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Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 06:02 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

SmashinGlass
28-10-2014, 06:04 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

Absolutely. My one hope is that they actually follow through and pay this time.......

Cameron1875
28-10-2014, 06:04 PM
Hahaha you cannot make this up.

Be a cold day in hell before I give Hearts praise for anything financially.

Mark79
28-10-2014, 06:05 PM
No objections to folk getting paid a decent wage but hearts trying to look like the decent community club here. Big pat on the back for paying someone a quid more than min wage but robbing all the companies earlier in the year of much needed income to pay their far smaller workforces.

Joke of a club.

Eyrie
28-10-2014, 06:07 PM
Might sound good, but how many Hearts employees will benefit from this? Will they insist that subcontracted staff are also given the living wage?

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 06:08 PM
Absolutely correct regarding their past conduct, but this is a positive move by them. Good news for low paid staff.

blackpoolhibs
28-10-2014, 06:09 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

sleeping giant
28-10-2014, 06:09 PM
:faf:
You couldn't make it up.

DaveF
28-10-2014, 06:10 PM
When they apologise, acknowledge and accept their previous financial collapse and begin to pay back the host of creditors they bumped then I might think about dishing out a tiny modicum of praise.

Until then, that lot can **** off.

greenpaper55
28-10-2014, 06:11 PM
Maybe they should start to pay back what they owe to the taxpayer, how many employees will benefit from this-knowing them it will be one.

HIBERNIAN-0762
28-10-2014, 06:12 PM
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff...

HibbiesandtheBaddies
28-10-2014, 06:14 PM
From paying no wages to a trumpeting press call for paying a living wage.

Absolute shower :faf:

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 06:15 PM
When they apologise, acknowledge and accept their previous financial collapse and begin to pay back the host of creditors they bumped then I might think about dishing out a tiny modicum of praise.

Until then, that lot can **** off.

Hundred per cent agree, but none of that is the fault of the staff who will benefit from the pay rise.

Pete
28-10-2014, 06:16 PM
:faf:

matty_f
28-10-2014, 06:16 PM
Mind they said they were paying folk a lot more than that, then bumped them all on payday.

eastterrace
28-10-2014, 06:27 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

yes when seen what she said i had to read it twice " keeping with the values we hold dear as a club " thats the biggest load o pish ive heard in a while.

Gus Fring
28-10-2014, 06:27 PM
Much easier to pay this type of wage when it's being subsidised by the fans and when it was less than 6 months ago that they ditched all of their debt and sacked a big whack of their employees.

Shes been very sneaky here by challenging other clubs to do the same. She know for most it isn't going to be possible as their costs are higher and their income is lower because they run their club in an honest fashion. This means either the clubs will have to hurt themselves financially or take the hit on bad PR.

I Expect the Hearts sympathetic media to make a big deal about this over the next few days.

Stevie Reid
28-10-2014, 06:29 PM
Nearly choked on my tea when I heard that fat **** Ian Murray on STV News talking (with a completely straight face) about how this is "entirely in keeping with the principles that the club and the supporters hold dearly."

This act in itself may be commendable, but they are an utterly odious institution with regards to their financial conduct in the past, and the way their shafting of creditors is continually glossed over. Their self aggrandising on this matter is disgusting.

3pm
28-10-2014, 06:31 PM
Well done Hearts. That'll be ****in right!

Cheats yesterday, cheats today and cheats tomorrow.

Filth.

rcarter1
28-10-2014, 06:33 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

No offence to Hibernia&Alba, what follows is aimed purely at HMFC.

:blah:

Stage 1 of, Hearts are the greatest community club ever, in fact they invented community, and are paragons of virtue, honorability, and fair play.

:jamboak:

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 06:35 PM
Much easier to pay this type of wage when it's being subsidised by the fans and when it was less than 6 months ago that they ditched all of their debt and sacked a big whack of their employees.

Shes been very sneaky here by challenging other clubs to do the same. She know for most it isn't going to be possible as their costs are higher and their income is lower because they run their club in an honest fashion. This means either the clubs will have to hurt themselves financially or take the hit on bad PR.

I Expect the Hearts sympathetic media to make a big deal about this over the next few days.

Souvenir issue of the EEN I reckon, but, that aside, it's a good policy, and one that Hibs should be part of.

FranckSuzy
28-10-2014, 06:35 PM
What about the back office staff who were paid off when they went into admin.? Will they receive back pay, I wonder :hmmm:

emerald green
28-10-2014, 06:37 PM
When they apologise, acknowledge and accept their previous financial collapse and begin to pay back the host of creditors they bumped then I might think about dishing out a tiny modicum of praise.

Until then, that lot can **** off.

Absolutely nailed it. :top marks

Geo_1875
28-10-2014, 06:43 PM
Hopefully the EEN headlines with the staff numbers post the "pay rise". Budge has a history of cost cutting. This "good thing" will cost her and HoMFC nothing.

Jack Hackett
28-10-2014, 06:48 PM
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Errington Associates £100
Egidijus Valiauga £860
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FountainCourtApartments £100
Football Safety Officers Ass. £200
GF Capital Solutions £307
John Gibson £2,520
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GraemeRankin Sports Management Ltd £12,000
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HMRevenue&Customs £1,881,065
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HBJGateley Wareing £100
Heriot Watt Sports Village Ltd £145,663
HighlanderKilt Hire Ltd £430
Hitachi Capital (MI Finance) £7
Holiday Inn AberdeenWest £55
HomespringLtd £499
Sven Houston £40
Heart ofMidlothianShareholderAssoc. £5,000
ImpactSigns £6,469
InterluxLtd £254
InterfaceEnvironment £100
JamesArmstrong&CoLtd £1,500
JohnstonCarmichael £100
Jane Lofthouse Johnston £410
JamesSandison £650
JThomson Colour Printers £100
Kauno Futbolo £13,431
KeySportsManagement Ltd £23,049
Korelita £52,610
KPMGTanacsadoKft. £1,190
LadyHaig’s PoppyFactory £185
Lietuvos Rytas £37
LivingstonFootball Club £282
Liverpool Football Club £46,625
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LexAutoleaseLtd £1,159
LochgreenHouse Hotel £510
Lyco Direct Limited £1,822
Milson Capital Corp £1,223,989
Ian Maclennan £335
McCrae’s BattalionTrust £100
Dr Carrie McCrea £760
Tony McGill £19,625
Dr ScottMcKie £700
McRaeofGorgie £560
Meriden Hospital £790
Dr AndrewMurray £250
Musselburgh AthleticFC £5,790
Michael Page International £100
NHSLothian £75.70
NHSFife £739
NorthLanarkshireCouncil £100
NorthgateVehicle Hire Ltd £1,661
Norwood Hall Hotel £100
NuffieldHealth £4,645
OGLawFirmLtd £5,000
Orange £5,896
PHSGroup plc £1,100
Pulsant (Scotland) Ltd £240
Paton Plant Limited £3,290
Pendrich Height Services Ltd £6,552
PerformingRight SocietyLtd £13,995
Pitch Inrernational LLP £4,746
PPL Sport&LeisureLtd £1,325
PPL £4,133
Premier Sports Management £4,836
ProKit UK Ltd £100
ProAmicaLtd £34,899
ProfessorErnestSchilders £2,410
RapideCommunications Ltd £176
Respublikos Investicija £62
RunosVertimai £43
RWNOrthopaedics Ltd £100
RydenLettings £100
RigbyTaylorLtd £1,564
Robert GraemeWilson £150
Spie MatthewHall Ltd £2,436
SpireHealthcare/BUPA £3,118
Scottish Water £100
Steve Hutchison £3,430
Scottish PoliceAuthority £18,585
Savills £20,602
ScottishAmbulanceService £2,464
Scomac CateringEquipment Ltd £100
Scottish Power (Stadium) £9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office) £5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block) £1,254
Scottish GasBusiness £247
Scrubbers Laundry £162
SDMS £411
Securavent SecuritySer £12,309
Scottish Football Association £5,611
ShanksWaste Management Ltd £1,211
Scottish HydroElectric £139
JordanShearer £90
Shred-it (East of Scotland) £457
SkyBusiness £100
Slaters £100
SNS Group £1,281
Spectator Seating £13,005
SpeedyPowerLtd £100
Sportsmasters UK Ltd £1,848
Sporting ID £100
Sports MedicineUmeaAB £2,700
SRMHearts Ltd £19,853
Scottish Power £100
St AndrewsFirst Aid £364
Stenhousemuir FC £12,000
Stellar Football Ltd £5,750
Streamline PrintMgmt £418
Superturas (Kaunas) £26,636
Scottish YouthFootball Association £1,750
TG Baker (Sound) Ltd £2,856
ThyssenKrupp Elevator UK Ltd £3,378
TheEdinburgh Clinic £557
TheNewspaper LicensingAgency £1,428
Talk Talk £5,548
TheRangers Football Club £1,410
Ticketmaster SystemsLtd £33,112
TNT UK Ltd £8
TNTPostScotlandLtd £56
Trichem(Scotland) Ltd £1,380
TechnologyServicesgroup £1,967
Turnstile Systems2000 Ltd £810
UABLitcargus £1,166
UK Football Academy £228
Unum £2,300
UABUkio Bankas InvesticineGrupe £8,157,497
VeecomSystems £3,525
ViolaFCLtd £290
Vodafone Connect Ltd £343
Wallace Brown/Langstane £956
WalkerWoodstockEdinburgh £1,874
Weatherseal £41
WesternSaab £352
Dr David Whitaker £500
ScottWilson £1,000
YorkshireClinic £2,562

....'nuff said

Gus Fring
28-10-2014, 06:51 PM
Hopefully the EEN headlines with the staff numbers post the "pay rise". Budge has a history of cost cutting. This "good thing" will cost her and HoMFC nothing.

i wonder if the Evening News will mention that they don't pay the living wage either.

Feed McGraw
28-10-2014, 06:51 PM
When they apologise, acknowledge and accept their previous financial collapse and begin to pay back the host of creditors they bumped then I might think about dishing out a tiny modicum of praise.

Until then, that lot can **** off.They won`t do what you`ve suggested in your first paragraph so they can just **** off. In fact, even if they did, they can still **** off !!

rcarter1
28-10-2014, 06:52 PM
442SportsMarketingLtd £5,153
A1 Minibus&Coach £100
ADTFireand Securityplc £1,033
AyrUnited FC £1,750
ArnoldClark FinanceLtd £5,764
AlanDick £50
Alasdair Fraser £528
ArdoeHouse Hotel £180
Allstar Business Solutions £100
AlexanderSzatamari £9,100
AB Ukio Bankas £15,488,290
Baltic Clipper £497
Bank of Scotland (merchant services) £100
Bank of Scotland (equipment finance) £970
BeswickSportsLtd £3,000
BOC Gases £490
BritishRed Cross £76
BritishTelecommunications £3,024
BT Global Services £67
BritishGas Business £589
BigHearts CommunityTust £34,048
BruceRae Property Management £442
Business Line JAB(Vilnius) £204,143
Cable&WirelessCommunication £2,198
Mr JamesCalder £1,411
CameronPresentations Ltd £5,406
CampbellMedical Supplies £100
JanetteCampbell £100
CardiacServices £152
Charlie Irons CoachesLtd £100
Chamic £100
Childcare Vouchers Ltd £100
Il Ciocco (Italy) £11,468
CitreonUKLtd £5,232
Clearwater TechnologyLtd £5,156
Clouds £6,870
CoerverCoaching Scotland £948
ConceptGroup Ltd £841
Copymade Ltd £100
Corona Energy Retail 2 Ltd £29,720
The InsolvencyService £0
DJ Alexander £6,323
David Cameron (Edinburgh) £110
Amal Daher £120
Datatserve UK £160
DC Lighting Services £651
DJBFire&SafetyTraining £48
DuffieldHarrison LLP £1,816
Daisy Communications £1,474
Ensco 165 Ltd £509,464
Eamonn Collins £5,000
EdinburghChamber of Commerce £674
EdinburghCouncil (Chesser House) £90,715
EdinburghCouncil (For Flats) £2,631
EliteMedicale £229
Errington Associates £100
Egidijus Valiauga £860
Fife ImagingAssociates £900
FountainCourtApartments £100
Football Safety Officers Ass. £200
GF Capital Solutions £307
John Gibson £2,520
GlenhamProperty £100
GraemeRankin Sports Management Ltd £12,000
GreenStarMedia Ltd £77
Greentech (Sportsturf) Ltd £1,056
G4SSecureSolutions (UK) Ltd £12,087
GroupCall Limited £210
HMRevenue&Customs-VAT £0
HMRevenue&Customs £1,881,065
Hamilton&Brydie £144
Hectic Life £62
HBJGateley Wareing £100
Heriot Watt Sports Village Ltd £145,663
HighlanderKilt Hire Ltd £430
Hitachi Capital (MI Finance) £7
Holiday Inn AberdeenWest £55
HomespringLtd £499
Sven Houston £40
Heart ofMidlothianShareholderAssoc. £5,000
ImpactSigns £6,469
InterluxLtd £254
InterfaceEnvironment £100
JamesArmstrong&CoLtd £1,500
JohnstonCarmichael £100
Jane Lofthouse Johnston £410
JamesSandison £650
JThomson Colour Printers £100
Kauno Futbolo £13,431
KeySportsManagement Ltd £23,049
Korelita £52,610
KPMGTanacsadoKft. £1,190
LadyHaig’s PoppyFactory £185
Lietuvos Rytas £37
LivingstonFootball Club £282
Liverpool Football Club £46,625
LloydsTSB (Equiniti) £17,165
LexAutoleaseLtd £1,159
LochgreenHouse Hotel £510
Lyco Direct Limited £1,822
Milson Capital Corp £1,223,989
Ian Maclennan £335
McCrae’s BattalionTrust £100
Dr Carrie McCrea £760
Tony McGill £19,625
Dr ScottMcKie £700
McRaeofGorgie £560
Meriden Hospital £790
Dr AndrewMurray £250
Musselburgh AthleticFC £5,790
Michael Page International £100
NHSLothian £75.70
NHSFife £739
NorthLanarkshireCouncil £100
NorthgateVehicle Hire Ltd £1,661
Norwood Hall Hotel £100
NuffieldHealth £4,645
OGLawFirmLtd £5,000
Orange £5,896
PHSGroup plc £1,100
Pulsant (Scotland) Ltd £240
Paton Plant Limited £3,290
Pendrich Height Services Ltd £6,552
PerformingRight SocietyLtd £13,995
Pitch Inrernational LLP £4,746
PPL Sport&LeisureLtd £1,325
PPL £4,133
Premier Sports Management £4,836
ProKit UK Ltd £100
ProAmicaLtd £34,899
ProfessorErnestSchilders £2,410
RapideCommunications Ltd £176
Respublikos Investicija £62
RunosVertimai £43
RWNOrthopaedics Ltd £100
RydenLettings £100
RigbyTaylorLtd £1,564
Robert GraemeWilson £150
Spie MatthewHall Ltd £2,436
SpireHealthcare/BUPA £3,118
Scottish Water £100
Steve Hutchison £3,430
Scottish PoliceAuthority £18,585
Savills £20,602
ScottishAmbulanceService £2,464
Scomac CateringEquipment Ltd £100
Scottish Power (Stadium) £9,544
Scottish Power (Ticket Office) £5,467
Scottish Power (Admin Block) £1,254
Scottish GasBusiness £247
Scrubbers Laundry £162
SDMS £411
Securavent SecuritySer £12,309
Scottish Football Association £5,611
ShanksWaste Management Ltd £1,211
Scottish HydroElectric £139
JordanShearer £90
Shred-it (East of Scotland) £457
SkyBusiness £100
Slaters £100
SNS Group £1,281
Spectator Seating £13,005
SpeedyPowerLtd £100
Sportsmasters UK Ltd £1,848
Sporting ID £100
Sports MedicineUmeaAB £2,700
SRMHearts Ltd £19,853
Scottish Power £100
St AndrewsFirst Aid £364
Stenhousemuir FC £12,000
Stellar Football Ltd £5,750
Streamline PrintMgmt £418
Superturas (Kaunas) £26,636
Scottish YouthFootball Association £1,750
TG Baker (Sound) Ltd £2,856
ThyssenKrupp Elevator UK Ltd £3,378
TheEdinburgh Clinic £557
TheNewspaper LicensingAgency £1,428
Talk Talk £5,548
TheRangers Football Club £1,410
Ticketmaster SystemsLtd £33,112
TNT UK Ltd £8
TNTPostScotlandLtd £56
Trichem(Scotland) Ltd £1,380
TechnologyServicesgroup £1,967
Turnstile Systems2000 Ltd £810
UABLitcargus £1,166
UK Football Academy £228
Unum £2,300
UABUkio Bankas InvesticineGrupe £8,157,497
VeecomSystems £3,525
ViolaFCLtd £290
Vodafone Connect Ltd £343
Wallace Brown/Langstane £956
WalkerWoodstockEdinburgh £1,874
Weatherseal £41
WesternSaab £352
Dr David Whitaker £500
ScottWilson £1,000
YorkshireClinic £2,562

....'nuff said

:agree:

Spike Mandela
28-10-2014, 06:53 PM
How much p in the pound did they give their creditors? How long will it take the increase in salary to equal their unpaid tax? How much did they save by not paying their training centre rent for months and months blah, blah, blah etc etc . Never let these self righteous roasters forget.

Forget Hearts and their self congratulatory praise, every football club, indeed every workplace should adopt these measures.

greengnome
28-10-2014, 06:55 PM
Absolutely nailed it. :top marks

Seconded!!!! :top marks Shower of $*£"e...

Mikey
28-10-2014, 06:57 PM
Not a pretty list, but these ones really do say it all........




BritishRed Cross £76
BigHearts CommunityTust £34,048
Heart ofMidlothianShareholderAssoc. £5,000
LadyHaig’s PoppyFactory £185
ScottishAmbulanceService £2,464
St AndrewsFirst Aid £364

Borderhibbie76
28-10-2014, 06:59 PM
Dearie me is there no end to these phannies and their shameless behaviour....they bumped a host of creditors and now want credit for paying wages...FFS

weonlywon6-2
28-10-2014, 07:04 PM
Hahaha you cannot make this up.

Be a cold day in hell before I give Hearts praise for anything financially.

Yeah me too,whats the reasoning behind this,trying tp cover their tracks by any chance?

harry-hibee
28-10-2014, 07:10 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

Aye but they will be on zero hours contracts

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 07:21 PM
Aye but they will be on zero hours contracts

Is that right? It defeats the whole object of help for the low paid. Surely the term 'living wage' requires having enough working hours to live on! Zero hour contracts should be illegal in all but the most exceptional circumstances IMO.

Pedantic_Hibee
28-10-2014, 07:23 PM
Not a pretty list, but these ones really do say it all........

Absolutely disgusting.

Bostonhibby
28-10-2014, 07:23 PM
But whose money are they paying it with?

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 07:25 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

Values?! Hearts?! god almighty you really couldn't make it up :faf:


They are the grubbiest, immoral football club in Britain!

Charity Robbing
Poppy Stealing
Peado Employing
Tax dodging
Coning and thieving from small buisinesses


Thats just to name a few, the list could go on forever! Values?! My ****ing arse!

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 07:28 PM
Not a pretty list, but these ones really do say it all........

Filth, shameless filth.

Leith Mo
28-10-2014, 07:32 PM
Not a pretty list, but these ones really do say it all........

Plus the McCraes Batallion Trust. Don't forget that one - they certainly won't let you

greenginger
28-10-2014, 07:35 PM
You'll notice on the Yam list of shame two payments due to our Council totaling £ 93,346.

Yesterday budget cuts were announced for Edinburgh leisure.

The Yams fraud will cost a few guys their jobs, but instead of a Yam apology , its look at us , we are a lovely family club !

Makes me boak ! :greengrin

Billy Whizz
28-10-2014, 07:36 PM
Not a pretty list, but these ones really do say it all........

What was the total on the list?

JAY-ESS GREEN
28-10-2014, 07:36 PM
442SportsMarketingLtd £5,153
A1 Minibus&Coach £100
ADTFireand Securityplc £1,033
AyrUnited FC £1,750
ArnoldClark FinanceLtd £5,764
AlanDick £50
Alasdair Fraser £528
ArdoeHouse Hotel £180
Allstar Business Solutions £100
AlexanderSzatamari £9,100
AB Ukio Bankas £15,488,290
Baltic Clipper £497
Bank of Scotland (merchant services) £100
Bank of Scotland (equipment finance) £970
BeswickSportsLtd £3,000
BOC Gases £490
BritishRed Cross £76
BritishTelecommunications £3,024
BT Global Services £67
BritishGas Business £589
BigHearts CommunityTust £34,048
BruceRae Property Management £442
Business Line JAB(Vilnius) £204,143
Cable&WirelessCommunication £2,198
Mr JamesCalder £1,411
CameronPresentations Ltd £5,406
CampbellMedical Supplies £100
JanetteCampbell £100
CardiacServices £152
Charlie Irons CoachesLtd £100
Chamic £100
Childcare Vouchers Ltd £100
Il Ciocco (Italy) £11,468
CitreonUKLtd £5,232
Clearwater TechnologyLtd £5,156
Clouds £6,870
CoerverCoaching Scotland £948
ConceptGroup Ltd £841
Copymade Ltd £100
Corona Energy Retail 2 Ltd £29,720
The InsolvencyService £0
DJ Alexander £6,323
David Cameron (Edinburgh) £110
Amal Daher £120
Datatserve UK £160
DC Lighting Services £651
DJBFire&SafetyTraining £48
DuffieldHarrison LLP £1,816
Daisy Communications £1,474
Ensco 165 Ltd £509,464
Eamonn Collins £5,000
EdinburghChamber of Commerce £674
EdinburghCouncil (Chesser House) £90,715
EdinburghCouncil (For Flats) £2,631
EliteMedicale £229
Errington Associates £100
Egidijus Valiauga £860
Fife ImagingAssociates £900
FountainCourtApartments £100
Football Safety Officers Ass. £200
GF Capital Solutions £307
John Gibson £2,520
GlenhamProperty £100
GraemeRankin Sports Management Ltd £12,000
GreenStarMedia Ltd £77
Greentech (Sportsturf) Ltd £1,056
G4SSecureSolutions (UK) Ltd £12,087
GroupCall Limited £210
HMRevenue&Customs-VAT £0
HMRevenue&Customs £1,881,065
Hamilton&Brydie £144
Hectic Life £62
HBJGateley Wareing £100
Heriot Watt Sports Village Ltd £145,663
HighlanderKilt Hire Ltd £430
Hitachi Capital (MI Finance) £7
Holiday Inn AberdeenWest £55
HomespringLtd £499
Sven Houston £40
Heart ofMidlothianShareholderAssoc. £5,000
ImpactSigns £6,469
InterluxLtd £254
InterfaceEnvironment £100
JamesArmstrong&CoLtd £1,500
JohnstonCarmichael £100
Jane Lofthouse Johnston £410
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....'nuff said

Anybody with artistic leanings fancy doing a visual representation of the historical financial doping of the tramps similar to the 5 1 Crap in today's Even see if they give it half a page of space.would sell more than the 300 copies that this drivel has

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 07:36 PM
They can get themselves to **** with all this "look how upstanding and righteous we are" pish! Everyone knows hearts for what they really are - shameless, thieves that were quite happy to con charities and small businesses out of money for a bit of cheated glory.

anon1875
28-10-2014, 07:44 PM
Good move. As much as I can't stand them, the new board they have in place has impressed me tbh. Hopefully we follow suit asap.

Gus Fring
28-10-2014, 08:02 PM
Good move. As much as I can't stand them, the new board they have in place has impressed me tbh. Hopefully we follow suit asap.

What part of them impressed you? The charity robbing? The creditor shafting? The redundancies?

Swedish hibee
28-10-2014, 08:13 PM
Words truly fail me.

So not a year after staff got sacked they want the rest of Scottish football to 'follow' how they treat their staff... This coming from a club who didn't pay for their poppies.

Yep. words truly fail indeed.

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 08:17 PM
Words truly fail me.

So not a year after staff got sacked they want the rest of Scottish football to 'follow' how they treat their staff... This coming from a club who didn't pay for their poppies.

Yep. words truly fail indeed.

Yam shirt in aid of Poppy Scotland on sale now for £60. No, it isn't a wind up.

BH Hibs
28-10-2014, 08:19 PM
What was the total on the list?

Just over £28M. But why let the truth get in the way.

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 08:21 PM
Yam shirt in aid of Poppy Scotland on sale now for £60. No, it isn't a wind up.

Simply no shame whatsoever. It really really does defy belief.

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 08:21 PM
Just over £28M. But why let the truth get in the way.

What was the total the big Huns walked away (they don't do walking away, remember) from again?

givescotlandfreedom
28-10-2014, 08:23 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

It's a good thing though this is from a club who could be paying their creditors back instead of spending on a team comfortably at the top of the league.

lord bunberry
28-10-2014, 08:24 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

:faf: I wonder if she said that with a straight face. They really are shameless.

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 08:27 PM
It's a good thing though this is from a club who could be paying their creditors back instead of spending on a team comfortably at the top of the league.

If we have learned one thing over the years is that that manky mob are more than happy to see other people out of pocket and shafted as long as they are still raking in a bit of cheated glory. Some things never change i'm afraid.

**** Then. **** Now. **** Forever

Swedish hibee
28-10-2014, 08:37 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club"

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Stan the Man
28-10-2014, 08:44 PM
Hundred per cent agree, but none of that is the fault of the staff who will benefit from the pay rise.

Get a room

SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
28-10-2014, 08:45 PM
Souvenir issue of the EEN I reckon, but, that aside, it's a good policy, and one that Hibs should be part of.

Dont agree. Hibs should be keeping costs as low as possible and putting every penny into the team.

I don't get the 'living wage' thing. The minimum wage is the lowest deemed by government to be acceptable. Where has this arbitrary 1.15 extea come from?

CA Hibby
28-10-2014, 08:46 PM
They make this sound great and are enjoying the great publicity, however it would be interesting to see how many employees this actually covers, 10 maybe 20 at most...most of their employees are not official HMFC employees but contract workers...so are they going to make their vendors pay more or subsidies them to help them pay more..Hell no, but lets not say anything cause nobody is asking.

Canongatehibs
28-10-2014, 08:47 PM
woopy doo.....

so, they pay an extra pound odds more than Peter and Paul! That'll pay for bills etc haha

Kaiser1962
28-10-2014, 08:50 PM
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff...


Slightly over £70m I think.

hibee-boys
28-10-2014, 08:56 PM
Let's hope that a giant dose of bad karma comes around and bites them in the arse! Utterly shameful to be trying to take the moral high ground over any organisation after leaving all these charities, businesses etc out of pocket!

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 09:00 PM
So far two major questions from the small print -

1, Are some of those who will benefit from the living wage rate also on zero hour contracts? The two policies seem contradictory to me.

2, What about sub-contracted staff? I assume this would include things such as food stalls, where staff are likely to earn less than the living wage rate.

renato
28-10-2014, 09:01 PM
As someone who knows one of their employees who lost his job as a result of their financial doping, that's an incredibly shakey moral high ground Budge is trying to take on behalf of that "institution".

The Famous indeed. The club with no shame.

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 09:04 PM
As someone who knows one of their employees who lost his job as a result of their financial doping, that's an incredibly shakey moral high ground Budge is trying to take on behalf of that "institution".

The Famous indeed. The club with no shame.

Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous" :faf::faf::faf::faf:

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 09:05 PM
Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous" :faf::faf::faf::faf:

They're famous in Gorgie. That's being a big team.

Speedy
28-10-2014, 09:06 PM
Is that right? It defeats the whole object of help for the low paid. Surely the term 'living wage' requires having enough working hours to live on! Zero hour contracts should be illegal in all but the most exceptional circumstances IMO.

The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.

Kato
28-10-2014, 09:06 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

What a two faced old satchel-pan.


Did she ever complain about values when Heart of Midlothian FC were ripping off every business and charity they came in contact with?

GreenLake
28-10-2014, 09:07 PM
They haven't paid a living soul never mind a living wage

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 09:07 PM
The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.

Perhaps you already live off of much more?

FranckSuzy
28-10-2014, 09:10 PM
They haven't paid a living soul never mind a living wage

:faf: :top marks

Kato
28-10-2014, 09:14 PM
Nearly choked on my tea when I heard that fat **** Ian Murray on STV News talking (with a completely straight face) about how this is "entirely in keeping with the principles that the club and the supporters hold dearly."


It's a given that journalists rarely ask "difficult" questions these days.

I would have asked the fat slavering, freeloading, trough-nosed, expense fiddler for some past examples of these principles, and also if the club had ever failed to meet them.

Jack Hackett
28-10-2014, 09:14 PM
The 'living wage' is a load of crap imo.

:agree:

....an extra pound an hour will have their employees really living the high life pfft! Just imagine, they'll be able to afford a night out at the cinema....as long as they're careful and don't spend anything on luxuries like pop corn or a drink of juice

Speedy
28-10-2014, 09:15 PM
Perhaps you already live off of much more?

I do at the moment and I have lived off less than living wage in the past, but that's not really relevant.

The reason I think it's a lot of crap is that not everybody is the same. The living wage of £7.65 applies to anyone outside London - to suggest the cost of living is the same everywhere outside London is utter nonsense.

Even in the same street people will have different costs of living. Bigger people need more energy than small people so will need to eat more (which costs more), people have different travel costs to get to work, some houses are better insulated than other so will cost more/less to heat.

I know it's all averages but doesn't solve the problem imo.

Edit: And not everyone works the same number of hours.

Hibernia&Alba
28-10-2014, 09:21 PM
I do at the moment and I have lived off less than living wage in the past, but that's not really relevant.

The reason I think it's a lot of crap is that not everybody is the same. The living wage of £7.65 applies to anyone outside London - to suggest the cost of living is the same everywhere outside London is utter nonsense.

Even in the same street people will have different costs of living. Bigger people need more energy than small people so will need to eat more (which costs more), people have different travel costs to get to work, some houses are better insulated than other so will cost more/less to heat.

I know it's all averages but doesn't solve the problem imo.

Edit: And not everyone works the same number of hours.

Regional variations in the cost of living are a reality, but anything that helps the lowest paid is progress. We have a huge problem with low pay and casualization of labour.

#FromTheCapital
28-10-2014, 09:23 PM
How noble of a football team to pay their staff a 'living wage' while the playing staff earn a kings ransom for kicking a leather ball about a field for 90 minutes a week. Not something to be shouting about but thats hearts for you.
Football clubs in general should be trying to lower the amount the players are being paid across the board, not screaming from the rooftops about how their other staff are paid £1 an hour more than minimum wage.

hibees 7062
28-10-2014, 09:24 PM
All employees will be paid at least £7.65 per hour; £1.15 per hour more than the national minimum wage. They are the first Scottish football club to introduce the scheme. Full credit to them for making this progressive move, and let's hope Hibs do the same.

:hmmm:

poolman
28-10-2014, 09:24 PM
After the Yams track record any Hibby that comes on here and praises them for this should be ashamed of themselves

HIBERNIAN-0762
28-10-2014, 09:25 PM
Have they paid the appearance and bonus money to former players yet? over half a million quid wasn't it?

HIBERNIAN-0762
28-10-2014, 09:27 PM
After the Yams track record any Hibby that comes on here and praises them for this should be ashamed of themselves

:agree:

Northernhibee
28-10-2014, 09:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCjEsN4E85s

If laughs were valid currency I'd have been able to retire off this video alone.

Bishop Hibee
28-10-2014, 09:29 PM
I wonder how many of their staff are paid less than the living wage at present? Contractors won't be included which could be cleaners, catering staff and others. Grandstanding from Shameless FC.

hibees 7062
28-10-2014, 09:31 PM
What part of them impressed you? The charity robbing? The creditor shafting? The redundancies?

:agree:

Sir David Gray
28-10-2014, 09:31 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

I did notice the irony in that statement there! :greengrin

What "values" would that be then, Ann?

Is that the same values that saw your club rip off countless small businesses in recent years, whilst racking up millions of pounds worth of debt on your way to trying to buy success, and now that it's all gone pear shaped, your club has failed to pay any of them back?

Just checking. :rolleyes:

Gus Fring
28-10-2014, 09:31 PM
So far two major questions from the small print -

1, Are some of those who will benefit from the living wage rate also on zero hour contracts? The two policies seem contradictory to me.

2, What about sub-contracted staff? I assume this would include things such as food stalls, where staff are likely to earn less than the living wage rate.

They don't even earn minimum wage as most of them are under 18.

Sir David Gray
28-10-2014, 09:35 PM
Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous" :faf::faf::faf::faf:

I'm just waiting on them getting a Barcelona inspired "Mes que un club" slogan painted into their seats at Tynecastle.

Carheenlea
28-10-2014, 09:39 PM
The fact Hearts feel the need to shout from the rooftops about this tells you all you need to know about them really.

GreenLake
28-10-2014, 09:51 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

I believe it is entirely "in keeping" other people's money that Heart's values cost others dear.

Jones28
28-10-2014, 09:51 PM
Taking the moral high ground....Jesus wept

Bostonhibby
28-10-2014, 09:53 PM
Are there any other legal requirements or morally right things to do that Jimmie Crankies big sister is likely to announce next?

Will there be a press conference to announce that last months council tax was actually paid? Or how about an EEN exclusive - Hearts finally pay their football debt?

Gorgie newsagent gets his £40?

21.05.2016
28-10-2014, 09:59 PM
How noble of a football team to pay their staff a 'living wage' while the playing staff earn a kings ransom for kicking a leather ball about a field for 90 minutes a week. Not something to be shouting about but thats hearts for you.
Football clubs in general should be trying to lower the amount the players are being paid across the board, not screaming from the rooftops about how their other staff are paid £1 an hour more than minimum wage.

:top marks

EastCalderHibby
28-10-2014, 10:13 PM
woopy doo.....

so, they pay an extra pound odds more than Peter and Paul! That'll pay for bills etc haha

how much is this costing them ffs how many staff do they have that will get the rise
i would think not to many so no big deal :jamboak:

EastCalderHibby
28-10-2014, 10:15 PM
:faf: I wonder if she said that with a straight face. They really are shameless.

you'd need to iron it first :greengrin

hibees 7062
28-10-2014, 10:20 PM
you'd need to iron it first :greengrin

:greengrin

EastCalderHibby
28-10-2014, 10:21 PM
Little off topic but I really cant help but cringe when their fans call themselves "the famous" :faf::faf::faf::faf:

ye but its what they are famous for and football has nothing to with any of it

BoomtownHibees
28-10-2014, 10:31 PM
you'd need to iron it first :greengrin

A 9 iron?

AinsterHibs
28-10-2014, 10:42 PM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.



:faf: More rewriting of history there ya ugly auld trout.

Priceless, and fair :wink::greengrin

leggeto
28-10-2014, 10:57 PM
Its probably mostly stewards it will have any effect on anyway and they are all part time,can't believe they pushing this as look at us look what we've done after all the cheating and bumping they are famous for,tramps of the highest order

CropleyWasGod
28-10-2014, 11:01 PM
Its probably mostly stewards it will have any effect on anyway and they are all part time,can't believe they pushing this as look at us look what we've done after all the cheating and bumping they are famous for,tramps of the highest order

Do they employ the stewards?

Bostonhibby
28-10-2014, 11:04 PM
Do they employ the stewards?

Probably outsource as much as possible to companies that don't pay the "living wage" then make statements like todays.

jacomo
28-10-2014, 11:04 PM
I did notice the irony in that statement there! :greengrin

What "values" would that be then, Ann?

Is that the same values that saw your club rip off countless small businesses in recent years, whilst racking up millions of pounds worth of debt on your way to trying to buy success, and now that it's all gone pear shaped, your club has failed to pay any of them back?

Just checking. :rolleyes:

I can only assume that Ann Budge will now be repaying all those who got ripped off when Hearts went into admin.

Those are the values she's talking about, right? Such as paying the debts you owe to companies and individuals who gave their services and labour in good faith?

GreenPJ
28-10-2014, 11:05 PM
How noble of a football team to pay their staff a 'living wage' while the playing staff earn a kings ransom for kicking a leather ball about a field for 90 minutes a week. Not something to be shouting about but thats hearts for you.
Football clubs in general should be trying to lower the amount the players are being paid across the board, not screaming from the rooftops about how their other staff are paid £1 an hour more than minimum wage.

Its clearly not the footballers that are affected by this. If other clubs paid a 'living wage' as a minimum to all their staff then the Yams would have nothing to crow about.

leggeto
28-10-2014, 11:07 PM
Do they employ the stewards?

No idea,at least Patterson and Nicholson and a few of their mates will get a wage rise

HibbiesandtheBaddies
28-10-2014, 11:24 PM
TheRangers Football Club £1,410


:faf::faf::faf:

Eyrie
28-10-2014, 11:48 PM
They make this sound great and are enjoying the great publicity, however it would be interesting to see how many employees this actually covers, 10 maybe 20 at most...most of their employees are not official HMFC employees but contract workers...so are they going to make their vendors pay more or subsidies them to help them pay more..Hell no, but lets not say anything cause nobody is asking.


So far two major questions from the small print -

1, Are some of those who will benefit from the living wage rate also on zero hour contracts? The two policies seem contradictory to me.

2, What about sub-contracted staff? I assume this would include things such as food stalls, where staff are likely to earn less than the living wage rate.


I wonder how many of their staff are paid less than the living wage at present? Contractors won't be included which could be cleaners, catering staff and others. Grandstanding from Shameless FC.


how much is this costing them ffs how many staff do they have that will get the rise
i would think not to many so no big deal :jamboak:


Probably outsource as much as possible to companies that don't pay the "living wage" then make statements like todays.

I asked the question at the start of this thread and the above posts make it clear that this is a PR stunt that will cost them very little.

jacomo
29-10-2014, 12:07 AM
I asked the question at the start of this thread and the above posts make it clear that this is a PR stunt that will cost them very little.

I'm sure our local media will investigate and publish the true story.

monteddie
29-10-2014, 12:58 AM
[QUOTE=HIBERNIAN-0762;4210464]:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff

The 35 million quid debt was not squandered by Mrs Budge and regardless of our feelings towards the Jambo's this initiative is honourable, I bet there are many underpaid workers around the Uk who would welcome an extra few quid in their pocket at the end of a work week lets hope this gesture encourages other employers to follow suit.

lord bunberry
29-10-2014, 02:37 AM
[QUOTE=HIBERNIAN-0762;4210464]:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff

The 35 million quid debt was not squandered by Mrs Budge and regardless of our feelings towards the Jambo's this initiative is honourable, I bet there are many underpaid workers around the Uk who would welcome an extra few quid in their pocket at the end of a work week lets hope this gesture encourages other employers to follow suit.
There's nothing wrong with hearts doing this, the irony of it is that a club that has just exited administration boasting about values whilst leaving a trail of destruction in their wake.its like Hannibal Lecture boasting about turning vegetarian.

db03
29-10-2014, 07:22 AM
surely people cant be serious here.
what happened to hearts was down to a previous owner. To say Budge should pay previous debts etc is ridiculous.

If you moved into a new house and the previous tenant hadn't paid council tax and electricity for 2 years and all of a sudden you were being asked to pay these would you just pay them?? No you wouldn't so why on earth would she pay for a previous owners failings?

move on now, yes we can hate them (which I do) but we cant keep harping on about how mad vlad ripped people off.

blackpoolhibs
29-10-2014, 07:29 AM
surely people cant be serious here.
what happened to hearts was down to a previous owner. To say Budge should pay previous debts etc is ridiculous.

If you moved into a new house and the previous tenant hadn't paid council tax and electricity for 2 years and all of a sudden you were being asked to pay these would you just pay them?? No you wouldn't so why on earth would she pay for a previous owners failings?

move on now, yes we can hate them (which I do) but we cant keep harping on about how mad vlad ripped people off.

Can you explain just what these values that ugly bird is on about then please?

db03
29-10-2014, 07:36 AM
Can you explain just what these values that ugly bird is on about then please?

I think her statement is wrong! maybe she is talking about values going forward I don't know but we cant expect her to pay for someone else's finances

blackpoolhibs
29-10-2014, 07:40 AM
I think her statement is wrong! maybe she is talking about values going forward I don't know but we cant expect her to pay for someone else's finances

I'm not going to start guessing what she may be thinking, i'm going on the values that horrible club have held up to now.

And what she says is complete bollox, and a rewriting of history. She's sweeping everything under the carpet and trying to make out they are an upstanding club, when in reality they are not.

FFS next they will be telling us they single handedly won the war. :rolleyes:

db03
29-10-2014, 07:43 AM
I'm not going to start guessing what she may be thinking, i'm going on the values that horrible club have held up to now.

And what she says is complete bollox, and a rewriting of history. She's sweeping everything under the carpet and trying to make out they are an upstanding club, when in reality they are not.

FFS next they will be telling us they single handedly won the war. :rolleyes:

that's why I said I think her statement is wrong.

blackpoolhibs
29-10-2014, 07:45 AM
that's why I said I think her statement is wrong.


So we agree then?

db03
29-10-2014, 07:47 AM
So we agree then?

yes we agree her statement about values is wrong. I just don't get people saying she should pay previous debts

#FromTheCapital
29-10-2014, 07:53 AM
Its clearly not the footballers that are affected by this. If other clubs paid a 'living wage' as a minimum to all their staff then the Yams would have nothing to crow about.

Hearts shouldn't be crowing about anything to do with money - especially when it concerns their staff who only a short time ago weren't getting paid at all.

Bostonhibby
29-10-2014, 08:27 AM
Hearts shouldn't be crowing about anything to do with money - especially when it concerns their staff who only a short time ago weren't getting paid at all.

Agree, the problem is they just can't help themselves, its intheir DNA to grab any chance to try and say the are better than the rest, FFS there will be plenty clubs paying a living wage / their way as a matter of course and not crowing about it as being somehow virtuous or worth highlighting as exceptional.

They might have earned some respect or redemption later on if they'd kept their heads down and paid their way consistently. This is nothing more than attempt to rebrand their image but by seeking to do it on the back of this one should be seen for what it is.

Budge may be the new owner but its the same club, same history, especially recent history. It behaves with the same arrogance and certainly makes no attempt at apology for the things that blackens its name.

Paying a minimum wage to the few it will affect is a lot cheaper than making a goodwill or conscience payment to most of those whose money was stolen-that would be exceptional.

If they seek the publicity like they do here then once its in the public arena its reasonable to scrutinise what they do and why.

Next week they'll be telling us they are the first big club in Europe to put their bins out on time and sort their recycling out.

Kato
29-10-2014, 08:30 AM
[QUOTE=HIBERNIAN-0762;4210464]:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff

The 35 million quid debt was not squandered by Mrs Budge and regardless of our feelings towards the Jambo's this initiative is honourable, I bet there are many underpaid workers around the Uk who would welcome an extra few quid in their pocket at the end of a work week lets hope this gesture encourages other employers to follow suit.


That would funny if it weren't so badly judged not to mention reeky. Still laughed a bit.

I'd agree with you if it mentioned the contrast with the previous regime and how their self-percieved "values" and traditions had been trampled into the ground given Vlad left behind him huge debts and the knock on effects of people losing jobs but they can't mention that. They can't mention that as it would cast a shadow on their "achievements" during that time and that is the last thing they want.

This move is an attempt at lathering a layer of whitewash over those years, no mention of unpaid debts, no mention
of creditors lingin up, no mention of charities shafted, no mention of Vlad's various antics.

I'll give you an exmaple of "honourable". When Tom Farmer put Hibs into receivership and split Hibernian FC away from the disaterous Avon Inns project he paid the clubs debts even though legally there was nothing binding for him to do so. Not just the clubs football debt, every creditor was paid. However things are owrking out now for Farmer that was a trully honourable thing to do.

Let's see Budge do that if their "values" are to be upheld.

Have the share certificates arrived yet?

Speedy
29-10-2014, 08:39 AM
yes we agree her statement about values is wrong. I just don't get people saying she should pay previous debts

People are saying that because of her statement about values.

s.a.m
29-10-2014, 08:43 AM
surely people cant be serious here.
what happened to hearts was down to a previous owner. To say Budge should pay previous debts etc is ridiculous.

If you moved into a new house and the previous tenant hadn't paid council tax and electricity for 2 years and all of a sudden you were being asked to pay these would you just pay them?? No you wouldn't so why on earth would she pay for a previous owners failings?

move on now, yes we can hate them (which I do) but we cant keep harping on about how mad vlad ripped people off.

Clearly, she doesn't have any obligation to pay off Vlad et al's debts. However, I'm not sure your analogy is directly comparable unless the previous occupants of the house are still living in it, albeit with a new owner, and a rearrangement of its finance to allow them to ditch their debts. And if local shops (who had foolishly extended them credit, in spite of evidence of them being abject, feckless shysters), and the local kitchen fitter who went bust because they didn't pay for the state-of-the-art kitchen they had installed in your house are having to watch them live the life of riley with goods that they supplied them free of charge, while boasting about their financial probity.

Some contrition would be appropriate, and they could do with keeping well out of the way of claims of moral superiority while there are local people who have been stiffed by them, and competitors who have lost out to them in terms of players, and sporting success, which have been bought with other people's money.

bigwheel
29-10-2014, 08:45 AM
I'm all for sporting rivalry...but some of the vitriol on this thread is horrible to read...it's a good decision by them, and if they keep making those type of "people" oriented decisions then they will be living to quite different values than the previous regime(s)...To expect them to repair the past is ridiculous, but they can try to get it right going forward. I hope we make the same decision and be fair to all workers around the club.

nonshinyfinish
29-10-2014, 09:09 AM
Hearts owner Ann Budge told the Edinburgh club's website: "We believe it is entirely in keeping with the values we hold dear as a club.

Hearts' values.

Truly the moron's oxymoron.

Kato
29-10-2014, 09:44 AM
I'm all for sporting rivalry...but some of the vitriol on this thread is horrible to read...it's a good decision by them, and if they keep making those type of "people" oriented decisions then they will be living to quite different values than the previous regime(s)...To expect them to repair the past is ridiculous, but they can try to get it right going forward. I hope we make the same decision and be fair to all workers around the club.

OK, but they are implying thesee values have always been with the club.

Not in my lifetime and I'm old.

Hibernia&Alba
29-10-2014, 09:49 AM
OK, but they are implying thesee values have always been with the club.

Not in my lifetime and I'm old.

We all know of their behavior under Romanov, but this move in of itself is a good thing. When high profile organizations like football clubs promise a living wage for staff, it spotlights the national problem we have with low paid, poor quality jobs.

Bostonhibby
29-10-2014, 09:53 AM
OK, but they are implying thesee values have always been with the club.

Not in my lifetime and I'm old.

:agree: Its the trumpet blowing whenever they do anything that they regard as exceptional - they haven't behaved normally for such a long time that they haven't a clue when it would be more dignified to just do something and not say look at us. Cynical rebranding exercise.

Billy McKirdy
29-10-2014, 09:53 AM
I'm curious, do Hibs pay a living wage to all directly employed staff? just a thought.

greenginger
29-10-2014, 10:00 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29807293

I like Budge's comments in the last couple of para's.

Seems to admit the main stand at the PBS is a death trap.

Health and safety alert !

Hibernia&Alba
29-10-2014, 10:02 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29807293

I like Budge's comments in the last couple of para's.

Seems to admit the main stand at the PBS is a death trap.

Health and safety alert !

The entire PBS is a death trap. If they pay me a living wage, I'll gladly demolish it for them.

Bostonhibby
29-10-2014, 10:05 AM
The entire PBS is a death trap. If they pay me a living wage, I'll gladly demolish it for them.

Nah, she's got this one wrong, there cannot be any risks to the public associated with this famous old structure or the Council would have stepped in and acted years ago in the interests of public safety surely.

Hibernia&Alba
29-10-2014, 10:12 AM
I'm curious, do Hibs pay a living wage to all directly employed staff? just a thought.

I haven't heard anything to suggest we do, and as the report yesterday says Yambo is the first to make the commitment, I'm guessing the answer is no. All clubs must have employees who are paid around the minimum wage.

greenginger
29-10-2014, 10:17 AM
How is Budge going to make the Stewarding Company and the Catering Company etc pay this wage ?

Must already have contracts in place for the season or more.

Kato
29-10-2014, 10:33 AM
We all know of their behavior under Romanov, but this move in of itself is a good thing. When high profile organizations like football clubs promise a living wage for staff, it spotlights the national problem we have with low paid, poor quality jobs.

So why not contrast what they are doing now with nefarious doings of Mercer and The Pieman and the increase in those doings under Vlad? Rather than that they are implying they are forever on the cutting edge of philanthropy.

brog
29-10-2014, 10:36 AM
I fully support the principle of a living wage & am pleased this is happening.
However let's look at this club's recent history.
They went bust owing a minimum of £30m to creditors including all of us as taxpayers. They oversaw & endorsed a fraudulent share issue. They stole the season ticket money, though they subsequently honored those purchases. Now Ann Budge may be an honourable lady but she's a hard-headed business woman who took advantage of the above situation to essentially take control of Yams at no cost. If they repaid the £30m they could donate a living wage for a week to 100,000 people! That's the scale of their deceit & to now try & occupy the high moral ground is hypocrisy almost beyond belief & parody.

Bostonhibby
29-10-2014, 10:52 AM
I fully support the principle of a living wage & am pleased this is happening.
However let's look at this club's recent history.
They went bust owing a minimum of £30m to creditors including all of us as taxpayers. They oversaw & endorsed a fraudulent share issue. They stole the season ticket money, though they subsequently honored those purchases. Now Ann Budge may be an honourable lady but she's a hard-headed business woman who took advantage of the above situation to essentially take control of Yams at no cost. If they repaid the £30m they could donate a living wage for a week to 100,000 people! That's the scale of their deceit & to now try & occupy the high moral ground is hypocrisy almost beyond belief & parody.

Yep, right on the money. I was well aware of the social injustices that exist and the living wage issue and didn't need the crusaders of morality from Gorgie to tell me about it or what they are doing to solve it!

rcarter1
29-10-2014, 11:01 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29807293

I like Budge's comments in the last couple of para's.

Seems to admit the main stand at the PBS is a death trap.

Health and safety alert !

Im presuming that Mrs. Budge is preparing to announce that Tynecastle isn't fit for purpose, and that a deal with the council has been struck. In this deal will be:

The sale of Tynecastle and associated land, valued at the very least £20 million

A new stadium, payed for and built by the council, and leased to Hearts at favourable rates (they are an Edinburgh institution, and represent 400,000 people).

An option not to pay the aforementioned rates, should at any time, Hibs are doing better than "the famous"

Hibernia&Alba
29-10-2014, 11:05 AM
I've just had a rare glimpse at Yambo Hunchback to see what they're saying. According to the OP on the thread, the living wage will apply to part time staff and contractors.

Keith_M
29-10-2014, 11:40 AM
I fully support the principle of a living wage & am pleased this is happening.
However let's look at this club's recent history.
They went bust owing a minimum of £30m to creditors including all of us as taxpayers. They oversaw & endorsed a fraudulent share issue. They stole the season ticket money, though they subsequently honored those purchases. Now Ann Budge may be an honourable lady but she's a hard-headed business woman who took advantage of the above situation to essentially take control of Yams at no cost. If they repaid the £30m they could donate a living wage for a week to 100,000 people! That's the scale of their deceit & to now try & occupy the high moral ground is hypocrisy almost beyond belief & parody.


Thanks, that save me a lot of typing.



:thumbsup:



Yams and The Moral High Ground.... they don't do irony over at Tynecastle.

GreenPJ
29-10-2014, 11:47 AM
I'm all for sporting rivalry...but some of the vitriol on this thread is horrible to read...it's a good decision by them, and if they keep making those type of "people" oriented decisions then they will be living to quite different values than the previous regime(s)...To expect them to repair the past is ridiculous, but they can try to get it right going forward. I hope we make the same decision and be fair to all workers around the club.

:agree:

Bad Martini
29-10-2014, 12:30 PM
Until they come out in public, collectively get down on their knees and apologise for decades of cheating, dubious songs and strange obsessions with stupid hats, not to mention absolute finanical meltdown and then bumping abody going, they will still remain (in my eyes and most others) a shower of cheating, minority biggots who have a penchant for stupid hats, sing stupid songs with stupid hand signs in public, who screwed everyone and their dug out their money and who employed some very dubious characters....we need not even go there.

Morals? Registers? Russian hats?

Bams

ENDOF :aok:

inglisavhibs
29-10-2014, 12:54 PM
When they apologise, acknowledge and accept their previous financial collapse and begin to pay back the host of creditors they bumped then I might think about dishing out a tiny modicum of praise.

Until then, that lot can **** off.
Including the £25m they owed the Lithuanian public.

Deansy
29-10-2014, 01:12 PM
What really boils my urine is that it wasn't just Romanov responsible for their 30+ years of 'Finance Football' - successive owners all played their part in it (Mercer £5m, Robertson£20) !. There's a 'culture' deeply-ingrained at the PBS, one of 'anything goes' as long as their club doesn't revert to what they were before Mercer in the late 70's- a club on it's way out !!. Budge calls the shots at the moment, but I have NO DOUBT when they hit a bad-patch (and they will if Sunday's display is anything to go by), that 'character' will re-emerge. There's generations of them that know of no other way !

Kato
29-10-2014, 02:08 PM
What really boils my urine is that it wasn't just Romanov responsible for their 30+ years of 'Finance Football' - successive owners all played their part in it (Mercer £5m, Robertson£20) !. There's a 'culture' deeply-ingrained at the PBS, one of 'anything goes' as long as their club doesn't revert to what they were before Mercer in the late 70's- a club on it's way out !!. Budge calls the shots at the moment, but I have NO DOUBT when they hit a bad-patch (and they will if Sunday's display is anything to go by), that 'character' will re-emerge. There's generations of them that know of no other way !

They ran themselves into the ground with little success from the mid-60's to late 70's as well, which gave Mercer his in.

That's their "values", spend-spend-spend with little regard to he future.

Calum68
29-10-2014, 02:49 PM
If Hibs were to pay the minimum wage of £7.65 p/h, I would estimate that the folks in the food kiosks would be getting around £7,65 for serving 3 or 4 in the queue.

StevieC
29-10-2014, 03:10 PM
I'd agree with you if it mentioned the contrast with the previous regime and how their self-percieved "values" and traditions had been trampled into the ground given Vlad left behind him huge debts ...

If only it was just Vlad ... Hearts were running up debts before Mercer even took over!

The "values" she is talking about must be the ones from way back, that helped Hearts to win a World War.

calumhibee1
29-10-2014, 03:46 PM
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

Any daft bat can write off 35 million quid and start again debt free, disgusting arrogance as usual from these mutants.

Hilarious stuff...

Really? I'll need to find some daft bint to do it for me. :greengrin

calumhibee1
29-10-2014, 03:47 PM
I'm all for sporting rivalry...but some of the vitriol on this thread is horrible to read...it's a good decision by them, and if they keep making those type of "people" oriented decisions then they will be living to quite different values than the previous regime(s)...To expect them to repair the past is ridiculous, but they can try to get it right going forward. I hope we make the same decision and be fair to all workers around the club.

Exactly the way I see it. :top marks

Geo_1875
29-10-2014, 04:44 PM
If they wanted to do the right thing they'd go ahead without the fanfare. They have now put pressure on their contractors to pay the living wage while running their business while they can easily meet their own commitment to the handful of directly employed staff affected. And remember that Budge will have no compuction to letting staff go to balance the books. She does have previous.

EastCalderHibby
29-10-2014, 04:54 PM
I've just had a rare glimpse at Yambo Hunchback to see what they're saying. According to the OP on the thread, the living wage will apply to part time staff and contractors.

did it not say they had to be over 21 could be wrong

Pete
29-10-2014, 05:09 PM
A "living wage" in Edinburgh would be about £20 an hour. Even at that you might only have a few quid left after you've helped to pay for someone else's buy-to-let investment. :-(

Bostonhibby
29-10-2014, 05:48 PM
When they do "introduce" this concept they will have to do it gradually and really carefully to the ones who were on the books previously at the time when their employer stopped paying them because of their previous cavalier approach to spending money that wasn't theirs to spend.

HUTCHYHIBBY
30-10-2014, 05:15 PM
I just left a boozer outside Penicuik as some boy on his way to The Jambo Shareholders meeting was mouthing off about this to whoever was willing to listen, quite entertaining how short their memories are! Fuds!

3pm
30-10-2014, 05:23 PM
They do things right. Big team.:not worth:fibber:

green day
30-10-2014, 10:37 PM
I just left a boozer outside Penicuik as some boy on his way to The Jambo Shareholders meeting was mouthing off about this to whoever was willing to listen, quite entertaining how short their memories are! Fuds!

Its a shareholders dinner, £15 a head including wine, attracts a certain type of cardigan, blue shirt and maroon tie wearing radge. They get some bam like Gary Mackay to stand up and slag us off, then its all away up to The Diggers for a couple of pints.

Mutants

HUTCHYHIBBY
30-10-2014, 11:25 PM
They havnae arrived in The Mill yet! :-)

EH54
31-10-2014, 08:31 AM
Not giving them praise as someone else has said hell will freeze over before i give hearts financial praise however i do hope that all clubs follow suit.

God Petrie
31-10-2014, 02:29 PM
Meaningless nonsense from a club trying desperately to shed a reputation for being disgusting financial doping thieves.

EskbankHibby
31-10-2014, 06:48 PM
It's like hearing a serial killer has returned their library books on time.

Aye, very good, how about paying back some of the creditors you shafted - including the public purse.

Values my arse.

Swedish hibee
31-10-2014, 08:24 PM
It's like hearing a serial killer has returned their library books on time.

Aye, very good, how about paying back some of the creditors you shafted - including the public purse.

Values my arse.

:top marks