Toon V Mackems

[H18Y GW]

Going with my laddie ,anyone else heading down on the train on Sunday ?

[Bishop Hibee]

Sadly can't even watch on tv as I'm at a family get-together. I've been to one at the SoL a while back. Great atmosphere although tinged with too much hate before and after the game. Fans not allowed near each other. While our derby lasts 90 mins, theirs is long before and after.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Sounds like The Hammers v Millwall, could be a while until that league fixture returns! :-)

[hibs4thecup1988]

Sadly can't even watch on tv as I'm at a family get-together. I've been to one at the SoL a while back. Great atmosphere although tinged with too much hate before and after the game. Fans not allowed near each other. While our derby lasts 90 mins, theirs is long before and after.

Interesting point about them not allowed near each other. Sunderland fans this year will not be walked to the ground. My toon mate isn't going. He is thinking it's going to be carnage.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Going with my laddie ,anyone else heading down on the train on Sunday ?
Who are you supporting? I was at the stadium of light for Sunderland v Chelsea and must admit i will be cheering on the Mackems this w/e but unfortunately i wont be going!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I read that the police were taking a step back for this fixture, my first thought was "wtf"!

[Billy Whizz]

Who are you supporting? I was at the stadium of light for Sunderland v Chelsea and must admit i will be cheering on the Mackems this w/e but unfortunately i wont be going!

Why so much hatred? Most of the guys probably work beside each other all week!

[kaimendhibs]

Why so much hatred? Most of the guys probably work beside each other all week!

Like Hibs and hearts?


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[Haymaker]

I ****ing hate the mackem *******s.

No reason why really although I lived with 4 geordies for a fair few months...

[frazeHFC]

I read that the police were taking a step back for this fixture, my first thought was "wtf"!


That will be absolutely mental, can't believe they are doing that!

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Why so much hatred? Most of the guys probably work beside each other all week!
Goes back historically to the English civil war where the Sunderland area sided with roving Scottish armys invading the north of England (Newcastle).

More recently is probably due to the shipbuilding where the people of Sunderland made the ship hulls (mackems) and the Geordies took them away for fitting (tackems). Sunderland is also quite poor in comparison to Newcastle and my feeling is that the Geordies have an air of superiority over their rivals.

The mackems were/are sound tbh and very much like our own support imho.

[Bishop Hibee]

Why so much hatred? Most of the guys probably work beside each other all week!

A lot do but the closer you get to Newcastle and Sunderland respectively it becomes almost 100% red and white or black and white. Newcastle fans had to meet at SJP and were bused down to Sunderland for the derby I was at. No independent travel allowed. Contrast this with Hibs and Hearts fans getting public transport together to and from games with little bother although I have seen a few 'incidents' in my time :take that

[StevieC]

I'm on the 10.30 train down.

You can travel independently, I did at the last game, but the buses are free from St James' and usually get you back to the Toon much quicker. The Metro is more fun though :wink:

I was also shocked at the police statement for this game .. its a big ask for fans to police themselves given the hatred.

And the towns are 20 miles apart, so you don't really get the "working beside each other" situation with the majority of fans.

[Cabbage Lad]

Could be interesting. Myself and 3 colleagues are taking 40 primary school children. Genuinely hope there is no trouble. The kids can't wait.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Goes back historically to the English civil war where the Sunderland area sided with roving Scottish armys invading the north of England (Newcastle).

More recently is probably due to the shipbuilding where the people of Sunderland made the ship hulls (mackems) and the Geordies took them away for fitting (tackems). Sunderland is also quite poor in comparison to Newcastle and my feeling is that the Geordies have an air of superiority over their rivals.

The mackems were/are sound tbh and very much like our own support imho.


well in that case, mon the wearsiders :agree: that and along with memories of a friendly hibs played down in newcastle in the mid 70's and seeing first hand the geordie animals, mon the Mackems :thumbsup:

[StevieC]

Could be interesting. Myself and 3 colleagues are taking 40 primary school children. Genuinely hope there is no trouble.

So long as they stay off the bevy ...

Seriously though, its a fixture that will throw up trouble .. that's almost guaranteed. Might be in a pub in the centre or a metro station between Pelaw and Central Station but it'll be somewhere, such is the passion for this game.

Around the stadium has previously had a high police presence, with helicopters keeping an eye on things, but there's serious questions about the police stating a "hands off" approach for Sunday.

The kids will be fine if you keep to the club store at the back of the Gallowgate, and take the route round the back of the East Stand if the tickets are for the Leazes (Sir John Hall) stand.
The makems get escorted up from the train station and round the back of the Milburn stand, and its this area that often has flash points (and where a lot of the trouble was two games ago).

Get in early as well, if possible.

[KingFranck]

Won't be at the game but will be watching on Sky with my wee lad c'mon the Geordies :thumbsup: Wee lad is a lucky omen he's been at two games with me v Spurs and Euro League and we won both and was at the Chelsea game with the school so undefeated !

[heretoday]

It's extraordinary that neither of these huge clubs has won anything in four decades or whatever. Even the League Cup.

Mind you what about the Sheffield clubs too? Nowt. Massive supports.

[Cabbage Lad]

Thanks mate.

We will be in the club store by 12 and get escorted to our seats at 12:45pm.

Should be fine.

[HibbyAndy]

Good luck Sunderland

[Lago]

Reading through the various posts, one on going theme struReadingsthe number of people who travel down South to watch a match. School children from Scotland being taken in a group outing to an English football match, would they be taken to a Scottish game?
The point I suppose I am trying to make is, that it is all symptomatic of the decline of Scottish football.
Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent.

[CB_NO3]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/it-went-nuts-newcastle-sunderland-4849055

Minor scuffles according to the mirror.

[Scottie]

What a pleasing result for the Mackems :greengrin

Could'ny happen to a nicer man than that fud Pardew and the Geordie nation. GIRUY :thumbsup:

[Hibrandenburg]

I spent 2 years as communications expert in a regiment that recruits almost solely from the Sunderland area and can't stress enough that nowhere on this earth will you meet a better class of ***** trumpet than those lads from the Sunderland area.

[CB_NO3]

I spent 2 years as communications expert in a regiment that recruits almost solely from the Sunderland area and can't stress enough that nowhere on this earth will you meet a better class of ***** trumpet than those lads from the Sunderland area.
Am sure there are doctors and lawyers and other forms of decent folk from Sunderland that would challenge that statement. Maybe the fact that these guys applied to be in the army or whatever shows more about their IQ?

[Hibrandenburg]

Am sure there are doctors and lawyers and other forms of decent folk from Sunderland that would challenge that statement. Maybe the fact that these guys applied to be in the army or whatever shows more about their IQ?

Meeow!

[Septimus]

I spent 2 years as communications expert in a regiment that recruits almost solely from the Sunderland area and can't stress enough that nowhere on this earth will you meet a better class of ***** trumpet than those lads from the Sunderland area.

I spent 38 years in the merchant navy frequently sailing with Sunderland supporters. As a general rule I would say that they were no more trumpets than average.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Reading through the various posts, one on going theme struReadingsthe number of people who travel down South to watch a match. School children from Scotland being taken in a group outing to an English football match, would they be taken to a Scottish game?
The point I suppose I am trying to make is, that it is all symptomatic of the decline of Scottish football.
Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent.

Could be wrong, but I'm sure a few years back NUFC had adverts for games in the EEN .... My attitude then was they can GTF and it hasn't changed. :grr:

[southsider]

well in that case, mon the wearsiders :agree: that and along with memories of a friendly hibs played down in newcastle in the mid 70's and seeing first hand the geordie animals, mon the Mackems :thumbsup:

I was there, lots of trouble but little in the papers as Huns had a full scale riot at Villa on the same day.

[Lago]

Could be wrong, but I'm sure a few years back NUFC had adverts for games in the EEN .... My attitude then was they can GTF and it hasn't changed. :grr:
Your right, but a lot of folk are being seduced by the constant advertising of the game down south telling us how good it is.