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Canongatehibs
05-10-2014, 12:12 PM
2 more marches through Holyrood yesterday by west coast Orangemen.

Police bikes and patrols to escort them at our cost too.

I'd lie to know why they get away with this. Get back to your own caves i say :agree:

Scouse Hibee
05-10-2014, 12:40 PM
2 more marches through Holyrood yesterday by west coast Orangemen.

Police bikes and patrols to escort them at our cost too.

I'd lie to know why they get away with this. Get back to your own caves i say :agree:


Now if only you could hire water cannon trucks.

Moulin Yarns
05-10-2014, 12:46 PM
Now if only you could hire water cannon trucks.


That might not be as difficult as it sounds, Chris Law is a good guy. :wink:


water (https://www.facebook.com/SpiritofIndy)

Chibs
05-10-2014, 12:51 PM
I don't have problem with it myself.
If they want to prance down some street blowing whistles and twirling batons in memory of some homosexual then fair play to them.

Phil D. Rolls
05-10-2014, 01:10 PM
2 more marches through Holyrood yesterday by west coast Orangemen.

Police bikes and patrols to escort them at our cost too.

I'd lie to know why they get away with this. Get back to your own caves i say :agree:

Knowing Edinburgh Council, they will see it as good tourism income.

NAE NOOKIE
05-10-2014, 01:24 PM
2 more marches through Holyrood yesterday by west coast Orangemen.

Police bikes and patrols to escort them at our cost too.

I'd lie to know why they get away with this. Get back to your own caves i say :agree:

They have the support of the establishment though. The head of state is barred from marrying a ( and I quote from the act of union ) "Papist". How can you expect to stamp out bigotry when its enshrined in the law of the land.

Phil D. Rolls
05-10-2014, 01:38 PM
They have the support of the establishment though. The head of state is barred from marrying a ( and I quote from the act of union ) "Papist". How can you expect to stamp out bigotry when its enshrined in the law of the land.

What's the Catholic church's views on mixed marriage?

Mr White
05-10-2014, 04:22 PM
What's the Catholic church's views on mixed marriage?

Better than their views on same-sex ones I'd guess.

Phil D. Rolls
05-10-2014, 04:26 PM
Better than their views on same-sex ones I'd guess.

Im really looking for the bar to be a bit higher than that.

i genuinely don't know, but can a Protestant marry a Catholic without changing their religion, and the church recognise the marriage? What's the deal - in addition, how many Protestant popes have there been; I'm not aware of any, and wonder if this is down to some ecumenical reason, or is merely a coincidence.

Mr White
05-10-2014, 04:31 PM
Im really looking for the bar to be a bit higher than that.

http://www.aboutcatholics.com/beliefs/can-a-catholic-marry-a-non-catholic/

NAE NOOKIE
05-10-2014, 04:37 PM
What's the Catholic church's views on mixed marriage?

I have no idea, but I can guess. Whatever restriction each denomination or religion for that matter wants to stick on its adherents is a matter for them and the conscience of those adherents.

The Queen's position as head of the church of England means she could never have married a Catholic .... fine, that's a matter for her and her church. But because the law also says the Queen and her successors cannot marry a Catholic or ever be Catholic, the effect is that a large portion of the UK are barred from the office of head of state in their own country because of their religion.

In a modern democratic society where fair and equal treatment for all irrespective of race, creed, sex or religion is taken as a basic human right, restriction to the post of head of state for any of those reasons, especially in law, is indefensible and yet another reason, apart from the obvious one, as to why the position of head of state should not be the sole preserve of the royal family.

Stranraer
05-10-2014, 08:17 PM
Sad morons the lot of them.

Lucius Apuleius
05-10-2014, 08:35 PM
Is she allowed to marry anyone of an alternative religion?

Phil D. Rolls
06-10-2014, 07:22 AM
I have no idea, but I can guess. Whatever restriction each denomination or religion for that matter wants to stick on its adherents is a matter for them and the conscience of those adherents.

The Queen's position as head of the church of England means she could never have married a Catholic .... fine, that's a matter for her and her church. But because the law also says the Queen and her successors cannot marry a Catholic or ever be Catholic, the effect is that a large portion of the UK are barred from the office of head of state in their own country because of their religion.

In a modern democratic society where fair and equal treatment for all irrespective of race, creed, sex or religion is taken as a basic human right, restriction to the post of head of state for any of those reasons, especially in law, is indefensible and yet another reason, apart from the obvious one, as to why the position of head of state should not be the sole preserve of the royal family.

Thanks for explaining it from that perspective. I was thinking about it from a historic angle. In the modern world an hereditary head of state, defending a faith makes no sense at all.

hibbydog
12-10-2014, 08:28 AM
Orange marches make my blood boil.

I can accept someone wanting to practise their religion behind closed doors, but this is more about celebrating a battle hundreds of years ago, and rubbing peoples faces in it. Pure hatred.

Intentionally or not, orange marches attract rangers strip wearing, I'll informed knuckle draggers who are just there to swig some buck fast and cause bother.

Not exactly a fair comparison, but would the Scottish government be so accommodating if they were approached by a bunch of pseudo Muslims who wanted to March celebrating 9/11?!!!

Beneath contempt IMO.

Lucius Apuleius
12-10-2014, 12:15 PM
Orange marches make my blood boil.

I can accept someone wanting to practise their religion behind closed doors, but this is more about celebrating a battle hundreds of years ago, and rubbing peoples faces in it. Pure hatred.

Intentionally or not, orange marches attract rangers strip wearing, I'll informed knuckle draggers who are just there to swig some buck fast and cause bother.

Not exactly a fair comparison, but would the Scottish government be so accommodating if they were approached by a bunch of pseudo Muslims who wanted to March celebrating 9/11?!!!

Beneath contempt IMO.

I think you could take 9 out of 10 people on an orange walk and ask them where their nearest Kirk is and they would not be able to answer. They certainly do not walk in the name of my religion.