Tonight's games

[Sir David Gray]

Arsenal 0-1 Monaco

[CB_NO3]

If you're born in Monaco do you play for France?

[Sir David Gray]

If your born in Monaco do you play for France?

Couldn't tell you to be honest.

I wouldn't have thought so.

[Pretty Boy]

If you're born in Monaco do you play for France?

Monaco have a national team who aren't FIFA members. They play giants like Tibet, Vatican City etc

I've no idea of the answer to your question although I'd guess the answer would be no. I'd imagine many would qualify for France anyway though due to the parent and granparent rule. There's more French people in Monaco than there are Monegasques

[SteveHFC]

2-0

Arsenal :faf:

[Sir David Gray]

Arsenal 0-2 Monaco, Berbatov

Tie over.

[heretoday]

Good old Berbs! The stroller!

[matty_f]

Arsenal have been brutal! They've got nothing about them tonight, they look like they can't be ersed.

[Hibby Bairn]

Boy at the back for Monaco has been immense. What desire.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Not many of Arsenal's strongest XI would get into the starting line up of City, Chelsea, Man United and even Liverpool or Tottenham imho.

[Sir David Gray]

Arsenal 1-2 Monaco, Oxlade-Chamberlain

[SteveHFC]

:top marks

[Sir David Gray]

Arsenal 1-3 Monaco

[CB_NO3]

Think Sky need to pump another 20 billion into the EPL.

[Winston Ingram]

:tee hee:

[Hibby Bairn]

Never heard Berbatov talk before. Seems a good guy and speaks well about the game.

[Onion]

Think Sky need to pump another 20 billion into the EPL.

:tee hee:

[Sir David Gray]

Tonight's other Champions League match ended Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid.

So that means that the scores from the first legs of the eight last 16 ties are;

Arsenal 1-3 Monaco
Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid
Juventus 2-1 Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City 1-2 Barcelona
Basel 1-1 Porto
Schalke 0-2 Real Madrid
Paris Saint Germain 1-1 Chelsea
Shakhtar Donetsk 0-0 Bayern Munich

I would say the writing's on the wall for Arsenal, Manchester City and Schalke, considering that they need to overcome a deficit in an away match in the second leg.

[Hibby Bairn]

Tonight's other Champions League match ended Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid.

So that means that the scores from the first legs of the eight last 16 ties are;

Arsenal 1-3 Monaco
Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid
Juventus 2-1 Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City 1-2 Barcelona
Basel 1-1 Porto
Schalke 0-2 Real Madrid
Paris Saint Germain 1-1 Chelsea
Shakhtar Donetsk 0-0 Bayern Munich

I would say the writing's on the wall for Arsenal, Manchester City and Schalke, considering that they need to overcome a deficit in an away match in the second leg.

Last 8 to be

Monaco
Juventus
Athletico
Porto
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Chelsea
Bayern

[hfc rd]

Tonight's other Champions League match ended Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid.

So that means that the scores from the first legs of the eight last 16 ties are;

Arsenal 1-3 Monaco
Bayer Leverkusen 1-0 Atletico Madrid
Juventus 2-1 Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City 1-2 Barcelona
Basel 1-1 Porto
Schalke 0-2 Real Madrid
Paris Saint Germain 1-1 Chelsea
Shakhtar Donetsk 0-0 Bayern Munich

I would say the writing's on the wall for Arsenal, Manchester City and Schalke, considering that they need to overcome a deficit in an away match in the second leg.


Monaco, Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, FC Porto, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern Munich.

That's my predictions for the 1/4 finals.

[Iggy Pope]

Listening to the post mortem and Souness loves talking up brutality. He's stopped short of nutting Thierry and forcing Jamie's severed bollox into Stellings gob but it's coming. Knob. Wonder if he's held onto his shares.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not many of Arsenal's strongest XI would get into the starting line up of City, Chelsea, Man United and even Liverpool or Tottenham imho.More Arsenal players would get into United, Spurs or Liverpool than the other way around.

[Alex Trager]

More Arsenal players would get into United, Spurs or Liverpool than the other way around.

I think arsenal have a very strong team in parts.
Not so strong in the other.

I wonder when England and the EPL will realise that cash has made it have an inflated sense of self, one that year after year gets brought down to earth with the champions league and international tournaments


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[Wheat Hound]

Madonna played well I thought...

[ScottM1875]

Madonna played well I thought...

Should be given a fine for that dive tho...

[matty_f]

Should be given a fine for that dive tho...

Think she had her shirt pulled, to be fair.

[Fergus52]

Not many of Arsenal's strongest XI would get into the starting line up of City, Chelsea, Man United and even Liverpool or Tottenham imho.

Arsenals best XI would all stroll into Liverpool or tottenhams team.

[blackpoolhibs]

Daft as it sounds, i still think Arsenal will go through in this tie.

[blackpoolhibs]

Ballotelli is going to be sent off tonight.

[jdships]

Arsenals best XI would all stroll into Liverpool or tottenhams team.

All a matter of opinion :greengrin
Arsenal this season " flatter to deceive " and aren't anything like a great side - sad;y !

[leither17]

Arsenals best XI would all stroll into Liverpool or tottenhams team.

I would take Carzola and Sanchez at anfield the rest are imposters

[Scouse Hibee]

Arsenals best XI would all stroll into Liverpool or tottenhams team.

Haha

[IrnBru22]

Van Dijk sent off for celtic . Still 0-0

[Onion]

Celtic having to play to normal away-ground rules for a change - no dodgy pens and players getting yellowed for fouls :greengrin

That'll be the fault of Scottish Refs for making it too easy for them of course :thumbsup:

[Hibby Bairn]

Van Dijk sent off for celtic . Still 0-0

Pity. But of a game spoiler. Was open and attacking game up until then.

Can't believe they took GMS off and left Johanssen on. He is mince imo.

[bigwheel]

Pity. But of a game spoiler. Was open and attacking game up until then.

Can't believe they took GMS off and left Johanssen on. He is mince imo.

Opinions huh. I think he had been one of the stars of the season ...

[Thegreenside]

Opinions huh. I think he had been one of the stars of the season ...

Think he has been one of their best players, think the stats would back that up!

[Hibby Bairn]

1-0 Besiktas

[Hibby Bairn]

2-0 Fiorentina. Good to see EPL showing up well again tonight.

[weonlywon6-2]

So, looks like we are pinning all the UKs hopes on Everton, so much for the multi million pound premiership😊

[Sir David Gray]

Inter Milan 1-0 Celtic

Celtic out. :na na:

[Onion]

Is that Celtic fans I hear celebrating defeat ? Media will be all over that :cb

[jodjam]

Are celtc definitely out or can they play their joker again

[Sir David Gray]

Are celtc definitely out or can they play their joker again

Well I believe they're questioning Van Dijk's red card so no doubt they'll be asking UEFA for tonight's match to be replayed.

[chinaman]

Forza la viola

[DH1875]

Feyenoord's stadium is rocking. Plenty of green smoke bombs in the air.

[Dunbar Hibee]

Everton 1 down, all English teams to get beat in Europe this week would have been some price!

[Sir David Gray]

Everton 0-1 Young Boys

Everton should be safe though as they would have to lose 4-0 tonight to go out.

[Scouse Hibee]

Just hoping Liverpool can get to penalties!

[Sir David Gray]

Penalties it is then.

'Mon the Turks.

[Scouse Hibee]

Penalties it is!

[Hibby Bairn]

England's 'elite' beaten by Monaco, Fiorentina and Besiktas.

[Sir David Gray]

ITV have pulled the plug on the Liverpool match!

[Scouse Hibee]

ITV 4 has gone off!!

[Mikey]

Penalties it is!

I wonder if ITV4 will start working again before the end of the shoot out :hilarious

[Sir David Gray]

Everton 1-1 Young Boys

Doesn't really change things too much as Young Boys still need to score another three goals to stand a chance of going through.

[Sir David Gray]

1-0 Besiktas

[Sir David Gray]

1-1

[Sir David Gray]

2-1 Besiktas

[Sir David Gray]

2-2

[Sir David Gray]

3-2 Besiktas

[Sir David Gray]

3-3

[Sir David Gray]

4-3 Besiktas

[HH81]

Some good pens so far.

[Sir David Gray]

4-4

[Sir David Gray]

5-4 Besiktas

[Sir David Gray]

Besiktas win 5-4 on penalties.

[Scouse Hibee]

That just sums up Lovren's season! Well beaten on the night so can have no complaints.

[leggeto]

What an atmosphere by the way at the Liverpool game

[Sir David Gray]

Everton 2-1 Young Boys

Everton now 6-2 up on aggregate.

[Hibby Bairn]

Ba and Berbatov not good enough for the mighty EPL :)

[Scouse Hibee]

Both were more than good enough and showed it in the EPL!

[Sir David Gray]

Steven Naismith a little fortunate to stay on the park there.

[Sir David Gray]

3-1 Everton.

7-2 on aggregate.

[Bishop Hibee]

4 Italian teams into the last 8 if the scores stay the same.

[silverhibee]

4 Italian teams into the last 8 if the scores stay the same.

Lets hope Torino get beat and it's only 3. :greengrin

[Bishop Hibee]

Actually last 16 so not so impressive. Cannae count!

[Canongatehibs]

Disgraceful scenes at Feyenoord. Roma walk off after racist behavior from the Dutch fans. Just noticed Nazi salutes from the Dutch too. Welcome to Europe 2015 !

[Aldo]

Disgraceful scenes at Feyenoord. Roma walk off after racist behavior from the Dutch fans. Just noticed Nazi salutes from the Dutch too. Welcome to Europe 2015 !

Chucking inflatable bananas towards Roma players and chanting. Woeful and disgraceful behaviour.

[oconnors_strip]

Chucking inflatable bananas towards Roma players and chanting. Woeful and disgraceful behaviour.

A bit ironic since the Dutch fans are cheering their own coloured players! Horrible to see and hear

[Aldo]

A bit ironic since the Dutch fans are cheering their own coloured players! Horrible to see and hear

Indeed N. Indeed.

[green&left]

A bit ironic since the Dutch fans are cheering their own coloured players! Horrible to see and hear

Coloured!?



Feyenoord take banana's to alot of games. Always thought it was a Chelsea -Celery type thing.

Fun n games afterwards in Rotterdam tonight, especially after the events in Rome last week.

[weonlywon6-2]

UEFA need to make a huge example of some team

[Haymaker]

Disgraceful scenes at Feyenoord. Roma walk off after racist behavior from the Dutch fans. Just noticed Nazi salutes from the Dutch too. Welcome to Europe 2015 !

Has it been resumed or called by the ref?

[Canongatehibs]

A bit ironic since the Dutch fans are cheering their own coloured players! Horrible to see and hear

and......guess what. .....a black player scores for the rancid Dutch outfit and they go wild.

UTTER, UTTER HYPOCRITS.

goal Roma. ...GIRFUY !

more trouble now. FFS

[Billy Whizz]

and......guess what. .....aa black player scores for the rancid Dutch outfit.

UTTER, UTTER HYPOCRITS.

Until Uefa starting throwing teams out the competition, this will continue

[oconnors_strip]

Coloured!?



Feyenoord take banana's to alot of games. Always thought it was a Chelsea -Celery type thing.

Fun n games afterwards in Rotterdam tonight, especially after the events in Rome last week.

Sorry, should I use the word black? Never sure on what is PC these days

[theonlywayisup]

Sorry, should I use the word black? Never sure on what is PC these days

Me too.

[Iggy Pope]

Coloured!?



Feyenoord take banana's to alot of games. Always thought it was a Chelsea -Celery type thing.

Fun n games afterwards in Rotterdam tonight, especially after the events in Rome last week.

I don't think 'coloured' is a term that people of colour take much issue with.
Why would you?

[Onion]

Maybe the ref will take the teams off tomorrow night when the "small minority" of The Ranger fans start singing their bigoted crap ?

[Haymaker]

Maybe the ref will take the teams off tomorrow night when the "small minority" of The Ranger fans start singing their bigoted crap ?

They have taken the necessary steps to prevent it so no.

[hibbytam]

I don't think 'coloured' is a term that people of colour take much issue with.
Why would you?

I think you would, if it was being used against you. What it's basically saying is 'not white', and with suggestions that it's something that's not the norm. The other, if you will.
Also it harks back to the bad old days of widespread racism.
And isn't really very descriptive anyway.



Signed,
Paid up member of the PC brigade.

[HibbyKeith]

I think you would, if it was being used against you. What it's basically saying is 'not white', and with suggestions that it's something that's not the norm. The other, if you will.
Also it harks back to the bad old days of widespread racism.
And isn't really very descriptive anyway.



Signed,
Paid up member of the PC brigade.

Taken from "Show Racism The Red Card (http://www.srtrc.org/home)" Website.. Pretty much sums up your assessment.

Is it better to describe somebody as 'black' or 'coloured'?

Describing people as coloured, is old fashioned and comes from a time when black people were treated very unfairly, it is much better to use the term black.

There are lots of rumours that cause people to feel uncomfortable about saying black, but as a descriptive term it is absolutely fine, and is a term that has been chosen by and is used by black people.

Coloured was used to describe anybody who was not white, which may imply that to be white is ‘normal’ or default. This can contribute to racist ideas and behaviour, and if we consider it, every human has a skin colour, so technically we are all coloured.

[Canongatehibs]

Coloured!?



Feyenoord take banana's to alot of games. Always thought it was a Chelsea -Celery type thing.

Fun n games afterwards in Rotterdam tonight, especially after the events in Rome last week.

Apparently they're getting ferried by trains to Amsterdam fortheir flights back to Italy.

UEFA should chuck Feyenoord out of the next euro comp. Utter ****bags of fans.

[FranckSuzy]

I'm sorry but I have to speak up for Nikki here, oconnors_strip. The disgraceful incidents on the pitch, that she was commenting on, surely greatly outweigh her use of the word "coloured"...? Maybe it's just me, but it's ironic on a thread where people are commenting on racism that some are taking more issue with one word someone has innocently used. How do you know the players were even black, incidently?

I work for one of the most PC organisations in the country and the thinking currently is the term 'person of colour' is the way forward. Go figure....

[hibbytam]

I'm sorry but I have to speak up for Nikki here, oconnors_strip. The disgraceful incidents on the pitch, that she was commenting on, surely greatly outweigh her use of the word "coloured"...? Maybe it's just me, but it's ironic on a thread where people are commenting on racism that some are taking more issue with one word someone has innocently used. How do you know the players were even black, incidently?

I work for one of the most PC organisations in the country and the thinking currently is the term 'person of colour' is the way forward. Go figure....

I was only replying to the question would anyone take offence to it, which I think someone would. However, I wasn't meaning to make anyone feel bad for using a particular word.

In my opinion too much emphasis is placed on the words used, rather than the intent behind them, and it's how educated racists get away with discrimination, because they avoid specific words.

As I said, my main issue would be that it's fairly antiquated, and rather undescriptive.

Though out of interest what is a PC organisation?

[Scott Allan Key]

I'm sorry but I have to speak up for Nikki here, oconnors_strip. The disgraceful incidents on the pitch, that she was commenting on, surely greatly outweigh her use of the word "coloured"...? Maybe it's just me, but it's ironic on a thread where people are commenting on racism that some are taking more issue with one word someone has innocently used. How do you know the players were even black, incidently?

I work for one of the most PC organisations in the country and the thinking currently is the term 'person of colour' is the way forward. Go figure....

True, but I'm pink. But not old-fashioned way of saying happy. O'Connors Strip obviously meant no offense.Maybe teams/players of Irish origin might want to walk off pitch in protest at Rangers fans bile. I would!

[Iggy Pope]

I think you would, if it was being used against you. What it's basically saying is 'not white', and with suggestions that it's something that's not the norm. The other, if you will.
Also it harks back to the bad old days of widespread racism.
And isn't really very descriptive anyway.



Signed,
Paid up member of the PC brigade.

Sorry PC chum, but that is utter drivel. And you're not doing the rest of your brigade much of a favour.
The term is not being 'used against' anyone. Certainly not in the post quoted. Not any more than describing someone as being 'tall' or 'short'.
People of colour know that their skin is not white. Or peely-wally pink. People of colour use the term to describe themselves. It's not 'darkie', it's not n****r and it's not coon. It's colour. Nature. What in the name of **** can be offensive about that?

Variety. Spice ay life (to quote Irvine W).

[FranckSuzy]

I was only replying to the question would anyone take offence to it, which I think someone would. However, I wasn't meaning to make anyone feel bad for using a particular word.

In my opinion too much emphasis is placed on the words used, rather than the intent behind them, and it's how educated racists get away with discrimination, because they avoid specific words.

As I said, my main issue would be that it's fairly antiquated, and rather undescriptive.

Though out of interest what is a PC organisation?

Apologies, it should have said 'PC' organisation. It is not my opinion of it.

Out of interest, what is "the PC brigade"?

[Haymaker]

Any links? Guardian reporting it was for objects thrown no racism/salutes etc they walked off for.

[Pete]

Out of interest, what is "the PC brigade"?

The polis.

[MWHIBBIES]

I would take Carzola and Sanchez at anfield the rest are impostersOh my...

[Ryan69]

Apparently they're getting ferried by trains to Amsterdam fortheir flights back to Italy.

UEFA should chuck Feyenoord out of the next euro comp. Utter ****bags of fans.

Feyenoord should never of been allowed in Europe....their fans are horrific!
Football in Netherlands has so many problems of the park....that is why they are not allowed to travel to a few away games in Eredivisie!

Full of bull**** too....they have had many good black players,but black players against them....rascist ****s!
Hypocrisy!

[Phil MaGlass]

Disgraceful scenes at Feyenoord. Roma walk off after racist behavior from the Dutch fans. Just noticed Nazi salutes from the Dutch too. Welcome to Europe 2015 !

Roma did not walk off the park last nite, the ref took them off for the missiles that were thrown and in his eyes a conceived racist incident, now I never saw any film footage of the banana being thrown at a player, but Feyenoord have always (since the 80,s) taken blow up bananas to the game and are always thrown about the stadium , from what I gather in the press and UEFA themselves, there is no link between the banana and racism. Feyenoord from what I have seen and witnessed do not have a problem with racism, as it says in the press, it just happened that the banana landed pitchside at that time of play.
Then again, theres always two sides.

http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=238333

[Jim44]

I was delighted to see Celtic finally knocked out of European football last night. They've been useless and their lack of progress has been everybody else's fault except their own. Last night it was the referee who must have been incompetent, biased or corrupt ( according to Delilah ) to book seven Celtic players. I never saw the game but I've got a good enough grip on reality to suspect that the Celtic play had something to do with it. We've had a few weeks of being brainwashed by Delilah and the MSM telling us how brilliant they were becoming and even a suggestion that they could go on to win the Europa Cup. I'm glad they've been proved wrong and, while they'll probably go on to domestic success, I hope they don't get it all their own way, starting with a defeat to Aberdeen at the weekend.

[JimBHibees]

I was delighted to see Celtic finally knocked out of European football last night. They've been useless and their lack of progress has been everybody else's fault except their own. Last night it was the referee who must have been incompetent, biased or corrupt ( according to Delilah ) to book seven Celtic players. I never saw the game but I've got a good enough grip on reality to suspect that the Celtic play had something to do with it. We've had a few weeks of being brainwashed by Delilah and the MSM telling us how brilliant they were becoming and even a suggestion that they could go on to win the Europa Cup. I'm glad they've been proved wrong and, while they'll probably go on to domestic success, I hope they don't get it all their own way, starting with a defeat to Aberdeen at the weekend.

Got to be said have been really impressed by Celtic in the Inter games looked very fit and full of energy and no little ability. They were on the wrong end of decisions that they would get at Parkhead in a normal league game so little sympathy. Can see them absolutely hammering some teams between now and the end of the season.

[blackpoolhibs]

Some good pens so far.

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