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Hibs7
30-08-2014, 06:49 AM
This should be posted on the Hibs dressing room


http://m.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/el-hassnaoui-league-between-rangers-hearts-1-3525693

SlickShoes
30-08-2014, 06:59 AM
Most folk would agree with this if you posted it before the griffiths hysteria, as it stands we are still short on players and have fallen behind early doors, we must win the next 4 games.

Mr White
30-08-2014, 07:07 AM
They've started well no doubt but it's a marathon not a sprint and when they drop a few points in games they expect to walk it will be interesting to see how they react. This boy could have been signed solely on the basis of being an arrogant ****er by the look of that article. A perfect fit for the merricks.

Steve20
30-08-2014, 07:19 AM
It's pretty much right. We've lost 2 of our first 3 games and are struggling to be honest.

We aren't going to win this league.

Septimus
30-08-2014, 07:20 AM
Irrespective of how far ahead Hearts or Rangers are at the end of the season the clubs in third or fourth position are still in with a chance of promotion. We will be in the top four if not the top two so there is no need to panic. The main priority is to get someone in who can convert some of these chances that we are creating.

Libby Hibby
30-08-2014, 07:29 AM
It's pretty much right. We've lost 2 of our first 3 games and are struggling to be honest.

We aren't going to win this league.

Agree, lost against Falkirk and Them who both at start of season were considered our challenges for top places, throw in to the mix THE Rangers result and we have effectively been defeated by our 3 main rivals...however in none of those games have we been a soft touch, embarrassed by our overall performance of has the style/brand of football been questioned.

A few quality players and a signing to unite fans would be a right step to pushing the new views of our management and club.

SanFranHibs
30-08-2014, 07:55 AM
I happened to say on the Griffiths thread (I believe we are about to be networked as the Griffiths Channel) that Rangers and Hearts are in a 2 horse race....to be the most odious and detestable clubs in Scotland! And I don't think anyone is about to catch them.

allezsauzee
30-08-2014, 07:56 AM
We lost at the PBS because we missed our penalty and they scored theirs. We have a dismal record there so I wouldn't judge our ability to win this league on that result. We had plenty chances to beat Falkirk and on most days would take at least 2 of them. Rangers won't win the league unless they get rid of McCoist because he is a clown. Even the huns know that. My bigger concern about Hibs is whether Stubbs style of football will win games away to Cowdenbeath in the middle of winter on a bumpy pitch. Will he have a plan B for those conditions? I'm certainly not giving up on us on the back of 2 defeats against the stronger teams in league that we could easily have won if we had taken some very good chances.

malagahibby
30-08-2014, 07:59 AM
With 33 games to go I find it amazing that people are saying we can't win it .
Loads of twists and turns and if we win our Derbys we will win the league .
It's who finishes the strongest not who starts wins this league .

lord bunberry
30-08-2014, 08:04 AM
Let's see who we've got in on Tuesday before we start making predictions.

s.a.m
30-08-2014, 08:18 AM
With 33 games to go I find it amazing that people are saying we can't win it .
Loads of twists and turns and if we win our Derbys we will win the league .
It's who finishes the strongest not who starts wins this league .

Quite. It's still August and there's a long way to go; predictions are pointless. Right at this moment we're not in a good place, in large part due to the catastrophic end to last season and the upheaval that followed, whereas our main rivals have been planning their assault on the championship for ages. However, every side (including ourselves, obviously) in this league is only a few injuries and suspensions away from a potential crisis.

Most of us on here will be old enough to remember seasons with an excellent start, followed by a shocking run and an end of season struggle. And we've all heard (and mocked) pundits making ludicrous claims based on a couple of games. Personally, I'm going to try to enjoy the football, give the team / management team / Leeann Dempster time to settle in, and pencil in panic :panic: for the spring. Stress reduction strategy is the sensible way forward.:aok:

Bostonhibby
30-08-2014, 08:27 AM
In the Scotlands Shame Handicap I'd say the new boys are a bit ahead of their mutant twin. They certainly bumped their creditors of a lot more money but its an interesting one since the yam arguably committed the most odious scams over the poppy money and the Macraes money that appeared to have been resting in their account. Neither have any conscience, maybe the yam meant they are 2 halves of the same pantomime horse?

SanFranHibs
30-08-2014, 08:41 AM
In the Scotlands Shame Handicap I'd say the new boys are a bit ahead of their mutant twin. They certainly bumped their creditors of a lot more money but its an interesting one since the yam arguably committed the most odious scams over the poppy money and the Macraes money that appeared to have been resting in their account. Neither have any conscience, maybe the yam meant they are 2 halves of the same pantomime horse?

Pity for the horse they are both the 'rear ends' !

Keith_M
30-08-2014, 08:50 AM
Given the start to the season, I think it's fair comment.

It's up to Hibs to prove them wrong.

Moulin Yarns
30-08-2014, 08:51 AM
This on Twitter, not online yet.


Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_ (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_) 3m (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/status/505637254518546432)
Hearts striker Soufian El Hassnaoui claims #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) don't have the quality to win this year's Championship. See EN today. @edinburghpaper (https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper) #HMFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HMFC?src=hash)

Bostonhibby
30-08-2014, 08:59 AM
This on Twitter, not online yet.


Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_ (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_) 3m (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/status/505637254518546432)
Hearts striker Soufian El Hassnaoui claims #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) don't have the quality to win this year's Championship. See EN today. @edinburghpaper (https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper) #HMFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HMFC?src=hash)

Two twats with very little knowledge of Scottish football, one is sadly paid to know about it, the other is here simply because he is paid, or is hoping to be.

Typical yam arrogance, similar to the suggestion they would be in the top 6 by xmas last season.

Forza Fred
30-08-2014, 09:05 AM
Two twats with very little knowledge of Scottish football, one is sadly paid to know about it, the other is here simply because he is paid, or is hoping to be.

Typical yam arrogance, similar to the suggestion they would be in the top 6 by xmas last season.

It may well be Yam arrogance, but unfortunately I think it is likely.

Gordy M
30-08-2014, 09:06 AM
oh so thats how it works, 3/4 games in and thats it decided!? Well in that case can i be first to congratulate big yogi and ict for winning the spl. Beat their main rivals in celtic, so thats them written off, and now just need to see off hamilton and its theirs.:rolleyes: Cmon guys, we, the fans at least, need to have a bit of fight about us. No way im conceding anything to those inbreds until its impossible to do otherwise!!!!

Bostonhibby
30-08-2014, 09:09 AM
It may well be Yam arrogance, but unfortunately I think it is likely.

:agree: Indeed, but they can't help themselves, its what fed the Romanov deception.

Someone somewhere on here has a signature saying Class doesn't show on a maroon jersey.

WeeRussell
30-08-2014, 09:11 AM
This the same "EL Hass" that hasn't kicked a ball for them yet?... I'll wait and see what quality he brings then - hopefully it is of the same level as Mr Ozturk who Hearts fans all seem convinced is a player.:aok:

Hibbyradge
30-08-2014, 09:25 AM
Anyone who makes predictions based on early season form is a friend of the bookies.

Borderhibbie76
30-08-2014, 09:27 AM
It may well be Yam arrogance, but unfortunately I think it is likely.
Get a grip man FFS.. we have only played 3 league games....there are plenty twists n turns to come...we dont even kno what the squad will look like on Tuesday yet?? I hope the players have a bit more fight than u or we really are donald ducked!!

Hibbyradge
30-08-2014, 09:31 AM
This on Twitter, not online yet.


Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_ (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_) 3m (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/status/505637254518546432)
Hearts striker Soufian El Hassnaoui claims #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) don't have the quality to win this year's Championship. See EN today. @edinburghpaper (https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper) #HMFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HMFC?src=hash)

Sensationalist reporting no doubt.

It was probably the guy's honest assessment in amongst many other commitments but tweeted on its own, it makes a headline.

IFONLY
30-08-2014, 09:33 AM
I happened to say on the Griffiths thread (I believe we are about to be networked as the Griffiths Channel) that Rangers and Hearts are in a 2 horse race....to be the most odious and detestable clubs in Scotland! And I don't think anyone is about to catch them.

In the league or as the most odious and detestable ??

Pray4Marc
30-08-2014, 09:34 AM
Forever deluded. There form will dip, injuries, and suspensions. I've layed Hearts for a decent wager this afternoon. #ForeverDeluded

HappyHibby93
30-08-2014, 09:35 AM
The Hearts seem to be running away with the idea that they are unbeatable. Remember we are 3 games in. There is a lot a football to be played, and you never know, we might just add another player or two... Super Leigh?


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Thecat23
30-08-2014, 09:35 AM
As both squads stand Hearts will finish first or second. If we add a couple before the window closes Leigh being one then that really could make a huge difference. I still think Hibs will win both their home games against Hearts, and Hearts will win their home games against us.

GreenLake
30-08-2014, 09:40 AM
This on Twitter, not online yet.


Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_ (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_) 3m (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/status/505637254518546432)
Hearts striker Soufian El Hassnaoui claims #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) don't have the quality to win this year's Championship. See EN today. @edinburghpaper (https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper) #HMFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HMFC?src=hash)

Soupy El Hasn't-a-clue-i

Hibeesmad
30-08-2014, 09:41 AM
This on Twitter, not online yet.


Barry Anderson ‏@BarryAnderson_ (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_) 3m (https://twitter.com/BarryAnderson_/status/505637254518546432)


Hearts striker Soufian El Hassnaoui claims #Hibs (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hibs?src=hash) don't have the quality to win this year's Championship. See EN today. @edinburghpaper (https://twitter.com/edinburghpaper) #HMFC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HMFC?src=hash)

Does he even know who hibs are?

Moulin Yarns
30-08-2014, 09:44 AM
Sensationalist reporting no doubt.

It was probably the guy's honest assessment in amongst many other commitments but tweeted on its own, it makes a headline.

Well deduced Watson.


Now online

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-working-to-get-el-hassnaoui-fit-for-action-1-3525604

Nowhere does he say we don't have the quality of players to win.

Although dismissive of Hibs’ title chances*, El Hassnaoui admitted it was their presence and that of Rangers in the Scottish Championship which persuaded him to join Hearts “Rangers and Hibs being in the league was a big attraction for me because you have three big clubs. That’s not normal, but it’s good for us. I’m just focused on Hearts. First I have to do well here and then we can talk about something else.”

* This is the only mention, not a quote in sight.

emerald green
30-08-2014, 10:41 AM
El Hassnaoui is quoted in today's Scotsman. This is what (part of) the article says:

"I think we and Rangers have to do it", the 24 year old from the Netherlands said. "One of us - and we will be the one. I don't think Hibs have enough quality to do it. In the first half against us they played well, but I think we have more quality than Hibs and so do Rangers. So I think it will be between us".

Who is this guy? I've never heard of him until now. What has he won? When did he become an expert on Scottish Football?

I'm glad he's mouthing off to the papers. Let's see what happens.

Phil D. Rolls
30-08-2014, 10:59 AM
If Sevco get docked 25 points - looking increasingly likely - they won't be at the races.

TowerHibs
30-08-2014, 11:05 AM
Long way to go and think Hibs will come good. I for 1 think it's fair enough Hearts and their players think they are going to stroll the league.

One look on here would have half the support backing us for promotion and the other half having us toiling and some even thinking we will struggle to stay up.

whiskyhibby
30-08-2014, 11:06 AM
Happy that he feels that way, it will be great to see Hibs wipe that smug grin off him at the end of the season

Bronson
30-08-2014, 11:13 AM
Who is he?:faf:

Islington Hibs
30-08-2014, 11:16 AM
Typical hearts arrogance. Pride comes before a fall and al that

Pinkie
30-08-2014, 11:36 AM
After three games, I think he's being a bit premature. The early signs are good for them and they look stronger than us but I think I'll reserve judgement until we are 12-15 games into the season before deciding how many horses are in the race.

As things stand, I would accept that they are likely to finish above us. They are better prepared, with their squad having been assembled early (at no little expense - I think there is more money sloshing around Tynecastle than Budge has ever let on). Our squad is still being assembled, we're still a bit leaky at the back and still not showing a clinical edge up front but I think that will improve.

However, so far (IMO), Stubbs has been true to his word in saying that additions will be quality, improving our pool, not simply filling shirts. We're Deadline day will probably have a significant say in how much stronger we will become.

One further point - in recent years our Gorgie chums have a habit of getting themselves up for big games but being less effective against lesser opposition. I'll be interested to see how long they can maintain their current swagger.

Like I say, very early days, and the signs are good for them so far, but this season has a long long way to go.

SanFranHibs
30-08-2014, 11:50 AM
After three games, I think he's being a bit premature. The early signs are good for them and they look stronger than us but I think I'll reserve judgement until we are 12-15 games into the season before deciding how many horses are in the race.

As things stand, I would accept that they are likely to finish above us. They are better prepared, with their squad having been assembled early (at no little expense - I think there is more money sloshing around Tynecastle than Budge has ever let on). Our squad is still being assembled, we're still a bit leaky at the back and still not showing a clinical edge up front but I think that will improve.

However, so far (IMO), Stubbs has been true to his word in saying that additions will be quality, improving our pool, not simply filling shirts. We're Deadline day will probably have a significant say in how much stronger we will become.

One further point - in recent years our Gorgie chums have a habit of getting themselves up for big games but being less effective against lesser opposition. I'll be interested to see how long they can maintain their current swagger.

Like I say, very early days, and the signs are good for them so far, but this season has a long long way to go.

Most of them were !

kaimendhibs
30-08-2014, 11:50 AM
Let's see who we've got in on Tuesday before we start making predictions.

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Nevi_SOL
30-08-2014, 12:01 PM
Who is he?

#FromTheCapital
30-08-2014, 12:10 PM
Yet another example of hearts teaching their players to hate hibs as soon as they join. I'm astonished he's had so much time to study our games and form this opinion...
Let's do our talking on the pitch for once hibs and wipe the smug grin off his ugly pus.

Pretty Boy
30-08-2014, 12:22 PM
Who is he?:faf:

This was my 1st reaction as well.

Is he injured? Is he another 'superstar' like Sow?

Dashing Bob S
30-08-2014, 12:31 PM
I don't think either of the three are very good, but Rangers and Hearts are a bit further down the road than us in terms of team building. I still fancy us to be top three. Unless the Huns get a points deduction, they will win the league, due to the decisions going their way in games. I've always fancied us to start slow and sneak third, then do the Jambos in the play-offs. I'd quite like that, especially in Hearts were 20 points ahead of us. Oh, how they would moan.

Franck Stanton
30-08-2014, 02:10 PM
Boy is quite right, the league is a two horse race, Hibs and Servco. The rest are fighting for 3rd.

steakbake
30-08-2014, 02:15 PM
Typical hearts arrogance. Pride comes before a fall and al that

Sadly, they've not fallen yet.

chrisski33
30-08-2014, 03:30 PM
as we cant seem to beat alloa and falkirk where they seem to be hes right!
i dont belive hibs will come good but i hope im wrong

Coco Bryce
30-08-2014, 03:31 PM
Anyone who thinks Hibs will be anywhere near 1st or 2nd are mad.

Judas Iscariot
30-08-2014, 03:33 PM
He's not wrong

Keith_M
30-08-2014, 03:34 PM
Hearts are scoring for fun and have a 100% league record so far. We're struggling away to a part-time team.

How come people are criticising the guy for stating the obvious?

Pete
30-08-2014, 03:40 PM
We've played four games FFS.

Bobo
30-08-2014, 03:46 PM
They at least can back up their claim with some substance by beating teams comfortably, scoring goals, keeping clean sheets and winning 3 points.

On the other hand we have a bunch of soft centred losers who pose no threat to anyone, part time or otherwise, and we can't keep a clean sheet to save ourselves.

We are a terrible football team and have been for far too long, the damage done is deep rooted and we'll be well off the pace for the foreseeable future until we've got rid of all the spineless losers that got us relegated last term.

There's absolutely no desire or belief at Easter Road and we are a fechin shambles!!

Keith_M
30-08-2014, 03:46 PM
We've played four games FFS.


Have you seen the results & goals scored in those games?

p.s. Now we're losing to part-time Alloa



Position
Team
Played
Goal Difference
Points







No Movement 1
Hearts (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/heart-of-midlothian)
4
9
12


Moving up 2
Rangers (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/rangers)
4
6
9


Moving up 3
Raith Rovers (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/raith-rovers)
4
2
9


Moving down 4
Queen of Sth (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/queen-of-the-south)
4
4
7


Moving up 5
Alloa (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/alloa-athletic)
4
1
6


Moving down 6
Livingston (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/livingston)
4
0
5


Moving down 7
Falkirk (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/falkirk)
4
-4
4


No Movement 8
Hibernian (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/hibernian)
4
-2
3


No Movement 9
Cowdenbeath (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/cowdenbeath)
4
-7
1


No Movement 10
Dumbarton (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/dumbarton)
4
-9
1

Deansy
30-08-2014, 03:49 PM
Yet another example of hearts teaching their players to hate hibs as soon as they join. I'm astonished he's had so much time to study our games and form this opinion...
Let's do our talking on the pitch for once hibs and wipe the smug grin off his ugly pus.

Agreed - confirmation that Hibs feature as a large part (if not ALL) of their 'Welcome' to new players !. Not even kicked a ball for them yet knows everything !

cleanyman
30-08-2014, 03:53 PM
I'd probably agree.

Highest Hibs will finish is 4th.

Judas Iscariot
30-08-2014, 03:53 PM
We've played four games FFS.

And lost 3

Take yer heid oot the sand, worse than the deluded pink mob

We're ****in awful

AFKA5814_Hibs
30-08-2014, 04:00 PM
Can't really argue with the guy tbh. Hibs are nowhere near good enough to be promoted from this league.

Lee Marvin
30-08-2014, 04:52 PM
This thread looks kinda silly now!

NOLA
30-08-2014, 04:56 PM
the unknown jambo is right.

Aldo
30-08-2014, 05:17 PM
If we get anywhere near the top 3 with the current squad I'd be very very surprised.

Ronniekirk
30-08-2014, 05:24 PM
If we get anywhere near the top 3 with the current squad I'd be very very surprised.
Looks very much like you aren't going to be in for a Surprise Aldo .I am gutted at this result on back of way things have been going but strangely not really surprised ,we seem to specialise in shooting ourselves in the foot :confused:

Aldo
30-08-2014, 05:31 PM
Looks very much like you aren't going to be in for a Surprise Aldo .I am gutted at this result on back of way things have been going but strangely not really surprised ,we seem to specialise in shooting ourselves in the foot :confused:

It's not even shooting ourselves in the foot Ronnie.

It's plain and clear we are still not up to the task which shows exactly how bad we have really fallen.

If Farid is out for any length of time and we don't get a replacement then middle table mediocracy is about the best we can expect.

yankyhibby
30-08-2014, 07:51 PM
Typical hearts arrogance. Pride comes before a fall and al that

Arrogance is not always a negative. It usually comes from demonstrating certain qualities and achieving positive results over a period of time.
Putting allegiances and emotions aside and focusing objectively: Is our team outfighting and outperforming the opposition and ruthlessly putting the ball in the back of the net as often as Hearts are currently doing?
I for one also do not think that Hearts will fall - not with Levein as overlord. He knows how to set up a hard-to-beat team -even a team littered with average players, which is not the case with their current side. It is littered with experience, grit, quality and youthful vigour.
Alan Stubbs would love to see some of that Hearts arrogance in his own players, but, sadly, he does not. Instead, he talks of the legacy of last season and a losers mentality among some of his players. Negativity, unfortunately, is contagious. Our lot took a defeatist attitude into most games last season and, sadly, this is now spilling over into this season. He recognises it and likely sees it as his biggest challenge. Once we clear out the deadwood and losers and go for that final cull of all those tainted with relegation, then, and only then, might we start to see 11 fighters in the changing room with a collective arrogance borne of victory after victory.

Dalkeith Hibee
30-08-2014, 08:32 PM
We arent really doing much to disprove that theory are we

geordielad
30-08-2014, 10:57 PM
Arrogance is not always a negative. It usually comes from demonstrating certain qualities and achieving positive results over a period of time.
Putting allegiances and emotions aside and focusing objectively: Is our team outfighting and outperforming the opposition and ruthlessly putting the ball in the back of the net as often as Hearts are currently doing?
I for one also do not think that Hearts will fall - not with Levein as overlord. He knows how to set up a hard-to-beat team -even a team littered with average players, which is not the case with their current side. It is littered with experience, grit, quality and youthful vigour.
Alan Stubbs would love to see some of that Hearts arrogance in his own players, but, sadly, he does not. Instead, he talks of the legacy of last season and a losers mentality among some of his players. Negativity, unfortunately, is contagious. Our lot took a defeatist attitude into most games last season and, sadly, this is now spilling over into this season. He recognises it and likely sees it as his biggest challenge. Once we clear out the deadwood and losers and go for that final cull of all those tainted with relegation, then, and only then, might we start to see 11 fighters in the changing room with a collective arrogance borne of victory after victory.
About sums it up really!!!!

NAE NOOKIE
31-08-2014, 12:30 PM
Arrogance is not always a negative. It usually comes from demonstrating certain qualities and achieving positive results over a period of time.
Putting allegiances and emotions aside and focusing objectively: Is our team outfighting and outperforming the opposition and ruthlessly putting the ball in the back of the net as often as Hearts are currently doing?
I for one also do not think that Hearts will fall - not with Levein as overlord. He knows how to set up a hard-to-beat team -even a team littered with average players, which is not the case with their current side. It is littered with experience, grit, quality and youthful vigour.
Alan Stubbs would love to see some of that Hearts arrogance in his own players, but, sadly, he does not. Instead, he talks of the legacy of last season and a losers mentality among some of his players. Negativity, unfortunately, is contagious. Our lot took a defeatist attitude into most games last season and, sadly, this is now spilling over into this season. He recognises it and likely sees it as his biggest challenge. Once we clear out the deadwood and losers and go for that final cull of all those tainted with relegation, then, and only then, might we start to see 11 fighters in the changing room with a collective arrogance borne of victory after victory.

Bang on.

Up to this point what evidence have Hibs produced to show he might be wrong?

Our last hope of lifting the club and supporters is what we do in the last two days of the transfer window. There is a slim chance of LG and McFadden is still looking for a club. Can anybody see this board doing what is required to land either. I cant.

percy veer
31-08-2014, 12:38 PM
Yet another example of hearts teaching their players to hate hibs as soon as they join. I'm astonished he's had so much time to study our games and form this opinion...
Let's do our talking on the pitch for once hibs and wipe the smug grin off his ugly pus.


Mabey we we need to teach our players that instead of being shat scared every time we come up against them

Hibs7
31-08-2014, 01:13 PM
Still think it should be posted up In The home dressing room, to let this bunch of wasters see everybody knows how bad they are!!