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erskine-hibby
11-10-2014, 04:09 PM
It's time we started winning against these part time teams, so far this is nowhere near good enough!

Borderhibbie76
11-10-2014, 04:19 PM
100 per cent not good enough stubbs and why do u persist with Craig and Robertson can u explain??

HH81
11-10-2014, 04:23 PM
What is up? He just got manager of the month, he is allowed an off day.

Forza Fred
11-10-2014, 04:25 PM
What is up? He just got manager of the month, he is allowed an off day.

Bring back Terry Butcher:thumbsup:

DaveF
11-10-2014, 04:28 PM
Almost every game is an off day. I'm not convinced by Stubbs at all. Craig and Robertson don't work. We knew it last season and we still know it know. We are still far to slow in moving the ball and we lack guile. He's failed so far IMO

Hibs7
11-10-2014, 04:32 PM
Huge failure .. We should be beating these teams by 2 or three goals . We are an embarrassment 😳

Onceinawhile
11-10-2014, 04:35 PM
Perhaps if we had bothered to get the team together before the start of the season we might be doing a bit better, but we waited a few weeks to sack butcher and then another few weeks to bring in Stubbs.

Lago
11-10-2014, 04:45 PM
We are where we are and its obviously not good enough. Another poster jokingly says bring back Terry Butcher and to my mind he is not too far off the mark because we took too long to sack him, too long to appoint his successor, appointed a rookie as manager, concentrated on building up the back room staff before looking at the playing staff. As usual persisted with too many who failed previously and brought in a number of loans, some on contracts only till January.
To me a lack of professionalism which will, to me, result in staying in this league next season and Stubbs probably moving on.

Ricky Bobby
11-10-2014, 04:50 PM
For me he has two games left, a defeat to Livi and a pumping off that lot and he is away.

Gmack7
11-10-2014, 04:50 PM
3 5 2 at home when we should be dominating the game is to defensive,it clearly worked at ibrox but did we really need 5 defenders against part timers at home:confused:

Scooter
11-10-2014, 04:54 PM
I like him and id like to give him time to build a squad. I personally think he was restricted in what he was allowed to bring in. We should back him. Get off his back and the players cause it Anit doing any good

Greenblood70
11-10-2014, 04:54 PM
Almost every game is an off day. I'm not convinced by Stubbs at all. Craig and Robertson don't work. We knew it last season and we still know it know. We are still far to slow in moving the ball and we lack guile. He's failed so far IMO

Saved me typing a reply. Agree with every word.

Islington Hibs
11-10-2014, 04:56 PM
I like him and id like to give him time to build a squad. I personally think he was restricted in what he was allowed to bring in. We should back him. Get off his back and the players cause it Anit doing any good


Agree- far too soon to judge. Sure it has been a very disappointing start but it is not all his fault. He had very little time to prepare and seemingly very little money to bring anyone in. We simply cannot seek blaming a manager because a few games go badly. Hibs problems go much deeper than that.

erskine-hibby
11-10-2014, 05:16 PM
How much time do you give a manager of one of the countries, so called, premier football clubs, with all its resources, when he can't get the better of part time opposition?
Not calling for his head, at the moment, but we really need to start winning.

The_Horde
11-10-2014, 05:26 PM
Must admit he needs more time but he's if he doesn't start seeing what everyone else sees soon he's onto a loser.

Bleeds green
11-10-2014, 05:27 PM
He has to take some flack we know it's there after Ross county and ibrox games it's his job to get more from them against the so called lesser teams especially at home


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GreenArmyyy!
11-10-2014, 05:29 PM
Just boring, boring, boring. Worries me how little I care right now. Left 10 minutes early so I got the start of the Scotland game, sad times.

GreenCastle
11-10-2014, 05:34 PM
Better style of play than previous managers - but record seems to be just as bad.

All I want for Hibs to win games - win games then play stylish football once you have won the battle.

Pretty Boy
11-10-2014, 05:37 PM
So ****ing slow.

Moving the ball quickly doesn't have to mean Butcher or Williamson style hoofball. We seem to specialise in 15 touches when 1 will do and 6 passes when 2 would do.

If teams are going to sit in then you have to adapt to deal with that. What works against Rangers away doesn't work at home to part time battlers.

Utter pish and needs sorted pronto.

truehibernian
11-10-2014, 05:40 PM
Huge failure .. We should be beating these teams by 2 or three goals . We are an embarrassment 😳

Hearts, way in lead, should have been two down at least before they scored with an innocuous free kick - versus the mighty Alloa (beat us, drew with The Rangers) - same Hearts who have scored for fun.

Nothing embarrassing, teams will sit in and counter which means it has to be clinical finishing early in games or they grow in confidence.

There is not much difference at all between sides in this league and the bottom 6 in the SPL - simple as that - and we were a bottom 6 SPL club.

Results will come but for me if Craig plays again I have to say I'll question Stubbs - the guy is awful.

ancient hibee
11-10-2014, 06:03 PM
As long as we continue to play in front of the other team's defence instead of quickly getting the ball behind them clubs will love playing us.

21.05.2016
11-10-2014, 06:12 PM
Given the predicament we were in at the end of last season (relegated and in need of huge changes) I would have liked us to have appointed someone with a little more managerial experience. Bringing in someone completely new to management and expecting him to clear up the terrible mess of the club was not the right thing IMO. For me though, the jury is still out on him but I'm not calling for his head just yet. He didn't get enough time in the summer due to being appointed late to bring in a new team.

We are in some mess and unfortuantly it's too big a mess to be cleared up over night.

Spike Mandela
11-10-2014, 06:12 PM
Unbeaten in 4.:stirrer:

silverhibee
11-10-2014, 06:16 PM
For me he has two games left, a defeat to Livi and a pumping off that lot and he is away.

:agree:

Said the same coming home in the car, next two games are massive for him, loses them and there won't even be a play off spot and he should be removed from his position as Hibs manager, it's a results business and he ain't getting them.

djs69
11-10-2014, 06:23 PM
Sack the manager, there's a great idea

B.H.F.C
11-10-2014, 06:28 PM
It's a results business and Stubbs isn't getting them.

Middle of the park hasn't been addressed properly. We are still playing with the same two idiots in there that were a major part of the problem last year. And he let one of them retain the club captaincy.

Don't know if I'm ready to call for his head yet but results need to improve instantly.

League form is completely unacceptable.

Ricky Bobby
11-10-2014, 06:29 PM
Sack the manager, there's a great idea


You do know that we have been playing against part timers and struggling every week?

Onion
11-10-2014, 06:30 PM
For me he has two games left, a defeat to Livi and a pumping off that lot and he is away.

The only way Stubbs will get removed is if Hibs get relegated again. As long as Petrie and Farmer remain, they'll stick by Stubbs and accept many many more embarrassments. They will not want to fork out more money replacing yet another failed manager and squad of players - just won't happen.

IMO there is no limit to the amount of humiliation or crap Petrie is prepared to embrace.

djs69
11-10-2014, 06:33 PM
We are a joke of a club because we don't give managers any time and folk on here want rid after he inherited a pile of crap, and has had one transfer window to bring in his own players. Not acceptable results but sacking him? Ridiculous

Onion
11-10-2014, 06:37 PM
:agree:

Said the same coming home in the car, next two games are massive for him, loses them and there won't even be a play off spot and he should be removed from his position as Hibs manager, it's a results business and he ain't getting them.

Yesterday he picks up Manager of the Month. Three games later he gets sacked ? Never going to happen.

LD and Petrie wrote off this season before it even started.

Pretty Boy
11-10-2014, 06:39 PM
We are a joke of a club because we don't give managers any time and folk on here want rid after he inherited a pile of crap, and has had one transfer window to bring in his own players. Not acceptable results but sacking him? Ridiculous

We are a joke of a club because we have continually appointed dud managers and allowed them to sign dud players. We are then stuck paying these duds off or continuing to pay them a salary when they aren't wanted elsewhere. We have an owner and chairman with minimal ambition and basic failings in almost every area.

The fans wouldn't be questioning another manager if the club was being run properly and we were performing on the field.

HIBERNIAN-0762
11-10-2014, 06:40 PM
He should be banging on Petrie's door demanding money to sign a couple of players now! 25 shots on target and still couldn't score! FFS it's not rocket science!

Eyrie
11-10-2014, 06:40 PM
His tactics are part of our current problem as opposed to the way forward. Too many defenders at home to a part time team and too slow a playing style.

Ricky Bobby
11-10-2014, 06:46 PM
Yesterday he picks up Manager of the Month. Three games later he gets sacked ? Never going to happen.

LD and Petrie wrote off this season before it even started.


Lets face it he was never manager of the month, an absolute farce. Another couple of defeats and their hand might be forced as crowds are going to disappear and we all know Mr Petries not got the stomach for that.

HibbingtonHibs
11-10-2014, 06:48 PM
LD and Petrie wrote off this season before it even started.

And some folk say they are never correct. Pah!

Ricky Bobby
11-10-2014, 06:49 PM
He should be banging on Petrie's door demanding for money to sign a couple of players now! 25 shots on target and still couldn't score! FFS it's not rocket science!


I would not give him a shiny shilling until he can get this group to compete against part timers.

Pretty Boy
11-10-2014, 06:49 PM
He should be banging on Petrie's door demanding for money to sign a couple of players now! 25 shots on target and still couldn't score! FFS it's not rocket science!

We don't have any money to give him.

Remember when we were told that Rods financial prudence would have us outspending everyone if we were just a bit patient. Another myth around the teflon chairman.

Bobby's Cinema
11-10-2014, 06:50 PM
Week after week we fail to create clear cut chances. The wrong substitutes are made. The balance in formation does not suit what is needed in the game in terms of defence and attack. This from a team supposedly built to be flexible? This team is rigid. Slow, predictable and frighteningly soft.

Hibernia&Alba
11-10-2014, 06:51 PM
Unbeaten in 4.:stirrer:

It's a fair point to make, but unfortunately, Rangers game aside, it's terrible stuff.

wick hibby
11-10-2014, 06:57 PM
I like him and id like to give him time to build a squad. I personally think he was restricted in what he was allowed to bring in. We should back him. Get off his back and the players cause it Anit doing any good

100% agree

bobbyhibs1983
11-10-2014, 08:17 PM
Agree- far too soon to judge. Sure it has been a very disappointing start but it is not all his fault. He had very little time to prepare and seemingly very little money to bring anyone in. We simply cannot seek blaming a manager because a few games go badly. Hibs problems go much deeper than that.

i can understand what you are saying but in contrast, how long has the heartz manager had compared to ours? a few weeks more than our manager?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say heartz would be a lil more restircted than us. I mean, surely they are mor ein a mess money wise than us? though im sure someone will come along and counter that arugment !

Mikey09
11-10-2014, 09:08 PM
For me he has two games left, a defeat to Livi and a pumping off that lot and he is away.


FFS..... :rolleyes:

loanheadhibby
11-10-2014, 09:12 PM
i can understand what you are saying but in contrast, how long has the heartz manager had compared to ours? a few weeks more than our manager?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say heartz would be a lil more restircted than us. I mean, surely they are mor ein a mess money wise than us? though im sure someone will come along and counter that arugment !

pains me to say but absolutely agree. Stubbs is a shambles compared to Neilson. The start to season is completely unacceptable. October and we're already out of the title race. Geezo!

truehibernian
11-10-2014, 09:18 PM
Yesterday he picks up Manager of the Month. Three games later he gets sacked ? Never going to happen.

LD and Petrie wrote off this season before it even started.

Correct in a way mate - I'm convinced the plan is to get into the play off places - playing decent football at the end of season.

This opening round of games is exactly as I envisaged - some good results, heart attack moments, some poor losses - inconsistent down to the disorganised start to the season and unrest.

Second round of games in hopeful of a turn in fortune. Knowledge of teams, opposition players, grounds - injuries and suspensions and other sides squads being stretched. I still think Stubbs will get the side winning, more unhappy that no players seem to be pushing Craig and the likes out of the squad - Young players should be utterly champing at the bit to play in this league and shine.

Craig, Heffernan and Co - they feel they're too good for this league. It shows in their lack of desire, lack of skill, lack of true ability - all very average players who should admit this IS their level, simple as that.

Onion
11-10-2014, 09:29 PM
Lets face it he was never manager of the month, an absolute farce. Another couple of defeats and their hand might be forced as crowds are going to disappear and we all know Mr Petries not got the stomach for that.

Given up trying to guess what Petrie can stomach. His shame appears to have no bounds, his arrogance no limits.

You get the impression that if Hibernian FC was left with no fans or customers, Petrie would have his perfect company :confused:

silverhibee
11-10-2014, 11:08 PM
We don't have any money to give him.

Remember when we were told that Rods financial prudence would have us outspending everyone if we were just a bit patient. Another myth around the teflon chairman.

Our rich owner will sort him out in January surely.

silverhibee
11-10-2014, 11:11 PM
Correct in a way mate - I'm convinced the plan is to get into the play off places - playing decent football at the end of season.

This opening round of games is exactly as I envisaged - some good results, heart attack moments, some poor losses - inconsistent down to the disorganised start to the season and unrest.

Second round of games in hopeful of a turn in fortune. Knowledge of teams, opposition players, grounds - injuries and suspensions and other sides squads being stretched. I still think Stubbs will get the side winning, more unhappy that no players seem to be pushing Craig and the likes out of the squad - Young players should be utterly champing at the bit to play in this league and shine.

Craig, Heffernan and Co - they feel they're too good for this league. It shows in their lack of desire, lack of skill, lack of true ability - all very average players who should admit this IS their level, simple as that.

We are doomed mate.

And chocolate isn't helping :greengrin

Forza Fred
12-10-2014, 10:41 AM
I expect RP, much to everyone's surprise, to announce at the AGM that he is standing down, but there is no way either him or LD will sack Stubbs before Christmas at the very earliest.

If however we are not comfortably place in the top four by then, then even they will have to admit it's not working and changes must be made.

We are in a complete and utter mess and lurch from one disaster to another under current leadership.

We should have been challenging for a very crap Premiership title, now we are in danger of even slipping down another division.

Phil D. Rolls
12-10-2014, 10:46 AM
I expect RP, much to everyone's surprise, to announce at the AGM that he is standing down, but there is no way either him or LD will sack Stubbs before Christmas at the very earliest.

If however we are not comfortably place in the top four by then, then even they will have to admit it's not working and changes must be made.

We are in a complete and utter mess and lurch from one disaster to another under current leadership.

We should have been challenging for a very crap Premiership title, now we are in danger of even slipping down another division.

We are currently one victory off the top four, and five points off second place.

rcarter1
12-10-2014, 12:08 PM
i can understand what you are saying but in contrast, how long has the heartz manager had compared to ours? a few weeks more than our manager?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say heartz would be a lil more restircted than us. I mean, surely they are mor ein a mess money wise than us? though im sure someone will come along and counter that arugment !

Because they have been allowed to shed 25million+ of debt, they have started from a very strong financial position. Their crowds are almost double ours and so they are bringing almost twice the ticket revenue than us. Of course they have to pay back Madge, but in addition to ticket sales thousands of Hearts fans are paying direct debits to help this process. They are bringing in massive amounts compared to us.

Their long term issue will be Tynecastle, but that isn't holding them back this season.

blackpoolhibs
12-10-2014, 02:30 PM
We are currently one victory off the top four, and five points off second place.

:greengrin Wish i had a pound for every time i read that.

Phil D. Rolls
12-10-2014, 02:38 PM
:greengrin Wish i had a pound for every time i read that.

Me too. :agree:

MM19
12-10-2014, 02:59 PM
i can understand what you are saying but in contrast, how long has the heartz manager had compared to ours? a few weeks more than our manager?

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say heartz would be a lil more restircted than us. I mean, surely they are mor ein a mess money wise than us? though im sure someone will come along and counter that arugment !

They knew they were going to be in this league and their supporters were just glad they still had a club and they bought season tickets. They had come on to a good run of form at the end of last season which they have carried on this season. They brought in the two midfield players from Dundee United and a couple of others and have a strong squad.

We thought we would be in the premier league with Butcher still the manager. He probably had players lined up to come in. But we take too long to sack him let him get rid of players then take time to bring in Stubbs by which time it's nearly the start of the season and we're left with most of the players that got us relegated. So at least they were ready for this season we clearly aren't.

sesoim
12-10-2014, 03:06 PM
What is up? He just got manager of the month, he is allowed an off day.


That has to be the biggest joke ever. It shows how far we have sunk if the FA think getting Hibs to win two games in a month merits that award.

sesoim
12-10-2014, 03:06 PM
Bring back Terry Butcher:thumbsup:


At least he got Inverness promoted first time. How many attempts do you think Stubbs will need?

Phil D. Rolls
12-10-2014, 03:10 PM
At least he got Inverness promoted first time. How many attempts do you think Stubbs will need?

Aye, and Mussolini had the trains running on time. There's positives in every situation. :rolleyes:

sesoim
12-10-2014, 03:21 PM
Sack the manager, there's a great idea



It would be a better idea than appointing him in the first place. Who would have thought that a guy who has been in England for years and has never managed a team in his life would struggle to adapt to taking over a lower division club in another country?

Franck Stanton
12-10-2014, 03:22 PM
I like him and id like to give him time to build a squad. I personally think he was restricted in what he was allowed to bring in. We should back him. Get off his back and the players cause it Anit doing any good

At last, a sensible post. Well said that man.

sesoim
12-10-2014, 03:29 PM
Yesterday he picks up Manager of the Month. Three games later he gets sacked ? Never going to happen.

LD and Petrie wrote off this season before it even started.



Unfortunately all true. No matter how bad their appointments are, we have to sit through the slow motion car crash until they see fit to sack them. This season is going to be miserable. With Stubbs we might scrape 4th, but no way will we get promotion. Then Dempster, on behalf of Petrie and Farmer, will be forced to go around humiliatingly begging for us to buy more season tickets for next season with the promise that things will be better.

I fear for just how low the crowds will be next season if something major doesn't happen to the club.