Eoin Doyle on fire

[Hibs1992]

Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

:aok:

[Hibeesmad]

I posted about him on a thread a few weeks back about ex players doing well for someone to criticise him and say he's nothing special. He will be in the Championship next season at this rate, big miss imo

[silverhibee]

Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

:aok:

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[TheFamous1875]

He always had the potential to be a good striker, granted it wasn't the potential Griffiths has which is why he played second fiddle to him. Maybe now that he's the main man in his team he's risen to the occasion and is able to competently take on the responsibility of a #9.

I remember thinking at the end of his last season with us that we needed better than him and only then we would push on (under the assumption that we would be keeping Sparky), but had we kept him on as our main striker and the replacement for Griffiths' goals, I don't think we'd be in the division we are in now. He has a good engine, pace, and reads the game well and I think he'll go on to have a good career down South, possibly in the Championship.

[SteveHFC]

Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?

[Hibeesmad]

Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?

Every player who leaves Hibs seems to go and do well, our club is cursed

[frazeHFC]

Always liked him, glad he's doing great down there. Cracking few days for him!

[TheFamous1875]

Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?

It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

[Bishop Hibee]

Sparky would have scored 20 goals by now in that league :wink:

[GreenCastle]

It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

Great post.

So true about players being played out of position and basically ruining them.

Agree with everything you said - sad but true.

[jodjam]

Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?

Not true

[Casper]

It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

Great post


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[Pete]

Every player who leaves Hibs seems to go and do well, our club is cursed

Mince and mince again.

[marinello59]

Why is it everytime a striker leaves us goes on to do well?

He was a decent player with us. It's no surprise he is doing well.

[s.a.m]

I think that, in general, a struggling team will usually be worse than the sum of its parts. There will always be a few players who would perform better in a team that was playing well, or just differently.

[Cropley10]

The Scottish game did not suit him. He struggled to retain the ball and was at bad at heading as Collins. Delighted he's doing well for himself.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Isn't the left back currently at Hull, that Celtc let go for free, a better example just now? I know that there is no chance of self harm with that one but I guess it all depends on the general point that you want to make?

[LancsHibs]

Sparky would have scored 20 goals by now in that league :wink:

Sparky was in that league this time last season! Not sure exactly how many he did score by this time? Bet it's less!

[MSK]

Good luck to him, one great memory was his superb half volley v Aberdeen at Pittodrie ..:top marks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67AonA2jR4

[rcarter1]

It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

Great post! :thumbsup: The confusion at our club is a chronic problem as you say, and a reason why we need to give Stubbs a good stretch of time as there is a lot to sort out.. I just hope that the people at the club who understand football recognise the problems so they can address them. Ive written off any high expectations for this season, although the play offs will give us something to realistically aim for. Meanwhile, Im hoping we can move in the right direction…

[Ronniekirk]

Good luck to him, one great memory was his superb half volley v Aberdeen at Pittodrie ..:top marks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67AonA2jR4

Was at that game and it came out of nothing .great strike but he wasn't doing that week in week out but he certainly gave his all and tracked back for the team as well

[easty]

Good luck to him, but I'll judge him on his time playing in our side. Occasionally pulled something out the bag, but more often than not was anonymous. Wasn't sad to see him go.

Won't be the last player to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do well. In the same way David Stephens won't be the last person to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do *****.

[erin go bragh]

Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

:aok:
Hibs offered ED a new contract but he turned it down .
The header he missed early doors in the SC final against Celtic summed up his time with us im afraid .
Ggtth

[jacomo]

Mince and mince again.

Really? You don't think that Hibs have made a mess of things?

Doyle left us after accepting an offer from Chesterfield - with rumours that we only offered him a contract on reduced terms, no wonder he went elsewhere. We lost an adaptable player who could play wide or through the middle, turns out he's developed into quite a striker and could have helped us cope with the loss of LG.

Instead we signed James Collins.

It's been a mess. Let's hope those days are behind us.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

The ginger Messi :greengrin

[Pete]

Really? You don't think that Hibs have made a mess of things?

Doyle left us after accepting an offer from Chesterfield - with rumours that we only offered him a contract on reduced terms, no wonder he went elsewhere. We lost an adaptable player who could play wide or through the middle, turns out he's developed into quite a striker and could have helped us cope with the loss of LG.

Instead we signed James Collins.

It's been a mess. Let's hope those days are behind us.

:confused:

He said that nearly every player that leaves us goes onto better things and he also said that we are "cursed". Both statements are utter mince.

[MSK]

Was at that game and it came out of nothing .great strike but he wasn't doing that week in week out but he certainly gave his all and tracked back for the team as wellI think, like Sproule he was a raw talent, a bit rough round the edges but no doubt with decent coaching he could have turned out a good player for us ..I liked him & its good to see he is now happy down south & in particular, scoring goals ..

[jacomo]

:confused:

He said that nearly every player that leaves us goes onto better things and he also said that we are "cursed". Both statements are utter mince.

Ok, not literally true. We've given contracts to plenty of players who simply weren't good enough, and proved that by failing to win a contract at a decent level elsewhere after leaving us. And no, I don't believe in witchcraft.

However, something has clearly been very wrong. Are you content to admonish those who complain about this? I'm not. I want it to change.

In Eoin Doyle's case, here is a player that we should have pushed the boat out to keep, but didn't. Yet more evidence of a failed strategy.

[Leith Mo]

Matt Done has also been banging goals in lately - Rochdale I think? scored again last night - though never rated him. I think Doyle didn't get the best of times here as probably in Sparky's shadow in terms of number of goals scored

[Bronson]

Doyle's movement was great, he just couldn't hit a barn door up here for some reason or other. I was a critic of him when he was here but I'd have him back over the strikers we've had the last 2 seasons i.e. Heff, Collins, Vine etc.

Good to see him doing well though, will eternally love him for that goal v Falkirk.:wink:

[calumhibee1]

Good luck to him, but I'll judge him on his time playing in our side. Occasionally pulled something out the bag, but more often than not was anonymous. Wasn't sad to see him go.

Won't be the last player to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do well. In the same way David Stephens won't be the last person to underwhelm at Hibs then go on to do *****.

To be fair, although Barnet isn't that high a level he's been there POTY the last 2 seasons. :agree:

[Smartie]

It's because we're fundamentally flawed as a football club and as a business. The amount of players who could have done well here who didn't mostly comes down to the managing of them whilst they're here; they don't have the correct players around them, they're not in the correct position, they style of play doesn't suit their attributes and they don't have the appropriate assimilation into the club as it's already on a negative and downwards trajectory. It's part bad recruitment and part bad squad building.

Collins could've scored a barrowload had he the service in a style that suited him, rather than doing a terrible Leigh Griffiths' impersonation (Fenlon should've adapted to Collins' strengths, instead he clearly did the complete opposite).

Heffernan's legs are gone - in order for him to do anything of remote merit, he needs one or two fast dynamic players creating and serving the ball to him on a plate. He does not have the legs to play the running game and is a lost cause unless he has the support in attack.

These are just two examples of players who could do a job in football but can't at our club as everything's set against their attributes. They can't adjust as they're not talented enough and this is the level that we are at.

Other examples are Harris being the main attacking outlet when he obviously isn't ready for that and laterally stifling his confidence to an all time low, Stanton on the wing, Handling on the wing, Craig and Robertson in holding midfield roles and both cancelling each other out of the game when they should have someone doing the holding role for them (Stevenson). There's are just a few examples of how you can get the little things wrong and it can cost you your job and damage your reputation.

The club itself have reinforced this climate of mediocrity over the last 6-7 years and it's became second nature to this club; quick fixes (manager changes, 'marquee' players who're past it) that try to cease the bleeding whilst the blood loss rises and continues to flow and towers above the plaster and inevitably envelops it. That's why we're relegated and that's I'm up at midnight on a Tuesday on a tangent of overwrote nonsense annoyed about how my great club is ****ed at the hands of baboons dressed as blazers!

Cracking post and cuts right through to what the main problem is imo.

We have a limited budget - that we know. But the budget we have absolutely has to be spent in the best possible way, so we have to have a clearly defined playing style with players brought in - none of whom will be the finished article - who can carry out the role that is required of them instead of our usual "square pegs round holes" nonsense.

FWIW I think Stubbs and Dempster realise this and have started to address it. It will take a lot more than one transfer window to undo 7 years or so of misdirection though.

It's a shame that it's this year of all years that we've decided to try and get our house in order with so much pressure to get out of a very difficult league at the first time of asking. It would have been much better to spend this year as a transitional year pottering about in the middle of the premier league looking to push on in future.

[ancient hibee]

Always thought Doyle would get bags of goals down south.When he played with us he took up really good positions but of course Griffiths rarely gave him the ball.His second goal against Motherwell down the hill was first class.

[KeithTheHibby]

When you look at who replaced Doyle i.e. Collins and Vine you have to say it was a shocking decision to not offer him a decent deal. Fenlon must have known LG was leaving so to let your strike force leave was nothing short of mental.
Doyle was raw however he had talent and was often overshadowed by LG.

Good luck to him.

[Bostonhibby]

Good player, good attitude, bags of potential - went somewhere else to develop it and will push on again I feel, bit like Clayton Donaldson.

Hibs pre Stubbs never has felt like a place with a strategy for developing players and using them in the best way. Too many knee jerk decisions and awful short term journeymen brought in by out of their depth managers.

[blackpoolhibs]

When you look at who replaced Doyle i.e. Collins and Vine you have to say it was a shocking decision to not offer him a decent deal. Fenlon must have known LG was leaving so to let your strike force leave was nothing short of mental.
Doyle was raw however he had talent and was often overshadowed by LG.

Good luck to him.
Yip when you release a player you have to replace him with better. When you sell someone you know that is more difficult.

[easty]

When you look at who replaced Doyle i.e. Collins and Vine you have to say it was a shocking decision to not offer him a decent deal. Fenlon must have known LG was leaving so to let your strike force leave was nothing short of mental.
Doyle was raw however he had talent and was often overshadowed by LG.

Good luck to him.

Aye in hindsight thats easy to say. Though, given that we went out and bought Collins, I think its safe to say we thought we were bringing in better than Doyle.

[GreenCastle]

I liked him - wasn't Messi but better than some of the poor strikers we have had over the years.

He always gave his all - scored a reasonable amount of goals and also scored an important goal against Falkirk in that semi.

Good to see him doing well as seemed a good guy.

[jacomo]

Aye in hindsight thats easy to say. Though, given that we went out and bought Collins, I think its safe to say we thought we were bringing in better than Doyle.

Putting together a football team is still an inexact science and every club has made similar mistakes.

The worry at Hibs is the sheer number of mistakes we've made in recent years.

[judas]

Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

:aok:

He wasn't Hibs class.

[Bostonhibby]

He wasn't Hibs class.

:agree: I'm glad we got rid of him, and replaced him with the other guys, you know, whatshisname, and the otherone, who have either gone as well or we haven't been able to get rid of them but they haven't scored as many goals - recent Hibs class sadly.

[Colr]

Eoin scored a hat-trick tonight, as he did at the weekend. He has scored 10 goals in 7 league games.

Always liked him as a player and delighted to see him banging them in at a decent level. His team currently sat 4th in League One. Was a bit disappointed when he left us but unsure of the reasons why.

:aok:

How many times has this happened with ex Hibs players? Remember Willie Pettigrew?

[Thecat23]

The deal Hibs offered him was that bad that the players originally thought he was taking the piss. When they found out he wasn't a few started to worry about their own contracts that were up for renewal.

For the record I didn't rate the guy, sometimes players score in different leagues I just don't think the guy could cut it at SPL level. Maybe he's matured a bit and will end up doing alright.

[Aldo]

The deal Hibs offered him was that bad that the players originally thought he was taking the piss. When they found out he wasn't a few started to worry about their own contracts that were up for renewal. For the record I didn't rate the guy, sometimes players score in different leagues I just don't think the guy could cut it at SPL level. Maybe he's matured a bit and will end up doing alright.

I think Eoin played second fiddle to Leigh and regardless of what he did was sometimes seen as not good enough.

FWIW I liked him, had a good attitude and work ethic. Yeah maybe he has matured. I watch a lot if the football league and he appears to be part of a team that play to each others strengths.

Good luck to the lad.

[Hamish]

The deal Hibs offered him was that bad that the players originally thought he was taking the piss. When they found out he wasn't a few started to worry about their own contracts that were up for renewal.

For the record I didn't rate the guy, sometimes players score in different leagues I just don't think the guy could cut it at SPL level. Maybe he's matured a bit and will end up doing alright.

Didn't I read on here that one of our former assistant managers thought he was a pub team player?

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

The deal Hibs offered him was that bad that the players originally thought he was taking the piss. When they found out he wasn't a few started to worry about their own contracts that were up for renewal.

For the record I didn't rate the guy, sometimes players score in different leagues I just don't think the guy could cut it at SPL level. Maybe he's matured a bit and will end up doing alright.

He could have earned the same working in retail almost. That's what I remember hearing anyway

[Thecat23]

He could have earned the same working in retail almost. That's what I remember hearing anyway

Prob more in retail that's how low the offer was.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

Didn't I read on here that one of our former assistant managers thought he was a pub team player?

Was that our assistant that the players called the taxi driver or our assistant that should have been a pub team manager(Billy Broon)?

[Hamish]

Was that our assistant that the players called the taxi driver or our assistant that should have been a pub team manager(Billy Broon)?

BB.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

BB.

Cheers. Admittedly Billy Broon wouldn't know a good player if one jumped out and slapped in his angry wee coupon

[McKenzie]

Just scored for Chesterfield

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Need him to get another trick, got C'field to win!!

[GreenArmyyy!]

Incredible.

[GreenArmyyy!]

Always liked Doyle, will remember him for the absolutely screamer he scored at Pittodrie and the goal against Falkirk, never celebrated a goal as much as that in my life!

[Bostonhibby]

There must be a good chance he will score more goals himself than the entire Hibs team do this season.

[hibeemikey21]

Scored another 2 today. 8 goals in his last 3 games.

[Jim44]

I thought Doyle was a ray of sunshine when he was with us. I had the p!ss ripped out of me when I used to talk him up and it's no consolation to be proved right. He should never have been allowed to leave ER.