Scotsman (Not) Shock

[Dan Sarf]

The Scotsman, Scotland on Sunday and the Edinburgh Evening News are to merge operations with the loss of up to 45 jobs.

Oh for the heady days of the Pink and the Green...

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/29/scotsman-titles-merge-job-losses

[Spike Mandela]

BAnderson to be kept on as the cheap option between sports memo copier and a proper sports journalist no doubt.

Sad to hear any people losing their jobs though.

[Keith_M]

Sadly not a surprise. Printed Media is on the way out and The Scotsman is scottish in name only, so little to differentiate it from rivals.

[SmashinGlass]

Sadly not a surprise. Printed Media is on the way out and The Scotsman is scottish in name only, so little to differentiate it from rivals.

There is very little to differentiate any form of media from their rivals in this country nowadays. The political narrative is set and the media lap it up without question. It's a sad state of affairs.

[Hibernia&Alba]

There is very little to differentiate any form of media from their rivals in this country nowadays. The political narrative is set and the media lap it up without question. It's a sad state of affairs.


Free market, anti-EU, anti-immigration, anti-welfare state. It's a mean-spirited, malevolent consensus driven by the right wing press. Sadly, too many people seem to fall for the divide and rule tactic.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Whilst it's sad to see people lose their jobs, all three titles are pretty dire in opinion.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Free market, anti-EU, anti-immigration, anti-welfare state. It's a mean-spirited, malevolent consensus driven by the right wing press. Sadly, too many people seem to fall for the divide and rule tactic.

This

[cam2644]

The Scotsman lost a lot of credibility because of its referendum coverage. I think its days are numbered.

[wookie70]

The Sunday Herald sales rose 64% in the run up to the Referendum. It will be interesting to see figures in the coming months to see what happens to circulations now the referendum is over. It has been a long time since I bought a paper but I always read the guardian online. I tend to like the comments sections more than the articles and this is something newsprint can't offer.

It is amazing to think that not long back you would wait in newsagent for a Pink or the Late edition of the EEN. They are now officially not even good enough for Fish and Chips.

[Ozyhibby]

The Scotsman lost a lot of credibility because of its referendum coverage. I think its days are numbered.

I haven't bought it since. Switched to the Herald.
Enjoy the Evening News though.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Identity crisis. Lost its way and readership when it started to go tabloid and appeal to the "masses" Little to differentiate it from any other rag that panders to the cult (and they are total cults) of celebrity - others have and do do it better if that's yer thang.
My current bug bear is the popups which despite attempts to close - they ads keep popping up on the iPhone.
Sad to see its demise in a way but you reap what you sow. On 9/11 it was the first website I headed to for confirmation - now the user experience is a huge turnoff. End is night it would seem they've (part of their operations) moved into the same building as me - I've yet to spot BAnderson tho - may
be he shirks from home ;)

[Colr]

The Scotsman, Scotland on Sunday and the Edinburgh Evening News are to merge operations with the loss of up to 45 jobs.

Oh for the heady days of the Pink and the Green...

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/oct/29/scotsman-titles-merge-job-losses

I remember the pink but what was the green?

[Colr]

There is very little to differentiate any form of media from their rivals in this country nowadays. The political narrative is set and the media lap it up without question. It's a sad state of affairs.

Most newspapers have dispensed with proper journalism and just regurgitate stories from the internet. Including from site like this.

[Tyler Durden]

Free market, anti-EU, anti-immigration, anti-welfare state. It's a mean-spirited, malevolent consensus driven by the right wing press. Sadly, too many people seem to fall for the divide and rule tactic.

I don't believe the Scotsman to be "anti" any of those things.

Also find it predictable that people claim it lost credibility because they disagree with the papers view on independence. Nonsense.

[Phil D. Rolls]

I remember the pink but what was the green?

The green was the Evening Dispatches sports paper - a rival to the pink.

[marinello59]

I don't believe the Scotsman to be "anti" any of those things.

Also find it predictable that people claim it lost credibility because they disagree with the papers view on independence. Nonsense.

No, you have that wrong. Any opinion pieces in favour of voting No were outrageous scare tactics.
Any opinion pieces suggesting we vote Yes were interesting.
The Scotsman has obviously fallen from grace because it ceased to be interesting enough. :greengrin

[ACLeith]

I don't believe the Scotsman to be "anti" any of those things.

Also find it predictable that people claim it lost credibility because they disagree with the papers view on independence. Nonsense.

The paper used to support the old Liberal party views on PR and a federal Britain and was generally perceived to be slightly left of centre. Things changed and they moved quickly to the right, the differences between it and the right-wing tabloids got very blurred. It lost credibility with me and I stopped buying it.

Their stance on the referendum reflected the sea-change in their political views and was entirely predictable. My dislike of it has got nothing to do with the referendum.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I don't believe the Scotsman to be "anti" any of those things.

Also find it predictable that people claim it lost credibility because they disagree with the papers view on independence. Nonsense.


I was meaning the political narrative generally and the way debates are framed, particularly in the right wing press who dominate the newspaper market.

[Tyler Durden]

The suggestion in the post you quoted was broadly that all papers are as bad as each other.

Difficult to disagree with your point if aimed at the tabloids with highest circulations though

[Jack]

I don't believe the Scotsman to be "anti" any of those things.

Also find it predictable that people claim it lost credibility because they disagree with the papers view on independence. Nonsense.

TBH I thought it lost credibility long before the referendum although I suspect it may have been the straw that broke the camels back for many of its dwindling circulation.