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DTS
04-05-2015, 10:21 PM
wondering if anyone else has seen this non story they are trying to run clearly about Jason Cummings as he was seen at the party it's been all over Twitter tonight

portyhibernian
04-05-2015, 10:23 PM
I just seen this aswell mate, hopefully nothing in it.

Dunbar Hibee
04-05-2015, 10:25 PM
Don't believe it. Not him. (That is alleged to have had sex with the minor)

Centre Hawf
04-05-2015, 10:26 PM
Apparently some under age girl has been filmed having sex at a party and it was put on Instagram. Lot of folk saying it was him in the video, others saying he was just at the party that it happened. Hopefully nothing in it on Jasons part.

DTS
04-05-2015, 10:27 PM
It's a complete non story, yeah he probably shouldn't have been at the party but it was a huge party and just because he got a picture there he's getting it in the neck. Hun papers trying to unnerve hibs already

TheMentalHibees
04-05-2015, 10:28 PM
Not even confirmed we're playing the huns yet and the media have already begin the "unsettle hibs" propaganda :rolleyes:

SunshineOnLeith
04-05-2015, 10:29 PM
Wondered what Sam Nicholson's tweet was about, sounds like standard tabloid nonsense.

cabbageandribs1875
04-05-2015, 10:35 PM
no one mentioned the ****boid briber yet, 4k :giruy2: bolt ya divi

Salt N Sauzee
04-05-2015, 10:37 PM
I posted this story earlier today but the admin deleted it.... I suppose now that it's a daily record story that it is deemed as acceptable content?!:confused:

Probably just the same situation as the McDonalds story - wrong place, wrong time with no actual involvement in the incident itself.

QMU-1875
04-05-2015, 10:40 PM
He hasn't done anything, going by twitter from people who were there he was at a party and lots of people turned up later some of them were 15, can't expect him to know there age/leave. He also isn't in the video that got made. Hopefully who ever made it and who ever thought it was a good idea to post it on Instagram get caught. By all accounts this is a total non story

Bronson
04-05-2015, 11:00 PM
It's quite clear it's not Jason in the picture. If that article even hints that it is then it's nothing short of slander.

Cabbage7062
04-05-2015, 11:05 PM
Wasn't him in the video from what it looks like on social media. Hopefuy they get there facts right if he didn't play any part in it. In the future I recommend the lad selects his company a bit more wisely. Mates are mates but if his are doing that at parties then they will hold his promising career back.

matty_f
04-05-2015, 11:09 PM
Is this going to be like the time he started a riot in McDonalds, the papers ran a story then it turned out he didn't after all?

Some of the press in this country are beyond contempt, but then, going by what's apparently happened at this party, so are some of the people in this county.

Disgusting and sordid, whichever way you look at it, I just hope that Jason's had the sense to stay out of it.

Diclonius
04-05-2015, 11:12 PM
It's quite clear it's not Jason in the picture. If that article even hints that it's then it's nothing short of slander.

Doesn't matter - if the required objective of unsettling Rangers' primary obstacle to promotion's top scorer is achieved then the damage is done. They can squirm out of it later.

Hibbyradge
04-05-2015, 11:30 PM
It's quite clear it's not Jason in the picture. If that article even hints that it's then it's nothing short of slander.

It wouldn't be slander.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
04-05-2015, 11:32 PM
He's done nowt wrong. Honestly feel sorry for the lad.

lyonhibs
04-05-2015, 11:37 PM
Is, or is that not him in that photo ?

silverhibee
04-05-2015, 11:39 PM
Jane Hamilton, say's it all.

Bitch.

Unseen work
04-05-2015, 11:53 PM
100% is jc in that photo.

Have no idea about anything else though. A photo means nothing.

Bronson
05-05-2015, 12:19 AM
It wouldn't be slander.

I'd say publicly accusing someone of a criminal offence (especially one of that magnitude) in a tabloid newspaper would constitute as slander.

Provided it's not true, that is.

Shrekko
05-05-2015, 12:24 AM
I'd say publicly accusing someone of a criminal offence (especially one of that magnitude) in a tabloid newspaper would constitute as slander.

Provided it's not true, that is.

Slander is a spoken/oral defamation and isn't part of Scots common law either.

I'm not being pedantic btw- just backing up why Hibbyradge is presumably making the point.

Centre Hawf
05-05-2015, 12:28 AM
Slander is a spoken/oral defamation and isn't part of Scots common law either.

I'm not being pedantic btw- just backing up why Hibbyradge is presumably making the point.

I believe this comes under libel?

Tinribs
05-05-2015, 12:29 AM
I posted this story earlier today but the admin deleted it.... I suppose now that it's a daily record story that it is deemed as acceptable content?!:confused:

Probably just the same situation as the McDonalds story - wrong place, wrong time with no actual involvement in the incident itself.

I saw that aye. The Daily Record seems to win the day, no idea why though ffs.

But as for the story, JC was there, but no interaction with the young lass. Lots of support to that view on Twitter etc.

Pete
05-05-2015, 12:38 AM
This criminal act has absolutely nothing to do with Jason and it's totally irrelevant if he was at the same party.

...and so bloody what if some teenage girls had their picture taken with him. Anyone linking that photo to any wrongdoing whatsoever had better watch it.

People say he should watch who he hangs out with but he can't control everything that happens wherever he is involving people he probably doesn't even know.

Shrekko
05-05-2015, 02:08 AM
I believe this comes under libel?

In Scotland it's just 'defamation' regardless of how it's communicated.

Viva_Palmeiras
05-05-2015, 05:48 AM
It wouldn't be slander.

Can I get that in writing?

funny I was going to post that In the run up there would be some "event" concocted or otherwise and its up to US not to bite. Everything else is a sideshow the main event - well if you don't know what that is well... I'm glad the admins took the original posting down - until something like this is backed up it really would be silly season. Ah the delights of social media whipped up (no pun intendrd It wasnt a BBC presented or Tory) by the "journalists" (I use the term loosely)

Hibee87
05-05-2015, 06:25 AM
Firstly, are the 2 pictures linked? Is pic 1 the same story ss pic 2?.
Secondly, lool at cummings hair. Im sure uts a lot more blonde and longer up top, and has been for a number of weeks. So how old is this picture?
Lastly, who sent rmthe tweet? Having a look at tge reply button it says reply to 'guthie' is there not a guthie in the youth set up who has merely tweeted this as a joke to jason?

CallumLaidlaw
05-05-2015, 06:35 AM
The key part in the full article is -

he Record has chosen not to name the sportsmen, as we understand they were unaware of any illicit sexual activity.

Just Alf
05-05-2015, 06:47 AM
The problem JC has is that most of his pals are Hearts supporters, that's ok normally, but when he goes to a party or similar then the issue is that THEIR mates are not HIS mates and unfortunately, like the world over there's always ********s looking to make trouble, bit like the Yam muffin thrower who thought it was funny at the time..... Really sad, especially as some "Hibs" fans seem to assume the worse by default regardless of reality.

Does seem to be a lot of Yam involvement in recent times though, maybe they've taken over from the now defunct Rangers? :confused:

Winston Ingram
05-05-2015, 06:55 AM
Clearly part of the Weegia's plan to #gettyerangerstothepremier

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 07:01 AM
The problem JC has is that most of his pals are Hearts supporters, that's ok normally, but when he goes to a party or similar then the issue is that THEIR mates are not HIS mates and unfortunately, like the world over there's always ********s looking to make trouble, bit like the Yam muffin thrower who thought it was funny at the time..... Really sad, especially as some "Hibs" fans seem to assume the worse by default regardless of reality.

Does seem to be a lot of Yam involvement in recent times though, maybe they've taken over from the now defunct Rangers? :confused:

Not seeing condemnation on here or anything else that is assuming the worst:confused:

Equally, does it matter who the pals of his pals are, Jamboid or otherwise. He has to navigate his way through life being a young, successful, footballer. He will come into contact with all kinds of people and all he needs worry about is his own conduct, not how to screen him from the wider world.

CB_NO3
05-05-2015, 07:08 AM
I don't know what is worse? That terrible story or the fact a group of guys call themselves the flame gang haha.

Just Alf
05-05-2015, 07:12 AM
Not seeing condemnation on here or anything else that is assuming the worst:confused:

Equally, does it matter who the pals of his pals are, Jamboid or otherwise. He has to navigate his way through life being a young, successful, footballer. He will come into contact with all kinds of people and all he needs worry about is his own conduct, not how to screen him from the wider world.

Bit in bold is more general, not specifically on here, and the rest, I agree but he does need to understand that in some groups he'll be more exposed than others.... It's the nature of celebrity tied in with rivalry I guess?

Stuarty27
05-05-2015, 07:37 AM
What has Jason got to do with this, joke of a story

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 07:43 AM
Muffin to see here, move on.

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 07:56 AM
What has Jason got to do with this, joke of a story


Nothing whatsoever, so I'm struggling to see where the OP gets the connection from



:confused:

spike220
05-05-2015, 08:02 AM
Nothing whatsoever, so I'm struggling to see where the OP gets the connection from



:confused:

I know where it came from I have met these kinda folk before:

*Admin edit* Link not appropriate for family forum

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 08:09 AM
Nothing whatsoever, so I'm struggling to see where the OP gets the connection from



:confused:

:agree:

"The Record has chosen not to name the sportsmen, as we understand they were unaware of any illicit sexual activity."

Also note the use of the plural.

J-C
05-05-2015, 08:09 AM
Jason needs to start making better choices in life, he has bags of potential but all that potential will be lost if he keeps making these bad choices in friends and in life. We've already seen two cracking players from Hibs waste there careers GOC with the coke and Deek with his up town nonsense at clubs, we don't want to see another potential great player doing the same for the sake of a party or a wee bit fun.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 08:17 AM
Jason needs to start making better choices in life, he has bags of potential but all that potential will be lost if he keeps making these bad choices in friends and in life. We've already seen two cracking players from Hibs waste there careers GOC with the coke and Deek with his up town nonsense at clubs, we don't want to see another potential great player doing the same for the sake of a party or a wee bit fun.

I've been invited to my niece's wedding. I understand there may be underage girls and Hearts supporters present.

Should I make a better life choice and decline the invitation?

Peevemor
05-05-2015, 08:18 AM
I've been invited to my niece's wedding. I understand there may be underage girls and Hearts supporters present.

Should I make a better life choice and decline the invitation?


I think you should consider binning your pervie family. :agree:

J-C
05-05-2015, 08:22 AM
I've been invited to my niece's wedding. I understand there may be underage girls and Hearts supporters present.

Should I make a better life choice and decline the invitation?



Deary me what a way to twist my words eh?

We're talking about choices like going to a party crammed with loads of guys and girls all probably around the ages of 16-21 and going out with his daft mates and allowing himself to be there when they start a muffin fight in McD's in the early hours of the morning.

In future please answer my posts as they were intended and not in a way you can twist them for your own agenda. :confused:

Salt N Sauzee
05-05-2015, 08:22 AM
I've been invited to my niece's wedding. I understand there may be underage girls and Hearts supporters present.

Should I make a better life choice and decline the invitation?


Perhaps a bit over the top there fella.

Can see the point J-C is trying to make.

This isn't the first time Cummings has had his name dragged through the mud because of his mates behaviour. Needs to remember that he is in the public eye now and whether he was involved or not just him being at the event is enough for the press to pounce on him

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 08:26 AM
Perhaps a bit over the top there fella.

Can see the point J-C is trying to make.

This isn't the first time Cummings has had his name dragged through the mud because of his mates behaviour. Needs to remember that he is in the public eye now and whether he was involved or not just him being at the event is enough for the press to pounce on him

They haven't pounced on him, though.

"The Record has chosen not to name the sportsmen, as we understand they were unaware of any illicit sexual activity."

Hibernia&Alba
05-05-2015, 08:28 AM
Seriously, why is this thread still open?

Salt N Sauzee
05-05-2015, 08:29 AM
They haven't pounced on him, though.

"The Record has chosen not to name the sportsmen, as we understand they were unaware of any illicit sexual activity."


Have a look at the bottom of the article though, they're not exactly hiding his identity when the give away key details of the tweets involved etc.

Doesn't make it hard for anyone to go on twitter and find out exactly who the person in question is.

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 08:31 AM
Have a look at the bottom of the article though, they're not exactly hiding his identity when the give away key details of the tweets involved etc.

Doesn't make it hard for anyone to go on twitter and find out exactly who the person in question is.

Plural.

Again.... the Records says that they understand that they were unaware of any illicit activity.

Diclonius
05-05-2015, 08:32 AM
They haven't pounced on him, though.

"The Record has chosen not to name the sportsmen, as we understand they were unaware of any illicit sexual activity."

Who's the other sportsman?

CallumLaidlaw
05-05-2015, 08:34 AM
Who's the other sportsman?

A boxer apparently. Yet his name seems not to have been mentioned on twitter.

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 08:35 AM
Who's the other sportsman?

Does it matter? He wasn't involved. :wink:

ian cruise
05-05-2015, 08:37 AM
Not seeing condemnation on here or anything else that is assuming the worst:confused:

Equally, does it matter who the pals of his pals are, Jamboid or otherwise. He has to navigate his way through life being a young, successful, footballer. He will come into contact with all kinds of people and all he needs worry about is his own conduct, not how to screen him from the wider world.

I don't think the post was saying there was anything wrong with his pals being yams, more that any company they keep are likely yams too who don't know Jason and are therefore happy to run to social media and/or the press with these stories even though he's not directly involved in the incident.

Salt N Sauzee
05-05-2015, 08:56 AM
Plural.

Again.... the Records says that they understand that they were unaware of any illicit activity.


beside the point.

DTS
05-05-2015, 08:57 AM
A boxer apparently. Yet his name seems not to have been mentioned on twitter.

The other sportsman is a boxer who is Jason's friend can't remember his name right now but he was tweeting about it all last night, I started the thread as it was clear that the daily record were trying to make a story out of nothing to unnerve Jason. The two pictures are connected as the photo of Jason is at the party which is how people know he was there

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 08:59 AM
beside the point.


Why is it beside the point? Do you believe in 'guilt by association'?


Breaking news on 'who killed JFK'... everybody in the vicinity at the time were apparently guilty, just by being there.

Salt N Sauzee
05-05-2015, 09:06 AM
Why is it beside the point? Do you believe in 'guilt by association'?


Breaking news on 'who killed JFK'... everybody in the vicinity at the time were apparently guilty, just by being there.


I'm not blaming JC for anything. Have you even read my input?

All I said was he needs to be more careful with who he surrounds himself with as these people have got a knack for dragging his name through the mud. Plus the fact he has his photo taken with said under-agers doesn't do himself any favours.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:08 AM
Deary me what a way to twist my words eh?

We're talking about choices like going to a party crammed with loads of guys and girls all probably around the ages of 16-21 and going out with his daft mates and allowing himself to be there when they start a muffin fight in McD's in the early hours of the morning.

In future please answer my posts as they were intended and not in a way you can twist them for your own agenda. :confused:

Agenda???? :wtf:

He's a 19 year old laddie going to a party with people his age.

It's perfectly appropriate for him to be doing that.

Just as it's appropriate for me to be going to my niece's wedding.

I'll answer posts according to how I perceive them. How am I supposed to know how a post is intended? Crystal ball?

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:09 AM
Perhaps a bit over the top there fella.

Can see the point J-C is trying to make.

This isn't the first time Cummings has had his name dragged through the mud because of his mates behaviour. Needs to remember that he is in the public eye now and whether he was involved or not just him being at the event is enough for the press to pounce on him

It's the folk on this thread who sit in judgement on him that have done the pouncing!

madhatter
05-05-2015, 09:11 AM
Story is: Jason has to be a bit more careful as a young man.

Not just because he is soon to lose his teenage status (in few months) but also because he is role model and in for some media attention. You hear during half time entertainment the number of kids that answer with "Jason Cummings" when asked who their favourite player is...Be a better role model Jase.

Nothing to do with a crime or guilt because I don't know much apart from him being there. However if the picture suggests anything, he stayed at a party where you can easily identify there was underage girls in attendance. Once again, not suggesting any wrongdoing just very ill-advised to remain there considering his status but also in general.

These role models even at Hibs get paid well enough to "screw the heed" for 15 years while they are a pro. If they are smart with their cash they can retire in their 40s. I like Jason, his interviews are quite entertaining but he needs to sort out some of his involvement in off field garbage.

J-C
05-05-2015, 09:20 AM
It's the folk on this thread who sit in judgement on him that have done the pouncing!


No one is pouncing ffs, we are all saying that Jason has to start taking more care where he goes and who he is going with, the social media nowadays is such that it is virtually impossible for guys like Jason to be incognito when he goes out socialising, he has to start thinking this way or the papers etc will keep on hounding him till they get exactly what they want.

We all know he wasn't involved in this incident or even at McD's but he's put himself in the situation where he can be implemented, all about choices and Jason's aren't very clever at the moment.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:30 AM
No one is pouncing ffs, we are all saying that Jason has to start taking more care where he goes and who he is going with, the social media nowadays is such that it is virtually impossible for guys like Jason to be incognito when he goes out socialising, he has to start thinking this way or the papers etc will keep on hounding him till they get exactly what they want.

We all know he wasn't involved in this incident or even at McD's but he's put himself in the situation where he can be implemented, all about choices and Jason's aren't very clever at the moment.

I know why you're saying that, but I don't think we can expect the boy to give up his mates and his usual fun, and continue to be happy and perform at the top of his game.

As long as he does nothing wrong, he should be free to go about his normal business.

He'll move on when the time is right, when he matures naturally.

Smartie
05-05-2015, 09:33 AM
I'm normally pretty critical of players getting into bother off the field. The "George Street" stuff over the past few years really got on my nerves, Latapy's "antics, GOC and Riordan's shenanigans etc.

I can't see much wrong in what Cummings is getting up to. The biggest thing I think he is guilty of of is naivety in a tricky social media age where he is probably surrounded by *****-stirrers.

Food fight at McDonalds - hardly the crime of the century.

Didn't about 95% of us go to teenage parties where there would be people of various ages there, underage drinking, people disappearing into rooms and doing god knows what in them?

The filming and instagram stuff is disgraceful and if a complaint is made then those involved should be punished. But it is ludicrous to tarnish everyone else at the party because that happened.

He's 19 - we can't just expect him to stay in the house the whole time.

J-C
05-05-2015, 09:41 AM
I know why you're saying that, but I don't think we can expect the boy to give up his mates and his usual fun, and continue to be happy and perform at the top of his game.

As long as he does nothing wrong, he should be free to go about his normal business.

He'll move on when the time is right, when he matures naturally.


Aye cause that worked out well for Deek, these young guys have to realise that life has changed for them and they are no longer the 17 yr old apprentice playing at Hibs who nobody knows, he's well known and a celebrity now and as such has to be more careful what he does, going to a crammed party full of very young drunken girls and guys was not a great choice, he needs to grow up quickly.

Northernhibee
05-05-2015, 09:42 AM
I hate to say it but he's a professional athlete in the public eye. Like it or not if you want to fulfill your potential that will limit your life choices to some extent. That's not to say that you can't hang around with friends but posing for photos at boozy house parties isn't the wisest thing to do. It just takes one media guy with a grudge to twist things into an entirely new story and it leaves you wide open to stories like this one, even if he had no involvement in the headline there will be people who don't read the full story, put two and two together and get five.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:48 AM
Aye cause that worked out well for Deek, these young guys have to realise that life has changed for them and they are no longer the 17 yr old apprentice playing at Hibs who nobody knows, he's well known and a celebrity now and as such has to be more careful what he does, going to a crammed party full of very young drunken girls and guys was not a great choice, he needs to grow up quickly.

It didn't do George Best much harm. :wink:

I accept social media changes things, but we can't expect boys to give up their lives entirely when they become footballers.

Jason has done nothing wrong. Maybe Stubbs will tell him to be a bit more aware, and to walk away if things start to get wild, but I doubt he'll tell him to avoid parties etc.

If things start to get wild at my niece's wedding, it'll probably be me that's behind it! :greengrin

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:48 AM
even if he had no involvement in the headline there will be people who don't read the full story, put two and two together and get five.

So what?

Northernhibee
05-05-2015, 09:56 AM
So what?

If you look at the way the rumours started on Twitter, some might look at the headline and fail to read the story and come to conclusions. Not everyone will get as far as the "no involvement" line.

The point is that if he doesn't screw the nut soon and start to think "As a pro athlete in the public eye is it a good idea for me to be here" if a party starts to get a bit he might develop an unfair reputation just out of association, unfair as that might be or otherwise and it might just even affect him in becoming the best footballer he can be.

It's not that fair but life seldom is.

dangermouse
05-05-2015, 09:58 AM
Most people on here seem to be missing the point (according to the Record article) that a 15 year old girl has been humiliated on Social Media and that some 20 year old should shortly be on the sex offenders register.

Unseen work
05-05-2015, 09:59 AM
I'm not getting this whole "jc has to be more careful" rubbish.

He went to a house party with his mates, and by the sounds of it done nothing wrong. Someone at the party had sex with a underage girl.

Jase might of not known about this till the next day. It doesn't matter where he goes there is always a chance something could happen. You can't stop a young lad for going out altogether, on both occasion (this and muffin) it sounds like he done nothing wrong and it was the people he was with.

Getting a photo means nothing. There will be hundreds of girls under 15 at ER that would want a photo with him, should he decline? I bet if a story came out that jc was refusing to have photos with people there would be uproar about that

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 09:59 AM
If you look at the way the rumours started on Twitter, some might look at the headline and fail to read the story and come to conclusions. Not everyone will get as far as the "no involvement" line.



We should ignore people like that. They have no influence over anything.

Northernhibee
05-05-2015, 10:06 AM
[QUOTE=Hibbyradge;4365897]We should ignore people like that. They have no influence over anything.[/QUOTE

Here's the issue - it's far easier to convince someone about a lie than it is that they have been lied to. There are far too many people who have a "no smoke without fire" mentality and as unfair as it is as he had no involvement with what happened in the headline at all there will be a few people who will still peddle the conspiracy just because they don't like Jase or or club.

Andy74
05-05-2015, 10:09 AM
Most people on here seem to be missing the point (according to the Record article) that a 15 year old girl has been humiliated on Social Media and that some 20 year old should shortly be on the sex offenders register.

This is a Hibs forum though and that 'news' has nothing to do with us.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 10:11 AM
[QUOTE=Hibbyradge;4365897]We should ignore people like that. They have no influence over anything.[/QUOTE

Here's the issue - it's far easier to convince someone about a lie than it is that they have been lied to. There are far too many people who have a "no smoke without fire" mentality and as unfair as it is as he had no involvement with what happened in the headline at all there will be a few people who will still peddle the conspiracy just because they don't like Jase or or club.

You're right.

For example, there are people on here who still peddle the myth that Farmer and Petrie are taking money out of the club.

Folk like that should be ignored, not pandered to.

Jason should go about his business as normal. He should be sensible and behave properly.

He shouldn't live his life worrying about people he can't ever please.

RoxburghHibs
05-05-2015, 10:22 AM
Wondered what Sam Nicholson's tweet was about, sounds like standard tabloid nonsense.

So is the "blackmail" tweet from Sam Nicholson or am I reading this wrong?

Salt N Sauzee
05-05-2015, 10:28 AM
So is the "blackmail" tweet from Sam Nicholson or am I reading this wrong?


Na. The Blackmail Tweet was from a wee nyaff that contained a photo of JC and 3 youngsters saying he wanted 4k or he'd "tell Hibs he was drinking with Under-agers".

The tweet from Nicholson said something along the lines of "just let the laddie play his football rather than making up stories"

RoxburghHibs
05-05-2015, 10:43 AM
Na. The Blackmail Tweet was from a wee nyaff that contained a photo of JC and 3 youngsters saying he wanted 4k or he'd "tell Hibs he was drinking with Under-agers".

The tweet from Nicholson said something along the lines of "just let the laddie play his football rather than making up stories"

Good to hear 👍

Dashing Bob S
05-05-2015, 10:50 AM
As a professional sportsman, Cummings should have ascertained the ages of all his fellow party-goers, then thrown out the underage ones, not just the 15 year olds who might have had sex, but also any 17 year olds who could have been planning on drinking.

He should also have gathered up all recording devices and kept them under lock and key, re-issuing them when the party ended.

Shocking lack of maturity for a 19 year old.

Chuck Rhoades
05-05-2015, 10:50 AM
Most people on here seem to be missing the point (according to the Record article) that a 15 year old girl has been humiliated on Social Media and that some 20 year old should shortly be on the sex offenders register.

The boy in question is 17.

If she lied about her age and appeared to be in full control does that make it acceptable? I'm not sure, but cannot draw any comparison to Saville of the likes.

Pretty Boy
05-05-2015, 10:57 AM
The boy in question is 17.

If she lied about her age and appeared to be in full control does that make it acceptable? I'm not sure, but cannot draw any comparison to Saville of the likes.

I'd imagine regardless of whether she lied about her age or otherwise it would fall under the umberella of statutory rape. A minor is legally incapable of giving consent.

IWASTHERE1902
05-05-2015, 11:02 AM
Keep these stories coming. Assuming it's not true and assuming Jason is big enough to brush it off then all it will do is help create a siege mentality within the squad. All the better when we stick it right up them.

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 11:07 AM
As a professional sportsman, Cummings should have ascertained the ages of all his fellow party-goers, then thrown out the underage ones, not just the 15 year olds who might have had sex, but also any 17 year olds who could have been planning on drinking.

He should also have gathered up all recording devices and kept them under lock and key, re-issuing them when the party ended.

Shocking lack of maturity for a 19 year old.

I would go a step further. He should undertake vows and enter a Shaolin monastery, henceforth dedicating himself to the way of the Hibernian warrior. Jason will still attend training and other functions associated with being a footballer. However, he will renounce friends, the burden of the Burdz and henceforth will donate 95% of his salary to spiritual causes in the name of personal development. He will also be required to rid himself of that ridiculous, flamboyant and affected hairstyle and dress in unbranded robes when not wearing footy kit. Blah, blah...... Hair shirt and prickly y fronts, blah, blah....save him from the fates of the Riordan etc, etc, moral guardian, blah, role model and blah, corrupting influence on all our children, blah , blah. The devils work.

Bostonhibby
05-05-2015, 11:09 AM
I would go a step further. He should undertake vows and enter a Shaolin monastery, henceforth dedicating himself to the way of the Hibernian warrior. Jason will still attend training and other functions associated with being a footballer. However, he will renounce friends, the burden of the Burdz and henceforth will donate 95% of his salary to spiritual causes in the name of personal development. He will also be required to rid himself of that ridiculous, flamboyant and affected hairstyle and dress in unbranded robes when not wearing footy kit. Blah, blah...... Hair shirt and prickly y fronts, blah, blah....save him from the fates of the Riordan etc, etc, moral guardian, blah, role model and blah, corrupting influence on all our children, blah , blah. The devils work.

:agree: Should probably only eat turnips as well, a bit of penance never done anyone any harm.

lord bunberry
05-05-2015, 11:11 AM
:agree: Should probably only eat turnips as well, a bit of penance never done anyone any harm.
I quite like turnips.

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 11:14 AM
:agree: Should probably only eat turnips as well, a bit of penance never done anyone any harm.


Dunno about the Penance but Turnips give me terrible Flatulence, so maybe best avoided.


Although it would keep the Burdz away.

Andy74
05-05-2015, 11:16 AM
I'd imagine regardless of whether she lied about her age or otherwise it would fall under the umberella of statutory rape. A minor is legally incapable of giving consent.

Not really. A 17 year old having consensual sex with a 15 year old is highly unlikely to be prosecuted.

13 and under there is no question that consent could ever be given but over that there is some defence. There is also some defence if you had reasonable grounds to think they were over 16. If you are under 18 you will also be treated pretty leniently.

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 11:19 AM
I'd imagine regardless of whether she lied about her age or otherwise it would fall under the umberella of statutory rape. A minor is legally incapable of giving consent.


Actually it's highly unlikely that the Police/Courts would take any action, if the guy is also very young.


Years ago, one of our neighbour's kids got pregnant at 15 and the Parents wanted the Father (a 16 y/o) arrested but the Police said it was pointless, given his age and the fact it was consensual.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 11:20 AM
I would go a step further. He should undertake vows and enter a Shaolin monastery, henceforth dedicating himself to the way of the Hibernian warrior. Jason will still attend training and other functions associated with being a footballer. However, he will renounce friends, the burden of the Burdz and henceforth will donate 95% of his salary to spiritual causes in the name of personal development. He will also be required to rid himself of that ridiculous, flamboyant and affected hairstyle and dress in unbranded robes when not wearing footy kit. Blah, blah...... Hair shirt and prickly y fronts, blah, blah....save him from the fates of the Riordan etc, etc, moral guardian, blah, role model and blah, corrupting influence on all our children, blah , blah. The devils work.

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but I don't agree with quite a lot of that.

IWASTHERE1902
05-05-2015, 11:24 AM
I don't know if you're being serious or not, but I don't agree with quite a lot of that.

I agree with the haircut bit. Bad influence for kids - my son is already talking about getting a Jason. Jeez what kind of bowl do I need to use the give him one like that.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 11:26 AM
I agree with the haircut bit. Bad influence for kids - my son is already talking about getting a Jason. Jeez what kind of bowl do I need to use the give him one like that.

That's one of the bits I'm fundilymundily opposed to.

Bostonhibby
05-05-2015, 11:29 AM
I quite like turnips.


Dunno about the Penance but Turnips give me terrible Flatulence, so maybe best avoided.


Although it would keep the Burdz away.

Make it Swedes then?

Turnips or Swedes?

Maybe we could get the daily ****** to do an investigation special on the relationship between these two vegetables?

1van Sprou7e
05-05-2015, 11:31 AM
I don't know if you're being serious or not, but I don't agree with quite a lot of that.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you gavin mate

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 11:32 AM
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you gavin mate

:faf:

Edit: Now that I've composed myself after all that hilarity, who is Gavin?

Sir David Gray
05-05-2015, 11:34 AM
If it's the case that Jason Cummings was simply present at a house where a 15 year old female had sex with someone and he had no other involvement then I fail to see what the problem is.

Why should he be held responsible for the actions of other people. He can't put his life on hold in the event that other people who are with him might do something wrong.

madhatter
05-05-2015, 11:41 AM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done. I hope the very same people are on-hand should his career go the same way as Riordan and O'Connor. Can't understand why a 19 year old is attending a party with 15 year olds anyway to be honest unless it is relatives or family friends.

When I was 19, hanging out with those younger was not very cool firstly but also we weren't like-minded so conversations and the like didn't go down very well. Just to clarify, I'm not much older than Cummings. For a guy who has worked so hard to get a footballing career, he really should be focusing more on football. Everyone is allowed their downtime but some people on here seem to suggest how he chooses to relax shouldn't really matter as long as he plays well...

He will never reach the highest echelons of football with the mentality he clearly seems to have. Possibly people are happy with that because he'll likely be at Hibs for a while. I, for one, would like to see more players that stay behind at training and don't get caught up in this sort of thing. What could Riordan and O'Connor have been if they applied themselves properly? Who knows. At least they got to blow off some steam often though, eh?

high bee
05-05-2015, 11:47 AM
Who's to say he didn't turn up at the party, have a few lassies pounce on him at the door and say "we're Hibs fans, can we get a pic with you?"
Then perhaps he saw it was a bit too crazy a party so he decided to leave? I'm not saying this did or didn't happen but I think all this he has to be more careful stuff is potentially harsh. How can anyone say he was or wasn't careful, he's perfectly entitled to go to a party.

One thing is for sure, he didn't do anything wrong at Mcds the other month but his name was dragged through the coals. He had no way to know his drunk mates would start throwing muffins, it's not his actions. It's certainly unfair to say he should choose his mates better, we all have mates that have surprised us with their actions in the past.

I will start worrying when it's him that's up to no good, I refuse to join the guilty by association crowd. I know how it will look to outsiders who don't read it all but he can't stay indoors all the time.

silverhibee
05-05-2015, 11:49 AM
Aye cause that worked out well for Deek, these young guys have to realise that life has changed for them and they are no longer the 17 yr old apprentice playing at Hibs who nobody knows, he's well known and a celebrity now and as such has to be more careful what he does, going to a crammed party full of very young drunken girls and guys was not a great choice, he needs to grow up quickly.

Behave eh, he is a young lad enjoying himself, and quite right as well, are you saying the lad should give up going out and drop his mates just because he plays football and not have some fun in his life.

As far as we know the lad has done nothing wrong apart from go to a party, and you think he is making wrong choices and needs to grow up, FFS he is a young lad and that's what young lads do, they go out and enjoy them selfs and end up at parties.

Peevemor
05-05-2015, 11:50 AM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done. I hope the very same people are on-hand should his career go the same way as Riordan and O'Connor. Can't understand why a 19 year old is attending a party with 15 year olds anyway to be honest unless it is relatives or family friends.

When I was 19, hanging out with those younger was not very cool firstly but also we weren't like-minded so conversations and the like didn't go down very well. Just to clarify, I'm not much older than Cummings. For a guy who has worked so hard to get a footballing career, he really should be focusing more on football. Everyone is allowed their downtime but some people on here seem to suggest how he chooses to relax shouldn't really matter as long as he plays well...

He will never reach the highest echelons of football with the mentality he clearly seems to have. Possibly people are happy with that because he'll likely be at Hibs for a while. I, for one, would like to see more players that stay behind at training and don't get caught up in this sort of thing. What could Riordan and O'Connor have been if they applied themselves properly? Who knows. At least they got to blow off some steam often though, eh?

What a lot of nonsense!

When I were a lad, "house parties" were often attended by people from 14 - 30 years old - it depended on the occassion.

And what mentality does he clearly seem to have? I can't recall a single story/rumour of him being blootered. He's 19, he has mates of a similar age and some of them might do daft things.

From what I can see he's physically on form and is developing/maturing well as a player.

Keep it up Jason!

Thecat23
05-05-2015, 11:51 AM
He's attended a party which the host as allowed 15 year old girls in. This has nothing to do with Jason himself bar getting a picture taken with them which every footballer does when a group of girls ask for a pic.

It's a non story unless he has actually committed a crime in which the club will then take the right steps and deal with him. Until then he's done nothing wrong!

Bostonhibby
05-05-2015, 11:53 AM
Behave eh, he is a young lad enjoying himself, and quite right as well, are you saying the lad should give up going out and drop his mates just because he plays football and not have some fun in his life.

As far as we know the lad has done nothing wrong apart from go to a party, and you think he is making wrong choices and needs to grow up, FFS he is a young lad and that's what young lads do, they go out and enjoy them selfs and end up at parties.

:agree: This - poking some fun at the comic style of reporting of the daily ****** is where its at for now.

Kato
05-05-2015, 11:59 AM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done.

What has he done?

madhatter
05-05-2015, 12:01 PM
What a lot of nonsense!

When I were a lad, "house parties" were often attended by people from 14 - 30 years old - it depended on the occassion.

And what mentality does he clearly seem to have? I can't recall a single story/rumour of him being blootered. He's 19, he has mates of a similar age and some of them might do daft things.

From what I can see he's physically on form and is developing/maturing well as a player.

Keep it up Jason!

We'll see where his career goes won't we. He also isn't a lad - he is a man.

madhatter
05-05-2015, 12:04 PM
What has he done?

He is linked to a story that isn't on the back pages, it is not a positive story. He is also a professional footballer at Hibernian FC (a representative of the club).

As far as I can see, he has done nothing wrong in a legal perspective but I'll leave it up to the club how they deal with it internally.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:05 PM
He is linked to a story that isn't on the back pages, it is not a positive story. He is also a professional footballer at Hibernian FC (a representative of the club).

As far as I can see, he has done nothing wrong in a legal perspective but I'll leave it up to the club how they deal with it internally.

What have the club got to deal with? :confused:

madhatter
05-05-2015, 12:07 PM
What have the club got to deal with? :confused:

What the club see fit, not you or I, or anybody else on this forum.

duffers
05-05-2015, 12:09 PM
So it looks like he has turned up to a house party and done absolutely nothing wrong. total non story. But no doubt we will be hearing more stories like this if Rangers manage to beat QotS.

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 12:12 PM
He is linked to a story that isn't on the back pages, it is not a positive story. He is also a professional footballer at Hibernian FC (a representative of the club).

As far as I can see, he has done nothing wrong in a legal perspective but I'll leave it up to the club how they deal with it internally.

They should flog him mercilessly, tie an elastic band around his tackle and send him to the wall. I personally don't care how innocent he is, it's another outrage on the good name of Scottish football and if that thespian pretendy bi-sexual oaf Cosgrove ever gets round to updating his Hampden Babylon then he'll be sure to devote a chapter to our collective unconscious and genetic Hibernian inheritance. It must be down to our Irish roots, the ghost of Canon Hannan should be summoned up by the outage board and compelled to perform acts of ritual purification upon him. I would personally join him in any such act and would, unlike some softies on here, ENJOY it.

Andy74
05-05-2015, 12:12 PM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done. I hope the very same people are on-hand should his career go the same way as Riordan and O'Connor. Can't understand why a 19 year old is attending a party with 15 year olds anyway to be honest unless it is relatives or family friends.

When I was 19, hanging out with those younger was not very cool firstly but also we weren't like-minded so conversations and the like didn't go down very well. Just to clarify, I'm not much older than Cummings. For a guy who has worked so hard to get a footballing career, he really should be focusing more on football. Everyone is allowed their downtime but some people on here seem to suggest how he chooses to relax shouldn't really matter as long as he plays well...

He will never reach the highest echelons of football with the mentality he clearly seems to have. Possibly people are happy with that because he'll likely be at Hibs for a while. I, for one, would like to see more players that stay behind at training and don't get caught up in this sort of thing. What could Riordan and O'Connor have been if they applied themselves properly? Who knows. At least they got to blow off some steam often though, eh?

Nonsense from top to bottom.

Pretty Boy
05-05-2015, 12:14 PM
Not really. A 17 year old having consensual sex with a 15 year old is highly unlikely to be prosecuted.

13 and under there is no question that consent could ever be given but over that there is some defence. There is also some defence if you had reasonable grounds to think they were over 16. If you are under 18 you will also be treated pretty leniently.

I agree prosecution is unlikely in such a case.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:16 PM
What the club see fit, not you or I, or anybody else on this forum.

:hilarious

Instead of jumping on the bandwagon of criticism aimed at Jason Cummings, people should feel some sympathy towards him for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Unless players stay in all week, they are going to be in the presence of people. People get up to all sorts of things.

I once saw a guy doing cocaine in the toilets of a top restaurant. If Jason had been going for a slash at the time and the police had burst in, he'd undoubtedly be mentioned in the press reports.

If he has done anything wrong, he should deal with the consequences.

If he hasn't, he deserves our support, not sanctimonious moralising.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:19 PM
We'll see where his career goes won't we. He also isn't a lad - he is a man.

lad (læd Pronunciation for lad )

Definitions
noun

a boy or young man

(informal) a familiar form of address for any male

a lively or dashing man or youth (esp in the phrase a bit of a lad)

He's a lad.

Geo_1875
05-05-2015, 12:20 PM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done. I hope the very same people are on-hand should his career go the same way as Riordan and O'Connor. Can't understand why a 19 year old is attending a party with 15 year olds anyway to be honest unless it is relatives or family friends.

When I was 19, hanging out with those younger was not very cool firstly but also we weren't like-minded so conversations and the like didn't go down very well. Just to clarify, I'm not much older than Cummings. For a guy who has worked so hard to get a footballing career, he really should be focusing more on football. Everyone is allowed their downtime but some people on here seem to suggest how he chooses to relax shouldn't really matter as long as he plays well...

He will never reach the highest echelons of football with the mentality he clearly seems to have. Possibly people are happy with that because he'll likely be at Hibs for a while. I, for one, would like to see more players that stay behind at training and don't get caught up in this sort of thing. What could Riordan and O'Connor have been if they applied themselves properly? Who knows. At least they got to blow off some steam often though, eh?

Don't know if you're taking the piss or not so I'll just ignore any more of your posts on this thread.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:21 PM
They should flog him mercilessly, tie an elastic band around his tackle and send him to the wall. I personally don't care how innocent he is, it's another outrage on the good name of Scottish football and if that thespian pretendy bi-sexual oaf Cosgrove ever gets round to updating his Hampden Babylon then he'll be sure to devote a chapter to our collective unconscious and genetic Hibernian inheritance. It must be down to our Irish roots, the ghost of Canon Hannan should be summoned up by the outage board and compelled to perform acts of ritual purification upon him. I would personally join him in any such act and would, unlike some softies on here, ENJOY it.

I don't know if you're being serious or not, but at least that's better thought through than your last suggestions.

duffers
05-05-2015, 12:21 PM
:hilarious

Instead of jumping on the bandwagon of criticism aimed at Jason Cummings, people should feel some sympathy towards him for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Unless players stay in all week, they are going to be in the presence of people. People get up to all sorts of things.

I once saw a guy doing cocaine in the toilets of a top restaurant. If Jason had been going for a slash at the time and the police had burst in, he'd undoubtedly be mentioned in the press reports.

If he has done anything wrong, he should deal with the consequences.

If he hasn't, he deserves our support, not sanctimonious moralising.

:top marks

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 12:23 PM
I don't know if you're being serious or not, but at least that's better thought through than your last suggestions.



Really?



:faf:

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 12:24 PM
We'll see where his career goes won't we. He also isn't a lad - he is a man.


We will see, and from where i'm standing its going along just nicely. He's done bugger all wrong from whatever evidence that i can see.

You seem to think he's going the wrong way with his career, when the facts he's finished top goalscorer in his first full season as a professional footballer. He went to a party and had his photo taken.

Please tell me what he's guilty of?

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:24 PM
Really?



:faf:

Look folks, I got another one!

:faf:

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 12:25 PM
We will see, and from where i'm standing its going along just nicely. He's done bugger all wrong from whatever evidence that i can see.

You seem to think he's going the wrong way with his career, when the facts he's finished top goalscorer in his first full season as a professional footballer. He went to a party and had his photo taken.

Please tell me what he's guilty of?


He's a Yam


:wink:

J-C
05-05-2015, 12:32 PM
Behave eh, he is a young lad enjoying himself, and quite right as well, are you saying the lad should give up going out and drop his mates just because he plays football and not have some fun in his life.

As far as we know the lad has done nothing wrong apart from go to a party, and you think he is making wrong choices and needs to grow up, FFS he is a young lad and that's what young lads do, they go out and enjoy them selfs and end up at parties.


I have never said he should not be allowed to have fun and go out with his mates, it's the choices being made when doing that. Was it all Deek's fault when he was up town or was it his company that got him into trouble with police and the clubs, he's older, wiser and you hear nothing about such things anymore but it hasn't helped his career any.

Someone mentioned George Best, erm different era where drinking and womanising was the done thing as a footballer, plus almost zero invasion with FB, Twitter etc.

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 12:36 PM
I don't know if you're being serious or not, but at least that's better thought through than your last suggestions.

There's plenty more where that came from too. Just wait until I return, all inspired, from seeing the Super Furry Animals tonight in the Weege,

Some folk on here just don't take themselves or the Record seriously enough. It is, to quote that strange wizened midget from the might Boosh, an ..............outrrrrrrrrrage.

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 12:38 PM
I have never said he should not be allowed to have fun and go out with his mates, it's the choices being made when doing that. Was it all Deek's fault when he was up town or was it his company that got him into trouble with police and the clubs, he's older, wiser and you hear nothing about such things anymore but it hasn't helped his career any.

Someone mentioned George Best, erm different era where drinking and womanising was the done thing as a footballer, plus almost zero invasion with FB, Twitter etc.


ffs he's had his photo taken at a party, thats all he's guilty of here? He's not accountable for anything anyone else does.

Until such times as he's done something, perhaps we should just support the player.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 12:38 PM
There's plenty more where that came from too. Just wait until I return, all inspired, from seeing the Super Furry Animals tonight in the Weege,

Some folk on here just don't take themselves or the Record seriously enough. It is, to quote that strange wizened midget from the might Boosh, an ..............outrrrrrrrrrage.

I don't know if you're serious or not, but..er...er...I can't wait!

Enjoy the gig!

Pete
05-05-2015, 12:42 PM
What a lot of nonsense!

When I were a lad, "house parties" were often attended by people from 14 - 30 years old - it depended on the occassion.


Correct me if I'm wrong but was this not the night of the Mayweather Pacquiao fight?

A larger than normal amount of house parties would have been going on all across the city attended by random people.

J-C
05-05-2015, 12:45 PM
ffs he's had his photo taken at a party, thats all he's guilty of here? He's not accountable for anything anyone else does.

Until such times as he's done something, perhaps we should just support the player.


We understand he's done nowt wrong but it's because his pic was taken that this story firstly grew some legs, no pic ith 4-5 very young girls at a party and his name would'nt be connected.

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 12:48 PM
We understand he's done nowt wrong but it's because his pic was taken that this story firstly grew some legs, no pic ith 4-5 very young girls at a party and his name would'nt be connected.


JC, I sympathise with your view but Sports stars have their photos taken with people all the time, young and old.

I can't see that we can tell them not to, else the Story in the Paper next day will read 'moody footballer refuses photo with young Fans'.

Just Alf
05-05-2015, 01:08 PM
I don't think the post was saying there was anything wrong with his pals being yams, more that any company they keep are likely yams too who don't know Jason and are therefore happy to run to social media and/or the press with these stories even though he's not directly involved in the incident.

:top marks in a nut shell

silverhibee
05-05-2015, 01:25 PM
People are starting to make a mockery of what he has done. I hope the very same people are on-hand should his career go the same way as Riordan and O'Connor. Can't understand why a 19 year old is attending a party with 15 year olds anyway to be honest unless it is relatives or family friends.

When I was 19, hanging out with those younger was not very cool firstly but also we weren't like-minded so conversations and the like didn't go down very well. Just to clarify, I'm not much older than Cummings. For a guy who has worked so hard to get a footballing career, he really should be focusing more on football. Everyone is allowed their downtime but some people on here seem to suggest how he chooses to relax shouldn't really matter as long as he plays well...

He will never reach the highest echelons of football with the mentality he clearly seems to have. Possibly people are happy with that because he'll likely be at Hibs for a while. I, for one, would like to see more players that stay behind at training and don't get caught up in this sort of thing. What could Riordan and O'Connor have been if they applied themselves properly? Who knows. At least they got to blow off some steam often though, eh?

Who say's he isn't, he was on a night out where he ended up at a party. That's it as far as we know, players are allowed to socialise so that they can meet people.

Something Riordan was well known for when he stayed behind at East Mains and Lennoxtown to work on his shooting practice while most of the other players had jumped in to there cars and couldn't wait to get away from training and down to the bookies.

Do you really think these players go out looking to be in the papers the next day, i doubt it very much, but we have folk who are willing to sell a made up story to the press for a few hundred quid to say i seen so and so in the vicinity so they must have been involved, Edinburgh is a gold fish bowl, if you are a local lad and happen to venture uptown then off course you are going to be noticed, it doesn't give folk the right to start abusing these players because they are easy targets for the bams.

Jason sticking by his mates, Deek, sticking by his family and close friends, shocking so it is, FFS if Deek had dumped his family, mainly his male cousins as he came from a big family and his close friends, if he dumped all them he would have still went up the town, the only difference would have been was he would have got the s**t kicked out of him when he would go out, what was he to do, dump everyone close to him and sit in his house after training 24/7 just waiting for the next day to go to training again, what a f***ing boring life, a wee example would be, Deek and a friend many years ago walking along George Street minding there own business, a few shouts from the other side of the street from a few guys (Riordan ya w****r ya aids riddled wee f***) Deek and friend ignore and keep walking, guys not happy they are getting a response so decide to come in to the middle of GS and start telling Deek he is f***ing getting it ya Hibs wee ******, Deeks mate speaks up and says they are just out for a few drinks and not wanting any bother so calm down and away and enjoy your night, one guy not happy with that and runs at Deek to throw a punch at him, before he can make contact Deeks mate has knocked the guy out, what else could he do, self defence, luckily enough a policeman who was dealing with another incident watched how things unfolded and gave evidence because Deeks mate got charged with serious assault as the guy ended up with a broken jaw, but because of the policeman's evidence the judge fined and sentenced Deeks mate to community service as he felt he was defending himself and Deek from this nutter running at them, the nutter was never charged with anything, can you imagine if Deek was on his own, nutters mates jumping in as Deek would be a easy target and him getting the s**t kicked out of him, as i say, they don't go looking for bother and to be in the papers the next day, but there are reporters out there who will believe any pish on facebook or twitter and print it on the front pages of there paper as they think it is big news, FFS did some famous bird fae London not have a bairn the other day there and the papers think it's newsworthy to stick a football player on the front page because he attended a house party.

Hibs07p
05-05-2015, 01:27 PM
Jason, the Jambos hate you for picking Hibs over hertz, when they kicked you in the nuts by releasing you after you had a bad injury. This has been reinforced by you sticking it right up them and your celebrations when you score against them. Expect the worse when you are out and in big groups, they are all not your friends and social media is your enemy. And rags like the DR and Sun, can and will, report stories with distorted facts and sentences, that make you look as the main culprit.
It's about time our club told rags like the DR and Sun to F'off if they continue to publish rubbish in regards to our players.

GGTTH

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 01:34 PM
We understand he's done nowt wrong but it's because his pic was taken that this story firstly grew some legs, no pic ith 4-5 very young girls at a party and his name would'nt be connected.

So it's not a story then, unless you are saying he should refuse to have his photo taken with anyone under the age of 16?

Jim44
05-05-2015, 01:39 PM
No amount of defending or attacking the position that Cummings has innocently or otherwise got himself into, will prevent the unfortunate spin-off which is the negative effect it could have on the reputation and morale of the club. It seems that the majority of posters understandably support Cummings but it might be wiser to stop unnecessarily fueling the flames with a prolonged debate on this message board. If there is nothing in this story, the less said the better. A fire starved of oxygen soon goes out.

J-C
05-05-2015, 01:45 PM
So it's not a story then, unless you are saying he should refuse to have his photo taken with anyone under the age of 16?


I never said it was a story but putting yourself in a position where social media can and will get you into trouble, he'll have to start wising up soon because this type of reporting of non stories when innocent pics are taken will be the norm. Would it not have been nicer to see a pic saying Jason Cummings enjoys a few drinks with his makes after a good day at the office scoring again for Hibs.

Kato
05-05-2015, 01:46 PM
He is linked to a story that isn't on the back pages, it is not a positive story. He is also a professional footballer at Hibernian FC (a representative of the club).

As far as I can see, he has done nothing wrong in a legal perspective but I'll leave it up to the club how they deal with it internally.

You didn't answer the question.

What exactly has he done?

Monts
05-05-2015, 01:46 PM
I wonder what Sir Alex would've said if this was one of his players

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 01:50 PM
I never said it was a story but putting yourself in a position where social media can and will get you into trouble, he'll have to start wising up soon because this type of reporting of non stories when innocent pics are taken will be the norm. Would it not have been nicer to see a pic saying Jason Cummings enjoys a few drinks with his makes after a good day at the office scoring again for Hibs.


What if a young girl is pumped in the toilets of the pub he was in enjoying his couple of drinks, the tabloids will spin it negatively EVERY time.

You can get your knickers in a twist over this, or you can see it for what is actually is, a young footballer having his photograph taken with a few young girls.

Because that's all he has done.

Hibbyradge
05-05-2015, 01:55 PM
I wonder what Sir Alex would've said if this was one of his players

I wonder what Sir Alex said to Ryan Giggs when he was caught having an affair with his brother's wife.

Monts
05-05-2015, 01:58 PM
I wonder what Sir Alex said to Ryan Giggs when he was caught having an affair with his brother's wife.

I'll bet he went right through him

dangermouse
05-05-2015, 02:45 PM
JC, I sympathise with your view but Sports stars have their photos taken with people all the time, young and old.

I can't see that we can tell them not to, else the Story in the Paper next day will read 'moody footballer refuses photo with young Fans'.

My son was out on Saturday night and had his photo taken with Sam Nicholson, Ozturk and Osman Sow. Thankfully he made it home in one piece or I'd have bee straight onto the Record with a "Hertz **** let my boy down" style story.

For the record, Sam Stanton was also there but he never managed to get his photo taken with him so he would be absolved of any blame.

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 02:52 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 02:57 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

Can I be the first to say it? Go on , please.

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 02:58 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

Define?

:greengrin

Lucius Apuleius
05-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Politicians are allowed to have their photos taken with younger people, some even younger than15. Seems to do them no harm.

JimBHibees
05-05-2015, 03:00 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

He's already been kicked out of your club. :greengrin

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-05-2015, 03:00 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

Ah the good old Hibs class phrase, all he did was get a photo taken.

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:01 PM
well if the boy filmed it, then he should be playing for that g*rgie mob

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:06 PM
Ah the good old Hibs class phrase, all he did was get a photo taken.

If thats all he did then theres no problem, i think the Record is probably making a stupid fuss, but if he was properly involved, he has no place at a club like this

superfurryhibby
05-05-2015, 03:08 PM
well if the boy filmed it, then he should be playing for that g*rgie mob

Can you hurry up please?

http://www.jambogrill.co.uk

Can you recommend this place?

HibsNutter
05-05-2015, 03:10 PM
Apparently he done absolutely nothing wrong

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:11 PM
i'm not a jambo mate, been supporting hibs since i was 4 years old

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:12 PM
Apparently he done absolutely nothing wrong

i'm glad to hear this, the boy is a bit mental but i wouldnt put him down as being a paedo, bring on the playoffs!

Chuck Rhoades
05-05-2015, 03:12 PM
i'm not a jambo mate, been supporting hibs since i was 4 years old

Trolling every thread. Launch this muppet.

blackpoolhibs
05-05-2015, 03:15 PM
14810
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:15 PM
I'm not troll im happy hibee

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 03:16 PM
i'm not a jambo mate, been supporting hibs since i humped my dog

You mean about 6 months? :greengrin

Keith_M
05-05-2015, 03:23 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class


:lolyam:


:sofa:


:yamlaugh:

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
5-1

frazeHFC
05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
5-1



Hahahahaha bolt

HappyHibbe62
05-05-2015, 03:25 PM
hahahahaha bolt

My jambo bums still hurting? Hhgh

frazeHFC
05-05-2015, 03:27 PM
Sitting on your rivals forum all day, wish my life was so exciting.

Chuck Rhoades
05-05-2015, 03:27 PM
My jambo bums still hurting? Hhgh

What a sad, pathetic life you live signing up to here in your spare time.

Mind the door on the way out, fud.

Greencore
05-05-2015, 03:30 PM
5-1

6-2, 7-0.

Pete
05-05-2015, 03:44 PM
5-1

You had me fooled.

hibees 7062
05-05-2015, 03:51 PM
You had me fooled.

Me to http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140119020559/disneycreate/images/8/82/39400-Val-Kilmer-you-may-go-now-gif-Etao.gif (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdisneycreate.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FF ile%3A39400-Val-Kilmer-you-may-go-now-gif-Etao.gif&ei=5uZIVcm1Ipbfau-fgPgH&bvm=bv.92291466,d.d2s&psig=AFQjCNHJ6QvhD8o85L63XAo2nbl_qkBn_g&ust=1430927442493221)

cabbageandribs1875
05-05-2015, 03:54 PM
5-1


omg that really hurts :boo hoo: bet your a wee plukey freakazoid that's in love wae yer sister/mummy*






* Delete as appropriate

high bee
05-05-2015, 03:57 PM
I'm not troll im happy hibee

Get back to your English homework you muppet.

Also, great effort on the trolling. Lasted about as long as Zeefuiks boasting he would get a hat trick in the last Derby! Thanks for the 5-1 reminder, never let Kille forget!

hibees 7062
05-05-2015, 04:00 PM
5-1

The last time you played in the Scottish Cup :jamboclow

Albanian Hibs
05-05-2015, 04:01 PM
5-1

Hahahahahaha oh that really hurts

hibees 7062
05-05-2015, 04:02 PM
omg that really hurts :boo hoo: bet your a wee plukey freakazoid that's in love wae yer sister/mummy*






* Delete as appropriate

Same person

Jones28
05-05-2015, 04:10 PM
5-1

Haha! Admins, can we keep it for a bit?

Pete
05-05-2015, 04:13 PM
Me to http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140119020559/disneycreate/images/8/82/39400-Val-Kilmer-you-may-go-now-gif-Etao.gif (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdisneycreate.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FF ile%3A39400-Val-Kilmer-you-may-go-now-gif-Etao.gif&ei=5uZIVcm1Ipbfau-fgPgH&bvm=bv.92291466,d.d2s&psig=AFQjCNHJ6QvhD8o85L63XAo2nbl_qkBn_g&ust=1430927442493221)

I trust he got emptied before he started messaging the youngsters on this site.

McIntosh
05-05-2015, 04:23 PM
They do make me laugh - they forget about their former chairman having sex with two male teenagers at a party in Albyn Place in 1970 and the twin brother of a former manager who was always getting arrested for cottaging at Haymarket. They are something else.

Stuarty27
05-05-2015, 04:30 PM
5-1

:rotflmao:

madhatter
05-05-2015, 04:56 PM
My jambo bums still hurting? Hhgh

Come back when you can type/write legible English. Start with spelling then work up to grammar. After you've managed that you might just be able to have some banter here although I'd recommend against salivating over a rival team's forum for an entire day.

You have a nice day now...

My_Wife_Camille
05-05-2015, 05:00 PM
So apart from one of my mates who says that Jason is definitely in the video (despite having not even seen it), all other accounts, including the very paper that published the story and a whole host of people on twitter who were actually there are saying he had absolutely nothing to do with it at all.

**** sake

HibbyAndy
05-05-2015, 05:11 PM
5-1



6-2 0-7 ya hearts ****!!!!!

pontius pilate
05-05-2015, 05:14 PM
Dont know if this has bèn mentioned or not and its in relation to the article and not about JC. Surely if people were taking photos and videos of a 15 year old performing sexual acrs with a 17 year old and they have been distributed surely that is distributing child pornography wether its a consenual act or not. Back onto JC i fail to believe he played any part wrong place at the wrong time.

Just Alf
05-05-2015, 05:15 PM
Lol HH62, seeing as it was Yams doing the doing was it you in the vid or were you the one filming! Ha ha ha !

Stokesy's on fire
05-05-2015, 06:10 PM
5-1

Yeah I love the rob Jones goal in that game and the Benji and Fletcher doubles!

HH81
05-05-2015, 06:14 PM
5-1

Bully.

Thecat23
05-05-2015, 06:26 PM
My jambo bums still hurting? Hhgh

Joking aside here, what kind of person goes to all the trouble of joining your rivals forum and pretending to be a supporter of that club? That's Ted Bundy **** that is!! I bet you wear a long mack and hang about schools as well.

You're mum and dad aren't brother and sister are they? Because that would explain it!

Either way you have problems... Big, Big problems!!!

CropleyWasGod
05-05-2015, 06:27 PM
Joking aside here, what kind of person goes to all the trouble of joining your rivals forum and pretending to be a supporter of that club? That's Ted Bundy **** that is!! I bet you wear a long mack and hang about schools as well.

You're mum and dad aren't brother and sister are they? Because that would explain it!

Either way you have problems... Big, Big problems!!!
He's gone [emoji6]

Thecat23
05-05-2015, 06:28 PM
He's gone [emoji6]

Aw man, I wanted some answers [emoji30]

Just Alf
05-05-2015, 06:37 PM
He's gone [emoji6]


Aw man, I wanted some answers [emoji30]

Gutted!

Could we not have kept him? ..... Even just for a wee while? :-(

Thecat23
05-05-2015, 06:38 PM
Gutted!

Could we not have kept him? ..... Even just for a wee while? :-(

Yeah I vote we get the Bundy in the making back!!! [emoji113]🏼

HUTCHYHIBBY
05-05-2015, 07:03 PM
Is it not time to close this thread yet? Not sure what purpose it serves after the fud has been chased away.

McKenzie
05-05-2015, 08:54 PM
if cummings was even remotely involved then i want him out of this great club, that is not hibs class

Graham rix anyone? Let's not start on underagers and hearts please.

Oh and can the NHC prefix be placed on this thread? Clearly the story has no relation to Jason other than the fact he was at the party.

Jay
05-05-2015, 09:12 PM
Is it not time to close this thread yet? Not sure what purpose it serves after the fud has been chased away.

I agree. Thread closed