BBC bias again?

[Kato]

It’s almost like the SNP do a good job within a UK that is being run into the ground.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/msm_monitor/status/1778326479182463171?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A

No attempt to hide the bias.


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[MKHIBEE]

BBC banner headline on attacks on pro Palestinian supporters on university campus in America fail to mention Israeli attackers. So you have attacks and pro Palestinians as the lead. Shocking but not unexpected

[tamig]

BBC banner headline on attacks on pro Palestinian supporters on university campus in America fail to mention Israeli attackers. So you have attacks and pro Palestinians as the lead. Shocking but not unexpected

They mentioned Israeli attackers on both the tv and radio. Think some folk are nit-picking on this thread and seeing things to suit their own agendas.

[MKHIBEE]

They mentioned Israeli attackers on both the tv and radio. Think some folk are nit-picking on this thread and seeing things to suit their own agendas.

They weren’t mentioned in the first report I watched. However, that was not the point I was making. The banner headline was ambigious, and could easily give the impression the pro Palestinian protestors were responsible for the violence. Which they were not. That’s not me nit picking, that’s the BBC showing poor journalistic standards at best, pro Israeli bias at worst.

[tamig]

They weren’t mentioned in the first report I watched. However, that was not the point I was making. The banner headline was ambigious, and could easily give the impression the pro Palestinian protestors were responsible for the violence. Which they were not. That’s not me nit picking, that’s the BBC showing poor journalistic standards at best, pro Israeli bias at worst.

That sounds to me like you’re interpreting it to have a pop. Your initial post about the banner headline - which I didn’t see myself - stated attacks on pro-Palestinian protestors. Were you implying that could be taken as them attacking themselves? I’ve been following the coverage of this whole situation since it started via multiple sources. I think the BBC coverage has been excellent overall.

[MKHIBEE]

That sounds to me like you’re interpreting it to have a pop. Your initial post about the banner headline - which I didn’t see myself - stated attacks on pro-Palestinian protestors. Were you implying that could be taken as them attacking themselves? I’ve been following the coverage of this whole situation since it started via multiple sources. I think the BBC coverage has been excellent overall.
The banner headline didn’t use the word attacks, that was my description of the incident the banner headline was referring to. It stated that pro Palestinian supporters were involved in clashes. A banner stating that “‘Israelis attacked peaceful Pro Palestinian supporters” would have been accurate, unambiguous and truthful . The BBC chose to broadcast something different. If you think the BBC coverage has been excellent overall then fair enough, I think
It leaves a lot to be desired and not only in covering the conflict in Gaza. Their flagship political and current affairs programmes are shockingly biased in favour of the right leaning apologists

[tamig]

The banner headline didn’t use the word attacks, that was my description of the incident the banner headline was referring to. It stated that pro Palestinian supporters were involved in clashes. A banner stating that “‘Israelis attacked peaceful Pro Palestinian supporters” would have been accurate, unambiguous and truthful . The BBC chose to broadcast something different. If you think the BBC coverage has been excellent overall then fair enough, I think
It leaves a lot to be desired and not only in covering the conflict in Gaza. Their flagship political and current affairs programmes are shockingly biased in favour of the right leaning apologists
I was talking specifically about the news programmes.

[MKHIBEE]

I was talking specifically about the news programmes.

I realise that, I wasn’t suggesting otherwise.

[StevieC]

Surprised that the latest episode of Question Time hasn’t had a mention 🙄

[JimBHibees]

Surprised that the latest episode of Question Time hasn’t had a mention 🙄

Genuinely couldn’t bear watching that show for years. What happened?

[StevieC]

Genuinely couldn’t bear watching that show for years. What happened?

I suppose nothing out of the ordinary .. uneven audience split (as usual), allowing pro-Independence/SNP guests to be interrupted and letting unionist panel guests say whatever they wanted unchecked .. but the big thing for me with this one was Fiona Bruce actually interrupting/heckling Stephen Flynn when he was talking! Ridiculous from a presenter that is meant to be neutral and not show political bias.

[marinello59]

I suppose nothing out of the ordinary .. uneven audience split (as usual), allowing pro-Independence/SNP guests to be interrupted and letting unionist panel guests say whatever they wanted unchecked .. but the big thing for me with this one was Fiona Bruce actually interrupting/heckling Stephen Flynn when he was talking! Ridiculous from a presenter that is meant to be neutral and not show political bias.

First part of the programme I thought Flynn was pretty impressive. Then he started interrupting everyone whilst wanting to talk at excessive length himself. I’m not so sure Bruce crossed a line, she didn’t have to ask Salmond to keep it short.

[StevieC]

I don’t know why I still watch Question Time. Fiona Bruce’s agenda against the SNP is clear, and she does more butting in over the SNP than any of the other parties.

Last night Stephen Flynn talking about 100,000 jobs at risk under Labours policy around licences, Yvette Cooper sitting next to him doesn’t say a word, Fiona Bruce buts in and produces a Labour rebuttal about the figures and throws in a made up number of 40,000. I don’t think she let Stephen Flynn provide any reply to questions without butting in and having a go. She did but in on a couple of the other guests, but it certainly wasn’t balanced, and IMO a clear BBC bias against the SNP.

[marinello59]

I don’t know why I still watch Question Time. Fiona Bruce’s agenda against the SNP is clear, and she does more butting in over the SNP than any of the other parties.

Last night Stephen Flynn talking about 100,000 jobs at risk under Labours policy around licences, Yvette Cooper sitting next to him doesn’t say a word, Fiona Bruce buts in and produces a Labour rebuttal about the figures and throws in a made up number of 40,000. I don’t think she let Stephen Flynn provide any reply to questions without butting in and having a go. She did but in on a couple of the other guests, but it certainly wasn’t balanced, and IMO a clear BBC bias against the SNP.

Flynn is following a classic Tory line here by parroting the scare tactics of the oil companies. Let’s be fair to him though, he is trying to save his own job. . The SNP have moved from being in favour of a windfall tax and against granting any further oil licenses to what is an incredibly muddled position in the time that it took Sunak to call an election. I don’t like Bruce but anybody using fantasy figures provided by big business trying to protect its massive profits deserves to be called out.

[Hibs Class]

I don’t know why I still watch Question Time. Fiona Bruce’s agenda against the SNP is clear, and she does more butting in over the SNP than any of the other parties.

Last night Stephen Flynn talking about 100,000 jobs at risk under Labours policy around licences, Yvette Cooper sitting next to him doesn’t say a word, Fiona Bruce buts in and produces a Labour rebuttal about the figures and throws in a made up number of 40,000. I don’t think she let Stephen Flynn provide any reply to questions without butting in and having a go. She did but in on a couple of the other guests, but it certainly wasn’t balanced, and IMO a clear BBC bias against the SNP.

Every party thinks the BBC is bias against them, which probably means that overall they are fair.

[Kato]

Every party thinks the BBC is bias against them, which probably means that overall they are fair.That's starting from a point that every party might be being honest about the bias.

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[Ozyhibby]

Flynn is following a classic Tory line here by parroting the scare tactics of the oil companies. Let’s be fair to him though, he is trying to save his own job. . The SNP have moved from being in favour of a windfall tax and against granting any further oil licenses to what is an incredibly muddled position in the time that it took Sunak to call an election. I don’t like Bruce but anybody using fantasy figures provided by big business trying to protect its massive profits deserves to be called out.

Isn’t it the job of the Labour Party and not the BBC?


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[marinello59]

Isn’t it the job of the Labour Party and not the BBC?


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The Question Time presenters have questioned politicians of all parties on their facts and figures since the show began back in the days of black and white TV. Robin Day was incredibly brutal at times.. You could argue that is an inbuilt flaw in the format but it only seem to be a problem for people when one of their own champions is being questioned whoever they may be.
Bruce is pretty cack handed though, there must be better people at the BBC for QT.

[StevieC]

Flynn is following a classic Tory line here by parroting the scare tactics of the oil companies. Let’s be fair to him though, he is trying to save his own job. . The SNP have moved from being in favour of a windfall tax and against granting any further oil licenses to what is an incredibly muddled position in the time that it took Sunak to call an election. I don’t like Bruce but anybody using fantasy figures provided by big business trying to protect its massive profits deserves to be called out.

My point being that Bruce was the one interjecting and interrupting Flynn’s answer. It wasn’t about the figures, which ones were correct or what the policies were (that’s for another thread). It was about Fiona Bruce, supposedly in an impartial role, and the biased questioning. She even says to Yvette Cooper “I’ll let you come back in on that one” and Yvette, who had made no attempt to interject, look at her as if to say “I wasn’t intending to?”. And right enough when it was her turn to answer she made no reference to it.

[lapsedhibee]

Every party thinks the BBC is bias against them, which probably means that overall they are fair.

If Starmer calls Sunak a liar and Sunak calls Starmer a liar, is that enough information for you to conclude that they're equally honest? :dunno:

[RyeSloan]

I don’t know why I still watch Question Time. Fiona Bruce’s agenda against the SNP is clear, and she does more butting in over the SNP than any of the other parties.

Last night Stephen Flynn talking about 100,000 jobs at risk under Labours policy around licences, Yvette Cooper sitting next to him doesn’t say a word, Fiona Bruce buts in and produces a Labour rebuttal about the figures and throws in a made up number of 40,000. I don’t think she let Stephen Flynn provide any reply to questions without butting in and having a go. She did but in on a couple of the other guests, but it certainly wasn’t balanced, and IMO a clear BBC bias against the SNP.

Fiona Bruce obviously listens to the More or Less podcast!

That recently nicely debunked the 100,000 figure. Which was taken from a report that suggested the oil n gas industry supports that many jobs across the U.K. as a whole. The same report estimated that out of those jobs 40% were in Scotland. Hence the 40k.

The number is still made up though as it was a very broad estimate. It also didn’t say any specific policy would cost ALL those jobs and on top of that there was nothing in the report re jobs and the impact of the already in place structural decline of the industry.

Rather off topic on Fiona’s perceived bias I suppose but on the wider topic of the BBC and their bias it’s worth noting that pod as a rather worthy piece of BBC output that fact checks a lot of the parties nonsense figures that all parties have been chucking out there…the 100k jobs being just one of many that they have looked at recently.

[Kato]

Fiona Bruce obviously listens to the More or Less podcast!

That recently nicely debunked the 100,000 figure. Which was taken from a report that suggested the oil n gas industry supports that many jobs across the U.K. as a whole. The same report estimated that out of those jobs 40% were in Scotland. Hence the 40k.

The number is still made up though as it was a very broad estimate. It also didn’t say any specific policy would cost ALL those jobs and on top of that there was nothing in the report re jobs and the impact of the already in place structural decline of the industry.

Rather off topic on Fiona’s perceived bias I suppose but on the wider topic of the BBC and their bias it’s worth noting that pod as a rather worthy piece of BBC output that fact checks a lot of the parties nonsense figures that all parties have been chucking out there…the 100k jobs being just one of many that they have looked at recently.Who published the report?

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[RyeSloan]

Who published the report?

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The pod suggested it was a report by an investment bank called Stifel.

[grunt]

The pod suggested it was a report by an investment bank called Stifel.
Investment bankers. I'm 100% sure that any report they issue relating to oil & gas will be absolutely impartial.

[Stairway 2 7]

Investment bankers. I'm 100% sure that any report they issue relating to oil & gas will be absolutely impartial.
Eh the SNP are using the figure from the report surely in impartial the investment bank would overestimate the number to protect the companies

Are we now supporting the oil companies or not I'm lost. The defence against a windfall tax by the SNP is baffling. First why shouldn't they pay a slice whilst making obscene profits whilst we struggle to pay massive bills for our power. Two they are literally killing the planet more than any other means surely a slowdown of production isn't a bad thing. Yes we need to get good green jobs up there but the policy is a really good one

[Kato]

The pod suggested it was a report by an investment bank called Stifel.Fair enough. I suppose an investment bank must be intrinsically trustworthy.
[emoji102]

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[Stairway 2 7]

Fair enough. I suppose an investment bank must be intrinsically trustworthy.
[emoji102]

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But would they not overestimate the numbers for the companies or are you saying investment banks are anti oil company. Regardless of the figures a windfall tax is fair on both profits and climate

[RyeSloan]

Investment bankers. I'm 100% sure that any report they issue relating to oil & gas will be absolutely impartial.

Well it’s the SNP that are (mis)quoting it!

As I said the pod examined where the claim came from…traced it back to the Aberdeen chamber of commerce letter to a newspaper which quoted the number and the source. It was then picked up by the SNP.

The source was then examined for what it actually said.

Which was not that Scotland would lose 100k jobs.

So believe the source or not but thats actually totally beside the point . Which was that the BBC had fact checked the 100k number (and incidentally mentioned the 40k number in the process…which triggered my response here) and found that it was being totally misquoted and misrepresented.

The pod has done so with all parties made up numbers which was my second point. If you want to see the BBC being unbiased and using fact not fiction to examine these claims then More or Less is a very good example of it.

[lapsedhibee]

If you want to see the BBC being unbiased and using fact not fiction to examine these claims then More or Less is a very good example of it.

More Or Less is brilliant but it's a tiny, tiny part of the BBC's output.

[marinello59]

My point being that Bruce was the one interjecting and interrupting Flynn’s answer. It wasn’t about the figures, which ones were correct or what the policies were (that’s for another thread). It was about Fiona Bruce, supposedly in an impartial role, and the biased questioning. She even says to Yvette Cooper “I’ll let you come back in on that one” and Yvette, who had made no attempt to interject, look at her as if to say “I wasn’t intending to?”. And right enough when it was her turn to answer she made no reference to it.

Which I have already answered.
What do you think about the SNP change in direction and Flynn going along with big business scare tactics?

[StevieC]

Which I have already answered.
What do you think about the SNP change in direction and Flynn going along with big business scare tactics?

I’m disappointed, but unfortunately it’s today’s politics. It seems to be about throwing stuff out there and then ducking any cross examination. Yvette Cooper was asked a direct question from the audience about immigration and completely avoided answering it.
SNP are in a direct battle with Labour, so if the Tories start putting 100,000 job loses if Labour get in then there’s little surprise that the SNP are going to utilise it.
Personally I don’t like the way politics is conducted these days, but it seems to be where we are at. Stick a catchy slogan on the side of a bus and run with it. 🙄

[Kato]

Well it’s the SNP that are (mis)quoting it!

As I said the pod examined where the claim came from…traced it back to the Aberdeen chamber of commerce letter to a newspaper which quoted the number and the source. It was then picked up by the SNP.

The source was then examined for what it actually said.

Which was not that Scotland would lose 100k jobs.

So believe the source or not but thats actually totally beside the point . Which was that the BBC had fact checked the 100k number (and incidentally mentioned the 40k number in the process…which triggered my response here) and found that it was being totally misquoted and misrepresented.

The pod has done so with all parties made up numbers which was my second point. If you want to see the BBC being unbiased and using fact not fiction to examine these claims then More or Less is a very good example of it.I didn't realise it was interpretations of the same source so, cross purposes and poor on Flynn if he is mis-interpretating it.

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[marinello59]

I’m disappointed, but unfortunately it’s today’s politics. It seems to be about throwing stuff out there and then ducking any cross examination. Yvette Cooper was asked a direct question from the audience about immigration and completely avoided answering it.
SNP are in a direct battle with Labour, so if the Tories start putting 100,000 job loses if Labour get in then there’s little surprise that the SNP are going to utilise it.
Personally I don’t like the way politics is conducted these days, but it seems to be where we are at. Stick a catchy slogan on the side of a bus and run with it. 🙄

I’m at the same place with it all. Depressing isn’t it?


And sorry , the tone of my reply was poor to say the least.

[Colr]

Genuinely couldn’t bear watching that show for years. What happened?

Like you, I stopped watching this biased tosh well over a decade ago.

I would recommend Any Questions? on Radio 4 as a much better alternative and its Farage-free for the most part.

[StevieC]

I’m at the same place with it all. Depressing isn’t it?
And sorry , the tone of my reply was poor to say the least.

Didn’t think there was a “tone” that needed an apology, seemed a genuine question (which I hope I answered to your satisfaction).

I agree it is depressing, and I find it really conflicting at times in my role within local government. As a councillor in administration, I have to do the best I can for my ward but also for PKC. The budget constraints that I am having to work under are horrendous, and it doesn’t help when the opposition get political and start copying the antics of the MPs. General election candidates are throwing lies out during their campaigns, and you either risk getting embroiled in debunking them (which isn’t my style) or you hope that the electorate can see through it.

Tory candidate Luke Graham is throwing so much “SNP council failure” nonsense out there, that some of it will invariably stick. The fact that even if he got in he would have zero control over council policy and zero influence over the local issues he is supposedly campaigning for will be irrelevant. Catchphrases and slogans with no substance and no responsibility to actually deliver .. just like the main parties we are seeing daily in the run up to polling day. 🙄

[Ozyhibby]

Didn’t think there was a “tone” that needed an apology, seemed a genuine question (which I hope I answered to your satisfaction).

I agree it is depressing, and I find it really conflicting at times in my role within local government. As a councillor in administration, I have to do the best I can for my ward but also for PKC. The budget constraints that I am having to work under are horrendous, and it doesn’t help when the opposition get political and start copying the antics of the MPs. Local election candidates are throwing lies out during their campaigns, and you either risk getting embroiled in debunking them (which isn’t my style) or you hope that the electorate can see through it.

Tory candidate Luke Graham is throwing so much “SNP council failure” nonsense out there, that some of it will invariably stick. The fact that even if he got in he would have zero control over council policy and zero influence over the local issues he is supposedly campaigning for will be irrelevant. Catchphrases and slogans with no substance and no responsibility to actually deliver .. just like the main parties we are seeing daily in the run up to polling day. [emoji849]

I hear people in Edinburgh complaining about the SNP council all the time even though it’s a Labour/Tory coalition.


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[StevieC]

I hear people in Edinburgh complaining about the SNP council all the time even though it’s a Labour/Tory coalition.

If you pointed that out to them they’ll just say it was an SNP council that has created the problems. To be fair it’s more of a blame the council thing than blame the party. I expect Labour run councils will probably get the same from SNP supporters.

It’s unbelievable some of the stuff I get where they will blame the council for something that is nothing to do with the council. “What are the council going to do about the problem with .. x/y/z” and if you try and explain it’s not a council responsibility you get called useless, or accused of passing the buck, or you’re all just the same.
I had one on Friday complaining about the noise that BT engineers were making while laying high speed broadband fibre. I replied suggesting they take the vehicle details and report it to whoever is doing the work, but got the impression that by emailing me it was then my responsibility to do that for them!
Another was complaining to me about speeding cars through a village, and they lost the plot with me because I pointed out that speeding vehicles was a police matter and the council had no authority to punish drivers.

Problem=blame the council

[Hibrandenburg]

If you pointed that out to them they’ll just say it was an SNP council that has created the problems. To be fair it’s more of a blame the council thing than blame the party. I expect Labour run councils will probably get the same from SNP supporters.

It’s unbelievable some of the stuff I get where they will blame the council for something that is nothing to do with the council. “What are the council going to do about the problem with .. x/y/z” and if you try and explain it’s not a council responsibility you get called useless, or accused of passing the buck, or you’re all just the same.
I had one on Friday complaining about the noise that BT engineers were making while laying high speed broadband fibre. I replied suggesting they take the vehicle details and report it to whoever is doing the work, but got the impression that by emailing me it was then my responsibility to do that for them!
Another was complaining to me about speeding cars through a village, and they lost the plot with me because I pointed out that speeding vehicles was a police matter and the council had no authority to punish drivers.

Problem=blame the council

It's not just at council level where you find this kind of ignorance. A complete ignorance of understanding how the EU works was one of the main reasons why people voted for Brexit.

[grunt]

It's not just at council level where you find this kind of ignorance. A complete ignorance of understanding how the EU works was one of the main reasons why people voted for Brexit.
:aok:

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR4nle5WoAAwHm_?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR4nle3WUAAS_s2?format=jpg&name=large

[grunt]

The BBC appear to want a far right victory in France

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR5336XaAAA3olK?format=png&name=900x900

[Hiber-nation]

The BBC appear to want a far right victory in France

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR5336XaAAA3olK?format=png&name=900x900

Why do they never refer to Reform as far right?

Someone will now no doubt post a link where they did!

[JimBHibees]

Why do they never refer to Reform as far right?

Someone will now no doubt post a link where they did!

Very good point. Likely hidden away where no one could see it

[grunt]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR5336XaAAA3olK?format=png&name=900x900
I've just found the whole article under this headline. It is IMO far right madness. The BBC has totally lost the plot. And we are paying for this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR6X5ZnXsAE_6Y1?format=png&name=small

[grunt]

I mean, really, WTF???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51ykzpj6z1o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBCPolitics&at_format=link&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_id=7D4EE692-4287-11EF-89F4-8055A0CD7E44


SNP join push to scrap two-child benefit cap

Edit to add: Oh my goodness, whatever you do, don't look at the comments on that BBC article

[DaveF]

I mean, really, WTF???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51ykzpj6z1o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBCPolitics&at_format=link&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_id=7D4EE692-4287-11EF-89F4-8055A0CD7E44

Edit to add: Oh my goodness, whatever you do, don't look at the comments on that BBC article

Comments are, erm, interesting. There really are some utter ********s out there.

[lapsedhibee]

whatever you do, don't look at the comments on that BBC article

I didn't wanna do it, I didn't wanna do it, but you made me.

"the dumming down of society" :faf:

[Moulin Yarns]

I mean, really, WTF???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51ykzpj6z1o?xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_type=web_link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBCPolitics&at_format=link&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_id=7D4EE692-4287-11EF-89F4-8055A0CD7E44

Edit to add: Oh my goodness, whatever you do, don't look at the comments on that BBC article

An SNP MSP has challenged the BBC director-general over a 'simply misleading' headline

It comes after the BBC claimed the SNP had 'joined' the push to scrap the two-child benefit cap despite calling for it to be scrapped since its introduction.



Dinnae hold yer breath!!!

[grunt]

It's all her fault. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxQUuiXQAAFS4I?format=jpg&name=large

[marinello59]

It's all her fault. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxQUuiXQAAFS4I?format=jpg&name=large

Eh?
The headline is reporting what the report said about all our our various Governments and as that as in the Scotland section it will be concentrating on those who were in charge at Holyrood. There may well be bias in your post but in this instance it ain't from the BBC. :greengrin

[grunt]

Eh?The headline is reporting what the report said about all our our various Governments and as that as in the Scotland section it will be concentrating on those who were in charge at Holyrood. There may well be bias in your post but in this instance it ain't from the BBC. :greengrinVery good. By singling out the SG and not mentioning UKGov the BBC is giving the impression that the SG alone was criticised in the report. As you well know. It's bias by omission. But you know that.

[Stairway 2 7]

It's all her fault. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSxQUuiXQAAFS4I?format=jpg&name=large
This is in the Scottish section its obviously going to talk about us, the main news's top story leads with the headline "UK 'failed citizens' with flawed pandemic plans". Paranoia

You usually blame the PM FM when inadequacies are shown from a government yes. The report was absolutely damming on all four nations governments.

I have said before though while I agree there was mismanagement from all governments in the UK, the enquiry is just wanting someone to blame for the deaths which won't change anything. It should have been run like an airplane crash enquiry. If crash enquiries just focused on who was to blame then nothing would change. Instead they focus on what went wrong and how we change it and future proof it, hence the absolutely massive drop in airplane crash deaths per flight from the 60s onwards.

Shouting blame makes us feel good but doesn't help the future, it cost millions and the info it gathered is useless, tories aren't even in power

What they don't mention is it turned out the only real difference to excess deaths is vaccine uptake in vulnerable groups. Scotland and the UK were up there with the best in the world, so we'll done them as disinformation battle killed millions

[CropleyWasGod]

Very good. By singling out the SG and not mentioning UKGov the BBC is giving the impression that the SG alone was criticised in the report. As you well know. It's bias by omission. But you know that.

Second part of the headline, also repeated in the second sentence:-

"The UK Covid Inquiry said both UK and Scottish governments “failed their citizens” by not doing enough to properly plan for the crisis."

[marinello59]

Very good. By singling out the SG and not mentioning UKGov the BBC is giving the impression that the SG alone was criticised in the report. As you well know. It's bias by omission. But you know that.

It's not bias by omission.

Shall we make this interesting and swap sides? :greengrin

[grunt]

Shall we make this interesting and swap sides? :greengrinYou seem to find this amusing. I don't. The Scottish people is being misled and lied to by the state broadcaster. I dont think that's cause for laughter.

[grunt]

Second part of the headline, also repeated in the second sentence:-"The UK Covid Inquiry said both UK and Scottish governments “failed their citizens” by not doing enough to properly plan for the crisis."Not the Wales Government then? They did ok did they?

[jamie_1875]

Not the Wales Government then? They did ok did they?

From the BBC:

"The Welsh government has been strongly criticised over its preparations for the Covid pandemic.

The public inquiry looking into the UK’s preparedness for a pandemic said the system in Wales was "labyrinthine" and "hampered by undue complexity".

In a damning report, UK Covid-19 Inquiry chair Baroness Hallett said the UK government and devolved nations had "failed their citizens" as they planned for the wrong pandemic."

Maybe you are seeing what you want to see, the BBC has its issues but I don't see the reporting of this as bias or picking particularly on the Scottish Government.

[CropleyWasGod]

Not the Wales Government then? They did ok did they?

No.

Again, from the BBC's own site:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880xjj4j2zo

(as quoted in the post before mine)

[Pretty Boy]

I'm struggling to see the issue.

I read the reports yesterday. The main headline on the news home page focused on the UK as a whole then the headline reports in the Scotland and Wales sections focused on the parts of the report that dealt with the devolved governments and their respective performances.

It's really not that uncommon. The same happened after the King's Speech to open parliament. The main news page focused on the UK as a whole then the sections for each of the devolved had a 'What this means for Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland' report. The main headline this morning is about the IT outage but the Scotland headline is specifically about the issues it is causing at Edinburgh Airport. A local angle if you will.

That is as it should be I would argue. I can imagine the outrage if there was no Scottish specific reporting at all.

[marinello59]

You seem to find this amusing. I don't. The Scottish people is being misled and lied to by the state broadcaster. I dont think that's cause for laughter.

I'm not, as you may picture me, sitting in a secret lair ,stroking a Persian cat and cackling like a lunatic but it was an attempt to lighten the mood given our frequent disagreements. You are hard work sometimes Mr Grunt. :greengrin

[Stairway 2 7]

I'm not, as you may picture me, sitting in a secret lair ,stroking a Persian cat and cackling like a lunatic but it was an attempt to lighten the mood given our frequent disagreements. You are hard work sometimes Mr Grunt. :greengrin

If you were in a secret lair, this is what you would post though to put us off

[grunt]

You seem to find this amusing. I don't. The Scottish people is being misled and lied to by the state broadcaster. I dont think that's cause for laughter.Perhaps it should be, "the Scottish people are being misled ..." Perhaps that's where I went wrong.

[grunt]

If you were in a secret lair, this is what you would post though to put us of***actly. Don't think he fooled me for a second.

[CropleyWasGod]

Perhaps it should be, "the Scottish people are being misled ..." Perhaps that's where I went wrong.

Don't think twice, it's alright. :wink:

[McD]

You seem to find this amusing. I don't. The Scottish people is being misled and lied to by the state broadcaster. I dont think that's cause for laughter.


Where are the lies?


I get you are passionate in your support of the SNP (and I do genuinely mean that as a compliment), but you don’t need to defend every single criticism of them, some of it is warranted.

PB has already articulated it well, this is the Scottish angle of this news being presented in the Scottish section of the website, just as the Welsh angle is in that section, and the main news focussed on the UK as a whole.

[grunt]

Where are the lies?I didn't mean that this story was a lie. [Big smiley face]

[Andy Bee]

It's all about the subtleties, in Scotland they refer to "the Scottish Government led by Nicola Sturgeon until 2023" and in Wales it's "the Welsh Government" no reference to their FM or his party. Look at the pictures, in Scotland it's a full blown pic of NS below the headline "Scotland not properly prepared for pandemic" and in Wales it's a colourful pic of a "Thank you NHS" sign which isn't far away from being a postcard. It's gaslighting plain and simple.

[Stairway 2 7]

It's all about the subtleties, in Scotland they refer to "the Scottish Government led by Nicola Sturgeon until 2023" and in Wales it's "the Welsh Government" no reference to their FM or his party. Look at the pictures, in Scotland it's a full blown pic of NS below the headline "Scotland not properly prepared for pandemic" and in Wales it's a colourful pic of a "Thank you NHS" sign which isn't far away from being a postcard. It's gaslighting plain and simple.

If you search for stuff you'll find it but the grievance culture has just given the SNP a battering at the election I think. To much of the independence fight is spent on nonsense imo. We had the same media 8 years ago when SNP were flying. There needs a shake up. Saying they are all out to get us or Labour are the same as the tories is going to have Sarwar comfortably in FM position and independence a decade further away

[grunt]

If you search for stuff you'll find it but the grievance culture has just given the SNP a battering at the election I think. To much of the independence fight is spent on nonsense imo. We had the same media 8 years ago when SNP were flying. There needs a shake up. Saying they are all out to get us or Labour are the same as the tories is going to have Sarwar comfortably in FM position and independence a decade further awayNot so. They weren't behaving like this. This is crazy stuff.

[jamie_1875]

Not so. They weren't behaving like this. This is crazy stuff.

Sturgeon did put herself forward as pretty much the face of the pandemic response in Scotland, she was on the TV daily for a very long time. She even called herself "Chief Mammy" I believe. So to have her picture on the article seems reasonable.

She also regularly made the point about how we were doing things differently than the rest of the UK, but as we know now it was all a bit of a sham as each Government failed us all.

To be clear this is about the clinical response, the SG was head and shoulders above the Tories when it came to their personal behavior i.e. not partying.

[jamie_1875]

If you search for stuff you'll find it but the grievance culture has just given the SNP a battering at the election I think. To much of the independence fight is spent on nonsense imo. We had the same media 8 years ago when SNP were flying. There needs a shake up. Saying they are all out to get us or Labour are the same as the tories is going to have Sarwar comfortably in FM position and independence a decade further away

Fighting the same old battles won't win you the war, or something like that I think the saying is.

[grunt]

Fighting the same old battles won't win you the war, or something like that I think the saying is.

Ignoring it won't make it go away.

[JimBHibees]

Ignoring it won't make it go away.

Agree this should always be challenged. Bottom line is bbc is being run by Tories hence the reason why people like Emily Maitliss has left. There is a clear agenda any one thinking otherwise either isn’t listening or is happy with the impact of their reporting

[Stairway 2 7]

How Edwards charged with making indecent images of children

[Pete70]

How Edwards charged with making indecent images of children

Hew Edwards, been suspended for a year by the BBC and yet received a £45k pay rise according to the latest accounts.

[Ozyhibby]

Hew Edwards, been suspended for a year by the BBC and yet received a £45k pay rise according to the latest accounts.

I haven’t watched BBC news for years now as I don’t trust it. I prefer Sky. And recently I’ve stopped listening to the radio content as well. I tend to listen to podcasts and audiobooks these days.
So when it eventually goes, I won’t miss it now in way I might have stood up for it 10 years ago. I’ll be glad to see the back of the license fee now.


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[marinello59]

Hew Edwards, been suspended for a year by the BBC and yet received a £45k pay rise according to the latest accounts.

His pay rise came from the 2022/23 period which he worked. . It’s frustrating he has been paid so much money but the BBC had to afford him the same duty of care as any other employee when he was diagnosed as suffering severe mental problems. It looks like management there knew nothing about his arrest and charges until recently either.

[marinello59]

I haven’t watched BBC news for years now as I don’t trust it. I prefer Sky. And recently I’ve stopped listening to the radio content as well. I tend to listen to podcasts and audiobooks these days.
So when it eventually goes, I won’t miss it now in way I might have stood up for it 10 years ago. I’ll be glad to see the back of the license fee now.


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There’s still a lot of good journalism coming from the BBC, its reporting from Gaza for instance has been pretty good. . I watch all the news channels , SKY is OK though a bit bland. Al Jazeera is excellent especially when you want an alternative perspective and when I fancy seeing the Republicans getting a kicking I’ll tune in to CNN.

[Pete70]

His pay rise came from the 2022/23 period which he worked. . It’s frustrating he has been paid so much money but the BBC had to afford him the same duty of care as any other employee when he was diagnosed as suffering severe mental problems. It looks like management there knew nothing about his arrest and charges until recently either.

I agree about the duty of care but to give a guy a pay rise who hasn’t worked for a year is a bit much.
From the BBC
Edwards was suspended in July 2023 over allegations in The Sun newspaper of paying a young person for sexually explicit photos.
Police did not take any action against him, saying there was no evidence that a criminal offence had been committed.
He received between £435,000 and £439,999 in the year 2022/2023, which rose to £475,000 - £479,999 between April 2023 and April 2024, the BBC's latest annual report shows.
Edwards remained on the payroll while suspended, which is normal BBC policy.

[Pretty Boy]

I agree about the duty of care but to give a guy a pay rise who hasn’t worked for a year is a bit much.
From the BBC
Edwards was suspended in July 2023 over allegations in The Sun newspaper of paying a young person for sexually explicit photos.
Police did not take any action against him, saying there was no evidence that a criminal offence had been committed.
He received between £435,000 and £439,999 in the year 2022/2023, which rose to £475,000 - £479,999 between April 2023 and April 2024, the BBC's latest annual report shows.

Looking at the dates it looks like an across the board pay rise coinciding with the end/beginning of the financial year.

I get why that is uncomfortable but given Edwards hadn't been found guilty or even charged with any offence at that point and was suspended pending an ongoing investigation it would be tricky territory for his employer not to include him in such a rise (admittedly I am just speculating but the dates would be pretty coincidental and April tends to be when most companies award pay rises).

[grunt]

**** the BBChttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTv4nzbWsAMZ3K-?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ozyhibby]

**** the BBChttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTv4nzbWsAMZ3K-?format=jpg&name=medium

They can present anything as a negative against the SNP.[emoji35]


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[Hibrandenburg]

**** the BBChttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTv4nzbWsAMZ3K-?format=jpg&name=medium

Need to start upping those drug deaths again.

[Moulin Yarns]

Need to start upping those drug deaths again.

Just waiting for winter, all those pensioners with no heating!

[marinello59]

They can present anything as a negative against the SNP.[emoji35]


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Have you read the item? The BBC aren’t pointing the finger at anyone. You’d have to be incredibly paranoid to find any actual bias there. :confused:

[grunt]

Have you read the item? The BBC aren’t pointing the finger at anyone. You’d have to be incredibly paranoid to find any actual bias there. :confused:They are reporting a positive news item (increasing numbers of doctors in training) as a problem. Not paranoid at all. Thanks for your concern.

[weecounty hibby]

People read headlines and skip the stories so the banner headline is what sticks. "Record number of Doctors training in Scotland leads to shortage of corpses" see pretty easy really. Now people know that there is a record number of doctors rather than there is an issue

[weecounty hibby]

When was the last time Sarwar was on the beeb? He was their go to poster boy during the election but nowhere to be seen now he has some questions to answer. 2 child cap? Nothing. Funding gap? Nothing. Heating allowance? Nothing

[CropleyWasGod]

They are reporting a positive news item (increasing numbers of doctors in training) as a problem. Not paranoid at all. Thanks for your concern.

I've read the article 3 times, and don't see that at all. I do see 3 things:-

1. a remarkable increase in the numbers, and that being acknowledged as fufilling (and exceeding) an SG pledge.

2. recognition of some unintended consequences

3. advice on how to leave your body to science.

[jamie_1875]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87r2enn88lo

This one must have slipped through the net. Maybe the anti SNP team/department were on their holidays.

[JimBHibees]

Have you read the item? The BBC aren’t pointing the finger at anyone. You’d have to be incredibly paranoid to find any actual bias there. :confused:

You would have to be completely biased to not see the bias over so many years also.

[McD]

I've read the article 3 times, and don't see that at all. I do see 3 things:-

1. a remarkable increase in the numbers, and that being acknowledged as fufilling (and exceeding) an SG pledge.

2. recognition of some unintended consequences

3. advice on how to leave your body to science.



Pretty much how I read it too. Didn’t see criticism of anyone

[JimBHibees]

When was the last time Sarwar was on the beeb? He was their go to poster boy during the election but nowhere to be seen now he has some questions to answer. 2 child cap? Nothing. Funding gap? Nothing. Heating allowance? Nothing

They are the outlet of the establishment and the status quo that is clear to see. Clue is in the name i suppose

[JimBHibees]

People read headlines and skip the stories so the banner headline is what sticks. "Record number of Doctors training in Scotland leads to shortage of corpses" see pretty easy really. Now people know that there is a record number of doctors rather than there is an issue

Exactly just like newspapers it is all about the headlines.Also why newspapers are prominent in supermarkets many won’t buy one but they will see the usually very extreme banner headlines.

[Stairway 2 7]

I think there must be a squad that spend their days looking through the bbc to find a grievance. How can a rise of medical students in the headline be seen as anything but a positive. No one is going to think a lack of corpses in anyone's fault. Hopefully some more volunteer to donate their body though, very worthwhile

[grunt]

I think there must be a squad that spend their days looking through the bbc to find a grievance. 2846 posts would indicate that there's at least some justification to the grievance.

[Stairway 2 7]

2846 posts would indicate that there's at least some justification to the grievance.

Yeah but not here and not in the one praising the SNPs mitigating some of the two child cap..

[marinello59]

2846 posts would indicate that there's at least some justification to the grievance.

Seriously? :greengrin:

In that case 10570 posts would suggest that the SNP are indeed lying *******s. Case closed. :thumbsup:

[tamig]

They can present anything as a negative against the SNP.[emoji35]


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Some absolute paranoia on this thread. Mental stuff.

[grunt]

In that case 10570 posts would suggest that the SNP are indeed lying *******s. Case closed. :thumbsup:Ah, you got me there. Slam dunk.

[CropleyWasGod]

Exactly just like newspapers it is all about the headlines.Also why newspapers are prominent in supermarkets many won’t buy one but they will see the usually very extreme banner headlines.

I don't even see anything negative in the headline there. If anything, it's unusual enough to make me want to read the actual piece.

[JimBHibees]

I don't even see anything negative in the headline there. If anything, it's unusual enough to make me want to read the actual piece.

Fair enough

[grunt]

Would this have been the BBC Scotland headline had this been an SNP Councillor? Who can tell?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c10l3pnje3ro


Former councillor admits downloading child abuse images

[JimBHibees]

Would this have been the BBC Scotland headline had this been an SNP Councillor? Who can tell?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c10l3pnje3ro

No it definitely wouldn’t. I think the perception of media very much fits your own mindset and position. If it in some way benefits your own position you are unlikely to have much issue with it

[marinello59]

Would this have been the BBC Scotland headline had this been an SNP Councillor? Who can tell?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c10l3pnje3ro

This might give us a clue. Would this have been the headline if this had been a Tory / Labour/ LibDem Councillor? Who can tell?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62322944


Council leader quits amid sexual harassment claims

[grunt]

This might give us a clue. Would this have been the headline if this had been a Tory / Labour/ LibDem Councillor? Who can tell?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62322944
Good spot. Who knows how they would headline such a story now.

[cabbageandribs1875]

photo was taken in Rotherham, i'm sure tourists catching up on any news will be impressed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUZmS3GWMAA1Rwc?format=jpg&name=large

[JimBHibees]

photo was taken in Rotherham, i'm sure tourists catching up on any news will be impressed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUZmS3GWMAA1Rwc?format=jpg&name=large

That is reprehensible reporting

[Andy Bee]

I wonder why they didn't use this one of the same scenes...https://x.com/hamui68/status/1820241597407072652 :hmmm:

[w pilton hibby]

photo was taken in Rotherham, i'm sure tourists catching up on any news will be impressed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUZmS3GWMAA1Rwc?format=jpg&name=large

You'd think that even the BBC can spell asylum.

[grunt]

Looks like I'm not the only one to think this ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVz8clSWAAEQmlb?format=jpg&name=medium

[Kato]

Not the BBC but ITV. Richard Madeley on GMTV this morning said "Prince Andrew has suffered enough", on the news that a photo of his infamous BBC interview was purchased by the National Portrait Gallery.

He also said Oasis broke "so much new ground" musically.

I don't know which one is worse.

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[Moulin Yarns]

Looks like I'm not the only one to think this ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVz8clSWAAEQmlb?format=jpg&name=medium

That will be the same Douglas fraser who called the National propaganda.

[JimBHibees]

Not the BBC but ITV. Richard Madeley on GMTV this morning said "Prince Andrew has suffered enough", on the news that a photo of his infamous BBC interview was purchased by the National Portrait Gallery.

He also said Oasis broke "so much new ground" musically.

I don't know which one is worse.

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Obviously still quaffing his morning vino. Has suffered enough ffs

[JimBHibees]

Looks like I'm not the only one to think this ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVz8clSWAAEQmlb?format=jpg&name=medium

Totally agree with that word for word

[Kato]

Obviously still quaffing his morning vino. Has suffered enough ffs....another thing, maybe tops the lot...Kwasi Kwartang was on as an "expert".

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[RyeSloan]

Looks like I'm not the only one to think this ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVz8clSWAAEQmlb?format=jpg&name=medium

Have you just used Paul Cavanagh, a columnist for the National and a rather ardent supporter of independence to suggest that your view of BBC bias might be shared by a National columnist and ardent independent supporter?

[grunt]

Have you just used Paul Cavanagh, a columnist for the National and a rather ardent supporter of independence to suggest that your view of BBC bias might be shared by a National columnist and ardent independent supporter?Looks like it. Seems I'm not the only one, eh?

[RyeSloan]

Looks like it. Seems I'm not the only one, eh?

Unless you are also Paul [emoji2957]

[Bostonhibby]

Not the BBC but ITV. Richard Madeley on GMTV this morning said "Prince Andrew has suffered enough", on the news that a photo of his infamous BBC interview was purchased by the National Portrait Gallery.

He also said Oasis broke "so much new ground" musically.

I don't know which one is worse.

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Boy's a bellend but could have been worse, the NPG could gave paid money for a picture of the Gallaghers and he could have said Handy Andy " broke so much new ground".

Guys never broken sweat.

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[Bostonhibby]

....another thing, maybe tops the lot...Kwasi Kwartang was on as an "expert".

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkAn expert in how to trash an economy overnight whilst simultaneously benefitting your hedge fund betting ex boss and donator?

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[Kato]

An expert in how to trash an economy overnight whilst simultaneously benefitting your hedge fund betting ex boss and donator?

Sent from my SM-A750FN using TapatalkNo, it was about knife crime and how dreadfully awful it is and how "something" needs to be done.

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[Bostonhibby]

No, it was about knife crime and how dreadfully awful it is and how "something" needs to be done.

Sent from my SM-A528B using TapatalkOutside his area of expertise again then.[emoji16]

Although his input here does sound insightful. Hopefully he shared it with his fellow consevative party MP's and ministers when they were in power and a position to do something about it.

"Something" sounds like just what's been missing all along.

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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/jonathan_k_cook/status/1832565444445618265?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[Stairway 2 7]

https://x.com/jonathan_k_cook/status/1832565444445618265?s=46&t=3pb_w_qndxJXScFNwz8V4A


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Like most times both sides of any debate always accuses the BBC of bias

https://inews.co.uk/news/media/bbc-rejects-claim-it-breached-guidelines-1500-times-with-gaza-coverage-3266890?srsltid=AfmBOoreRXMye_0R_NjNY9bKkwcDdPZ_GJ qzYvloK5-XlHB--IijEMce

BBC rejects claim it breached guidelines 1,500 times with Gaza coverage

[marinello59]

Like most times both sides of any debate always accuses the BBC of bias

https://inews.co.uk/news/media/bbc-rejects-claim-it-breached-guidelines-1500-times-with-gaza-coverage-3266890?srsltid=AfmBOoreRXMye_0R_NjNY9bKkwcDdPZ_GJ qzYvloK5-XlHB--IijEMce

BBC rejects claim it breached guidelines 1,500 times with Gaza coverage

Yewp, the BBC seems to be biased against everybody.

The reporting by the BBC journalists embedded in Gaza has been up there with the best. Sky has been good and Al Jazeera has been pretty even handed as well.

[grunt]

Like most times both sides of any debate always accuses the BBC of bias

https://inews.co.uk/news/media/bbc-rejects-claim-it-breached-guidelines-1500-times-with-gaza-coverage-3266890?srsltid=AfmBOoreRXMye_0R_NjNY9bKkwcDdPZ_GJ qzYvloK5-XlHB--IijEMce

BBC rejects claim it breached guidelines 1,500 times with Gaza coverageThis is quite an unbelievably naive take from you. You claim "both sides" when on one side you have the DEC, an international federation of aid agencies renowned for supporting disasters around the world for many years, saying the BBC is refusing to run their ad, and on the other side you have a discredited journalist writing in the Times of Israel that the BBC coverage has supported Hamas? This is the sort of "both sides" reporting that results in some people thinking the BBC is biased against everybody.


Yewp, the BBC seems to be biased against everybody. See?


The reporting by the BBC journalists embedded in Gaza has been up there with the best. Sky has been good and Al Jazeera has been pretty even handed as well.Agreed, although are there any BBC journalists left in Gaza now? I thought Israel refused access.

[grunt]

BBC rejects claim it breached guidelines 1,500 times with Gaza coverage

From the report you cite:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXCUNXZXgAETmJU?format=jpg&name=large
The author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Asserson

[Stairway 2 7]

This is quite an unbelievably naive take from you. You claim "both sides" when on one side you have the DEC, an international federation of aid agencies renowned for supporting disasters around the world for many years, saying the BBC is refusing to run their ad, and on the other side you have a discredited journalist writing in the Times of Israel that the BBC coverage has supported Hamas? This is the sort of "both sides" reporting that results in some people thinking the BBC is biased against everybody.

See?

Agreed, although are there any BBC journalists left in Gaza now? I thought Israel refused access.

The DEC haven't said anything a reporter has said a source said. The BBC say they are reviewing it as they have to before they show any national appeal. I've not got a clue either way I'll wait and see. It would be nieve to believe anything a reporter said as gospel. Both Trevor Asserton and Jonathan Cook aren't impartial and both constantly accuse the BBC of bias. It probably has slight bias but at least tries to be neutral unlike the National, the Guardian or the Mail ect

[Just Alf]

The DEC haven't said anything a reporter has said a source said. The BBC say they are reviewing it as they have to before they show any national appeal. I've not got a clue either way I'll wait and see. It would be nieve to believe anything a reporter said as gospel. Both Trevor Asserton and Jonathan Cook aren't impartial and both constantly accuse the BBC of bias. It probably has slight bias but at least tries to be neutral unlike the National, the Guardian or the Mail ectNo argument re the papers/Web site you mention.... they're not claiming to be impartial/independent.....

I do notice however that every time they (BBC) report on deaths in Palestinian they Always say "according to the HAMAS RUN health ministry "

No other news organisation says that EVERY TIME " when reporting the news.

It's almost like they're trying to put a bit of doubt on the numbers... even when elsewhere their own embedded reporters are confirming the numbers

[JimBHibees]

The DEC haven't said anything a reporter has said a source said. The BBC say they are reviewing it as they have to before they show any national appeal. I've not got a clue either way I'll wait and see. It would be nieve to believe anything a reporter said as gospel. Both Trevor Asserton and Jonathan Cook aren't impartial and both constantly accuse the BBC of bias. It probably has slight bias but at least tries to be neutral unlike the National, the Guardian or the Mail ect

Bbc is unbiased if you believe in empire and the establishment. Saying they are less biased than the Guardian simply wow. There is a reason most of their best news reporters have left.

[Hiber-nation]

BBC news is laughably biased against the SNP in Scotland and Labour in England & Wales. I don't know how anyone can dispute this. Just listen to Kaye Adams or watch Kuenssberg's Sunday show (difficult I know). I said laughably as it doesn't even bother me now, I just shake my head at now ridiculous it is.

[grunt]

The DEC haven't said anything a reporter has said a source said. The BBC say they are reviewing it as they have to before they show any national appeal. I've not got a clue either way I'll wait and see. It would be nieve to believe anything a reporter said as gospel. Both Trevor Asserton and Jonathan Cook aren't impartial and both constantly accuse the BBC of bias. It probably has slight bias but at least tries to be neutral unlike the National, the Guardian or the Mail ectI would dispute this.

[JimBHibees]

BBC news is laughably biased against the SNP in Scotland and Labour in England & Wales. I don't know how anyone can dispute this. Just listen to Kaye Adams or watch Kuenssberg's Sunday show (difficult I know). I said laughably as it doesn't even bother me now, I just shake my head at now ridiculous it is.

Absolutely laughable to say otherwise

[grunt]

Here's BBC bias of a different kind; anti Labour BBC bias.

Peter Oborne explains it concisely:


The BBC political editor (Chris Mason, 260K pa) thinks it's a story that the Downing Street chief of staff (Sue Gray 170K pa) earns more than the PM (167K pa).

Welcome to political journalism!

PS Laura Kuenssberg is on 325K, Nick Robinson 340K and Fiona Bruce even more.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx247wkq137o

[grunt]

Hibs avoids defeat in 2016 Scottish Cup Final

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rd0d0xjpxo

Scottish government avoids defeat over housing emergency 'failure'.

[lapsedhibee]

Kuennsberg 'mistakenly' tries to assist Johnson in his book-plugging exercise.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/03/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-laura-kuenssberg-briefing-notes

[Hiber-nation]

Kuennsberg 'mistakenly' tries to assist Johnson in his book-plugging exercise.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/03/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-laura-kuenssberg-briefing-notes

Well that's got to be the end for Laura at the Beeb, hasn't it.....:rolleyes:

[Ozyhibby]

Kuennsberg 'mistakenly' tries to assist Johnson in his book-plugging exercise.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/03/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-laura-kuenssberg-briefing-notes

I think the error was her staff were copied in.


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I think the error was her staff were copied in.


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Are you saying Johnson works for Kuenssberg? 😉

I always thought it was the other way around.

[Kato]

Kuennsberg 'mistakenly' tries to assist Johnson in his book-plugging exercise.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/oct/03/bbc-cancels-boris-johnson-interview-laura-kuenssberg-briefing-notesLike the time she "mistakenly" spliced the wrong answer to a question she posed to Corbyn.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/laura-kuenssberg-bbc-jeremy-corbyn_uk_587f60f7e4b03c70028b653a

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[grunt]

Can anyone please direct me to the page on the BBC News website where they report yesterday's two SNP wins in Dundee local elections?

[stantonhibby]

Can anyone please direct me to the page on the BBC News website where they report yesterday's two SNP wins in Dundee local elections?

Do they normally report on local council by elections? SNP lost 3 by elections last week (& won one tbf).....didn't see you calling the BBC out for not reporting that?

[grunt]

Do they normally report on local council by elections? SNP lost 3 by elections last week (& won one tbf).....didn't see you calling the BBC out for not reporting that?
Didn't know about it.

[Bostonhibby]

Well that's got to be the end for Laura at the Beeb, hasn't it.....:rolleyes:She absolutely adores Bozo, fawns over him in interview and this looks a case of being caught out or set up to have her bias exposed.
Opportunity to move her along? Perhaps some sort of media position for the next Nasty party leader?

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[JimBHibees]

Can anyone please direct me to the page on the BBC News website where they report yesterday's two SNP wins in Dundee local elections?

The policy is snp bad uk great so why would they do that

[Stairway 2 7]

The policy is snp bad uk great so why would they do that

I can't find the articles to SNPs council wins this month or their defeats last month. Less conspiracy and more it's just council elections

[JimBHibees]

I can't find the articles to SNPs council wins this month or their defeats last month. Less conspiracy and more it's just council elections

It is still the case though

[cabbageandribs1875]

hold on to yer hats if yer in Leith today, 17,164 MPH winds :greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/462444430_1498152120840802_8688136019392330934_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=CoevgFvnuEEQ7kNvgHdN6Q1&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=ARhkN7Tv6jlbbh0axD7Ee09&oh=00_AYCY2tG7jcwci_iZMeB0CMBIGF_hgoz-zrAQ020YMFgsjg&oe=670D873B

[Moulin Yarns]

hold on to yer hats if yer in Leith today, 17,164 MPH winds :greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/462444430_1498152120840802_8688136019392330934_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=CoevgFvnuEEQ7kNvgHdN6Q1&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=ARhkN7Tv6jlbbh0axD7Ee09&oh=00_AYCY2tG7jcwci_iZMeB0CMBIGF_hgoz-zrAQ020YMFgsjg&oe=670D873B

That's nothing compared to the 404 degrees overnight in Nottingham.

[cabbageandribs1875]

That's nothing compared to the 404 degrees overnight in Nottingham.

i'd lose about a stone in sweat overnight

[lapsedhibee]

hold on to yer hats if yer in Leith today, 17,164 MPH winds :greengrin

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/462444430_1498152120840802_8688136019392330934_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=CoevgFvnuEEQ7kNvgHdN6Q1&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=ARhkN7Tv6jlbbh0axD7Ee09&oh=00_AYCY2tG7jcwci_iZMeB0CMBIGF_hgoz-zrAQ020YMFgsjg&oe=670D873B

Took the pushbike out for a run to Moffat. Was brilliant. Left Edinburgh about 10 and arrived Moffat at 8.30. Bus back though, not cycling into that headwind.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Shockerooni BBC Scotland rapped by executive over false Anas Sarwar report | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24675679.bbc-scotland-rapped-executive-false-anas-sarwar-report/?ref=ebbn&nid=1457&u=8c7cbcbaa1741d7cbc339fe13eff0274&date=241024)

BBC (https://www.thenational.scot/news/media-and-the-bbc/) Scotland has been rapped by the corporation’s complaints executive after a report on Scottish Labour (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/labour/) leader Anas Sarwar (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24666521.anas-sarwar-news-updates-scottish-labour-msp-leader/) and the two-child limit.

The broadcaster's executive complaints unit (ECU) said that a claim made on BBC Radio Scotland that Sarwar wanted to see the two-child benefit cap scrapped “immediately” was supported by “no evidence”.
In a decision issued on Thursday, the ECU further said that BBC Scotland should have publicly acknowledged the mistake in the broadcast on July 23.
The ECU ruling comes after a listener raised concerns about a Good Morning Scotland report on the two-child benefit cap (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24512771.bbc-scotland-refuses-issue-correction-anas-sarwar-claim/).
Scottish Labour have claimed to oppose the cap, but have also voted to keep in place. (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24471994.scottish-labour-mps-vote-two-child-benefit-cap/)


they maybe don't realise how B B C scotland operate

[JimBHibees]

Shockerooni BBC Scotland rapped by executive over false Anas Sarwar report | The National (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24675679.bbc-scotland-rapped-executive-false-anas-sarwar-report/?ref=ebbn&nid=1457&u=8c7cbcbaa1741d7cbc339fe13eff0274&date=241024)

BBC (https://www.thenational.scot/news/media-and-the-bbc/) Scotland has been rapped by the corporation’s complaints executive after a report on Scottish Labour (https://www.thenational.scot/politics/labour/) leader Anas Sarwar (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24666521.anas-sarwar-news-updates-scottish-labour-msp-leader/) and the two-child limit.

The broadcaster's executive complaints unit (ECU) said that a claim made on BBC Radio Scotland that Sarwar wanted to see the two-child benefit cap scrapped “immediately” was supported by “no evidence”.
In a decision issued on Thursday, the ECU further said that BBC Scotland should have publicly acknowledged the mistake in the broadcast on July 23.
The ECU ruling comes after a listener raised concerns about a Good Morning Scotland report on the two-child benefit cap (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24512771.bbc-scotland-refuses-issue-correction-anas-sarwar-claim/).
Scottish Labour have claimed to oppose the cap, but have also voted to keep in place. (https://www.thenational.scot/news/24471994.scottish-labour-mps-vote-two-child-benefit-cap/)


they maybe don't realise how B B C scotland operate



Typical and par for the course. Impartial though

[Hiber-nation]

Labour being absolutely slaughtered in every media outlet except....good old BBC Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2mmwwvk4vo

[Ozyhibby]

https://bsky.app/profile/jessicaelgot.bsky.social/post/3latal4hfpk2x

Media related. Guardian moving off Twitter. Good news for Bluesky. There has been a fair bit of movement there recently and it’s now becoming viable for me to use.


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[Pretty Boy]

https://bsky.app/profile/jessicaelgot.bsky.social/post/3latal4hfpk2x

Media related. Guardian moving off Twitter. Good news for Bluesky. There has been a fair bit of movement there recently and it’s now becoming viable for me to use.


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The level of misinformation on Twitter now is frightening.

Not so much the misinformation as that has always been available but the way it is targeted. I set up a new X account a week or so ago for a project I am working on. I haven't followed anyone yet, haven't uploaded a picture, haven't tweeted and have only logged in twice. Went in last night and the 'for you' section is absolutely littered with right wing nonsense. It's 99% bull**** but if that is replicated with every user of the service that is a huge amount of propoganda and outright lies being thrust right in the faces of hundreds of millions of people.

[Ozyhibby]

The level of misinformation on Twitter now is frightening.

Not so much the misinformation as that has always been available but the way it is targeted. I set up a new X account a week or so ago for a project I am working on. I haven't followed anyone yet, haven't uploaded a picture, haven't tweeted and have only logged in twice. Went in last night and the 'for you' section is absolutely littered with right wing nonsense. It's 99% bull**** but if that is replicated with every user of the service that is a huge amount of propoganda and outright lies being thrust right in the faces of hundreds of millions of people.

I haven’t used the ‘for you’ function for a while but can only imagine how bad its got as it was really bad almost immediately he took over.
I’ve now moved Twitter off the front of my phone and replaced with Bluesky. Hoping it can take off. Lots of journos and writer on there now. Need the big news orgs to follow. Would also be good if the govt would switch.
Still, I’m finding it usable now.


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[silverhibee]

The level of misinformation on Twitter now is frightening.

Not so much the misinformation as that has always been available but the way it is targeted. I set up a new X account a week or so ago for a project I am working on. I haven't followed anyone yet, haven't uploaded a picture, haven't tweeted and have only logged in twice. Went in last night and the 'for you' section is absolutely littered with right wing nonsense. It's 99% bull**** but if that is replicated with every user of the service that is a huge amount of propoganda and outright lies being thrust right in the faces of hundreds of millions of people.

It is a very toxic place, I blocked Musk a few months a go as it was just a barrage of tweets and all misinformation from him, but as you say it is just a platform for right wing nut jobs and all of a sudden AMERICAN football witch I think Trump follows, I get the impression that European people are moving away from it and you get more crap posted from absolute nut jobs from USA.

[s.a.m]

https://bsky.app/profile/jessicaelgot.bsky.social/post/3latal4hfpk2x

Media related. Guardian moving off Twitter. Good news for Bluesky. There has been a fair bit of movement there recently and it’s now becoming viable for me to use.


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I made the move this week, and it's really picked up in the past few days. Each time I log on, I find more people/news organisations that I followed on Twitter. I'm just a reader, not a poster, but I kept putting off moving because I couldn't face having to find all the folk I follow on a new site. Twitter has become so virulently toxic, though, that I couldn't bear using it any longer. Bluesky is miles better. Hope they can keep it that way.

[J-C]

I have X or twitter for looking at any links on here or online, don't post on it but handy for looking at links, toxic place and even more so now it's not regulated.

[Just Alf]

I have X or twitter for looking at any links on here or online, don't post on it but handy for looking at links, toxic place and even more so now it's not regulated.I given it up totally, any links posted never get clicked on... some folks on here don't even post the detail when posting so it's really a waste of time as I'll not have a clue what it's about... funnily enough we were in the hibs club talking about social media (in relation to what's being said re our current situation) and lots of the guys say they do the same

[Moulin Yarns]

I given it up totally, any links posted never get clicked on... some folks on here don't even post the detail when posting so it's really a waste of time as I'll not have a clue what it's about... funnily enough we were in the hibs club talking about social media (in relation to what's being said re our current situation) and lots of the guys say they do the same

I'm exactly the same. One poster in particular is guilty.

[Ozyhibby]

I'm exactly the same. One poster in particular is guilty.

Wait till I start my Bluesky links.[emoji6]


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[Moulin Yarns]

Wait till I start my Bluesky links.[emoji6]


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I left twitter and moved over to threads. A lot more civil.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c30p1p0j0ddo.amp
Great to see. The onion buys infowars.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://bcounter.nat.vg/

Bluesky has live counter for new users. Now over 17m.


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[DaveF]

https://bcounter.nat.vg/

Bluesky has live counter for new users. Now over 17m.


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I never really did twitter but have joined this. Any recommendations for good accounts to follow?

[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/467568971_1121250406343303_762918539738748012_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=g-5sOW529WkQ7kNvgFhw3fg&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-1.fna&_nc_gid=A577vI85TBIeghwe-cbkv33&oh=00_AYCDqK8Kte2Oo4x2Ogn_6pd4yFYsdqDoBdUA63Np4W7M yg&oe=6749B1EA

unfortunately they forgot to mention to whom they were actually referring to, it was June Andrews. Labour activist, not just a Party member, but an actual door chapper

[grunt]

Not bias, but for years I've used the Market Data feeds on the BBC Business pages to monitor FTSE and other stock market performance. Today they announce they'll no longer be carrying these stock market feeds. Not entirely sure how much money this saves them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgl0zprpjeo


The BBC has discontinued its market data feeds on both the website and red button (UK only) services. We have previously provided delayed updates on major stock prices, currencies, and commodities.

[grunt]

Maybe it's not bias, simply incompetence?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yd9j8j62go

The trial of a woman accused of illegally aborting her baby collapsed due to "appalling and sloppy" reporting by the BBC, a judge has said.

[grunt]

Or maybe it is bias after all?

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28258


BBC staffers reveal editor's 'entire job' to whitewash Israeli war crimes

[JimBHibees]

Or maybe it is bias after all?

https://thecradle.co/articles-id/28258

Nothing would surprise me less

[grunt]

BBC here doing the bidding of the Lying Tories, Reform and Putin by criticising an undermining the UK Labour Government

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:pmfr2bkbibydlklaovqkj62m/bafkreib2en6uvi6hab24qxop23eufenytcg3cstidfz5plx7e yigv5uwtm@jpeg

[Moulin Yarns]

Reporting scotland extended to an hour to go to arran on a new ferry!!

[JimBHibees]

Reporting scotland extended to an hour to go to arran on a new ferry!!

What is this? Stopped watching it years ago so no idea

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r5076y05ko

No doubt the BBC will be learning yet more lessons. Until next time.[emoji849]


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[Kato]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8r5076y05ko

No doubt the BBC will be learning yet more lessons. Until next time.[emoji849]


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe "review" cost £662,062. Why wasn't just a police investigation which could well happening anyway.

The BBC's record on internal investigations is woeful.

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[Ozyhibby]

The "review" cost £662,062. Why wasn't just a police investigation which could well happening anyway.

The BBC's record on internal investigations is woeful.

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We love a good investigation or inquiry in this country. And we wonder why our productivity is so low.


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[Kato]

We love a good investigation or inquiry in this country. And we wonder why our productivity is so low.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"We'll make sure we put systems in place so that this never happens again, and again, and again...."

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[cabbageandribs1875]

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/480236905_9300974369959311_3742993570088508785_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=YLMWA8HJSeMQ7kNvgHKUzUr&_nc_oc=AdibimzNZ9IvK5d3wp_jGFw0CnzGWtH0pysivAw5C93 bxAJu8X23LpbO3BPLXRJfZ3k&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=Af1POJ5N9IGaeb3sC2G8U50&oh=00_AYAPBi1s4wYIPY_CvCFRZe8LmijOhqS72CvCC-cEXWdP4Q&oe=67B941AE

[grunt]

Here we go again

Article on BBC website. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04zw32qg06o

Headline Scotland misses targets on reducing child poverty

Paragraph headers:

The Scottish government has missed its legal targets for reducing child poverty.

Targets missed

'Deeply disappointed'

'More needs to be done'


And then, hidden at the bottom of the article

"they do show an improvement on previous years."
"They are also markedly better than the UK-wide ones, where relative poverty has increased to 31%."

But yeah, another failing from the SNP Scottish Government.

[Kato]

BBC last night reporting on the VE "celebrations".

"Quite rightly the Royal Family are front and centre of these events".

A family that would have sold us down the river if Adolf had invaded and had already been practicing their Seig Heil salutes for a few years, sure they should be front and centre.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

Ex BBC Producer Blows The Lid Off - Dorset Eye (https://dorseteye.com/ex-bbc-producer-blows-the-lid-off/)

The BBC has an agenda, and it is not to report the facts. It is to shape a narrative that supports the national interests of the British government. And that is why viewers receive a distorted perception of Israel’s genocide in Palestine – with the Corporation avoiding the use of the word “genocide,” failing to provide a platform for representatives of the Palestinian Authority – while at the same time platforming the unchallenged views of countless Israeli spokespersons and ardent Zionist supporters and mitigating the crimes and atrocities that have been perpetrated by the Israeli government over the decades.
In conclusion, there are some excellent current affairs journalists working at the corporation. However, they are kept on a tight leash and told when to bark and who to bark at. Some of the most dishonest people I have ever met are people I met walking the corridors of the BBC and occupying senior executive positions within the corporation. By and large, they are immoral, corrupt and unprincipled.

[JimBHibees]

Ex BBC Producer Blows The Lid Off - Dorset Eye (https://dorseteye.com/ex-bbc-producer-blows-the-lid-off/)

The BBC has an agenda, and it is not to report the facts. It is to shape a narrative that supports the national interests of the British government. And that is why viewers receive a distorted perception of Israel’s genocide in Palestine – with the Corporation avoiding the use of the word “genocide,” failing to provide a platform for representatives of the Palestinian Authority – while at the same time platforming the unchallenged views of countless Israeli spokespersons and ardent Zionist supporters and mitigating the crimes and atrocities that have been perpetrated by the Israeli government over the decades.
In conclusion, there are some excellent current affairs journalists working at the corporation. However, they are kept on a tight leash and told when to bark and who to bark at. Some of the most dishonest people I have ever met are people I met walking the corridors of the BBC and occupying senior executive positions within the corporation. By and large, they are immoral, corrupt and unprincipled.

No surprise and has been the case for years

[cabbageandribs1875]

No surprise and has been the case for years


they usually sing from the same hymn sheet protecting Sarwar, must have got their notes mixed up but i know which one i believe here (2) MSM Monitor on X: "STV News: Anas Sarwar has defended Keir Starmer's 'island of strangers' comment. BBC: Anas Sarwar has distanced himself from Keir Starmer's 'island of strangers' comment. Both can't be telling the truth. https://t.co/o4A6PQcePY" / X (https://x.com/msm_monitor/status/1922776767313457453?s=46&t=tnzsmQn7hctGq4ZUHsOBsQ&fbclid=IwY2xjawKSqztleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBNWm8yM G5ZVENuRTB4S3RwAR7HIajcHq5s8NGQ9-ZqoEaTB-dqbVKsu9PtnQQlAhWszhcc-Y9bYO0tkgpjKA_aem_mdRm8xarnDxz5_58CsWZwg)


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/498603956_3605683782895903_8726321319931137003_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=85k0gCoFQI0Q7kNvwEpjiXa&_nc_oc=Adn4FUVFlG7kYXFBLQrfbQw1auoirFFElJk9E1og38P BuCzNGxyH1t7Z-pM6OMRwhXY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=MCUaoXcTJoxQ8qEb3gZPaA&oh=00_AfLGe_qBjPRQX93Q9PuMMfQTF7IsfYK7yYNgujBo2-IegQ&oe=682B9509

[Kato]

they usually sing from the same hymn sheet protecting Sarwar, must have got their notes mixed up but i know which one i believe here (2) MSM Monitor on X: "STV News: Anas Sarwar has defended Keir Starmer's 'island of strangers' comment. BBC: Anas Sarwar has distanced himself from Keir Starmer's 'island of strangers' comment. Both can't be telling the truth. https://t.co/o4A6PQcePY" / X (https://x.com/msm_monitor/status/1922776767313457453?s=46&t=tnzsmQn7hctGq4ZUHsOBsQ&fbclid=IwY2xjawKSqztleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBNWm8yM G5ZVENuRTB4S3RwAR7HIajcHq5s8NGQ9-ZqoEaTB-dqbVKsu9PtnQQlAhWszhcc-Y9bYO0tkgpjKA_aem_mdRm8xarnDxz5_58CsWZwg)


https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/498603956_3605683782895903_8726321319931137003_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=85k0gCoFQI0Q7kNvwEpjiXa&_nc_oc=Adn4FUVFlG7kYXFBLQrfbQw1auoirFFElJk9E1og38P BuCzNGxyH1t7Z-pM6OMRwhXY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&_nc_gid=MCUaoXcTJoxQ8qEb3gZPaA&oh=00_AfLGe_qBjPRQX93Q9PuMMfQTF7IsfYK7yYNgujBo2-IegQ&oe=682B9509Remember Eric Blair's Ministry of Truth was based on his experiences working within Auntie Beeb.

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[grunt]

The BBC describes this woman as the Managing Director of a company of fish auctioneers. She complains about Brexit aspirations being stolen.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4cjuukbhfxvth6ueqwabkhxs/bafkreibeub4s2jispg4j6uq7t5ptlnyqduf534ufm7uv7yca3 s767og6ay@jpeg

They omit to mention she is also a Reform spokesperson and she was previously a Brexit party MEP. The BBC - our national broadcaster - is lying to you and misleading you.

[JimBHibees]

The BBC describes this woman as the Managing Director of a company of fish auctioneers. She complains about Brexit aspirations being stolen.

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4cjuukbhfxvth6ueqwabkhxs/bafkreibeub4s2jispg4j6uq7t5ptlnyqduf534ufm7uv7yca3 s767og6ay@jpeg

They omit to mention she is also a Reform spokesperson and she was previously a Brexit party MEP. The BBC - our national broadcaster - is lying to you and misleading you.

Ffs

[Ozyhibby]

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[MKHIBEE]

A report from The National

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25241932.bbcs-coverage-israels-war-gaza-shows-pattern-bias/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawK9GfJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFxakd0Z TdXMjJhZE4yVm5vAR6KPwEIlyvsjMMF7t3-AfGW6P2xeMihDvKjksHjSC5itf_TuFrTqJmuGcdAfg_aem_d_g CIo2oIrAp_z8RiQyP4Q#Echobox=1750078832

[grunt]

A report from The National

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25241932.bbcs-coverage-israels-war-gaza-shows-pattern-bias/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawK9GfJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFxakd0Z TdXMjJhZE4yVm5vAR6KPwEIlyvsjMMF7t3-AfGW6P2xeMihDvKjksHjSC5itf_TuFrTqJmuGcdAfg_aem_d_g CIo2oIrAp_z8RiQyP4Q#Echobox=1750078832
Wow, that's quite an article.


... the BBC asked 38 guests to condemn Hamas, it asked zero to condemn Israel's mass killing of civilians.


... we do not think due impartiality can be measured by counting words.

[MKHIBEE]

A report from The National

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25241932.bbcs-coverage-israels-war-gaza-shows-pattern-bias/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawK9GfJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFxakd0Z TdXMjJhZE4yVm5vAR6KPwEIlyvsjMMF7t3-AfGW6P2xeMihDvKjksHjSC5itf_TuFrTqJmuGcdAfg_aem_d_g CIo2oIrAp_z8RiQyP4Q#Echobox=1750078832

[Kato]

Wow, that's quite an article."we do not think due impartiality can be measured by counting words."

Weasely. That isn't counting words. It's counting questions.

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