View Full Version : How quickly do we get the exit polls?
Hibbyradge
07-05-2015, 08:48 PM
I'm in bed so I can get up to watch the results, but is it worth while waiting for the exit polls?
Hibbyradge
07-05-2015, 08:54 PM
I'm waiting up anyway...
JeMeSouviens
07-05-2015, 08:54 PM
Bang on 10pm. The last time was almost called exactly, only a few seats out. Trickier this time given the fragmentation of the vote in so many places.
Sir David Gray
07-05-2015, 09:00 PM
Sky News exit poll;
Conservatives - 316
Labour - 239
SNP - 58
Lib Dems - 10
UKIP - 2
lord bunberry
07-05-2015, 09:01 PM
Sky News exit poll;
Conservatives - 316
Labour - 239
SNP - 58
Lib Dems - 10
UKIP - 2
Wow
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Looks like a Tory win but without a majority.
Labour lose seats and SNP could fall just shy of the clean sweep in Scotland.
Haymaker
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Wow
Sky news.
johnbc70
07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
SNP hurting Labour and giving the Tories the lead. We are on for another Tory/Lib Dem coalition.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:04 PM
SNP hurting Labour and giving the Tories the lead. We are on for another Tory/Lib Dem coalition.
Nonsense.
Even with 40 or 50 more seats in Scotland Labour would still be miles short of the Tories and nowhere near a majority.
JeMeSouviens
07-05-2015, 09:05 PM
If Clegg wins Con/Lib coalition. If he doesn't, Tory minority.
:-(
Sir David Gray
07-05-2015, 09:05 PM
Sky news.
I saw it reported first on Sky News but the BBC's reporting the same result.
It appears to be a broadcasters poll.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:06 PM
I saw it reported first on Sky News but the BBC's reporting the same result.
It appears to be a broadcasters poll.
Ipsos Mori for Sky, BBC and 1 other who I can't remember I believe.
Hibrandenburg
07-05-2015, 09:08 PM
If the SNP have really won 58 out of 59 possible seats in Scotland and the Tories still get in then I give up all hope of Scotland ever having a voice in the UK.
JeMeSouviens
07-05-2015, 09:09 PM
Ipsos Mori for Sky, BBC and 1 other who I can't remember I believe.
ITV. It's a huge expensive poll so they share the cost.
Haymaker
07-05-2015, 09:09 PM
I saw it reported first on Sky News but the BBC's reporting the same result.
It appears to be a broadcasters poll.
So it does. I wouldnt trust SKY as far as I could throw them but fair play
God Petrie
07-05-2015, 09:11 PM
If the SNP have really won 58 out of 59 possible seats in Scotland and the Tories still get in then I give up all hope of Scotland ever having a voice in the UK.
Personally as a raving nationalist lunatic, that exit poll would be perfect.
lord bunberry
07-05-2015, 09:14 PM
SNP hurting Labour and giving the Tories the lead. We are on for another Tory/Lib Dem coalition.
Labour hurting themselves. Why is it always the SNP that hurt labour and help the Tories? Where are all the people who voted labour in 97? Are they not hurting labour and helping the Tories? I'm fed up being told that by not voting labour I'm helping the Tories, I'm not I'm voting for who I think will best serve me and my country. If labour can't gain enough votes whilst child poverty is at an all time high and people are using food banks to survive then they've only got themselves to blame.
God Petrie
07-05-2015, 09:16 PM
SNP votes don't matter if labour have totally chucked it in engerland as the exits suggest.
CropleyWasGod
07-05-2015, 09:16 PM
If Clegg wins Con/Lib coalition. If he doesn't, Tory minority.
:-(
Throw in UKIP, and the DUP, and they might just scrape it.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:19 PM
SNP votes don't matter if labour have totally chucked it in engerland as the exits suggest.
Spot on.
Don't expect Murphy, Dugale, Curran etc to admit that though.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:20 PM
Throw in UKIP, and the DUP, and they might just scrape it.
I wonder if UKIP will use their seats, if they get 2, as bait for an EU referendum?
'We'll take the Tory whip if we get our day in the sun'.
CropleyWasGod
07-05-2015, 09:21 PM
I wonder if UKIP will use their seats, if they get 2, as bait for an EU referendum?
'We'll take the Tory whip if we get our day in the sun'.
:agree:
.... and "they" worried about the SNP tail wagging the UK dug?
Haymaker
07-05-2015, 09:25 PM
Apparently the exit polls are based on 22,000 voters?
johnbc70
07-05-2015, 09:26 PM
I wonder if UKIP will use their seats, if they get 2, as bait for an EU referendum?
'We'll take the Tory whip if we get our day in the sun'.
Have the Tories not promised a referendum by 2017 anyway.
Beefster
07-05-2015, 09:27 PM
If the exit polls are anywhere near accurate, there's going to be a bloodbath in the UK and Scottish Labour Parties.
God Petrie
07-05-2015, 09:28 PM
Apparently the exit polls are based on 22,000 voters?
Much wider than normal polls which are only around 2,000 usually I think
Hibby Bairn
07-05-2015, 09:29 PM
No chance Tories getting 316.
Have the Tories not promised a referendum by 2017 anyway.
Yup. And the terms have been discussed with the EU, apparently. EU will give more autonomy so that Cameron and whowever is leading Labour and LibDem will all campaign for vote to stay in.
We'll have to wait and see.
judas
07-05-2015, 09:34 PM
Personally as a raving nationalist lunatic, that exit poll would be perfect.
Yup. This would be a good result for the independence movement.
Irrefutable proof that Scotland is impotent at UK level. Even if all the predicted seats of snp switched to labour now it would have made sod all difference.
Salmond was right. Scotlands course is fairly certain.
RyeSloan
07-05-2015, 09:37 PM
Have the Tories not promised a referendum by 2017 anyway.
But Cameron really doesn't want one...I reckon he reckoned it could be bargained away in a coalition agreement.
I dint agree with an earlier poster that Scotland would have no voice..58 SNP in Westminster would be a significant voice in the UK pArliament against any coalition with a wafer thin majority. Scotland voted to stay in the union then has voted overwhelming for the party that it thinks will best serve it in that and as it turns out will have a very effective block vote that would allow any government proposal to sail through or force it into a nail biting vote...should be pretty interesting to see how scenario would pan out :-)
OsloHibs
07-05-2015, 09:38 PM
Who the hell are these people who represent the answer from these random polls?
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:38 PM
Sturgeon tweeting she thinks 58 seats is unlikely although expects a good night.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:39 PM
Who the hell are these people who represent the answer from these random polls?
I'm one.
I regularly take part in Yougov polls and was invited to take part in an online exit poll.
Hibbyradge
07-05-2015, 09:41 PM
SNP hurting Labour and giving the Tories the lead. We are on for another Tory/Lib Dem coalition.
Nonsense.
Pretty Boy
07-05-2015, 09:42 PM
Nonsense.
Absolutely.
239 + 58 doesn't equal 326. It doesn't even equal 316.
Labour have lost this across the board not just in Scotland.
Hibby Bairn
07-05-2015, 09:45 PM
But Cameron really doesn't want one...I reckon he reckoned it could be bargained away in a coalition agreement.
I dint agree with an earlier poster that Scotland would have no voice..58 SNP in Westminster would be a significant voice in the UK pArliament against any coalition with a wafer thin majority. Scotland voted to stay in the union then has voted overwhelming for the party that it thinks will best serve it in that and as it turns out will have a very effective block vote that would allow any government proposal to sail through or force it into a nail biting vote...should be pretty interesting to see how scenario would pan out :-)
Share of vote for SNP important to see move from referendum. I think they would need to see it move towards 60% to lay any short term claims for another go at independence.
Hiber-nation
07-05-2015, 09:45 PM
I'm one.
I regularly take part in Yougov polls and was invited to take part in an online exit poll.
Me too!
Beefster
07-05-2015, 09:49 PM
Share of vote for SNP important to see move from referendum. I think they would need to see it move towards 60% to lay any short term claims for another go at independence.
To be fair, if the UK votes to leave the EU, I think that would be enough for another referendum. I'll campaign and vote for Scottish independence myself if it happens.
But Cameron really doesn't want one...I reckon he reckoned it could be bargained away in a coalition agreement.
I dint agree with an earlier poster that Scotland would have no voice..58 SNP in Westminster would be a significant voice in the UK pArliament against any coalition with a wafer thin majority. Scotland voted to stay in the union then has voted overwhelming for the party that it thinks will best serve it in that and as it turns out will have a very effective block vote that would allow any government proposal to sail through or force it into a nail biting vote...should be pretty interesting to see how scenario would pan out :-)
A voice in parliament but on the exit poll no voice in government and no ministers in government unlike under Labour.
From an English perspective, thats good because then Scottish MPs will not be determining policy that only affects England so no need to legislate on the subject.
I think the result is going to be a lot closer than the exit poll suggests, though.
ballengeich
07-05-2015, 09:51 PM
I'm one.
I regularly take part in Yougov polls and was invited to take part in an online exit poll.
If Yougov polls rely on people who regularly take part then they're getting the views of people who're interested in politics so may not be representative of the population in general. On that basis, I expect Yougov to be less accurate than the tv companies' poll.
Beefster
07-05-2015, 09:52 PM
If Yougov polls rely on people who regularly take part then they're getting the views of people who're interested in politics so may not be representative of the population in general. On that basis, I expect Yougov to be less accurate than the tv companies' poll.
The vast majority of YouGov polls are nothing to do with politics.
(((Fergus)))
07-05-2015, 09:56 PM
If the SNP have really won 58 out of 59 possible seats in Scotland and the Tories still get in then I give up all hope of Scotland ever having a voice in the UK.
The SNP would be the third largest party in Westminster with about 9% of the seats, representing approx. 9% of the UK population. However they were not elected by that 9% of the UK population. The only Scots denied a voice will be those who did not vote SNP. FPTP has to go.
ballengeich
07-05-2015, 09:58 PM
The vast majority of YouGov polls are nothing to do with politics.
That doesn't invalidate my point that their population is unlikely to be a random sample if they rely on regulars.
JeMeSouviens
07-05-2015, 10:03 PM
To be fair, if the UK votes to leave the EU, I think that would be enough for another referendum. I'll campaign and vote for Scottish independence myself if it happens.
Ouch! You made me fall off my sofa. :-(
Hiber-nation
07-05-2015, 10:07 PM
To be fair, if the UK votes to leave the EU, I think that would be enough for another referendum. I'll campaign and vote for Scottish independence myself if it happens.
Admins, stick that post in the archives :wink:
Absolutely.
239 + 58 doesn't equal 326. It doesn't even equal 316.
Labour have lost this across the board not just in Scotland.
Looks like the LibDem vote collapsing. The winner will be the party that gains most from that once UKIP have had their share. UKIP did rather well in Sunderland (again).
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