Why did we buck the trend

[NAE NOOKIE]

Given the relatively large victory for No in every East Coast district south of Dundee, what are folks views on why the two polls on here appear to suggest that as a group Hibbies were so firmly in the Yes camp?

[JeMeSouviens]

Given the relatively large victory for No in every East Coast district south of Dundee, what are folks views on why the two polls on here appear to suggest that as a group Hibbies were so firmly in the Yes camp?

Online footy forums are predominantly populated by males of working age. Strong Yes demographics. If you polled a bowling club ladies' night, you'd get the opposite. :wink:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Given the relatively large victory for No in every East Coast district south of Dundee, what are folks views on why the two polls on here appear to suggest that as a group Hibbies were so firmly in the Yes camp?

There's only so many hours in the day you can discuss politics. :stirrer:

[NAE NOOKIE]

There's only so many hours in the day you can discuss politics. :stirrer:

File it under Anthropology then ...... :greengrin

[Phil D. Rolls]

File it under Anthropology then ...... :greengrin

Is that a new kind of cereal?

[NAE NOOKIE]

Online footy forums are predominantly populated by males of working age. Strong Yes demographics. If you polled a bowling club ladies' night, you'd get the opposite. :wink:

F Me ...... a reasonable and logical answer already.

I demand that someone refutes it as soon as possible!

[NAE NOOKIE]

Is that a new kind of cereal?

Snap, Crackle, People

[Phil D. Rolls]

F Me ...... a reasonable and logical answer already.

I demand that someone refutes it as soon as possible!

It's one possible answer, but lets not be too hasty - there are surely conspiracy theories worthy of discussion?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Snap, Crackle, People

Shurely - Snack, Crackle, Population?

[NAE NOOKIE]

Shurely - Snack, Crackle, Population?

Nut ............ its ma thread :dummytit:

[Phil D. Rolls]

Nut ............ its ma thread :dummytit:

Cheerio(s) :bye::greengrin

[NAE NOOKIE]

Cheerio(s) :bye::greengrin

:greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Online footy forums are predominantly populated by males of working age. Strong Yes demographics. If you polled a bowling club ladies' night, you'd get the opposite. :wink:

Yep.

Males under 55 are the voters most likely to have voted Yes if you believe the polling being published.

That probably makes up a decent number of the posters on here.

[Geo_1875]

Given the relatively large victory for No in every East Coast district south of Dundee, what are folks views on why the two polls on here appear to suggest that as a group Hibbies were so firmly in the Yes camp?

Could it be that we hold Alec Salmond in such high regard?

[Phil D. Rolls]

Could it be that we hold Alec Salmond in such high regard?

Nah, it's just that anyone arguing for No on here was pretty rubbish. Simples. :greengrin

[McIntosh]

What surprised me is how many Heart's supporters came out for yes. I was surprised to see people who I had grown up with and who came from staunch unionist backgrounds come out for yes. Though on the face of it Hibs supporters in Lothian must have in general voted no - if we are going by a straight statistical breakdown. Regardless of this, it is going to be very difficult to reconcile both sides. I grew up in a deeply sectarian Scotland and I thought that division had been overcome. Sadly the same division has re emerged in an equally grotesque form.

[JeMeSouviens]

What surprised me is how many Heart's supporters came out for yes. I was surprised to see people who I had grown up with and who came from staunch unionist backgrounds come out for yes. Though on the face of it Hibs supporters in Lothian must have in general voted no - if we are going by a straight statistical breakdown. Regardless of this, it is going to be very difficult to reconcile both sides. I grew up in a deeply sectarian Scotland and I thought that division had been overcome. Sadly the same division has re emerged in an equally grotesque form.

It really hasn't. Only the tiny minority of Hun bigots still clinging to the old sectarian division are like that with a new one (see George Square, Glasgow, on Friday). And guess what? Their counterparts in the extreme wing of Sellickness also supported the union (because an iScotland would be an orange paradise apparently :rolleyes:).

The Yes/No division isn't split into readily identifiable, homogenous clumps. It's mixed through families, communites, society in general.

[One Day Soon]

Online footy forums are predominantly populated by males of working age. Strong Yes demographics. If you polled a bowling club ladies' night, you'd get the opposite. :wink:

Spot on JMS

[One Day Soon]

It really hasn't. Only the tiny minority of Hun bigots still clinging to the old sectarian division are like that with a new one (see George Square, Glasgow, on Friday). And guess what? Their counterparts in the extreme wing of Sellickness also supported the union (because an iScotland would be an orange paradise apparently :rolleyes:).

The Yes/No division isn't split into readily identifiable, homogenous clumps. It's mixed through families, communites, society in general.

Not so sure about that, they seemed pretty actively pro-Yes around Celtc.

[JeMeSouviens]

Not so sure about that, they seemed pretty actively pro-Yes around Celtc.

Celtc in general, I agree, but the really hardline "rebels" went with the Galloway line.

[The_Exile]

Celtc in general, I agree, but the really hardline "rebels" went with the Galloway line.


Dunno about that, can't see hardline "rebels" singing songs about the freedom of one country whilst denying it to their own. Mind you they're no the brightest bunch so you never know.

[hibsbollah]

Given the relatively large victory for No in every East Coast district south of Dundee, what are folks views on why the two polls on here appear to suggest that as a group Hibbies were so firmly in the Yes camp?

As Hibs fans we are obviously inextricably linked with losers and lost causes?

[One Day Soon]

As Hibs fans we are obviously inextricably linked with losers and lost causes?


Jesus, that actually FEELS right and I'm not even a Yesser.

[NAE NOOKIE]

As Hibs fans we are obviously inextricably linked with losers and lost causes?

Who can argue with that.

[NAE NOOKIE]

It really hasn't. Only the tiny minority of Hun bigots still clinging to the old sectarian division are like that with a new one (see George Square, Glasgow, on Friday). And guess what? Their counterparts in the extreme wing of Sellickness also supported the union (because an iScotland would be an orange paradise apparently :rolleyes:).

The Yes/No division isn't split into readily identifiable, homogenous clumps. It's mixed through families, communites, society in general.

That sounds like another cereal to me

[One Day Soon]

That sounds like another cereal to me

What's with the cereal references?

[JeMeSouviens]

What's with the cereal references?

Patronising BTNT Lady in the ad: "It's too early for politics, eat your cereal!"

[danhibees1875]

Does anyone know of a more detailed breakdown by geographical region? Is such a thing available?

Thanks ☺

[One Day Soon]

Does anyone know of a more detailed breakdown by geographical region? Is such a thing available?

Thanks ☺


The Parties will certainly have that but I don't know if the Returning Officer publishes any detailed info.

[One Day Soon]

Patronising BTNT Lady in the ad: "It's too early for politics, eat your cereal!"

Ah, got you now. Never seen it.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Ah, got you now. Never seen it.

After the Yes camp fell about laughing it was withdrawn pretty quickly.

If you remember the old sketches by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse in which 1950s people round the dinner table get embarrassed when a woman has an opinion about the economy or politics you will see why it probably attracted female voters to Yes.

[One Day Soon]

After the Yes camp fell about laughing it was withdrawn pretty quickly.

If you remember the old sketches by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse in which 1950s people round the dinner table get embarrassed when a woman has an opinion about the economy or politics you will see why it probably attracted female voters to Yes.


Sounds like an appalling gaffe. In which case if they hadn't run it the No vote would probably have been even higher....

[NAE NOOKIE]

Sounds like an appalling gaffe. In which case if they hadn't run it the No vote would probably have been even higher....

Possibly, though I'm sure the overwhelming majority of female voters made decisions based on more than one stupid advert.

[Gatecrasher]

After the Yes camp fell about laughing it was withdrawn pretty quickly.

If you remember the old sketches by Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse in which 1950s people round the dinner table get embarrassed when a woman has an opinion about the economy or politics you will see why it probably attracted female voters to Yes.
One of my favourite sketches

http://youtu.be/LS37SNYjg8w

[One Day Soon]

One of my favourite sketches

http://youtu.be/LS37SNYjg8w

That's top drawer stuff.

[Phil D. Rolls]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLAewTVmkAU

Still available on You Tube.

[Stranraer]

I think this was a unique referendum campaign in a few ways, the Yes camp were accused of failing to answer questions very well on the currency issue in particular.

Not blaming the media entirely but I think the odds were stacked against us. To my mind, Salmond was demonised the same way Gordon Brown was in the 2010 General election.

Time to move on for me, shook hands with Liberal no campaigners the next day and I now want to work towards a republic.