like this. It is still in its infancy though and we will be looking to refine it further in the future."

From Hibs, pretty straight forward statement, not hard to understand...

[TowerHibs]

I love when issues with tickets come out, ST holders come out as these high and mighty people who think the club should bow to their command.

"It's a big game, away from home, and i have not been to an away game all season. But i bought a season ticket and deserve priority over xyz....."

its laughable. I see ST should get priority over SOME games when availability/demand allows it.

[Baldy Foghorn]

The problem is caused by it being used this season
when everyone who bought a season ticket did so knowing it gave them priority.
It should be brought in at the start of next season.

It had to be brought in due to the number of smaller grounds giving us smaller allocations, not ideal timing mid season, but necessary nonetheless

[Andy74]

I think you are looking for faults in the system Andy....Why set up a loyalty scheme, if not to reward loyalty?

The number of pages of discussion so far tends to show there are faults in the system - whether that is real or interpretation I don't know but you were suggesting this is easy, it is evidently not.

The scheme rewards loyalty whatever the interpretation so I don't get your point.

Was it really envisaged that there would be a new level above season ticket holders? I'd be in that group so I don't really care but I don't agree that it was clear, and I don't think it should happen when season tickets were sold guaranteeing priority.

[Baldy Foghorn]

The number of pages of discussion so far tends to show there are faults in the system - whether that is real or interpretation I don't know but you were suggesting this is easy, it is evidently not.

The scheme rewards loyalty whatever the interpretation so I don't get your point.

Was it really envisaged that there would be a new level above season ticket holders? I'd be in that group so I don't really care but I don't agree that it was clear, and I don't think it should happen when season tickets were sold guaranteeing priority.

Is that not the point of awarding points for away fixtures? How do other teams do it, or the SFA for Scotland travel?

[Andy74]

Is that not the point of awarding points for away fixtures? How do other teams do it, or the SFA for Scotland travel?

I'd taken it more it was a way for people who were walks up to also benefit from getting points for away games so they could build up points and get into a tier that had some priority. That seemed to be the focus of the launch of it and discussion around it and that seemed to be the need it was addressing.

The cup final thing is an example, the argument was there was a general sale after the ST one and that there was no recognition of those that walked up. This was a way to get there.

I'd never heard any argument or discusion that said that there should be a smaller priority group ahead of those that just bought a ST. The premise is a very tricky one as it maybe solves a problem for 1 or 2 games but would change the status of a group that is very heavily relied on every year.

These past few years and the small crowds we still seem to be getting the thought of a regular ST holder not being throught of as top priority is not a good one.

[Brooster]

Massive own goal from Frank and Amit.

[scoopyboy]

Is that not the point of awarding points for away fixtures? How do other teams do it, or the SFA for Scotland travel?

It pains me to say it Brockie, but Hearts run an excellent loyalty scheme.

All we had to do was copy it.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'd taken it more it was a way for people who were walks up to also benefit from getting points for away games so they could build up points and get into a tier that had some priority. That seemed to be the focus of the launch of it and discussion around it and that seemed to be the need it was addressing.

The cup final thing is an example, the argument was there was a general sale after the ST one and that there was no recognition of those that walked up. This was a way to get there.

I'd never heard any argument or discusion that said that there should be a smaller priority group ahead of those that just bought a ST. The premise is a very tricky one as it maybe solves a problem for 1 or 2 games but would change the status of a group that is very heavily relied on every year.

These past few years and the small crowds we still seem to be getting the thought of a regular ST holder not being throught of as top priority is not a good one.

Fair enough Andy, it is hard to keep all fans happy, so I don't envy Hibs on that score.

I agree that the system has tried to address walk ups, but if you attended every game but missed out on Tynecastle perhaps (if they only gave us 1200 tickets), would you be OK that all ST's could purchase, or would you see the points amassed as a fairer way of distribution?

[Baldy Foghorn]

It pains me to say it Brockie, but Hearts run an excellent loyalty scheme.

All we had to do was copy it.

Yeah they were in my thoughts, although didn't want to name the beggars, however, their system seems to be great

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Some absolute drivel on this thread.

A loyalty scheme has been put in place, a scheme to reward loyalty. Simple stuff....

It is to reward fans who go to the most games. Fans who travel to every away fixture, as well as having a ST, will have more points than a ST who doesn't travel to away fixtures.... Therefore the fans with the most points should get first dibs on tickets as a reward. This is were the points banding comes into play. Making it open to all ST holder's like previous years, won't work for small allocation of tickets, hence why such a scheme was introduced.

Nothing to do with being an uberfan or other titles that get banded about, but about rewarding the ones who attend the most matches. How some can't understand this concept beggars belief...

Seems like common sense to me Steven. Start with the highest points holders and work down the list. There's nae point to the scheme otherwise.

[Steve20]

Why should we not be playing in it?

We shouldn't be in the second tier. We are because of the people who have been running our club for years. So in return, the supporters are asked to pay even extra on top of a season ticket at Premier League prices because we've been failed AGAIN. For the club then to give Rangers a boost by allowing them the entire South Stand would be poor.

If being really harsh, could also say we are only in the playoffs as we failed to be promoted automatically. But as I say, that's maybe being a bit harsh.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Seems like common sense to me Steven. Start with the highest points holders and work down the list. There's nae point to the scheme otherwise.

And I think that is the way it will work in the future where we have more than three days of a window

[marinello59]

Seems like common sense to me Steven. Start with the highest points holders and work down the list. There's nae point to the scheme otherwise.

I don't think anybody could really argue with that. This particular game had to be sold in too tight a time scale to make multiple banding practical. It shouldn't be a problem in the future though.

[southfieldhibby]

Some absolute drivel on this thread.

A loyalty scheme has been put in place, a scheme to reward loyalty. Simple stuff....

It is to reward fans who go to the most games. Fans who travel to every away fixture, as well as having a ST, will have more points than a ST who doesn't travel to away fixtures.... Therefore the fans with the most points should get first dibs on tickets as a reward. This is were the points banding comes into play. Making it open to all ST holder's like previous years, won't work for small allocation of tickets, hence why such a scheme was introduced.

Nothing to do with being an uberfan or other titles that get banded about, but about rewarding the ones who attend the most matches. How some can't understand this concept beggars belief...

Except you're wrong.

A fan who travels to every away game this season and has a season ticket but can't afford to renew will have less points than a season ticket holder who's renewed but has never been to a game outside ER.

If Hibs removed next years points from the scenario I'd agree with you, but they haven't, making the system unfair. Now I'm going to have to take my chances with 1000's of folk who never go away for a ticket to ground I've been to 3 times already this season!

I'd take my chances with the support who goes away on a regular basis, I reckon there's probably 1500 of them.

[southfieldhibby]

I wonder how Hibs are going to divvy up tickets on Monday ( assuming its Rangers?) half at the ticket office, half online?

[Andy74]

Except you're wrong.

A fan who travels to every away game this season and has a season ticket but can't afford to renew will have less points than a season ticket holder who's renewed but has never been to a game outside ER.

If Hibs removed next years points from the scenario I'd agree with you, but they haven't, making the system unfair. Now I'm going to have to take my chances with 1000's of folk who never go away for a ticket to ground I've been to 3 times already this season!

I'd take my chances with the support who goes away on a regular basis, I reckon there's probably 1500 of them.

That would devalue a season ticket to the point where you would risk not selling them. It's a very long standing understanding that you reward the loyalty and commitment of season ticket holders by giving them priority on tickets, to take up or not as they see fit, for games where their season ticket is not valid.

The suggestion that only fans that have been shown to go to away games can get priority for away games is a step too far and I do not believe this is what the scheme has ever been trying to do.

[bruno]

Seems like common sense to me Steven. Start with the highest points holders and work down the list. There's nae point to the scheme otherwise.

Have read a bit of this thread and having been in a loyalty points system for a number of years with a little patience and understanding of how the system works and evolves then these teething problems will be a thing of the past.

Our scheme does use the highest points threshold first particularly this season for the likes of Dumbarton, Ibrox and Easter Road where many were left disappointed. We work with the highest number of points band first then keep dropping the threshold until sold out. Where Hibs are unfortunate is they introduced scheme mid season as well as the short space of time to sell therefore introducing thresholds difficult.

Once these thresholds can be administered next season there can be no cause for concern as the selling window will be sufficient and they will have the ability not to oversell.

One thing to be wary off no scheme is perfect, I know when we travel to St Mirren etc where it is PATG we have to keep hold of ticket we get at the POD and go into Tynecastle to get points added but even this is time consuming and turning up with the raffle ticket you get from Dundee United is not practical so you still get people complaining

From an outsider I actually think Amit has come on here and done a good job trying to explain but I also understand the emotion of those that may miss out on a ticket.

Will all seem irrelevant if as hoped QOS win

[southfieldhibby]

That would devalue a season ticket to the point where you would risk not selling them. It's a very long standing understanding that you reward the loyalty and commitment of season ticket holders by giving them priority on tickets, to take up or not as they see fit, for games where their season ticket is not valid.

The suggestion that only fans that have been shown to go to away games can get priority for away games is a step too far and I do not believe this is what the scheme has ever been trying to do.


But that's not my point. Rewarding folk for next season to the detriment of those who've treked round Scotland this season is just not fair.

[JimBHibees]

That would devalue a season ticket to the point where you would risk not selling them. It's a very long standing understanding that you reward the loyalty and commitment of season ticket holders by giving them priority on tickets, to take up or not as they see fit, for games where their season ticket is not valid.

The suggestion that only fans that have been shown to go to away games can get priority for away games is a step too far and I do not believe this is what the scheme has ever been trying to do.

Would agree completely with that. Season ticket holders should come first including ones who have renewed for next year IMO.

[liamh2202]

The problem is caused by it being used this season
when everyone who bought a season ticket did so knowing it gave them priority.
It should be brought in at the start of next season.

As with people who have bought for next year with the same promise so the issue is not going away

[green day]

Have read a bit of this thread and having been in a loyalty points system for a number of years with a little patience and understanding of how the system works and evolves then these teething problems will be a thing of the past.

Our scheme does use the highest points threshold first particularly this season for the likes of Dumbarton, Ibrox and Easter Road where many were left disappointed. We work with the highest number of points band first then keep dropping the threshold until sold out. Where Hibs are unfortunate is they introduced scheme mid season as well as the short space of time to sell therefore introducing thresholds difficult.

Once these thresholds can be administered next season there can be no cause for concern as the selling window will be sufficient and they will have the ability not to oversell.

One thing to be wary off no scheme is perfect, I know when we travel to St Mirren etc where it is PATG we have to keep hold of ticket we get at the POD and go into Tynecastle to get points added but even this is time consuming and turning up with the raffle ticket you get from Dundee United is not practical so you still get people complaining

From an outsider I actually think Amit has come on here and done a good job trying to explain but I also understand the emotion of those that may miss out on a ticket.

Will all seem irrelevant if as hoped QOS win

Agree with all of that Bruno

[liamh2202]

I wonder how Hibs are going to divvy up tickets on Monday ( assuming its Rangers?) half at the ticket office, half online?

I would imagine it's one system so when they are gone they are gone. More chance online I imagine

[marinello59]

As with people who have bought for next year with the same promise so the issue is not going away

It may offer priority but not the first band in future. still priority though.

[3pm]

If it's Ibrox, I am not going.

I haven't been to either game at Ibrox so fair is fair (have the loyalty points). I haven't been to QOTS either but either have 2900 other folk so I'll be fair game for going down there if that's the outcome.

[liamh2202]

It may offer priority but not the first band in future. still priority though.
Second priority isn't quite the same though is it?

If they do that people may aswell be walk ups and choose home and away games to get to the same band. Devalued season tickets is a rocky Road in my view

[BoomtownHibees]

Would agree completely with that. Season ticket holders should come first including ones who have renewed for next year IMO.

Why should renewals for next year count?

[JimBHibees]

Why should renewals for next year count?

IMO because they have committed to a significant amount of money directly to the club.

[marinello59]

Second priority isn't quite the same though is it?

If they do that people may aswell be walk ups and choose home and away games to get to the same band. Devalued season tickets is a rocky Road in my view

Given that most people who go to every away game probably have season tickets and that it's very rare to have games such as this where demand is in excess of the number wanted by ST holders it really wouldn't make much practical difference.

[liamh2202]

Season tickets have always had priority. What has changed now?? The scheme was set up to distinguish between regular walk-ups and for want of a better description.. Day trippers.

[liamh2202]

Given that most people who go to every away game probably have season tickets and that it's very rare to have games such as this where demand is in excess of the number wanted by ST holders it really wouldn't make much practical difference.

You shouldn't be classing season ticket holders in different categories when they have paid the same into the club.. I get the travel all over Scotland argument but what about guys that travel the length of the country for home games therefore can afford away games? They would only have 150 points and wouldn't be entitled to a ticket. I just think its a bit out of order when it would be easier for them not to get a season ticket, do all the away games and maybe a couple of home games but they are willing to fork out on a season ticket. The system had worked for years for season ticket holders. Even through more popular times than this

[southfieldhibby]

I would imagine it's one system so when they are gone they are gone. More chance online I imagine

Nope.Ticketmaster will have to preload a certain number of tickets online, with the others being at the ticket office.

475 online and the same at the to is my guess.

[liamh2202]

Nope.Ticketmaster will have to preload a certain number of tickets online, with the others being at the ticket office.

475 online and the same at the to is my guess.

Why do the club not just use ticketmasters system?

[BoomtownHibees]

IMO because they have committed to a significant amount of money directly to the club.

There's maybe an argument for renewals but surely not for folk just buying for next season but didn't attend this season??

[liamh2202]

There's maybe an argument for renewals but surely not for folk just buying for next season but didn't attend this season??

The club already have my money for next year too?? How is that different to a renewal? I was a walk up this year due to deployment. I don't think next year's seasons should count either way renewal or not... Maybe a tier of their own but certainly not as important as this year's STs

[marinello59]

You shouldn't be classing season ticket holders in different categories when they have paid the same into the club.. I get the travel all over Scotland argument but what about guys that travel the length of the country for home games therefore can afford away games? They would only have 150 points and wouldn't be entitled to a ticket. I just think its a bit out of order when it would be easier for them not to get a season ticket, do all the away games and maybe a couple of home games but they are willing to fork out on a season ticket. The system had worked for years for season ticket holders. Even through more popular times than this

I don't really see what relevance the distance people have to travel to home games has to this.

[Sir David Gray]

You shouldn't as the loyalty points would be your husbands. There were a couple of posters on here saying that they did get loyalty points that way though so they might be on your account.

I got loyalty points for buying my brother a ticket for a home game under my client id earlier in the season.

[liamh2202]

I don't really see what relevance the distance people have to travel to home games has to this.

It was an example of the kind of groups this would definitely value STs to. I don't see the relevance on how many away games you attend as the club see no income from that.. It's getting a bit tit for tat so will just leave my opinion as all STs should be in the top band.

[liamh2202]

You could actually buy away tickets to bump up loyalty points and actually not attend. Used to happen a lot in the tartan army. So you are getting rewarded and the club would see no benefit at all..

[iwasthere1972]

You shouldn't as the loyalty points would be your husbands. There were a couple of posters on here saying that they did get loyalty points that way though so they might be on your account.

I was one of those posters but Hibs did a manual adjustment to my loyalty points and reduced them by 15 which were the ones I was awarded for buying family members a ticket.

The correct thing to do. :agree:

[silverhibee]

Rubbish. We need the money and I'll gladly take it.

I'm sure Rangers need the money too, but they were quite happy to not give us any more tickets for the last time we played at Ibrox and there was plenty spaces in the stadium that night to have given Hibs more tickets but they declined and they seem to be in a bigger mess than us but were willing to take the hit so that we had a small support that night, pretty sure they blamed Scottish Police for not wanting a big crowd that night, surely Scottish Police will have the same views about 1000s of fans travelling to the Capital from across the UK, surely SP will be against that for the safety of the citizens of Edinburgh.

[silverhibee]

We give them what they give us in my opinion

They have a bigger stadium that holds more fans Billy, so surely they can only expect 400 for the size of our stadium.

[TrinityHibs]

As a renewing season ticket holder who very seldom goes to away games I think priority should be given to season ticket holders who have also gone to away games through the season. The real issue s the lack of available tickets if Sevco get through however there is no incentive for Derhun to release more seats. If they gave us an extra 1000 the Hibs atmosphere would be massively improved but they would only get £3,750 extra as they have to give away 75% of 1000 x £15 to the SPFL. If they only charged £5 they would get £5,000 extra in but would still have to hand over £11,250 to the SPFL making them £6250 less well off. Basically they would be paying for more Hibs supporters to turn up.:rolleyes:

[Billy Whizz]

They have a bigger stadium that holds more fans Billy, so surely they can only expect 400 for the size of our stadium.

Silver, I'd give them the same, if we give them 400, they might reduce us the next time

[BoomtownHibees]

The club already have my money for next year too?? How is that different to a renewal? I was a walk up this year due to deployment. I don't think next year's seasons should count either way renewal or not... Maybe a tier of their own but certainly not as important as this year's STs

You will be rewarded next season for having a season ticket for next year. I actually agree that next year's shouldn't count at all.

[B.H.F.C]

I wonder how Hibs are going to divvy up tickets on Monday ( assuming its Rangers?) half at the ticket office, half online?

Online and phone only is it not?

[.Sean.]

Silver, I'd give them the same, if we give them 400, they might reduce us the next time
We get the bare minimum required so they certainly can't cut any future allocations!

[IrnBru22]

Probably been asked already but do you get points for buying tickets for the home play-off game?

[southfieldhibby]

Probably been asked already but do you get points for buying tickets for the home play-off game?

Yes,5.Took me over the threshold

[IrnBru22]

Yes,5.Took me over the threshold

Cheers

[NAE NOOKIE]

Phew ... what a long read that was.

I have little to say on the loyalty points debate, apart from to say that its the Current Buns at fault here as much as our points system.

As far as folk pointing out that the status quo applied to league game allocation should remain in place for this game. If we play them in a cup final would you agree that they get 40,000 tickets for Hampden and we get 10,000 ? After all Hibs would get the same money.

In my opinion if they are seriously going to give us 900 tickets Hibs should tell them to stuff them up their arse and give them no tickets for ER. Or at the very worst accept the 900 and give them 400 tickets max. This cant be just about money ... I for one will be very very angry if Hibs bend over for a shafting on this one. How can the club issue calls to arms asking us to turn out to support the team and at the same time allow the current buns an advantage by giving them a whole stand at ER while we get a corner at Ibrox ........... not for me thanks !!!

[BoomtownHibees]

Phew ... what a long read that was.

I have little to say on the loyalty points debate, apart from to say that its the Current Buns at fault here as much as our points system.

As far as folk pointing out that the status quo applied to league game allocation should remain in place for this game. If we play them in a cup final would you agree that they get 40,000 tickets for Hampden and we get 10,000 ? After all Hibs would get the same money.

In my opinion if they are seriously going to give us 900 tickets Hibs should tell them to stuff them up their arse and give them no tickets for ER. Or at the very worst accept the 900 and give them 400 tickets max. This cant be just about money ... I for one will be very very angry if Hibs bend over for a shafting on this one. How can the club issue calls to arms asking us to turn out to support the team and at the same time allow the current buns an advantage by giving them a whole stand at ER while we get a corner at Ibrox ........... not for me thanks !!!

They wouldn't have the option to choose for a cup final so I don't see your point. They are well within their rights to give us the same amount as they do for normal league games. Hibs have already said that if we sell enough ourselves then we will reduce their allocation.

[emerald green]

When does this ACTUALLY happen at Ibrox? I feel like I'm missing out as I've been several times, sat in that away corner and never had any of the above chucked at me.

Has anyone, in the past 15-20 years at least, GENUINELY had pish chucked at them at Ibrox?? :confused:

It was longer ago than 15-20 years I admit, but I've had cans of what I'm fairly sure contained pish thrown in my direction at Ibrox, Hampden, and Easter Road when Hibs have been playing the Ibrox club. **** of the earth. :rolleyes:

[Hibby70]

If I get a ticket for ibrox it's going straight on eBay for £6 buy now option - tidy profit for me.

I'll enjoy my paid for big Galaxy from WH Smith whilst watching it on BT Sport whilst you all get hit by flying mobile phones and urine.

Suckers.

[NAE NOOKIE]

They wouldn't have the option to choose for a cup final so I don't see your point. They are well within their rights to give us the same amount as they do for normal league games. Hibs have already said that if we sell enough ourselves then we will reduce their allocation.

The point was that folk were talking as if there is nothing to complain about that the Current Buns think they can get away with giving us a tiny allocation for Ibrox but still expect to be given 3,900 for ER ... This is not a league game and shouldn't be treated as such.

IMO how many we sell doesn't matter a toss ... this is about promotion, not about receipts for one game.

[Ronniekirk]

If I get a ticket for ibrox it's going straight on eBay for £6 buy now option - tidy profit for me.

I'll enjoy my paid for big Galaxy from WH Smith whilst watching it on BT Sport whilst you all get hit by flying mobile phones and urine.

Suckers.

I know someone that works in the ticket office at Ibrox so I will be in the home end for first game there so I won't be getting hit with anything Although it's not pleasant if they score and some big bear starts hugging you but a price worth paying I if we can silence them .

[DH1875]

I know someone that works in the ticket office at Ibrox so I will be in the home end for first game there so I won't be getting hit with anything Although it's not pleasant if they score and some big bear starts hugging you but a price worth paying I if we can silence them .

I've sat in the home end when we've played them at Ibrox before. It was a horrible experience.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I've sat in the home end when we've played them at Ibrox before. It was a horrible experience.

I've done it before, agree it is a horrible experience....

[JimBHibees]

I've done it before, agree it is a horrible experience....

I did the reverse was in the away end at ER was shocking. Was at college and travelled to Edinburgh with a mate who was a Killie fan and only tickets we could get were for away end. Wasnt long after we won the League cup in 91 and we played really well in the first half and can remember Keith Wright almost scoring and I could feel myself almost jumping up :greengrin, never again. We ended up losing 3-0

[Andy74]

I've done it before, agree it is a horrible experience....

Me too, never again!

[Ronniekirk]

I've sat in the home end when we've played them at Ibrox before. It was a horrible experience.
Have done it on several occasions ,and while it's a bit uncomfortable having to keep your emotions in check .if we get a result it will be worth it I can't go to return leg. So wanted to one of the games live .
Like others who can't go to our home game will donate ticket money to allow someone else to go and vehicle for this seems to be Lieth Links

[SHODAN]

Couldn't Hibs release a statement saying the amount of tickets given from Hibs to the opposition in the South Stand will be the same as the number of tickets given to Hibs for the away game? Watch our allocation for Ibrox shoot up to 3,500.

[PatHead]

I've sat in the home end when we've played them at Ibrox before. It was a horrible experience.

I did it last time and it was alright as there were hardly any of them there and the few that did go were long gone before the end.:greengrin

[Andy74]

I'd be intersted in an honest assessment on here of who fully intends to go to Ibrox if they can get a ticket and then compare it to who gets a ticket, if we play them, and see how big an issue this really is!

[Pete]

I'd be intersted in an honest assessment on here of who fully intends to go to Ibrox if they can get a ticket and then compare it to who gets a ticket, if we play them, and see how big an issue this really is!

Andy. Just stoppit.

:greengrin

[Andy74]

Andy. Just stoppit.

:greengrin

Come on, only fair we get some evidence of this issue! :greengrin

[Hibby70]

I know someone that works in the ticket office at Ibrox so I will be in the home end for first game there so I won't be getting hit with anything Although it's not pleasant if they score and some big bear starts hugging you but a price worth paying I if we can silence them .

Sod it I'm now going to go and throw something at you from our end ya Hun loving bassa.

[southfieldhibby]

Trying to establish whether there's a sale on Monday at the ticket office of if its just online/ on phone. Nothing suggests either way. Have tweeted hibs with no reply @amit ?

[Ronniekirk]

Sod it I'm now going to go and throw something at you from our end ya Hun loving bassa.
I think the odds of you randomly picking me out are slim but yes I will be wearing blue for my own safety but will have my Hibs top on underneath

[Hibby70]

I think the odds of you randomly picking me out are slim but yes I will be wearing blue for my own safety but will have my Hibs top on underneath

I'll just take 40,000 one pound coins. Bound to hit you sooner or later.

In fact I'll just need one. You'll be the only one that looks like a normal human in amongst a sea of orcs.

[southern hibby]

Or just wait till 20-30 from the end of game only ones left in the Rangers end will be Hibs Fans

GGTTH

[Sir David Gray]

I know someone that works in the ticket office at Ibrox so I will be in the home end for first game there so I won't be getting hit with anything Although it's not pleasant if they score and some big bear starts hugging you but a price worth paying I if we can silence them .

I would rather scrape my own eyeballs out than sit in the home end at Ibrox.

[HibbyAndy]

I would rather scrape my own eyeballs out than sit in the home end at Ibrox.

No danger id be sitting with those bigoted inbreds..Absolutely no danger.

[iwasthere1972]

Or just wait till 20-30 from the end of game only ones left in the Rangers end will be Hibs Fans

GGTTH

:greengrin

Now that would be good.

[IanM]

Trying to establish whether there's a sale on Monday at the ticket office of if its just online/ on phone. Nothing suggests either way. Have tweeted hibs with no reply @amit ?

Wondering the same?

[Argylehibby]

Trying to establish whether there's a sale on Monday at the ticket office of if its just online/ on phone. Nothing suggests either way. Have tweeted hibs with no reply @amit ?

Sale at the ticket office starts at 10 am. It's on official site says online or in person.

[SteveHFC]

Bring on tomorrow morning :greengrin

[hibsbollah]

Id imagine more than 950 people have 180+ loyalty points, hence tickets will probably all be gone by tuesday when they go on 'general' sale? (Havent read the whole thread)...

[SteveHFC]

Tickets £5

[Albanian Hibs]

Managed to get 2 client refs from family members who arent going to ibrox, since I only had 179pts. Good luck in the ticket scramble tomorrow!!!

[Albanian Hibs]

Id imagine more than 950 people have 180+ loyalty points, hence tickets will probably all be gone by tuesday when they go on 'general' sale? (Havent read the whole thread)...

Think the tickets will be all gone by 10.30 tomorrow

[cleanyman]

I'll be sitting in the main stand.

Mon the Hibs

[S4uzee]

Can someone buy tickets from their account even if they don't have enough loyalty points but have my client ref numbers on their network?

[NYHibby]

I've sat in the home end when we've played them at Ibrox before. It was a horrible experience.

I've done it twice, and we have won both of those times. I thought it was a perfectly fine experience and definitely better than our last game in Falkirk.

[Hibby70]

Anyone going by train? Last train back is at 11 from QS - I assume that's catchable even of we are kept back for 30 mins. Or will the subway be heaving and make it tight?

Ignore me noticed there's one at 23:30

[Hibby91]

Says on the official site
Tickets for the away tie at Ibrox will go on sale at 10am on Monday 18 May to all supporters who have 180 loyalty points or more, limited to one ticket per person.

Does this mean i can only get one or can i buy additonal tickets with other client reference numbers

[Sir David Gray]

Says on the official site
Tickets for the away tie at Ibrox will go on sale at 10am on Monday 18 May to all supporters who have 180 loyalty points or more, limited to one ticket per person.

Does this mean i can only get one or can i buy additonal tickets with other client reference numbers

As long as the client reference number you're using has at least 180 loyalty points, you can buy as many tickets as you want.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm going to try and get tickets but if I'm unsuccessful would anybody be interested in trying to get a get together organised to watch en masse?

Obviously Sunnyside will be busy but somewhere for non members of there? Sure a few pubs would be glad off the business on a Wednesday, maybe get pies etc sorted.

[S4uzee]

I'm going to try and get tickets but if I'm unsuccessful would anybody be interested in trying to get a get together organised to watch en masse?

Obviously Sunnyside will be busy but somewhere for non members of there? Sure a few pubs would be glad off the business on a Wednesday, maybe get pies etc sorted.

It would be good if they could open behind the goals

[Hibby91]

As long as the client reference number you're using has at least 180 loyalty points, you can buy as many tickets as you want.

Ok thanks thought that would be the case

[3pm]

I'm going to try and get tickets but if I'm unsuccessful would anybody be interested in trying to get a get together organised to watch en masse?

Obviously Sunnyside will be busy but somewhere for non members of there? Sure a few pubs would be glad off the business on a Wednesday, maybe get pies etc sorted.

Sure the Hibs Club would let you in.

[BS44]

I'm going to try and get tickets but if I'm unsuccessful would anybody be interested in trying to get a get together organised to watch en masse?

Obviously Sunnyside will be busy but somewhere for non members of there? Sure a few pubs would be glad off the business on a Wednesday, maybe get pies etc sorted.

I would be wanting to sit and watch the match with my fellow good guys and girls, rather than watch it in the local which will possibly have huns in it as well. But I will be trying my damnedest to get tickets tomorrow morning.

[iwasthere1972]

I've done it twice, and we have won both of those times. I thought it was a perfectly fine experience and definitely better than our last game in Falkirk.

I've only been in The Rangers end once back in 1969/70. I was the only Hibby in that end for some reason as all my mates where behind the other goals. Anyway as a 13 year old it didn't stop me from giving it a big Yeeeeeeeeesssssssss when Peter Marinello scored. Got a filthy stare from this woman. I could tell she was a woman due to her tache being quite well groomed. Anyway I celebrated another couple of times when Marinello and Joe McBride stuck the baw in the Rangers net.

Would I do it now. No way.

[Juice-Terry]

Does anyone know how much the tickets will be? Is it a fiver again?

[eastterrace]

I've only been in The Rangers end once back in 1969/70. I was the only Hibby in that end for some reason as all my mates where behind the other goals. Anyway as a 13 year old it didn't stop me from giving it a big Yeeeeeeeeesssssssss when Peter Marinello scored. Got a filthy stare from this woman. I could tell she was a woman due to her tache being quite well groomed. Anyway I celebrated another couple of times when Marinello and Joe McBride stuck the baw in the Rangers net.

Would I do it now. No way.

i was at that game our tactics that day were spot on, so hopefully stubbs tactics be the same outcome

[iwasthere1972]

Does anyone know how much the tickets will be? Is it a fiver again?

SPFL Premiership Semi final play off
Rangers v Hibernian
Wednesday 20 May, 7.45pm Kick Off
All tickets are £5

I think that means £5 for each ticket and not a fiver for 52,000 tickets.

[iwasthere1972]

i was at that game our tactics that day were spot on, so hopefully stubbs tactics be the same outcome

IIRC I was in the what is now the Copeland stand. You must have been in the Broomloan.

[eastterrace]

IIRC I was in the what is now the Copeland stand. You must have been in the Broomloan.

cant remember exactly but mind being behind the goals so your probably right with a few hundred of us and being surrounded by that lot

[Juice-Terry]

SPFL Premiership Semi final play off
Rangers v Hibernian
Wednesday 20 May, 7.45pm Kick Off
All tickets are £5

I think that means £5 for each ticket and not a fiver for 52,000 tickets.

Cheers.