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Phil MaGlass
17-09-2014, 07:09 PM
Latest gossip has the postal ballot results as 60 percent for yes, seems that one of the officers let the cat out of the bag and is being investigated

oops thought I better add the words rumour at the moment, before ah geet ma erchie kicked

Sammy7nil
17-09-2014, 07:16 PM
Latest gossip has the postal ballot results as 60 percent for yes, seems that one of the officers let the cat out of the bag and is being investigated

oops thought I better add the words rumour at the moment, before ah geet ma erchie kicked

I heard there was 100% spoiled papers a mate heard 80 % No

But it could just be the postal votes are not getting opened or counted until tomorrow :wink:

Pretty Boy
17-09-2014, 07:19 PM
Postal ballots shouldn't have been opened yet.

The officer who let this out the bag should be going to the Police and electoral commision if he believe it to be true.

CropleyWasGod
17-09-2014, 07:19 PM
I read stuff like that on Twitter.

AFAIK, all they're doing just now is "verifying" the votes, eg checking that every postal vote is entitled to, and that there is no double-counting etc.

Don't know that they can start the counting until tomorrow. People with postal votes do have the option to change their minds.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2014, 07:24 PM
As an aside, Celtic players are out of the country on voting day. As this fixture was only announced less than 2 weeks ago, how do the players vote?

eastterrace
17-09-2014, 07:25 PM
I read stuff like that on Twitter.

AFAIK, all they're doing just now is "verifying" the votes, eg checking that every postal vote is entitled to, and that there is no double-counting etc.

Don't know that they can start the counting until tomorrow. People with postal votes do have the option to change their minds.

heard once you have voted you cant just ask to change as your not sure, anyway be brave lets do this.

CropleyWasGod
17-09-2014, 07:27 PM
heard once you have voted you cant just ask to change as your not sure, anyway be brave lets do this.

Looks like you're right...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/independence-referendum-postal-voters-told-4269961

steakbake
17-09-2014, 07:43 PM
heard once you have voted you cant just ask to change as your not sure, anyway be brave lets do this.

Of course you can't. One it's in the box, it's done. This is our one and only chance to take things into our own hands.

JimBHibees
17-09-2014, 07:48 PM
I heard postal votes where placed face down and then only counted after 10pm tomorrow so sounds unlikely.

...WentToMowAnSPL
17-09-2014, 07:49 PM
The fantastic thing is we only have one vote however vocal we are... Roll on tomorrow


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ACLeith
17-09-2014, 08:08 PM
The fantastic thing is we only have one vote however vocal we are... Roll on tomorrow

I've voted in every election since I was 18. Not always the same way, I like to think I have weighed up how I felt at the time but I have never been so excited about one before. It is truly a day that will go down in history, whatever the result.

danhibees1875
17-09-2014, 08:23 PM
How will the results get announced? Gradually by location once counting is done like a general election?

Hibbyradge
17-09-2014, 08:24 PM
I'd prefer 70 - 30, :wink: but I doubt if any of them have been counted yet.

johnbc70
17-09-2014, 08:53 PM
How will the results get announced? Gradually by location once counting is done like a general election?

I got this earlier.

Jim44
17-09-2014, 08:54 PM
Despite the apparent momentum being towards 'yes', it's interesting to see that Betfair is paying out to 'no' bets in the sportsbook section.

Jones28
17-09-2014, 08:55 PM
I got this earlier.

What's the yes rating in the end column?

CropleyWasGod
17-09-2014, 08:59 PM
What's the yes rating in the end column?

That was my question.(I got it last week).

I presumed that it was the PA's estimate of the likelihood of a Yes vote. I drew up a spreadsheet on that basis, and............

It came out 50.3% for Yes.

There are so many variables though, such as turnout in each area, that it's almost meaningless.

Canongatehibs
17-09-2014, 09:09 PM
As an aside, Celtic players are out of the country on voting day. As this fixture was only announced less than 2 weeks ago, how do the players vote?

Postal votes (or proxy).

They (postal) were sent off weeks ago.

johnbc70
17-09-2014, 09:15 PM
What's the yes rating in the end column?

To be honest no idea. Maybe as CWG suggests.

Hibbyradge
17-09-2014, 09:20 PM
Despite the apparent momentum being towards 'yes', it's interesting to see that Betfair is paying out to 'no' bets in the sportsbook section.

That's a very obvious, and relatively cheap, manipulation attempt.

Isn't the owner a big Tory party benefactor?

danhibees1875
17-09-2014, 09:29 PM
I got this earlier.
Much much sooner than I was expecting!

Looks like I'll be waking up to the news rather than getting it at work.

Thanks!

s.a.m
17-09-2014, 09:36 PM
As an aside, Celtic players are out of the country on voting day. As this fixture was only announced less than 2 weeks ago, how do the players vote?

You can organise an emergency proxy vote until 5pm tomorrow. Relative took ill today and was admitted to hospital. Relative voting by proxy for him tomorrow.

joebakerforever
17-09-2014, 09:46 PM
You can organise an emergency proxy vote until 5pm tomorrow. Relative took ill today and was admitted to hospital. Relative voting by proxy for him tomorrow.

Visiting a pal in hospital this afternoon and the nurse asked if we wished them to arrange for him to get a ballot paper tomorrow, which he agreed to.

Good to know that every effort effort is being made to ensure that those unable to go to a Polling Station are being catered for.

Jack
17-09-2014, 09:55 PM
That's a very obvious, and relatively cheap, manipulation attempt.

Isn't the owner a big Tory party benefactor?

The 6 ladies at my work were talking about this this morning.

They don't know anything about betting, I don't know anything about betting. We've all heard about this.

Advertising. They're even talking about it on the BBC. Brand awareness must have gone through the roof!

Jim44
17-09-2014, 10:26 PM
That's a very obvious, and relatively cheap, manipulation attempt.

Isn't the owner a big Tory party benefactor?

I disagree. If the owner was trying to 'cheaply manipulate' voters, he would have had more success by paying out to 'yes' bets and thereby strengthening the 'no' resolve. It's all about your point of view and of course it may have been financially unviable to pay out on 'yes' bets.

Jones28
18-09-2014, 01:04 AM
That was my question.(I got it last week).

I presumed that it was the PA's estimate of the likelihood of a Yes vote. I drew up a spreadsheet on that basis, and............

It came out 50.3% for Yes.


There are so many variables though, such as turnout in each area, that it's almost meaningless.

Thank you CWG 👍

Hannah_hfc
18-09-2014, 01:25 AM
Despite the apparent momentum being towards 'yes', it's interesting to see that Betfair is paying out to 'no' bets in the sportsbook section.
Noticed a couple of the bookies giving fairly big odds on a Yes win. With the opinion polls being so close I take it they'll be assuming undecided voters will sway towards no.

GreenLake
18-09-2014, 03:30 AM
Noticed a couple of the bookies giving fairly big odds on a Yes win. With the opinion polls being so close I take it they'll be assuming undecided voters will sway towards no.

Making people think the election is lost causes some to not bother voting.

Persevere80
18-09-2014, 07:50 AM
Job done :)

Persevere80
18-09-2014, 07:52 AM
Time to get the Scotland top on. Grab myself a whisky and some matchsticks for the eyes and sit in front if the TV for the night.

Keith_M
18-09-2014, 09:07 AM
That's a very obvious, and relatively cheap, manipulation attempt.

Isn't the owner a big Tory party benefactor?


That was my feeling as well.

Bookies announces pay out on No -- Yes voters think what's the point and don't bother voting.


That might sound a bit paranoid but could anyone else come up with a reasonable explanation, given the closeness of various polls (including one that has Yes ahead) why a Bookie would decide to pay out now?

The_Exile
18-09-2014, 10:10 AM
That was my feeling as well.

Bookies announces pay out on No -- Yes voters think what's the point and don't bother voting.


That might sound a bit paranoid but could anyone else come up with a reasonable explanation, given the closeness of various polls (including one that has Yes ahead) why a Bookie would decide to pay out now?

They get their name in every newspaper and media outlet for a fraction of the price of what it would've cost to take out bona-fida adverts in said newspapers and media outlets. Any publicity is good publicity, it's even better if it's as cheap as what the payout cost Betfair.

Phil D. Rolls
18-09-2014, 10:29 AM
I got this earlier.

25% of the votes in the the three big cities. No chance of an early declaration by the looks of it.

Speedy
18-09-2014, 11:48 AM
They get their name in every newspaper and media outlet for a fraction of the price of what it would've cost to take out bona-fida adverts in said newspapers and media outlets. Any publicity is good publicity, it's even better if it's as cheap as what the payout cost Betfair.

It could potentially cost them nothing. If no comes in (which is the most likely result) then it's cost them no more to pay out early compared to waiting.

CB_NO3
18-09-2014, 12:00 PM
Am sure I read someone put a huge lump sum on a No vote down south. Something like 800k so that will deter the bookies price.

Glorious St Pat
18-09-2014, 03:36 PM
Get yourself up to Tbe Radical Rd... Licence until 5.00

JimBHibees
18-09-2014, 03:59 PM
Get yourself up to Tbe Radical Rd... Licence until 5.00

Ticket only I think.

Squealing pig
18-09-2014, 07:19 PM
Tried to vote name not on the list lol so can't vote hope I don't go to a no vote then :(

CropleyWasGod
18-09-2014, 07:22 PM
Tried to vote name not on the list lol so can't vote hope I don't go to a no vote then :(

If your name's not there, how can you be counted as anything? :wink:

And pay yer Council Tax.....:cb