New TV deal

[Ozyhibby]

http://www.thefootballlife.co.uk/

This is worth a read for anyone interested in a better TV deal for Scottish football. It's basically a summary of a proposal that is one the table for a digital streaming channel. A lot of interesting points.

[The_Exile]

Interesting read that. 250,000 subs to break even, and he reckons 500,000 is achievable, not sure TBH as a lot of folk seem set in their ways with regards to Sky/BT Sports. It would depend on the monthly sub cost but I would probably subscribe if it meant a more balanced and comprehensive coverage of the game up here.

[green&left]

Some figures from recent TV games north and south of the border...


Tuesday 3rd March
BT1 @ 7:45pm - Aston Villa v WBA - 444,000

Wednesday 4th March
BT1 @ 7:45pm - Newcastle v Man Utd - 756,000

Friday 6th March
BT1 @ 7:45pm - Fulham v Bournemouth - 187,000

Saturday 7th March
BT1 @ 12pm - Bradford v Wigan - 389,000

Sunday 8th March
SS1 @ 12:30pm - Hibs v Berwick Rangers - 169,000
BT1 @ 3:15pm - Liverpool v Blackburn - 860,000
SS1 @ 3pm - Dundee United v Celtic - 301,000


Wednesday 25 February
SS5 @ 7:45pm - Arsenal v Monaco - 746,000

Thursday 26 February
BT1 @ 6pm - Fiorentina v Spurs - 141,000
BT1 @ 6pm - Inter v Celtic - 118,000
ITV4 @ 6pm - Besiktas v Liverpool - 1,779,000

Friday 27 February
BT1 @ 8pm - Falkirk v Rangers - 150,000

Saturday 28 February
SS1 @ 12pm - West Ham v Crystal Palace - 674,000

Sunday 1st March
SS1 @ 12pm - Liverpool v Man City - 1,308,000
SS3 @ 12pm - Celtic v Aberdeen - 107,000
BT1 @ 1:30pm - Arsenal v Everton - 371,000
SS1 @ 2pm - Chelsea v Spurs (final) - 1,258,000
SS3 @ 2pm - Norwich v Ipswich - 333,000



Scottish Friday Night Games
Rangers v Hibs - 182,000
QOTS v Raners - 170,000
Falkirk v Rangers - 128,000
Raith v Rangers (2) - 110,000
Raith v Rangers - 86,000
Patrick v St Mirren (75,000 - free weekend on BT Sport)
Aberdeen v Motherwell - 64,000
Hamilton v Aberdeen - 63,000
Kilmarnock v Dundee Utd - 55,000
St Johnstone v Aberdeen - 48,000
Patrick v St Mirren (2) - 47,000
Motherwell v Dundee Utd - 42,000
Ross County v Dundee Utd - 39,000
St Johnstone v Motherwell -34,000


Thursday 19 February
ITV4 @ 6pm - Besiktas v Liverpool - 807,000
BT1 @ 8pm - Inter v Celtic - 170,000
BT2 @ 8pm - Fiorentina v Tottenham - 218,000

Friday 20 February
BT1 @ 7:30pm - Raith v Rangers - 110,000

Saturday 21 February
SS1 @ 12pm - Middlesbrough v Leeds - 462,000
SS1 @ 5:30pm - Man City v Newcastle - 910,000

Sunday 22 February
BT1 @ 12pm - Tottenham v West Ham - 543,000
SS1 @ 2pm - Everton v Leicester - 1,000,000
SS1 @ 4pm - Southampton v Liverpool - 1,952,000


Season before they died figures for the 4 derbies were:

18/09/11 - Rangers v Celtic - SS2 - 624,000
28/12/11 - Celtic v Rangers - SS1 - 851,000
25/03/12 - Rangers v Celtic - SS1 - 608,000
29/04/12 - Celtic v Rangers - SS4 - 454,000 (this game was in direct competition with Chelsea v QPR on SS1)


Make of that what you will but looking at some of those figures (especially the ones struggling to get 40k viewers) I think the article is way off from what they can expect subscription wise. Also kinda shows why our televised deal is so pish :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

Some figures from recent TV games north and south of the border...










Make of that what you will but looking at some of those figures (especially the ones struggling to get 40k viewers) I think the article is way off from what they can expect subscription wise. Also kinda shows why our televised deal is so pish :greengrin

If you can get 300,000 people watching Dundee utd v Celtic and 170k watching Hibs v Berwick then its not hard to imagine that 500k would sign up at a very cheap 5 pound a month. If that can be acheived it almost doubles the income from the current deal. What makes you think that these figures can't be acheived?

[The_Exile]

If you can get 300,000 people watching Dundee utd v Celtic and 170k watching Hibs v Berwick then its not hard to imagine that 500k would sign up at a very cheap 5 pound a month. If that can be acheived it almost doubles the income from the current deal. What makes you think that these figures can't be acheived?

Fiver a month is great value, presuming that would give access to a streaming app and on demand content too in time.

[green&left]

If you can get 300,000 people watching Dundee utd v Celtic and 170k watching Hibs v Berwick then its not hard to imagine that 500k would sign up at a very cheap 5 pound a month. If that can be acheived it almost doubles the income from the current deal. What makes you think that these figures can't be acheived?

They were both important Scottish Cup quarter final matches that even a neutral would take an interest in.

If you look at the flip side Ross County v Dundee Utd and St Johnstone v Motherwell both had under 40k viewers. Even The Rangers and Celtic league matches are hovering around the 100k mark.

[Ozyhibby]

They were both important Scottish Cup quarter final matches that even a neutral would take an interest in.

If you look at the flip side Ross County v Dundee Utd and St Johnstone v Motherwell both had under 40k viewers. Even The Rangers and Celtic league matches are hovering around the 100k mark.

Some games are more popular than others which is why you bundle the games up into one subscription. For you £5 a month you get about 20 games, some of which may be unexciting but will also include and old firm game (1.2m viewers) or an Edinburgh derby.

[CB_NO3]

If you can get 300,000 people watching Dundee utd v Celtic and 170k watching Hibs v Berwick then its not hard to imagine that 500k would sign up at a very cheap 5 pound a month. If that can be acheived it almost doubles the income from the current deal. What makes you think that these figures can't be acheived?
Pretty sure they were the only two games on Skysports that day. If there was a premiership card on that weekend they figures would have been halved.