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SteveHFC

22-12-2014, 02:51 PM

lyonhibs

22-12-2014, 03:09 PM

Sky news are so amateurish.

The reporter asking asking an eye witness for details after she said it hit into a baby in a pram, asking the daftest questions. Do these people not get training for these kind of scenarios?

The presenter also calling Jim Murphy the First Minister.

Clowns.

It's borderline dishonest for them to call themselves a credible news channel, and this opinion is just reinforced every time I see their "coverage" of any major event.

To think the number of times I've walked along that exact stretch of pavement - scary stuff and an absolute tragedy for all involved.

DarrenSQH

22-12-2014, 03:09 PM

Terrible thing to happen. Must have been horrendous.

Minutes silence on saturday i would think.

Sir David Gray

22-12-2014, 03:09 PM

Sky news are so amateurish.

The reporter asking asking an eye witness for details after she said it hit into a baby in a pram, asking the daftest questions. Do these people not get training for these kind of scenarios?

The presenter also calling Jim Murphy the First Minister.

Clowns.

:agree: The presenter who was on air during the Sydney attack last week was interviewing an eyewitness and after he said that the nearby train station had been closed as a result of the incident, the reporter asked him if it was normal for that train station to be closed on a Monday morning. :confused:

SteveHFC

22-12-2014, 03:11 PM

James Matthews is a ****ing moron.

Just Alf

22-12-2014, 03:11 PM

It's borderline dishonest for them to call themselves a credible news channel, and this opinion is just reinforced every time I see their "coverage" of any major event.

To think the number of times I've walked along that exact stretch of pavement - scary stuff and an absolute tragedy for all involved.

Re your last paragraph, I've been thinking exactly that, what a nightmare for all involved.

hibs0666

22-12-2014, 03:27 PM

I'm shopping a few hundred yards away. What a shocker.

Sylar

22-12-2014, 03:43 PM

Second year in a row Glasgow has experienced a considerable pre-Christmas tragedy!

Horrible situation and thoughts to those families who have lost someone.

SteveHFC

22-12-2014, 03:49 PM

http://i.imgur.com/FfnKnZT.png

SteveHFC

22-12-2014, 04:00 PM

"Six people who went out to finish their Christmas shopping today will not be going home tonight"

Thanks for that lovely and completely unnecessary sentiment, Sky News.

BOB MARLEYS DUG

22-12-2014, 04:29 PM

What a tradgedy. Thoughts go out to the families that lost someone in that horrific incident.

HUTCHYHIBBY

22-12-2014, 04:34 PM

Its bad enough but, it would've been worse if it had careered into the middle of the square. Sympathies to all affected.

Glory Lurker

22-12-2014, 04:39 PM

Utterly horrified by this. My thoughts go out to everyone affected.

Hibernia&Alba

22-12-2014, 05:15 PM

A terrible day: tragic at any time and compounded by Christmas and such a busy location. Poor driver of the bin cart must have been taken ill and his foot then hit the accelerator. Imagine living with that, even if entirely blameless.

Frazerbob

22-12-2014, 05:17 PM

"Six people who went out to finish their Christmas shopping today will not be going home tonight"

Thanks for that lovely and completely unnecessary sentiment, Sky News.

Not sure I get your point to be honest. I've seen a few similar comments on Twitter and Facebook and sums up the tragedy of the situation. Very sad.

Jay

22-12-2014, 05:39 PM

Not sure I get your point to be honest. I've seen a few similar comments on Twitter and Facebook and sums up the tragedy of the situation. Very sad.

I'd imagine when your commenting on events as it happens it's difficult to keep talking without repeating yourself continuously. I agree that the comment is appropriate to the tragedy that's happened

Swedish hibee

22-12-2014, 07:55 PM

Such heartbreaking sadness. Prayers & thoughts sent to Glasgow.

Stranraer

22-12-2014, 07:56 PM

"Six people who went out to finish their Christmas shopping today will not be going home tonight"

Thanks for that lovely and completely unnecessary sentiment, Sky News.

Aye that really gets on my tits statements like that.

Very saddened and my thoughts tonight are with all affected.

weedgiehibbie

22-12-2014, 08:08 PM

My thoughts and prayers to all involved, such a sad accident & tragedy. Not sure if it has been 100% confirmed but hearing the drive suffered a hart attack at the wheel, my mum suffred one as well a few weeks ago, thamnkfully ok and no accident but kinda hits home big time. Just such a sad thing to happen at George Square

Onceinawhile

22-12-2014, 08:31 PM

Horrible accident and not something anyone deserves.

I hope that if the driver makes it he doesn't suffer for what happened.

hibsbollah

23-12-2014, 07:30 AM

Not sure I get your point to be honest. I've seen a few similar comments on Twitter and Facebook and sums up the tragedy of the situation. Very sad.

The point is that a national broadcaster should be more dignified. Leave the cod emotions alone.

Pretty Boy

23-12-2014, 07:36 AM

The point is that a national broadcaster should be more dignified. Leave the cod emotions alone.

Nothing can be as bad as the Sky News reporter. Harrassing a poor woman who was clearly in shock to 'tell us about the baby in the buggy' not once but 3 times. Complete lack of sensitivity. They then cut a live interview with a Policeman at the scene to read a tweet from Cherie Blair.

Frazerbob

23-12-2014, 08:10 AM

The point is that a national broadcaster should be more dignified. Leave the cod emotions alone.

I genuinely don't understand the problem. I must be interpreting it differently to you, SteveHFC and others.

Anyway, I don't want to detract from the sentiment of the thread.

Sir David Gray

23-12-2014, 11:40 AM

I genuinely don't understand the problem. I must be interpreting it differently to you, SteveHFC and others.

Anyway, I don't want to detract from the sentiment of the thread.

I personally don't have an issue with mentioning the reality of yesterday's events, that there are six people who went out Christmas shopping yesterday who didn't return home. That very same line is mentioned on here quite a lot when talking about football supporters who have died at a football match.

However, I do think that Sky News is, at times, poor at covering live, breaking news stories. They speculate an awful lot about things before they're confirmed and it's often about crucial things that really shouldn't be mentioned at all until they've been fully verified as being factual.

Hibernia&Alba

23-12-2014, 09:35 PM

A real family tragedy of the 18 year old girl killed with her grandparents. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Sir David Gray

23-12-2014, 09:50 PM

A real family tragedy of the 18 year old girl killed with her grandparents. Just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

:agree: It's horrendous for all those who have lost a loved one in this tragedy but for one family to have lost three family members just three days before Christmas is heartbreaking.

I don't know how you even begin to recover from something like that.

Peevemor

24-12-2014, 05:49 AM

Surely, surely, you don't really believe that someone who's just lost three family members gives a **** how near it is to Christmas Day?

Even though time's a great healer, the family's future Christmases will now be tainted by the fact that it's the time of year when their loved ones were killed.

NAE NOOKIE

24-12-2014, 06:34 AM

Surely, surely, you don't really believe that someone who's just lost three family members gives a **** how near it is to Christmas Day?

I rarely agree with Trig on anything non football related mate, but I don't think he deserved that.

Sir David Gray

24-12-2014, 08:49 AM

I rarely agree with Trig on anything non football related mate, but I don't think he deserved that.

Don't worry about it.

I think I'm actually going to stay off this part of the forum for a while. Some of the replies I get from people on here are just ridiculous.

I don't mind (and often quite enjoy) being challenged on my opinions as I realise that my thoughts on many issues that are raised on here, are at odds with the majority. But when I'm being criticised for making a completely innocent remark about such a terrible tragedy, I think it's time to have a break.

Cheers anyway. :aok:

Hibernia&Alba

24-12-2014, 09:57 AM

Surely, surely, you don't really believe that someone who's just lost three family members gives a **** how near it is to Christmas Day?

Of course not, but the family were Christmas shopping and it's the time of year when families are together celebrating. The tragedy is compounded by the joy of Christmas all around. I'm sure that's all he meant.

sleeping giant

24-12-2014, 10:09 AM

Surely, surely, you don't really believe that someone who's just lost three family members gives a **** how near it is to Christmas Day?

That's pretty poor likes.

#FromTheCapital

24-12-2014, 10:13 AM

Don't worry about it.

I think I'm actually going to stay off this part of the forum for a while. Some of the replies I get from people on here are just ridiculous.

I don't mind (and often quite enjoy) being challenged on my opinions as I realise that my thoughts on many issues that are raised on here, are at odds with the majority. But when I'm being criticised for making a completely innocent remark about such a terrible tragedy, I think it's time to have a break.

Cheers anyway. :aok:

Fwiw I find myself agreeing with your views quite often.

cabbageandribs1875

24-12-2014, 10:15 AM

Surely, surely, you don't really believe that someone who's just lost three family members gives a **** how near it is to Christmas Day?

our late father died on xmas day 7 years ago and although there's hardly a day goes by without thinking of him the lead-up to xmas is certainly more poignant

KdyHby

24-12-2014, 10:21 AM

our late father died on xmas day 7 years ago and although there's hardly a day goes by without thinking of him the lead-up to xmas is certainly more poignant

9 years since losing mine, still can't bring myself to celebrate Christmas.

hibsbollah

24-12-2014, 10:35 AM

But future Christmases would be tainted anyway, whatever time of year the tragedy had occurred, by the fact that half/quarter/most of the family no longer exists. Though I don't really think 'tainted' is the right sort of language in the context of the utter devastation that's happened in that particular family. For me, though evidently not for other posters, implying that such carnage is somehow significantly worse on the 22nd of December than it would have been on, say, the 22nd of June doesn't make any sense.

I agree. But its all semantics really, I guess its just his way of expressing himself.

Just because i disagree with a lot of what you say doesnt mean i dont wish you a Merry Christmas Trig :aok:

Moulin Yarns

24-12-2014, 10:42 AM

There was a psychologist on the radio saying how it might affect different people, and they were saying, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next week, but at some point in the future, the sight of bin lorry might be enough to traumatise people who witnessed the sad events. Because of the particular time of year this happened they think it will affect people involved particularly hard as you basically can't escape Christmas.

If it had happened at another, less memorable, time of year, the memory of events would not be triggered quite so easily. Yes the anniversary will be remembered but not in the 'high profile' way it would because it happened in Christmas week.

Sad to happen at any time of year, but worse because of the annual reminders.

Hibby D

24-12-2014, 12:15 PM

Take the point that in future years, what's left of the family may find it easy to be reminded of very painful events by the inescapability of Christmas. But I took Trig's original point to be that the remaining family's current state would be noticeably worse because we are just now currently close to Christmas, and that's what I was disagreeing with.

Bin lorries are more frequent than Christmas though, so if for some people there has to be a future psychological link between the loss of their loved ones and external stimuli, perhaps it's better that the link is to something that only occurs for about two months of the year, like Christmas, rather than every single day, like bin lorries.

I don't watch Frasier. Did the radio psycholologist you refer to mention whether it might be helpful for people involved to try to keep the tragedy and the time of year it occurred as separate as possible in their minds, to minimise future pain?

Dearie me - can't you just accept that Trig didn't mean anything by his comments instead of finding different ways to disrespect him and other posters comments?

My Mum died on a rainy day in January; 3 months after being admitted to a hospice and 5 months after my Dad. I was relieved she made it past Christmas so that our future Chrismasses weren't defined by the anniversary of her death. Dunno what that says about me :dunno:

lucky

24-12-2014, 12:41 PM

I lost my Dad 14 years ago today and whilst time is a heeler Xmas Eve is always the day my Dad died not Xmas Eve

Moulin Yarns

24-12-2014, 01:08 PM

I think Hibby D is suggesting you should maybe stop replying. I doubt anyone celebrates the death of a loved one, but rather remember them. My mum passed away a week after my birthday. That doesn't make birthdays any easier for me, but everyone is different.

Just Alf

24-12-2014, 03:19 PM

NOT your greatest hour I have to say.....

Even with people explaining their loss being more poignant due to the connection with Christmas you still come back to "diss" them :-(

I lost a member of the family on Christmas eve and guess what? Every year it is rammed back into my thoughts,

HibsMax

24-12-2014, 03:50 PM

Christmas is traditionally a time that families gather. Of course a tragedy like this hits home harder than at other times. I don't mean that the families will feel the loss more, I mean there are far more triggers at this time of year. For example, their un-opened presents under the tree; that first Christmas where you don't get a card from your Grandparents. Just little reminders that further compound the misery.

cabbageandribs1875

24-12-2014, 08:20 PM

Stranraer

25-12-2014, 08:00 PM

I've been going back to Mass for a while now and as the Priest said pray for those we want to pray for I could only think of the victims of this tragedy. It has really hurt me and luckily my friend wasn't in that part of the city but it still brought a tear to my eye. Absolutely horrific. RIP

Stranraer

25-12-2014, 08:02 PM

some pretty sick people out there

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/glasgow-bin-lorry-tragedy-sick-4869716

and another
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/york-police-probe-offensive-george-square-post-1-3643522

I hate using the word **** but in this case it's appropriate, *******s.

CropleyWasGod

25-12-2014, 08:32 PM

some pretty sick people out there

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/glasgow-bin-lorry-tragedy-sick-4869716

and another
http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/york-police-probe-offensive-george-square-post-1-3643522
Agreed about the eejits, but I'm not sure the Record should be publishing their names before they have been charged with anything. It just encourages vigilantes IMO.

AFKA5814_Hibs

25-12-2014, 10:43 PM

Agreed about the eejits, but I'm not sure the Record should be publishing their names before they have been charged with anything. It just encourages vigilantes IMO.

I disagree. These trolls have to realise that once they put there values online they are there for all to view. If there is anything for anybody to disagree with then we know where and who we can argue with.

CropleyWasGod

26-12-2014, 09:29 AM

I disagree. These trolls have to realise that once they put there values online they are there for all to view. If there is anything for anybody to disagree with then we know where and who we can argue with.
It's the Daily Record, though. Not the most reliable of media.

I'd rather the law took its course. Otherwise, we're just tempting others to break the law.

lord bunberry

26-12-2014, 10:19 AM

It's the Daily Record, though. Not the most reliable of media.

I'd rather the law took its course. Otherwise, we're just tempting others to break the law.

As vile as the comments made were, are they actually breaking the law?

CropleyWasGod

26-12-2014, 02:56 PM

As vile as the comments made were, are they actually breaking the law?
Not sure, TBH.
Breach of the peace can cover a lot of things.

Just think it's not right that someone might exact their own version of justice on the basis of what the Record says.

lord bunberry

27-12-2014, 08:39 AM

Not sure, TBH.
Breach of the peace can cover a lot of things.

Just think it's not right that someone might exact their own version of justice on the basis of what the Record says.

I think the Records story was written in a way that encourages people to exact their own version of justice.

CropleyWasGod

27-12-2014, 10:50 AM

I think the Records story was written in a way that encourages people to exact their own version of justice.
Yup.

Irresponsible of them, I reckon.

silverhibee

27-12-2014, 11:19 PM

Yup.

Irresponsible of them, I reckon.

Nothing new from them.

You would think they would learn there lesson.

Colr

31-12-2014, 09:01 PM

Just watched the opening scenes of World War Z and it makes one uneasy in the circumstances.

Onceinawhile

31-12-2014, 10:42 PM

As vile as the comments made were, are they actually breaking the law?

If it's the joke the lad from Sunderland made, sure it's in bad taste and sure it's a little bit too soon.... but, it's clearly a joke.

It's not discriminatory, it shouldn't be off limits even if taste dictates, and as bad a person as it makes me... I chortled.

Hibs90

06-01-2015, 12:44 PM

https://dailyeuropa.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/glasgow-bin-lorry-cover-up-update/

johnbc70

06-01-2015, 12:59 PM

https://dailyeuropa.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/glasgow-bin-lorry-cover-up-update/

I would assume the perceived lack of detail will be to protect the driver who will have to live with this for the rest of his life. What would there to be gained from a cover up?

Mr Grieves

06-01-2015, 03:43 PM

https://dailyeuropa.wordpress.com/2015/01/04/glasgow-bin-lorry-cover-up-update/
What a load of *****.

DaveF

06-01-2015, 05:33 PM

CropleyWasGod

06-01-2015, 06:05 PM

The article is pure speculation and probable nonsense but it is very odd that nothing has been forthcoming from the Police after all this time. Or have I missed briefings and press conference updates?
Think the police are trying to be as sensitive as possible, particularly since its still so recent. It's a difficult task, being sympathetic to the families and to the driver.

However, that just gives the conspiracy nutters free rein.

Edit. .....
Police report due at the end of the month.