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snooky
12-05-2015, 09:04 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32700575

£102.6m? :crazy:

(Maybe the title of this thread should read "Art? For F's sake").

Geo_1875
12-05-2015, 09:32 AM
It might be by Picasso but I wouldn't give it house room.

wpj
12-05-2015, 03:35 PM
Beautiful painting, crazy price

HUTCHYHIBBY
12-05-2015, 03:42 PM
It's just rich people showing off their wealth.

Mikey09
12-05-2015, 03:56 PM
It's just rich people showing off their wealth.


Exactly HUTCHY... Load of pretentious bull****. Not the painting just the "collectors". Again shows the gaping divide between the rich and poor in this world. £115million for a ****in painting is beyond disgusting.

hibsbollah
12-05-2015, 04:21 PM
The conspicuous consumption of the rich is disgusting when half the world is starving etc etc etc. But it makes as much sense to spend it on beautiful art than other much more irrelevant and totally pointless things (from my point of view) like sports cars or faberge eggs (now THATS pointless, although I suppose its art in its own way), or indeed Premier League football clubs. Would Abramovich had as much pleasure from a great painting in his house as from buying Ashley Cole or Diego Costa?

Pete
12-05-2015, 05:17 PM
It would be better if these pieces were in galleries so the masses could appreciate them.

It's a lot of money but who are we to say how an individual spends hos money. They aren't doing any real harm.

I'd rather they bought paintings than invest all that money in residential property.

Sir David Gray
12-05-2015, 06:01 PM
If that painting's worth over £100 million then there's hope for me yet and I stink at art.

I wouldn't pay a tenner for it.

Hibernia&Alba
12-05-2015, 06:19 PM
Over £100 million for a painting. I wonder what the communist Picasso would make of it?

lord bunberry
12-05-2015, 07:47 PM
Has anyone seen that monstrosity outside the summerhall venue? It's a pile of furniture, I thought there had been a fire, but apparently it's art.

Colr
12-05-2015, 08:57 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32700575

£102.6m? :crazy:

(Maybe the title of this thread should read "Art? For F's sake").

Arts been a pretty good investment over the years . I read Hugh Grant made more money selling his pop art investments than he did in acting.

An object is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it.

heretoday
12-05-2015, 10:45 PM
It's not a fave of mine. I don't care for his later stuff much. Some of Picasso's early C20th is great though and I'd give a great deal to have one on the wall......if I had any money.

snooky
12-05-2015, 10:51 PM
Over £100 million for a painting. I wonder what the communist Picasso would make of it?

Ka-ching! Ka-ching! I would guess.

snooky
12-05-2015, 10:55 PM
Has anyone seen that monstrosity outside the summerhall venue? It's a pile of furniture, I thought there had been a fire, but apparently it's art.

And so is this (apparently) ....
https://community.tes.co.uk/tes_opinion/f/31/t/698847.aspx
My ma would've killed me if I'd left a mess like that.

lord bunberry
12-05-2015, 11:15 PM
And so is this (apparently) ....
https://community.tes.co.uk/tes_opinion/f/31/t/698847.aspx
My ma would've killed me if I'd left a mess like that.
I must be an artist as well then :greengrin

(((Fergus)))
13-05-2015, 06:27 PM
It's just rich people showing off their wealth.

More likely rich people investing their wealth in something that will hold its value, especially as the buyer chose to remain anonymous.

snooky
13-05-2015, 11:57 PM
More likely rich people investing their wealth in something that will hold its value, especially as the buyer chose to remain anonymous.

Good point - but it's still an obscene transaction.

heretoday
14-05-2015, 09:16 AM
Good point - but it's still an obscene transaction.

So is the price paid for a top footballer these days. Arguably it's worse as the transfer fee goes to pay agents and other commercial entities whereas a painting is a painting.

Lucius Apuleius
14-05-2015, 10:39 AM
More likely rich people investing their wealth in something that will hold its value, especially as the buyer chose to remain anonymous.

Expert on telly reckons it will be worth 250 million quid in ten years

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14-05-2015, 11:15 AM
Expert on telly reckons it will be worth 250 million quid in ten years


That may be so, LA, but if that's what the women of Algiers look like, they mustn't be very well.

Or seriously double-jointed. :devil:

HUTCHYHIBBY
14-05-2015, 11:48 AM
Beautiful painting, crazy price

I dinnae see any beauty in it whatsover but, each to their own.

Lucius Apuleius
14-05-2015, 06:14 PM
That may be so, LA, but if that's what the women of Algiers look like, they mustn't be very well.

Or seriously double-jointed. :devil:

Don't know any Arab states where the wimmun look good. Maybe Lebanon at a push. 😋

LaMotta
14-05-2015, 11:13 PM
I dinnae see any beauty in it whatsover but, each to their own.

I've seen nicer paintings in The Range For a tenner!

Pete
15-05-2015, 05:55 AM
Has anyone seen that monstrosity outside the summerhall venue? It's a pile of furniture, I thought there had been a fire, but apparently it's art.

Art is supposed to provoke a reaction but I think a lot of it punches you in the face instead of speaking to you or drawing you in.

I suppose this piece has done it a job to an extent as you thought about it but it's not really for me either. There is fantastic architecture all around it, which is also art, so it maybe needs to disappear now that it's had its moment.

hibsbollah
17-05-2015, 11:55 AM
Art is supposed to provoke a reaction.

Well of course.

We have art in order not to die of the truth. Friedrich Nietzsche. Think about THAT. :nerd:

Colr
18-05-2015, 04:12 PM
Art is supposed to provoke a reaction but I think a lot of it punches you in the face instead of speaking to you or drawing you in.

I suppose this piece has done it a job to an extent as you thought about it but it's not really for me either. There is fantastic architecture all around it, which is also art, so it maybe needs to disappear now that it's had its moment.

With almost all art you need to do a bit of work on the artistic and historical context to get the most out of it. Modern art is often difficult to grasp on a superficial level unlike figurative art but if you don't dig below the surface of Manet, for example, you won't grasp why his work was considered so outrageous at the time and why he is important to the development of painting, you just see a picture of a block and a barmaid. Just as you see an odd jumble of childish shapes in Picasso.

snooky
18-05-2015, 04:43 PM
With almost all art you need to do a bit of work on the artistic and historical context to get the most out of it. Modern art is often difficult to grasp on a superficial level unlike figurative art but if you don't dig below the surface of Manet, for example, you won't grasp why his work was considered so outrageous at the time and why he is important to the development of painting, you just see a picture of a block and a barmaid. Just as you see an odd jumble of childish shapes in Picasso.

I know very little about art in general however, I know what I like when I see it.
I find the works of Manet & Monet are my idea of what 'art' should be.
I also like Canaletto's Venice-scapes.

Okay, that's enough culture - back to the Beano :wink:

Craig_HFC
20-05-2015, 01:46 PM
I feel so strongly about the obscenity of the price of this painting that I'm going to boycott any future auctions of Picasso's work.

:cb

Colr
22-05-2015, 10:19 AM
Art as an investment, I can undertstand. Even, wine as an investment but $20,000 for a bottle of wine you are going to drink let alone for champagne your going to have a bath in I can't grasp.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/beyonce-angers-fans-by-pouring-expensive-champagne-into-hot-tub-in-feeling-myself-music-video-with-nicki-minaj-10266915.html