whats the difference indeed

[ian omand]

The crime count for Tuesday night reads Hibs 4 bookings, 1 sending off
The rangers nil ( booking the goalie for time wasting does not count).
So we averaged a bookable offence every 24 minutes whilst The rangers
over 2 hours of a cuptie with McCulloch and Black in their team were able
in the modern game to turn in a flawless and faultless performance
crime wise.
Sorry but that is just impossible.
Already we have 5 players on the crime count ladder to their none
with our smaller squad this season the importance of having everybody
available will dictate where we end up in the league.
If you were to average Tuesdays referee display over a 36 game season then
it looks like there is only going to be one winner.
In recent years we have been on the receiving end of some horrendous
refereeing decisions and to my knowledge never have the custodians
of our club publicly voiced their anger.
What chance has Leeann, a mere employee, got in being allowed to condemn
injustices or Alan Stubbs to speak his mind at postmatch interviews when
Petrie himself has never done so?
Dont get me wrong I am not saying our bookings were not merited but can it really
be that we were so much more aggressive than them?
This season more than most the future of our club is at stake and we cannot
meekly allow what we have endured in the past to happen again.
Apologies for the rant people but i feel it is important that we stand up for ourselves.
It is no coincidence captain caveman publicly states they have been practising
with 10 men teams prior to their visit to ibrox and that is with Thomson in charge!
They appreciate how influential the officials will be in where they finish this season.

[Keith_M]

An interesting statistic is the number of bookings per foul. The number of fouls Der Hun are allowed to get away with without a booking, in comparison to the opposition, is outrageous.

[IanM]

The crime count for Tuesday night reads Hibs 4 bookings, 1 sending off
The rangers nil ( booking the goalie for time wasting does not count).
So we averaged a bookable offence every 24 minutes whilst The rangers
over 2 hours of a cuptie with McCulloch and Black in their team were able
in the modern game to turn in a flawless and faultless performance
crime wise.
Sorry but that is just impossible.
Already we have 5 players on the crime count ladder to their none
with our smaller squad this season the importance of having everybody
available will dictate where we end up in the league.
If you were to average Tuesdays referee display over a 36 game season then
it looks like there is only going to be one winner.
In recent years we have been on the receiving end of some horrendous
refereeing decisions and to my knowledge never have the custodians
of our club publicly voiced their anger.
What chance has Leeann, a mere employee, got in being allowed to condemn
injustices or Alan Stubbs to speak his mind at postmatch interviews when
Petrie himself has never done so?
Dont get me wrong I am not saying our bookings were not merited but can it really
be that we were so much more aggressive than them?
This season more than most the future of our club is at stake and we cannot
meekly allow what we have endured in the past to happen again.
Apologies for the rant people but i feel it is important that we stand up for ourselves.
It is no coincidence captain caveman publicly states they have been practising
with 10 men teams prior to their visit to ibrox and that is with Thomson in charge!
They appreciate how influential the officials will be in where they finish this season.

We should have had 4 bookings and no sending off. the deliberate hand ball booking (Forster?) was in my eyes worse than the red card. the red card was a booking..

bad day at the office for the offical, nothing really Hibs can do about that I'm afraid..

[R'Albin]

I agree that the referee was crap on Tuesday, but IIRC Black was booked.

[Green Cabbage 7]

We should have had 4 bookings and no sending off. the deliberate hand ball booking (Forster?) was in my eyes worse than the red card. the red card was a booking..

bad day at the office for the offical, nothing really Hibs can do about that I'm afraid..


Sorry, but bad day at the office, surely that would mean that both teams had a high card count not just one, as the ref would book everybody . Making choices I think

[The_Horde]

Rangers didn't have as many bookings because they couldn't get near us for most of the game. :greengrin

[HibbySpurs]

Rangers players dont get booked at Ibrox
Rangers players dont get sent off at Ibrox
Opposition teams dont get penalites at Ibrox

The world keeps spinning and nothing really changes.....

I would agree with the OP though that as we're up against the two "establishment" clubs in Scotland and with our smaller sqaud a few spurious yellow/red cards here and there could make all the difference to our challenge.

Rod wouldnt dare question officaldom as it would hurt "sporting integrity" and besides he quite likes that SFA blazer of his.

[IanM]

Sorry, but bad day at the office, surely that would mean that both teams had a high card count not just one, as the ref would book everybody . Making choices I think

I just meant I don't think hibs can do anything about an official making mistakes in a game. Happens to every team, apart from the OF!

[emerald green]

It seems to me the bigger the club you happen to be in any particular country, the more decisions from officials - referees and linesmen - go in your favour. They all know which side their bread is buttered, and what is and is not in their best interests.

It has always been like this in Scotland, particularly in favour of the Ibrox club. There's also I maintain a strong institutional bias in their favour in Scotland. The referee's favourites I've heard them called.

I've heard similar stuff about Manchester United in England and Real Madrid in Spain for example, although I would never include Der Hun in the same category as those clubs, football-wise. That would be ridiculous.

[Tom Hart RIP]

Did I hear that Robbie Neilson is in bother for telling press that he has been training by playing with 10 men as refs are prone to send off opposition players at Ibrox.

[ian omand]

I agree that the referee was crap on Tuesday, but IIRC Black was booked.


You are correct I misread the EEN stats, apologies.

[tamig]

It seems to me the bigger the club you happen to be in any particular country, the more decisions from officials - referees and linesmen - go in your favour. They all know which side their bread is buttered, and what is and is not in their best interests.

It has always been like this in Scotland, particularly in favour of the Ibrox club. There's also I maintain a strong institutional bias in their favour in Scotland. The referee's favourites I've heard them called.

I've heard similar stuff about Manchester United in England and Real Madrid in Spain for example, although I would never include Der Hun in the same category as those clubs, football-wise. That would be ridiculous.
Not sure that stacks up tbh. After all, the biggest club in the land have been fined several times over the past few seasons for their poor disciplinary record. So even the very biggest of big teams do get their fair share of yellow and red cards ;-)

[emerald green]

Not sure that stacks up tbh. After all, the biggest club in the land have been fined several times over the past few seasons for their poor disciplinary record. So even the very biggest of big teams do get their fair share of yellow and red cards ;-)

Agreed mate. I forgot about that "big team" with 400,000 fans (LOL). :greengrin

[Humo]

One went unpunished the other is a two footed red card offence...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuWc8VRCUAAa4ki.jpg

[Pete]

The crime count for Tuesday night reads Hibs 4 bookings, 1 sending off
The rangers nil ( booking the goalie for time wasting does not count).
So we averaged a bookable offence every 24 minutes whilst The rangers
over 2 hours of a cuptie with McCulloch and Black in their team were able
in the modern game to turn in a flawless and faultless performance
crime wise.
Sorry but that is just impossible.
Already we have 5 players on the crime count ladder to their none
with our smaller squad this season the importance of having everybody
available will dictate where we end up in the league.
If you were to average Tuesdays referee display over a 36 game season then
it looks like there is only going to be one winner.
In recent years we have been on the receiving end of some horrendous
refereeing decisions and to my knowledge never have the custodians
of our club publicly voiced their anger.
What chance has Leeann, a mere employee, got in being allowed to condemn
injustices or Alan Stubbs to speak his mind at postmatch interviews when
Petrie himself has never done so?
Dont get me wrong I am not saying our bookings were not merited but can it really
be that we were so much more aggressive than them?
This season more than most the future of our club is at stake and we cannot
meekly allow what we have endured in the past to happen again.
Apologies for the rant people but i feel it is important that we stand up for ourselves.
It is no coincidence captain caveman publicly states they have been practising
with 10 men teams prior to their visit to ibrox and that is with Thomson in charge!
They appreciate how influential the officials will be in where they finish this season.

Petrie has never spoke up about injustices.

Is that right?