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andrew70
22-03-2015, 12:10 AM
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/scott-allan-raising-the-bar-at-hibs-1-3725153?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

Interesting article about Allan and Stubbs. Everything coming out of the club is so positive

.Sean.
22-03-2015, 12:19 AM
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/scott-allan-raising-the-bar-at-hibs-1-3725153?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

Interesting article about Allan and Stubbs. Everything coming out of the club is so positive
Great time for everyone involved at the club right now and long may it continue!

murray26
22-03-2015, 12:20 AM
Good read.. Had no idea he was diabetic.. Fair play to the lad I like to see people overcome hurdles in life.

livi hibs 1875
22-03-2015, 12:21 AM
good read and if we go up he may stay around aslong as stubbs does

jabis
22-03-2015, 12:22 AM
http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/scott-allan-raising-the-bar-at-hibs-1-3725153?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it

Interesting article about Allan and Stubbs. Everything coming out of the club is so positive
Fantastic

bigstu
22-03-2015, 12:25 AM
He was fantastic the last time the Rangers came to town but has been a bit quieter by his standards the last 2 or 3 games we've played, hopefully he can regain his form again tomorrow!

murray26
22-03-2015, 12:27 AM
good read and if we go up he may stay around aslong as stubbs does

I think Stubbs would be a huge factor in whether he stays or goes .. That in going up of course.

livi hibs 1875
22-03-2015, 12:30 AM
I think Stubbs would be a huge factor in whether he stays or goes .. That in going up of course.

totally agree but i have a feeling even if the unthinkable happens in the playoffs he may decide to give it another year even in the chapmionship

O'Rourke3
22-03-2015, 12:30 AM
Stubb's comments on how he'll allow things like flicks to fail on the basis that the next one might win games is something we all need to learn. So many times we see a pass not coming off and depending on who makes it - boo or cheer. For me, I want to see my team try and be creative and not be afraid to lose the ball occasionally. With this current team, we look like winning the ball back. I'm not trying to get this turned into "it's the fans fault" thread but people round me scream to get the ball forward but when we do, scream when we lose it. Omelettes and eggs -you know...

murray26
22-03-2015, 12:35 AM
Stubb's comments on how he'll allow things like flicks to fail on the basis that the next one might win games is something we all need to learn. So many times we see a pass not coming off and depending on who makes it - boo or cheer. For me, I want to see my team try and be creative and not be afraid to lose the ball occasionally. With this current team, we look like winning the ball back. I'm not trying to get this turned into "it's the fans fault" thread but people round me scream to get the ball forward but when we do, scream when we lose it. Omelettes and eggs -you know.... Good point... The Easter road crowd should be more patient inmo.. Never going to happen.. Not in my experience anyway.

lord bunberry
22-03-2015, 12:54 AM
. Good point... The Easter road crowd should be more patient inmo.. Never going to happen.. Not in my experience anyway.
I don't think that's fair, the crowd at home is getting more positive as the games go by. We may not be getting the big crowds yet but those who are going are starting to appreciate what they're seeing.

murray26
22-03-2015, 01:02 AM
Fair enough.. Your never going to get %100 people acting the same.. Personally speaking I'm enjoying what I'm seeing.

poolman
22-03-2015, 02:46 AM
I think we have a diamond in Stubbsy,

I hope he's at Hibs for a long time, but I think bigger clubs might come calling

ALF TUPPER
22-03-2015, 06:22 AM
I don't think that's fair, the crowd at home is getting more positive as the games go by. We may not be getting the big crowds yet but those who are going are starting to appreciate what they're seeing.

Yeah. I agree. At the Livi game the crowd burst into applause after a passing sequence ended up failing. No boos or jeering just applause for the guys efforts....Brilliant! Everything feels really positive around ER these day. The support are buying into the Stubbs' reign too.

If you haven't been to see Hibs for a while and can manage / afford to , get yourself along today. Never mind the telly! Come and see it. GGTTH

bingo70
22-03-2015, 06:53 AM
Interesting to hear how he deals with diabetes.

My wife is diabetic and before I met her I was extremely ignorant to the condition. The tiredness and dietry requirements must be a nightmare for him. Out of curiosity does anyone know if he's on an insulin pump?

Think Steve redgrave is type one diabetic, not sure of many other diabetic sports people, sounds like we've got our own specialists on the case but be interesting to see how he dealt with it and if there's anything he did differently that could be passed onto Scott Allan.

Hibeewilly
22-03-2015, 07:23 AM
Great article. Keep up the good work Scotty. I feel a MoM award coming on for you today. The stage is set!!

Pretty Boy
22-03-2015, 08:17 AM
The stand out part for me is when Stubbs says he tries to focus on the positives in Allan rather than looking for the negative.

When you have a player with such stand out natural ability it stands to reason they won't perform at the same heights every week. As Stubbs says he had a poor game at Ibrox yet still had one flash that set up the opening goal. We have seen this before with a player like Derek Riordan who was so naturally gifted that when he waan't at his best people went searching for weaknesses; he was 'lazy', 'not a team player' etc. They always justified this as 'wanting more' but if Stubbs is happy with what Allan is doing then that's good enough for me.

wookie70
22-03-2015, 08:17 AM
Excellent article with Stubbs and Allen both coming accross very well.

JimBHibees
22-03-2015, 08:20 AM
The stand out part for me is when Stubbs says he tries to focus on the positives in Allan rather than looking for the negative.

When you have a player with such stand out natural ability it stands to reason they won't perform at the same heights every week. As Stubbs says he had a poor game at Ibrox yet still had one flash that set up the opening goal. We have seen this before with a player like Derek Riordan who was so naturally gifted that when he waan't at his best people went searching for weaknesses; he was 'lazy', 'not a team player' etc. They always justified this as 'wanting more' but if Stubbs is happy with what Allan is doing then that's good enough for me.

Agree totally he can see passes no one else on the pitch can. Think he will be getting some attention from our opponents today. Hope he does what he did in the 4 0 match. Fantastic player to watch on his day.

Oscar T Grouch
22-03-2015, 08:27 AM
Interesting to hear how he deals with diabetes.

My wife is diabetic and before I met her I was extremely ignorant to the condition. The tiredness and dietry requirements must be a nightmare for him. Out of curiosity does anyone know if he's on an insulin pump?

Think Steve redgrave is type one diabetic, not sure of many other diabetic sports people, sounds like we've got our own specialists on the case but be interesting to see how he dealt with it and if there's anything he did differently that could be passed onto Scott Allan.

It is interesting to hear he's diabetic. Very few professional sports people are diabetic just because of the difficulty controlling your bloods while active. I find it hard to maintain a good blood sugar cycling for 20 minutes and find the dips in my levels a few hours after exercise hard to deal with. I have been diabetic longer than Scott Allan has been alive though 😳. It would be interesting to hear what the university is doing in respect of the monitoring and controlling of his sugar levels, not sure if a pump would be the best option for him, but every diabetic is different and the technology in diabetic control is immense Compaired to what it was when I was first diagnosed.

Hibeewilly
22-03-2015, 09:01 AM
The stand out part for me is when Stubbs says he tries to focus on the positives in Allan rather than looking for the negative.

When you have a player with such stand out natural ability it stands to reason they won't perform at the same heights every week. As Stubbs says he had a poor game at Ibrox yet still had one flash that set up the opening goal. We have seen this before with a player like Derek Riordan who was so naturally gifted that when he waan't at his best people went searching for weaknesses; he was 'lazy', 'not a team player' etc. They always justified this as 'wanting more' but if Stubbs is happy with what Allan is doing then that's good enough for me.
100% agree. Scott Allan is a matchwinner

PPZPOL
22-03-2015, 09:27 AM
Stubb's comments on how he'll allow things like flicks to fail on the basis that the next one might win games is something we all need to learn. So many times we see a pass not coming off and depending on who makes it - boo or cheer. For me, I want to see my team try and be creative and not be afraid to lose the ball occasionally. With this current team, we look like winning the ball back. I'm not trying to get this turned into "it's the fans fault" thread but people round me scream to get the ball forward but when we do, scream when we lose it. Omelettes and eggs -you know...

:top marks

Reading a book at moment and Scott Allan sprung to mind when I was reading this part -

"Players will lose possession of the ball - it is an occupational hazard, especially amongst those of us who are brave on the ball and try to make things happen and don't mind the crowd getting on our backs for giving the ball away when trying to create a chance for another. Fans should always try to recognise when a player is attempting to make something happen and refrain from jeering him if he gives it away. After all, the game is about scoring goals, and a team can't do that if it doesn't have players who are prepared to accept that they will sometimes have their through-ball cut out"

He's a special player who I personally love to watch. Even when he isn't having one of his best games he doesn't hide.

The_Exile
22-03-2015, 09:59 AM
It is interesting to hear he's diabetic. Very few professional sports people are diabetic just because of the difficulty controlling your bloods while active. I find it hard to maintain a good blood sugar cycling for 20 minutes and find the dips in my levels a few hours after exercise hard to deal with. I have been diabetic longer than Scott Allan has been alive though 😳. It would be interesting to hear what the university is doing in respect of the monitoring and controlling of his sugar levels, not sure if a pump would be the best option for him, but every diabetic is different and the technology in diabetic control is immense Compaired to what it was when I was first diagnosed.

Agreed, I was diagnosed in 1991 when we had big muckle syringes. Now I'm on a pump and it's a breeze. I also struggle to maintain healthy levels whilst active and is the reason I jacked football in when I was younger. Massive respect to Scott for being able to play at the highest level with all the issues and planning it must take.

Danderhall Hibs
22-03-2015, 10:07 AM
Was it Steve Redgrave that managed his diabetes as well as a sporting career?

Don't know how many others have managed to control it and continue a sporting career.

CentreLine
22-03-2015, 10:10 AM
Was it Steve Redgrave that managed his diabetes as well as a sporting career?

Don't know how many others have managed to control it and continue a sporting career.

Only one I can think of was Danny McGrain. What a great servant he was to Scotland in a great era. But not as good as Onon :not worth

bigwheel
22-03-2015, 10:14 AM
Only one I can think of was Danny McGrain. What a great servant he was to Scotland in a great era. But not as good as Onon :not worth


Oh that would be a hard choice tbh....Brownlie was superb, and without injury no doubt would have had many more caps...McGrain, to be fair..was also a class act...superb full back

Oscar T Grouch
22-03-2015, 10:16 AM
Only one I can think of was Danny McGrain. What a great servant he was to Scotland in a great era. But not as good as Onon :not worth

Gary Mabutt was a type 1 diabetic too. Whilst golf isn't exactly high impact aerobic sport Scott Verplank is a type 1.

TRC
22-03-2015, 10:20 AM
Im a type one diabetic and the one that was held up to me when i was younger was Gary Mabbut. Playing sport was a massive part of my life groing up, so i know how hard it can be to control playing sport.

cabbageandribs1875
22-03-2015, 10:23 AM
i'l show him mines, if he shows me his

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4443093872_a3336cc924.jpg

:greengrin

apart from steve redgrave the only other sportsperson of note with type 1 (that i can think off just now) was former spurs player and captain Gary Mabbutt :agree: no chance scott allan will wear a pump playing football, and i doubt very much he wears one with all the training as well, and i would imagine too much faffin about taking injections on days off then transferring to a pump every 2nd day or whatever when not training(imo)

we can thank the SNP government for our pumps btw :wink:

Oscar T Grouch
22-03-2015, 10:35 AM
i'l show him mines, if he shows me his

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4443093872_a3336cc924.jpg

:greengrin

apart from steve redgrave the only other sportsperson of note with type 1 (that i can think off just now) was former spurs player and captain Gary Mabbutt :agree: no chance scott allan will wear a pump playing football, and i doubt very much he wears one with all the training as well, and i would imagine too much faffin about taking injections on days off then transferring to a pump every 2nd day or whatever when not training(imo)

we can thank the SNP government for our pumps btw :wink:

That looks cool as. I have never been offered a pump. I was still using syringes up to 6 years ago. On the pens now and never had better control, although I do suffer from insulting resistance and I have retinopathy from years of ignoring my condition.

The_Exile
22-03-2015, 11:03 AM
I lost all hypo awareness and was actually on the transplant list for islet cells but thankfully got offered the pump and it's been a revelation. Mine is the same as yours cabbage, minimed paradigm veo.

GlasgowHibee
22-03-2015, 03:48 PM
Must do a lot better if he ever wants to progress onto a higher level of football than what he's currently at. It's all great and dandy when doing it against Cowdenbeath, but he needs to show his worth in the big games.

Acted like a petulant child today at times.

Phil D. Rolls
22-03-2015, 04:14 PM
Made an arse of it today. Yes, there are positives, but today it was the negatives that mattered.

I've not seen him for the whole season, but that run at the second half KO, when he tried to beat the entire team single handed, sums up what I've seen.

21.05.2016
22-03-2015, 04:16 PM
Rangers set up today to stop our midfield and to stop the like of Allan getting any space. The 4-0 Allan had so much space and in turn ran an absolute riot - they didn't allow that today.

Phil D. Rolls
22-03-2015, 04:20 PM
Rangers set up today to stop our midfield and to stop the like of Allan getting any space. The 4-0 Allan had so much space and in turn ran an absolute riot - they didn't allow that today.

Hate to admit it but McCall got his tactics right. A soft line on physical play from the ref was all they needed.

21.05.2016
22-03-2015, 04:23 PM
Hate to admit it but McCall got his tactics right. A soft line on physical play from the ref was all they needed.

Yep. They set out to stiffle the play because they can't handle the likes of Allan. Gutless Collum played right into their hands. They niggled away at us to stop the game following and allowing them to get men back.

Alfred E Newman
22-03-2015, 04:42 PM
Hate to admit it but McCall got his tactics right. A soft line on physical play from the ref was all they needed.

You are right. Hibs were poor today and Rangers were better helped by a soft ref who allowed them to commit an endless stream of niggling fouls which broke up the game . It's not the end of the world though as some on here are making out. They will be shouting for Stubbs head next.

HFC 0-7
22-03-2015, 04:45 PM
Hate to admit it but McCall got his tactics right. A soft line on physical play from the ref was all they needed.

We did nothing to try and combat those tactics though. It was plain to see what they were trying to do but we didn't try to change which in the end cost us. The way we set out meant player like Allan couldn't play as freely as they wanted.

Phil D. Rolls
22-03-2015, 04:46 PM
You are right. Hibs were poor today and Rangers were better helped by a soft ref who allowed them to commit an endless stream of niggling fouls which broke up the game . It's not the end of the world though as some on here are making out. They will be shouting for Stubbs head next.

It's still work in progress. We obviously missed Cummings, and if Dje Dje had taken that chance, I feel it might have been an interesting close to the game.

Phil D. Rolls
22-03-2015, 04:47 PM
We did nothing to try and combat those tactics though. It was plain to see what they were trying to do but we didn't try to change which in the end cost us. The way we set out meant player like Allan couldn't play as freely as they wanted.

No plan B at this point, need to build the squad.

frazeHFC
22-03-2015, 04:51 PM
Scott Allan is a class player but the last few months he's been really poor. The 4-0 game he bossed the game but today was struggling.

stokesmessiah
22-03-2015, 04:56 PM
The dead ball situations were what really annoyed me today. Lost count of the amount of balls that were terrible.

Alfred E Newman
22-03-2015, 05:01 PM
Scott Allan is a class player but the last few months he's been really poor. The 4-0 game he bossed the game but today was struggling.

To say that Allan has been poor for months is nonsense. He struggled like the rest of the Hibs midfield today but no worse than anyone else.
I still think the main culprits today were the strikers. Their lack of movement made it easy for the Rangers back 3 and gave the likes of Allan and Fyfie little chance of opening up the defence.

HH81
22-03-2015, 05:08 PM
Allan was very poor today. So many very poor passes and hardly hit a Hibs man all day.

Pete
22-03-2015, 05:10 PM
To be fair I don't think Rangers allowed him to play as they pressed really well for long periods.

Dean Shiels and Lee Wallace did their jobs well I thought.

Billy Whizz
22-03-2015, 05:15 PM
Does his booking today mean he's due a one game ban?

Tyler Durden
22-03-2015, 05:16 PM
I think some people are going a bit OTT about Wallaces performance today and McCall out thinking Stubbs. Wallace for me was fortunate to find Gray and Watson in poor form.

First goal Gray was miles out of position and nobody filled in for him. Aswell as DjeDje failing to stop Rangers take the free kick quickly to knock it into Grays area.

Second half Watson just lost the battle with Wallace. Was too easily dispossessed and caught with ball inside him too often. Just poor performances by 2 Hibs players who have rarely been worse than 8/10 performers to date.

Wallace got lucky break for his goal, should've been booked for his part in goal 2. Otherwise was he that good or threatening to us? Not for me

Scottie
22-03-2015, 05:20 PM
Allan was very poor today. So many very poor passes and hardly hit a Hibs man all day.
:agree:Disappointed in Scott today but over the piece this season he's been great

Danderhall Hibs
22-03-2015, 05:24 PM
:agree:Disappointed in Scott today but over the piece this season he's been great

It feels like folk say this every week.

Cod Boy
22-03-2015, 05:26 PM
Does his booking today mean he's due a one game ban?

It was a stupid booking as well he lost the plot for that

ancient hibee
22-03-2015, 05:47 PM
Scott Allan has been our best player this season.

Unseen work
22-03-2015, 05:50 PM
Was one of our best players today, great close control but had no one to pass to the majority of the time.

He was meant to be playing behind the striker but had to come far too deep to recieve it leaving us with not a lot to link up top

Crammond Hibee
22-03-2015, 05:50 PM
:agree:Disappointed in Scott today but over the piece this season he's been great

I agree
Very poor today
As were others
Especially the strikers

WillowbraeHibby
22-03-2015, 05:50 PM
Scott Allan has been our best player this season.


He just gets a wee bit frustrated at times, when things aren't going well, but, he is just human.

Sometimes I think he tries too much to impress, but all in all, still happy that he is one of ours...

erin go bragh
22-03-2015, 06:21 PM
Does his booking today mean he's due a one game ban?

Pretty sure the een had said he was one booking away from a ban .


Ggtth

hibsbollah
22-03-2015, 06:28 PM
My concern with Allan is he looks great the poorer the opposition. I want to see him put a stranglehold on a derby or against Nicky Law type player across from him before I compare him with a Beuzelin. I think he's a very talented player who needs to play against a higher standard than cowdenbeath and alloa.

Billy Whizz
22-03-2015, 06:32 PM
Pretty sure the een had said he was one booking away from a ban .


Ggtth

Would miss the Dumbarton away game

Bishop Hibee
22-03-2015, 06:41 PM
Would miss the Dumbarton away game

If he's going to miss one it wouldn't be bad if it was this.

Billy Whizz
22-03-2015, 06:43 PM
If he's going to miss one it wouldn't be bad if it was this.

Ban usually kicks in 14 days after
Think JC is only one booking away from a ban as well

AK86
22-03-2015, 08:21 PM
Scott Allan is a good player for sure.
unfortunately , he isn't as good as he thinks he is.

Swedish hibee
22-03-2015, 09:14 PM
Scott Allan is a good player for sure.
unfortunately , he isn't as good as he thinks he is.

I'll take a team of Scott Allan's anyday :agree:

Phil D. Rolls
22-03-2015, 09:17 PM
Scott Allan is a good player for sure.
unfortunately , he isn't as good as he thinks he is.

:agree:

Smartie
22-03-2015, 10:21 PM
I wonder if Stubbs is the man to get the best out of him and I don't think that he way he has spoken about him in the press the last few days has shown any sign that he knows how to make Allan a better player.

Yes we have to be patient and accept that he will sometimes try difficult things that don't come off. But some of what he was trying to attempt today was ridiculous. Trying to beat too many men, those "scooped' passes over the top, world cup ball after world cup ball.

What Allan needs to add to his game is the odd 5 yard sideways ball. It is a team game, and we have more than one player who can hurt teams. Even Messi plays many simple passes in every game. If he is more willing to play simple passes he gets even harder to play against because he becomes more unpredictable.

He was absolutely garbage today and for me has been average for the past couple of months, looking good at times because of the poor standard of opposition.

The reason I find it frustrating is because I think he is an absolutely magnificent player, every bit as good as he thinks he is and has the potential to reach the very top. But he's not yet perfect - far from it - and has a lot of work to do, along with getting the correct guidance along the way.

Danderhall Hibs
22-03-2015, 10:25 PM
I wonder if Stubbs is the man to get the best out of him and I don't think that he way he has spoken about him in the press the last few days has shown any sign that he knows how to make Allan a better player.

Yes we have to be patient and accept that he will sometimes try difficult things that don't come off. But some of what he was trying to attempt today was ridiculous. Trying to beat too many men, those "scooped' passes over the top, world cup ball after world cup ball.

What Allan needs to add to his game is the odd 5 yard sideways ball. It is a team game, and we have more than one player who can hurt teams. Even Messi plays many simple passes in every game. If he is more willing to play simple passes he gets even harder to play against because he becomes more unpredictable.

He was absolutely garbage today and for me has been average for the past couple of months, looking good at times because of the poor standard of opposition.

The reason I find it frustrating is because I think he is an absolutely magnificent player, every bit as good as he thinks he is and has the potential to reach the very top. But he's not yet perfect - far from it - and has a lot of work to do, along with getting the correct guidance along the way.

I called this out pre-Christmas and have been pretty much rubbished by the majority for saying it.

Cameron1875
22-03-2015, 10:35 PM
Unfortunately today's performance is the reason why he bounced around English clubs before being released.

Get someone else on corner duties too!

cabbageandribs1875
23-03-2015, 10:07 AM
That looks cool as. I have never been offered a pump. I was still using syringes up to 6 years ago. On the pens now and never had better control, although I do suffer from insulting resistance and I have retinopathy from years of ignoring my condition.


it's a great peace of kit :agree: you should ask to be put on the waiting list at your next clinic visit, you have to do a week-long 'DAFNE' training course, i learned more in that one week than in the previous 20+ years at my local clinic, the scottish govt has ploughed in a lot of serious dosh to enable newly diagnosed kids/adults to get access to a pump, it will save the NHS a lot of money in the long run, i went from 6 (often painful) injections/day, to a small painless injection once every 3 or 4 days, it's a no brainer mate, get your name down :greengrin