Hearts 2 - 1 Hibernian (El Alagui) FT

[GoldenMeerkat]

That Sow reminded me a bit of John Fashanu, and that elbow pretty much confirmed it.

[Pretty Boy]

Stubbs has sold the jerseys on this one. His mistakes have cost us the game.

Your right but Robertson has to take responsibilty as well.

What he was doing in the build up to the goal I have no idea.

Goal El Alagui. Cracker.

[Hibtastic]

Bad result but I still think we will finish above that lot this season.

[Callum_62]

No Bravery, from the management or the players

Terrible that we were accepting 0-0

NO WAY would you see Hearts come to ER and settle in for a draw

HATE that attitude

Subs that could have changed a minging game SHOULD have been made - crazy by Stubbs

[Borderhibbie76]

that's made my decision about going to ER next week a helluva lot easier:rolleyes: no ta
Thats good "fans" like u we can well do without! !

[GoldenMeerkat]

Come on!

[One Day Soon]

We are not vastly different from last season. Our squad isn't big enough and it doesn't have enough quality. If you want to get out of a division with Ragners and Hearts in it and you are serious about it then you need an appropriate squad - which we don't have.

Not sure who to blame - Petrie, Dempster or Stubbs. Or all of them. Smaller squad and better quality? My ar5e.

If you miss a penalty in a derby (not even hitting the target), if your midfield folds and if you're not playing a lot of football then you are going to get beat.

I honestly don't think I have seen a single thing coming out of Hibs since Butcher was fired that shows any serious intent whatsoever to get back up at first time of asking - other than words of course whoch cost nowt.

In fact I'll go further, I think the unstated private intent is to get up at second or third time of asking using developed youth. That's probably why we have developed the coaching staff and got nowhere near bringing in what we need on the playing side.

[SlickShoes]

Good goal

[Beefster]

Peach by Farid.

[Forever_Green93]

C'mon

[blaikie]

Good goal! No chance of a 2nd

[SkintHibby]

Last years flops robertson and Craig lets us down yet again...get them both tae ###k Stubbs

That told me right away Stubbs was clueless!

[patch1875]

Hopefully Kennedy and Allen start next game.

[Hamish]

More guile and cutting edge needed.............and gutting again that they take the game - again!

But only 2 games in. Plenty time yet. And still rate Stubbs as the man to turn this around.

:agree: The problems that AS inherited aren't going to be changed in a matter of weeks. It will take him time. He's perhaps finding out about a lot of players this afternoon.

[BarneyK]

Sow off. Disgusting challenge.

People on here don't half talk crap though. We haven't been bad today. Robertson bottled it, nothing more nothing less. Beaten by a pot shot in the end, hearts still aren't a better side than us.

They are a better side at the moment. Not by much, granted. Did we even manage to get into a position for a pot shot? Let's not count Stanton's shot from about 40 yards out.

[cabbageandribs1875]

That's the spirit. Staying away will help no end.

Presumably you won't be whining like **** on here when we're pish from now on either?


do one :aok:

[Callum_62]

Goal - Farid

we are amazing

[BVB Hibs]

Brilliant goal. Last chance saloon

[PeeJay]

Nice goal for us ...

[GreenLake]

Great goal!!!!

[Hibs7]

Surely Allan is fit and the player from Everton ... Should have been on at half time to give us something different . Hearts changed players when they saw they weren't getting anywhere what did Hibs do .... Sweet FA .. Ok Stubbs might still be learning but not taking Robertson off at half time was a major mistake. !!

[Aldo]

Last years flops robertson and Craig lets us down yet again...get them both tae ###k Stubbs

I was Craig's biggest critic and yeah he missed the penalty and should be criticised accordingly but he's prob been not far off our best player in the last 2 games.

[Northernhibee]

That told me right away Stubbs was clueless!

I really hope we score a second now just to show up what you're posting.

[DBHibs]

Great goal! Time for another??

[SlickShoes]

I'm comparing the attitudes of the fans, not the clubs themselves

There's no comparison the situations are vastly different

[easty]

Same old pathetic defeat to an awful hearts team

Bore off Hibs, being so ***** and such walkovers is regally tiresome now

Correct mate. Doesn't seem to matter who our 11 are, they don't realise how important this game is, their bunch of ***** up their game.

[James.]

Hopefully Kennedy and Allen start next game.

They both look decent. Would like to see them on with Harris and Craig next week.

[Forever_Green93]

Thats it!!! Mow the hertz **** doon!!!

[Northernhibee]

Sow off. Disgusting challenge.

People on here don't half talk crap though. We haven't been bad today. Robertson bottled it, nothing more nothing less. Beaten by a pot shot in the end, hearts still aren't a better side than us.

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.

[Dave-O]

Is anyone surprised? I'm not, same midfield as got us relegated albeit even weaker without thommo, clear out my arse, new season same sh**.

[ionahibby]

It's going to be a long hard season! Let's hope we don't implode in the weeks coming because of this.

[Dan Sarf]

At least we accuse them of not caring any more

[hibee_girl]

Full time.

[Hibby70]

Time for Allan and Kennedy to start next week then

[GoldenMeerkat]

I was Craig's biggest critic and yeah he missed the penalty and should be criticised accordingly but he's prob been not far off our best player in the last 2 games.

Agreed, up until the penalty miss Craig was arguably our best player. Robertson however has become a real liability.

[Pretty Boy]

Was Craig red carded there as he went off?

[leither17]

What are craig and Lewis doing shoving folk about there pair of idiots

[SteveHFC]

FULL TIME: #Hearts 2 #Hibs 1. A set-back and lessons learned, but #Hibs will bounce back
:faf:

[StarMan10]

Ken it's gone to pot when wee Lewis is lost his head

[SlickShoes]

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.

Yep it's amazing seeing the team I love get beaten and play terribly.

You people are clueless, thinking that hibs somehow played well and that you are a big man because you don't see how crap we actually played. Great stuff.

If you aren't bothered by losing to hearts then you aren't a hibs supporter.

[Dobosz83]

Id been screaming for changes since the hour mark. Farid looked tired, Stanton was completely and utterly non existant and Robertson's every touch was a foul. Despite these obvious observations, no changes were made. There were options in the dugout, Cummings, Tudor-Jones (assuming he wants to maintain that shape and remove Robertson) and of course Allen & Kennedy.

Stubbs could have made changes. He chose not to and then Nicholson scores a Deek esc wonder goal. Cue idiocy and capitulation. Winds of change? Something a never change. All too predictable...

[Onceinawhile]

FULL TIME: #Hearts 2 #Hibs 1. A set-back and lessons learned, but #Hibs will bounce back
:faf:

Hibs twitter is cringeworthy.

[Callum_62]

What are craig and Lewis doing shoving folk about there pair of idiots

Lewis shouldve went down when Walker stuck the head on him

[Beefster]

do one :aok:

If only you'd take that rapier wit to Easter Road, we'd be much better off. Still, I'm sure New Look and Evans are looking forward to it next Saturday.

[HappyAsHellas]

Arguably, one of their greatest threats today was Robertson's conceding many needless fouls in threatening positions. Even at 2 - 0, the heads did not go down, which is a good step in the right direction. We are still a few weeks behind most other teams and I fancy us to improve strongly as this season wears on. Onward and upward people.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

FULL TIME: #Hearts 2 #Hibs 1. A set-back and lessons learned, but #Hibs will bounce back
:faf:

I'm sure they tweeted saying it was being played at a frantic pace and it was end to end stuff aswell. Been deleted.

[Pretty Boy]

Was Craig red carded as he went off? Someone said he was but never saw it myself.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

Robertson has cost us the game today, very clumsy all over the pitch!!

Hopefully Allen gets a look in, Kennedy also looks handy, either drop Stanton or find a place where he can fit better. Another sore Sunday for Hibs fans, the humiliation continues........

[SaulGoodman]

Hibs twitter is cringeworthy.

Why because they don't sick the boot in?

[Northernhibee]

Yep it's amazing seeing the team I love get beaten and play terribly.

You people are clueless, thinking that hibs somehow played well and that you are a big man because you don't see how crap we actually played. Great stuff.

If you aren't bothered by losing to hearts then you aren't a hibs supporter.

Calm it down keyboard warrior :rolleyes:

[matty_f]

That told me right away Stubbs was clueless!

Troll.

[Callum_62]

Can someone tell me how we were in any way "good?"

We were Fenlon like solid, toothless, defensive

How long did it take to have a shot on target....a decent shot on target wouldve been El Alaguis header he shouldve scored, that was about 85 minutes

Considering the 2nd half was a complete borefest - the game was there to be won, absolutely

We do nothing, they bring on a striker - and they win

Terrible management

[Judas Iscariot]

Who's posting the back slapping well done thread after this 2-1 defeat?

[Johnny_hfc]

Stevenson yet again the weaklink; all he offers is an engine. His lack of footballing quality really puts us under pressure at times and has to be replaced.

[sahib]

Yep it's amazing seeing the team I love get beaten and play terribly.

You people are clueless, thinking that hibs somehow played well and that you are a big man because you don't see how crap we actually played. Great stuff.

If you aren't bothered by losing to hearts then you aren't a hibs supporter.

Or maybe just not a hysterical loon.

[Speedy]

That boy Oxley needs to step up, it's one thing scoring against Livi but we need players that can get goals against Hearts.

Bloody bottler! :grr:

[cabbageandribs1875]

If only you'd take that rapier wit to Easter Road, we'd be much better off. Still, I'm sure New Look and Evans are looking forward to it next Saturday.



do one :aok:

[PeeJay]

Craig sent off in the tunnel apparently ...

[Thecat23]

Stevenson yet again the weaklink; all he offers is an engine. His lack of footballing quality really puts us under pressure at times and has to be replaced.

Behave, Stanton and Robbo were horrific! But yeah let's get the weekly Stevenson dig in!

[Speedy]

Can someone tell me how we were in any way "good?"

We were Fenlon like solid, toothless, defensive

How long did it take to have a shot on target....a decent shot on target wouldve been El Alaguis header he shouldve scored, that was about 85 minutes

Considering the 2nd half was a complete borefest - the game was there to be won, absolutely

We do nothing, they bring on a striker - and they win

Terrible management

I wouldn't say we were good but there are some positives there if you want to take any.

We were passing it around quite well for periods in the first half, Oxley had a very good save and El Alagui's goal was very good. Clearly a long way to go though.

[SlickShoes]

Or maybe just not a hysterical loon.

Nope, there's nothing wrong being annoyed by how bad we played, some people can't accept that happened.

In what world did we play ok?

[Sudds_1]

Craig sent off in the tunnel apparently ...

if that's true he really has let himself and the team down and should lose the armband,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[PeeJay]

if that's true he really has let himself and the team down and should lose the armband,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Didn't "see" it, but Hibs TV reporting there was something going on in the tunnel and Craig was red-carded, so he'll be missing against Falkirk....

[Borderhibbie76]

if that's true he really has let himself and the team down and should lose the armband,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
For me..empty him and robertson now..both under achieving wage thieves who have cost us time and again!! Id rather give 2 under 20s a game than these two...

[baggio70]

Id been screaming for changes since the hour mark. Farid looked tired, Stanton was completely and utterly non existant and Robertson's every touch was a foul. Despite these obvious observations, no changes were made. There were options in the dugout, Cummings, Tudor-Jones (assuming he wants to maintain that shape and remove Robertson) and of course Allen & Kennedy.

Stubbs could have made changes. He chose not to and then Nicholson scores a Deek esc wonder goal. Cue idiocy and capitulation. Winds of change? Something a never change. All too predictable...


Never a truer word said . Spot on mate

[Johnny_hfc]

Behave, Stanton and Robbo were horrific! But yeah let's get the weekly Stevenson dig in!

I agree Stanton and Robertson were poor, but Stevenson simply isn't good enough. For a full back he can't pass, cross and his positional awareness is poor. His lack of discipline today should have also resulted in a red card.

[Moon unit]

Craig sent off in the tunnel apparently ...
If true...should be allowed to move on,never a Hibs captain!

[hibee_girl]

They haven't mentioned a red card for Craig on sky.

[leither17]

I was Craig's biggest critic and yeah he missed the penalty and should be criticised accordingly but he's prob been not far off our best player in the last 2 games.

A defeat against rangers and a scrappy win against a hopeless livi team plus he was humpty today he is not up too it anymore the only good games I have seen him have are against hibs

[Scouse Hibee]

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.

And it was a ****** statement the last time you said it too, absolutely delighted when we lose, aye right so we are!!!!

[TRC]

We lost 2-1 to a team that is settled forget they are our rivals for a second and see the positive we were not out played. We didn't control the game but we held our own v a very decent hearts team, first goal is a fantastic strike that no keeper in the world would get too. I think we are going in the right direction and we looked liked we cared for the first time in many years. Stanton needs time on the side lines was nonexistent today. I do think we missed a trick with sow he looks decent. Wait till we play them at ER think we will get a couple against them the new guy at the back looked suspect and if I'm right I think Stubbs will be looking to exploit these short comings

[Callum_62]

Its not so much we lost thats annoying me

Its the fact we didn't try and win

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

That arse that done the Nazi salute has been arrested seemingly.

[Bostonhibby]

This team is a work in progress. I see positives in the play but hate the result as it stands.

The style of play is relatively new but I don't buy the work in progress argument as a way of squaring away yet another defeat. The yam had as many new players and changes etc to cope with as we did and we have been wheeling out the WIP defence for seasons now as managers come and go......today was about poor tactical decisions over subs, playing Robertson and certainly over leaving him on. The yam simply outmuscled us yet again. They always take their chances, we on the other hand.......

Hope I don't see Robertson in a Hibs jersey again.

Wee word for Nelson getting stuck in despite knowing he is going - well done son.El Alagui will do well but absolutely no other forward support just now.

[carnoustiehibee]

Same old same old. Stanton Harris handling don't have the heart to play Derbys.

Mentality is still the same,desire,composure and to stalk lack of ability to control games

[bobbyhibs1983]

Can someone tell me how we were in any way "good?"

We were Fenlon like solid, toothless, defensive

How long did it take to have a shot on target....a decent shot on target wouldve been El Alaguis header he shouldve scored, that was about 85 minutes

Considering the 2nd half was a complete borefest - the game was there to be won, absolutely

We do nothing, they bring on a striker - and they win

Terrible management


This IMO.i think we had a few half chances, a header or two but notihng too solid, I hate the motion of losing to them and people sorta saying thigns about learning things or it was close,

Im in agreement with you in regards the game there to be won, But thats a problem for us, in genral and more so against them, it seems, to me atleast that sometiems theres a lakc of like drive to beat them or a will to win.

[HibeeHendo]

Stevenson yet again the weaklink; all he offers is an engine. His lack of footballing quality really puts us under pressure at times and has to be replaced.

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.

[Bostonhibby]

And it was a ****** statement the last time you said it too, absolutely delighted when we lose, aye right so we are!!!!

:agree: If we can guarantee a defeat like this every week with Robertson playing the midfield general and one unsupported man up top I will get another season ticket. we needed 2 subs at half time and I'd say not doing it then cost us that game.

[PeeJay]

Not convinced by this team performance and any talk of a passing game is irrelevant when we fail to achieve anything worthwhile with the ball. El Alagui may get the odd goal, but - as with Collins - as a team we leave him to his own resources. Shocked by our lack of any punch in the final third - how are we supposed to win any games with no creativity up front? Stubbs really should have made changes when everyone could see they were needed - it's early days yet, but I've seen nothing to convince me that we will make it to even the playoffs...

[West hamBERNIAN]

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.
He put in some great tackles first half.

[HappyAsHellas]

I am sick wee got beat, but:

1 If your top striker (world beater by all accounts) has to be continually elbowing Nelson cause he can't beat him, then maybe he's not all that he's cracked up to be.
2 Your world class centre half hardly wins a header all day against a lone forward - he ain't too hot either.
3 I think our best team was the finishing one - Allen and Kennedy gave then something to think about immediately.
4 we can improve, they're not bad but probably at their zenith right now.
5 Let's save the bed wetting for around Christmas time - no improvement by then and I shall don the incontinence pants which haven't seen a run out since the Hamilton extra time/penalties.:agree:

[blackpoolhibs]

He put in some great tackles first half.

:agree:Stevenson along with the other defenders today played well, our problems were not defensive today at all.

[Pretty Boy]

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.

If in doubt blame Lewis.

[hibbeedavid]

We lost 2-1 to a team that is settled forget they are our rivals for a second and see the positive we were not out played. We didn't control the game but we held our own v a very decent hearts team, first goal is a fantastic strike that no keeper in the world would get too. I think we are going in the right direction and we looked liked we cared for the first time in many years. Stanton needs time on the side lines was nonexistent today. I do think we missed a trick with sow he looks decent. Wait till we play them at ER think we will get a couple against them the new guy at the back looked suspect and if I'm right I think Stubbs will be looking to exploit these short comings

They are a settled team? With 2 new midfielders, a debutant boy in goal and a new striker? Whereas we we have same midfield and defence from last season so are arguably even more 'settled' than them

I don't know why we build Hearts up to be a good team, they aren't, rank average, we are just p*ss poor with the spine of the team who got us relegated in farcical circumstances last season

Stubbs was very naive in his decisions today regarding lack of substitutions at the right time, he needs to learn fast and we need another striker to even have a chance this season

We still look soft and vulnerable especially in midfield


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[cabbageandribs1875]

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.


you said this to various posters just about every match day thread last season, do you seriously think ANY hibs fan is happy to see the team get beat just to prove a point ? seriously ?

[Turkish Green]

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.

Haters just got to hate, it would appear.

Midfield is is where the game was lost.

[Northernhibee]

you said this to various posters just about every match day thread last season, do you seriously think ANY hibs fan is happy to see the team get beat just to prove a point ? seriously ?

If Butcher and Malpas were still in charge and received this reaction I could totally understand it.

As it stands it's way, way OTT. But that's standard for .net nowadays so I'm unsure why I'm surprised.

[blackpoolhibs]

you said this to various posters just about every match day thread last season, do you seriously think ANY hibs fan is happy to see the team get beat just to prove a point ? seriously ?

I'd like to be the first to say he's trolling, it works both ways. :agree:

This place is full of happy folk tonight. :rolleyes:

[LaMotta]

Stevenson yet again the weaklink; all he offers is an engine. His lack of footballing quality really puts us under pressure at times and has to be replaced.

Total rubbish - Stevenson played well today.

[Deansy]

Lewis shouldve went down when Walker stuck the head on him

Spot-on!!. Yet that w*nker, Andy Walker, was adamant Lewis was the 'Bad-guy' in it and neither he or the other commentator mentioned the Jambo's head-butt !!??

[Septimus]

Hopefully there will be a management meeting at ER on Monday morning where AS can tell Petrie that we need to get the purse strings loosened and get some talent in. I have a horrible feeling that what we have is what we will get for this season and it just is not good enough.

Hearts are certainly not world beaters but we have got to improve if we hope to go up.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

We are not vastly different from last season. Our squad isn't big enough and it doesn't have enough quality. If you want to get out of a division with Ragners and Hearts in it and you are serious about it then you need an appropriate squad - which we don't have.

Not sure who to blame - Petrie, Dempster or Stubbs. Or all of them. Smaller squad and better quality? My ar5e.

If you miss a penalty in a derby (not even hitting the target), if your midfield folds and if you're not playing a lot of football then you are going to get beat.

I honestly don't think I have seen a single thing coming out of Hibs since Butcher was fired that shows any serious intent whatsoever to get back up at first time of asking - other than words of course whoch cost nowt.



In fact I'll go further, I think the unstated private intent is to get up at second or third time of asking using developed youth. That's probably why we have developed the coaching staff and got nowhere near bringing in what we need on the playing side.


:agree:

[Septimus]

Spot-on!!. Yet that w*nker, Andy Walker, was adamant Lewis was the 'Bad-guy' in it and neither he or the other commentator mentioned the Jambo's head-butt !!??

Walker is so anti Hibs that his observations are worthless.

[Ross89]

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.

Pathetic post.

Show me a post where a Hibs fan is "delighted" that we lost (yet again to hearts) ?????

I'm waiting.........

[K-Zazu]

Their was nothing between the sides , thought Robertson should have been subbed before he was sent off cos he was honking

[Ronniekirk]

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.
Agree no way was he the reason we didn't win

[Stuarty27]

That arse that done the Nazi salute has been arrested seemingly.

The boy plays for our very own feeder club Spartans!!

[Brightside]

Just back from the game. A few observations.

1. We aren't doing enough in the final third. We need to be driving at defenders and thats not happening.
2. The substitution was far far too late from Stubbs and he needs to admit that. Robertson was a man down in the 2nd half as he knew he was close to getting sent off...he pretty much let Nicholson past him whereas a player who wasn't booked would have taken him down.
3. Stanton was blowing out his backside in the 2nd half and again no idea why he wasn't taken off after 60 mins.
4. We were the better team on the day. I have no doubt about that , and if we had not missed the pen would have won comfortably.
5. Its time for Allan and Kennedy to be allowed a game.
6. We were far too deep in the 2nd half. Shuggy was up front on his own and Handling need to be pushed up higher to support him. Too big a gap between the forward player and the 3 behind him.
7. Hopefully people will now shut up about Sow as Shuggy is 100% better than him

I'm still confident we can win this league.

[HFC 0-7]

Their was nothing between the sides , thought Robertson should have been subbed before he was sent off cos he was honking

Difference between the sides today were the subs IMO. They made them, we didn't. Result was down to 10 men.

[Brightside]

:agree:Stevenson along with the other defenders today played well, our problems were not defensive today at all.

the 3 behind Shuggy let us down today. Not good enough and Stubbs was wrong not to change that.

[Coco Bryce]

The boy plays for our very own feeder club Spartans!!

Was it the goalie?

[easty]

Just back from the game. A few observations.

1. We aren't doing enough in the final third. We need to be driving at defenders and thats not happening.
2. The substitution was far far too late from Stubbs and he needs to admit that. Robertson was a man down in the 2nd half as he knew he was close to getting sent off...he pretty much let Nicholson past him whereas a player who wasn't booked would have taken him down.
3. Stanton was blowing out his backside in the 2nd half and again no idea why he wasn't taken off after 60 mins.
4. We were the better team on the day. I have no doubt about that , and if we had not missed the pen would have won comfortably.
5. Its time for Allan and Kennedy to be allowed a game.
6. We were far too deep in the 2nd half. Shuggy was up front on his own and Handling need to be pushed up higher to support him. Too big a gap between the forward player and the 3 behind him.
7. Hopefully people will now shut up about Sow as Shuggy is 100% better than him

I'm still confident we can win this league.

We weren't the better team today. I thought we were better up until the missed pen, but after that we struggled to put 3 passes together, sat back and did **** all.

[GreenLake]

Can someone tell me how we were in any way "good?"

We were Fenlon like solid, toothless, defensive

How long did it take to have a shot on target....a decent shot on target wouldve been El Alaguis header he shouldve scored, that was about 85 minutes

Considering the 2nd half was a complete borefest - the game was there to be won, absolutely

We do nothing, they bring on a striker - and they win

Terrible management

"Good" is a highly subjective term but nevertheless we looked good compared to a lot of games played last season.

Solid and defensive perhaps but toothless not because we scored one, missed a penalty, had Foster block a certain goal and had a great chance saved off the line. There was nothing Fenlon like about this team's performance except Robertson and the crap result.

Agreed, not subbing Robertson at 60 minutes was a blunder. Stubbs was going for a draw instead of going for a win and paid a big price.

[Judas Iscariot]

Did we make their 12 year old goalie make a save?

Wishy washy namby pamby Hibs as ever

[Brightside]

Did we make their 12 year old goalie make a save?

Wishy washy namby pamby Hibs as ever

Have the night off eh.

[GreenLake]

Didn't "see" it, but Hibs TV reporting there was something going on in the tunnel and Craig was red-carded, so he'll be missing against Falkirk....

Kennedy in for Craig, Allen in for Robertson, Booth in for Stevenson as he is certain to get a retrospective red card for the wee kick at the end (Walker won't get one for the stoat though).

[Judas Iscariot]

Have the night off eh.

Am I wrong like?

Sorry, the fans are at fault aren't they

[tamig]

Kennedy in for Craig, Allen in for Robertson, Booth in for Stevenson as he is certain to get a retrospective red card for the wee kick at the end (Walker won't get one for the stoat though).

Why Booth for Stevenson? I'd leave Stanton out. Kennedy should start wide left and I'm surprised he didn't today.

[Brightside]

There was nothing "wishy washy" about us. There was a lack of final ball from us....and if Robertson had been taken off earlier we wouldn't have lost the goals we did.

[GreenLake]

Did we make their 12 year old goalie make a save?

Wishy washy namby pamby Hibs as ever

Will you use succession of four adjectives when Hibs win? :wink:

[Ray_]

There was nothing "wishy washy" about us. There was a lack of final ball from us....and if Robertson had been taken off earlier we wouldn't have lost the goals we did.

All the bravery and passing that we have heard so much about went straight out of the window. We were totally second best, flat and couldn't string two passes together. The penalty effort summed up our performance and after it we looked happy to try and bore out a draw.

[hibee_girl]

Spot-on!!. Yet that w*nker, Andy Walker, was adamant Lewis was the 'Bad-guy' in it and neither he or the other commentator mentioned the Jambo's head-butt !!??

To be fair Neil McCann said that it Stevenson gets picked up on his tackle then their player should also be looked at for the head butt.

[blackpoolhibs]

There was nothing "wishy washy" about us. There was a lack of final ball from us....and if Robertson had been taken off earlier we wouldn't have lost the goals we did.

If

There is still no creativity, we don't open teams up or get behind them, there will be a lack of a final ball if we don't get the players or the ball in those positions where it can be delivered into the right area.

[Danderhall Hibs]

To be fair Neil McCann said that it Stevenson gets picked up on his tackle then their player should also be looked at for the head butt.

He did but it was hardly a head butt and it was an understandable reaction I what could be describe as a cowardly challenge.

[Ray_]

He did but it was hardly a head butt and it was an understandable reaction I what could be describe as a cowardly challenge.

Totally agree, two complete idiots, Craig & Stevenson, done hearts jobs and wasted the final two minutes of the game with their juvenile behaviour. Talk about having the brains of a rocking horse!

[Johnny_hfc]

How the **** was it Stevenson's fault that we lost today?

- Did Stevenson take Craig's Penalty? No.
- Did Stevenson sell the jersey against Nicholson? No.
- Did Stevenson give away a penalty? No.

Granted, Lewis wasn't great today but he wasn't the reason we were beaten.

Didn't say it was his fault we lost today, simply stating we need more quality at left back - there were times today he couldn't even pass a ball 2 yards.

[lucky]

Nicholson was the best player on the park but Robertson gave him acres for the goal. Out of the 5 goals we've lost this season Robertson has been at fault for 3 of them.

[trev the hat]

Midfield was always going to decide who won. With the piggery not the widest of pitches meant Harris & Stanton would be quickly closed down out wide. The two yam CM both have better engines than Robbo & Craig & it showed. I'd like to see Kennedy start & Cummings in for his better energy levels. Stubbs 1st mistake as boss not making changes when the game was winnable, I hate seeing subs brought on straight after losing a goal had he made the subs while on the front foot we'd have won Imo disappointed at a missed opportunity.

[JimBHibees]

Just back from the game. A few observations.

1. We aren't doing enough in the final third. We need to be driving at defenders and thats not happening.
2. The substitution was far far too late from Stubbs and he needs to admit that. Robertson was a man down in the 2nd half as he knew he was close to getting sent off...he pretty much let Nicholson past him whereas a player who wasn't booked would have taken him down.
3. Stanton was blowing out his backside in the 2nd half and again no idea why he wasn't taken off after 60 mins.
4. We were the better team on the day. I have no doubt about that , and if we had not missed the pen would have won comfortably.
5. Its time for Allan and Kennedy to be allowed a game.
6. We were far too deep in the 2nd half. Shuggy was up front on his own and Handling need to be pushed up higher to support him. Too big a gap between the forward player and the 3 behind him.
7. Hopefully people will now shut up about Sow as Shuggy is 100% better than him

I'm still confident we can win this league.

Disagree we were the better team. They had a goalie who should have been tested and our first effort on target was in about 85 mins. We didn't pass the ball and a few hid. Handling and Stanton should have been subbed at max 70 mins and looked poor in comparison to Holt and Nicholson. Time to give Allan and Kennedy a game. Real lack of composure in the middle with Craig and Robertson the worst offenders. Looked like we were happy when 0 0. A few weeks too early but we need more quality in. Goalie and defence did well.

[HibeeHendo]

If we played like we did against rangers we would've won.

[JimBHibees]

Totally agree, two complete idiots, Craig & Stevenson, done hearts jobs and wasted the final two minutes of the game with their juvenile behaviour. Talk about having the brains of a rocking horse!

Completely agree we must have the copyright on stupidity.

[buktapurple79]

Had a few, feeling reflective. But this Hibs team has the potential to do these smug gets, regularly milk 3 points from the lesser team and beat the Huns. Hearts are trying to play like arsenal - fail. Got lucky today.

[NAE NOOKIE]

I've said it before, some people deep down seem absolutely delighted on here when we lose.

Go on mate ........... give us a list of the Hibs supporting posters you think are delighted that we lost today against Hearts.

Folk are rightly justified in being utterly pissed off at yet again losing the derby .... this is a league where every point counts and where sticking it to your main rivals is more important than ever. Our record against the Yams is beyond appalling .... you will get a bad reaction after every derby loss until we do something to sort that.

The manager deserves criticism today for failing to make subs: He should have hooked Robertson not only because he was a red card waiting to happen, but because he was handing the initiative to the Yams by giving away far too many free kicks. It was clear after 70 minutes that he needed to bring on fresh legs as the Yams had taken the game over .... by the time he did it was far too late.

We are right to be annoyed ............ delighted that Hibs lost .......... geeza break http://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/no%20way.gif

[Northernhibee]

Go on mate ........... give us a list of the Hibs supporting posters you think are delighted that we lost today against Hearts.

Folk are rightly justified in being utterly pissed off at yet again losing the derby .... this is a league where every point counts and where sticking it to your main rivals is more important than ever. Our record against the Yams is beyond appalling .... you will get a bad reaction after every derby loss until we do something to sort that.

The manager deserves criticism today for failing to make subs: He should have hooked Robertson not only because he was a red card waiting to happen, but because he was handing the initiative to the Yams by giving away far too many free kicks. It was clear after 70 minutes that he needed to bring on fresh legs as the Yams had taken the game over .... by the time he did it was far too late.

We are right to be annoyed ............ delighted that Hibs lost .......... geeza break http://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/no%20way.gif

What I will say is that some people seem to be determined to get the first dig in at the scapegoat of choice far too often and it seems to be the same faces all too often too.

I dinnae like losing but can see a marked improvement on last season - we won't win every game, players will make the occasional mistake and we have a young manager who will make the odd mistake too. Bad day at the office today, we hurt a bit from it but we pick ourselves back up and get right behind the changes that Stubbsy and Dempster want to make because as far as I'm concerned we have a lot to be positive about for the season ahead.

The sheer amount of vitriol certain players seem to get on here is just silly.

[gegs70]

What I will say is that some people seem to be determined to get the first dig in at the scapegoat of choice far too often and it seems to be the same faces all too often too.

I dinnae like losing but can see a marked improvement on last season - we won't win every game, players will make the occasional mistake and we have a young manager who will make the odd mistake too. Bad day at the office today, we hurt a bit from it but we pick ourselves back up and get right behind the changes that Stubbsy and Dempster want to make because as far as I'm concerned we have a lot to be positive about for the season ahead.

The sheer amount of vitriol certain players seem to get on here is just silly.

I see an improvement but the midfield 4 really doesn't look great...I just see the same issues as last season not enough goals especially from midfield. I do like Allan and hopefully he will get am opportunity but it needs to be stronger!

[NAE NOOKIE]

What I will say is that some people seem to be determined to get the first dig in at the scapegoat of choice far too often and it seems to be the same faces all too often too.

I dinnae like losing but can see a marked improvement on last season - we won't win every game, players will make the occasional mistake and we have a young manager who will make the odd mistake too. Bad day at the office today, we hurt a bit from it but we pick ourselves back up and get right behind the changes that Stubbsy and Dempster want to make because as far as I'm concerned we have a lot to be positive about for the season ahead.

The sheer amount of vitriol certain players seem to get on here is just silly.

That's not the same as folk being happy Hibs lost. More or less the same players who screwed up against the Yams last season screwed up today and patience is at a premium ...... perhaps its time the players were given stick when we lose a derby. You might not have noticed but 70% of post derby match threads are the same:

The managers new
The players are lacking confidence
We have to give the players who have had professional coaching since they were 10 time to learn to pass the ball
We were unlucky.

Its all bull**** ...................... I for one am sick and tired of excuses. I am fed up of reasons, no matter how sound or logical as to why we have lost yet another game to Hearts. I couldn't give a rats arse about all that pish. The bottom line is we lose 3 out of every 4 games we play against these muppets that don't end in draws. Hell, even the ****ing draws are mostly at Easter Road.

It has to ****ing well stop !!!