Rolf Harris get 5 year sentence

[21.05.2016]

So thats Rolf Harris banged up for 5 years (with the chance of potential early release) for his sex crimes.

Disgusting old perv should be ashamed (although his lack of apology or remorse suggests he has very little). Another celebrity that thought he was above the law just because he was famous and used his fame to manipulative young, vulnerable kids.

Since the Saville scandel was revealed it seems to have been one celebrity after the other. Absolutely vile. But at least if there has been one positive thing from the Saville case is that more people have had the courage to step forward and feel that they will now be believed rather than just brushed aside because their claims were against a celebrity.

[Scouse Hibee]

So thats Rolf Harris banged up for 5 years (with the chance of potential early release) for his sex crimes.

Disgusting old perv should be ashamed (although his lack of apology or remorse suggests he has very little). Another celebrity that thought he was above the law just because he was famous and used his fame to manipulative young, vulnerable kids.

Since the Saville scandel was revealed it seems to have been one celebrity after the other. Absolutely vile. But at least if there has been one positive thing from the Saville case is that more people have had the courage to step forward and feel that they will now be believed rather than just brushed aside because their claims were against a celebrity.


Already up for review due to the leniency of the sentence.

[Jonnyboy]

Already up for review due to the leniency of the sentence.

:agree:

[Onceinawhile]

Too old to pay for his crimes properly. I'd wager he won't die in prison.

[HibbyAndy]

:Ummm:

[RyeSloan]

Too old to pay for his crimes properly. I'd wager he won't die in prison.

Yet his victims were too young to protect themselves....

[Bristolhibby]

Why can't the victims get some sort of financial recompense?

The ***** is worth millions!

J

[heretoday]

They were all at it in those days. Johnny Morris? I bet those chimps could tell a story.

[over the line]

And now they are looking at MP's from the 80s who were at it! What is wrong with these people!?!?! Disgusting!

[Hibrandenburg]

Sure they'll get round to football players at some point.

Oh wait a minute!

[Hibrandenburg]

Just listening to AC/DC whilst swinging the hoover around a bit. There's a line in "Love at first feel" sung by Bon Scott that sort of backs up some of the excuses these celebs have been spouting. "I never knew if you were legal tender but I spent you anyway". Was that really the attitude back then?

[Hibrandenburg]

Just listening to AC/DC whilst swinging the hoover around a bit. There's a line in "Love at first feel" sung by Bon Scott that sort of backs up some of the excuses these celebs have been spouting. "I never knew if you were legal tender but I spent you anyway". Was that really the attitude back then?

[cabbageandribs1875]

gravely ill with neck cancer apparently

Rolf Harris 'gravely ill' and receives '24-hour care as he battles neck cancer' - LBC (https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rolf-harris-gravely-ill-and-receives-24-hour-care-as-he-battles-neck-cancer/)





elsewhere i wonder who the untouchable is Man who exposed Jimmy Savile says there is another 'untouchable' paedophile | Metro News (https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/02/man-who-exposed-jimmy-savile-says-there-is-another-untouchable-paedophile-17487590/?ico=tag-post-strip_item_1_news)

A former detective who exposed Jimmy Savile as a prolific paedophile is now working to bring down another VIP.

‘There is one very significant person who I have done everything to try and get prosecuted because he is clearly a child sex offender.’


More alarmingly, Mr Williams-Thomas said that to date the Crown Prosecution Service has not prosecuted the person of interest.

he's right though, we will only find out who it is after he's dead :agree:

[hibsbollah]

Just listening to AC/DC whilst swinging the hoover around a bit. There's a line in "Love at first feel" sung by Bon Scott that sort of backs up some of the excuses these celebs have been spouting. "I never knew if you were legal tender but I spent you anyway". Was that really the attitude back then?

An old pal from years ago was talking about the old jannie that looked after the football pitches near the scheme he grew up was well known for grabbing the boys here and there, flashing etc. it was kind of common knowledge. This was the late 70s early 80s. The ‘dirty old man’ character was still considered a bit ‘funny’ at the time. Folk would make fun of him but somehow never reported him or thought it was a police matter. Very strange looking back at this attitude today.

[Hiber-nation]

An old pal from years ago was talking about the old jannie that looked after the football pitches near the scheme he grew up was well known for grabbing the boys here and there, flashing etc. it was kind of common knowledge. This was the late 70s early 80s. The ‘dirty old man’ character was still considered a bit ‘funny’ at the time. Folk would make fun of him but somehow never reported him or thought it was a police matter. Very strange looking back at this attitude today.

Yep it was really strange. When I played Sunday League back in the late 70s there was an assistant manager in the league who was well known to "like the young laddies". He was shunned by the other teams' coaches and players but that was about it.

[Pretty Boy]

An old pal from years ago was talking about the old jannie that looked after the football pitches near the scheme he grew up was well known for grabbing the boys here and there, flashing etc. it was kind of common knowledge. This was the late 70s early 80s. The ‘dirty old man’ character was still considered a bit ‘funny’ at the time. Folk would make fun of him but somehow never reported him or thought it was a police matter. Very strange looking back at this attitude today.

I always remember my granny telling me about a serial flasher who done the rounds when she was in her teens so that would have been the 40s. All the girls just laughed at him and he was well known for it among the local parents and referred to as the 'funny fellae' but nobody really considered it a Police matter or even particularly sinister. Obviously with the likes of Saville we have seen the local 'character' or eccentric sort can disguise nefarious behaviour by hiding in plain sight but it still seems bizarre to me. Someone willfully exposing themselves to teen girls now would quite rightly end up on the sex offenders register and quite probably in jail, I'd struggle to imagine anyone thinking of it as being just a bit amusing.

[Jim44]

Talking about changed perceptions and attitudes, I remember back in the late 50s, early 60s, there was a guy, nicknamed Paul the P***, who regularly frequented and flashed in Pilrig park. He was treated as a joke and generally ignored but how he got away with it, the mind boggles.

Ps. This might be the guy you talk about, PB.

[Pretty Boy]

Talking about changed perceptions and attitudes, I remember back in the late 50s, early 60s, there was a guy, nicknamed Paul the P***, who regularly frequented and flashed in Pilrig park. He was treated as a joke and generally ignored but how he got away with it, the mind boggles.

Ps. This might be the guy you talk about, PB.

Don't think it would be. My granny was Fountainbridge then Broomhouse growing up but sounds a similar type. It's just odd looking back at such things with hindsight.

[OldEast]

Talking about changed perceptions and attitudes, I remember back in the late 50s, early 60s, there was a guy, nicknamed Paul the P***, who regularly frequented and flashed in Pilrig park. He was treated as a joke and generally ignored but how he got away with it, the mind boggles.

Ps. This might be the guy you talk about, PB.

Never knew his name but he walked up to me wearing an old overcoat, with his dick out, and asked me if I wanted a ****. I told him to **** off and joined my mates for a game of football.

[speedy_gonzales]

gravely ill with neck cancer apparently

Rolf Harris 'gravely ill' and receives '24-hour care as he battles neck cancer' - LBC (https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/rolf-harris-gravely-ill-and-receives-24-hour-care-as-he-battles-neck-cancer/)





elsewhere i wonder who the untouchable is Man who exposed Jimmy Savile says there is another 'untouchable' paedophile | Metro News (https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/02/man-who-exposed-jimmy-savile-says-there-is-another-untouchable-paedophile-17487590/?ico=tag-post-strip_item_1_news)

A former detective who exposed Jimmy Savile as a prolific paedophile is now working to bring down another VIP.

‘There is one very significant person who I have done everything to try and get prosecuted because he is clearly a child sex offender.’


More alarmingly, Mr Williams-Thomas said that to date the Crown Prosecution Service has not prosecuted the person of interest.

he's right though, we will only find out who it is after he's dead :agree:

I won't name the person here as unsure of the legal consequence, but my Twitter feed lit up on Sunday morning about an unnamed British celebrity who was allegedly well known as someone that was involved in outright illegal activity in regards to women & children, not just some geezer up to no good. Many of the tweets mentioned that there has either been a news blackout because this guy is so treasured or that the police have investigated and agreed not to release names/details until his passing.
I don't know how true any of this is, but many of the replies all named the same person. When the Jimmy Saville news broke it didn't come as a complete surprise to many but this did to me and if I'm honest I felt a little bit sick.

[OldEast]

I won't name the person here as unsure of the legal consequence, but my Twitter feed lit up on Sunday morning about an unnamed British celebrity who was allegedly well known as someone that was involved in outright illegal activity in regards to women & children, not just some geezer up to no good. Many of the tweets mentioned that there has either been a news blackout because this guy is so treasured or that the police have investigated and agreed not to release names/details until his passing.
I don't know how true any of this is, but many of the replies all named the same person. When the Jimmy Saville news broke it didn't come as a complete surprise to many but this did to me and if I'm honest I felt a little bit sick.

If it was all over twitter you can say it here surely

[speedy_gonzales]

An old pal from years ago was talking about the old jannie that looked after the football pitches near the scheme he grew up was well known for grabbing the boys here and there, flashing etc. it was kind of common knowledge. This was the late 70s early 80s. The ‘dirty old man’ character was still considered a bit ‘funny’ at the time. Folk would make fun of him but somehow never reported him or thought it was a police matter. Very strange looking back at this attitude today.

In the late 80's I was in the boys brigade for a short while. Great fun for a young lad, drill nights on a Monday acting like pretendy soldiers, weekend football, Wednesday badminton with drum & pipe lessons for those that wanted.
The only downside was the "Captain". There was lots of chat about him being a wrong 'un but I never came across it until we went on our annual camp to Craggan. As part of the "rules" we weren't allowed out in the canoes until we had capsized it deliberately and demonstrated our ability to get out and back to shore. Being October, Loch Tay was freezing so we had to run in after our dook to warm up under hot showers, and there was the Captain, hanging about the shower area whilst all these young boys from 8 to 15 had to strip off.
Whether it was the rumours or actual experience, two women used to come along and act as chaperones for the younger boys but it obviously didn't work because I found out the guy was arrested and sentenced for child abuse in the late 90's.

[speedy_gonzales]

If it was all over twitter you can say it here surely

I'd rather not give our Admins the headache.

[CropleyWasGod]

If it was all over twitter you can say it here surely

You can't sue Twitter. You can sue Hibs.net 😀

[OldEast]

I'd rather not give our Admins the headache.

Fair enough. The word "untouchable" boils my piss though. What a ****ing country this is. Did we not learn from Saville. Get the **** outed and jailed. **** waiting until he dies. Always thought Cliff Richard was a wrong un. Plenty to choose from.

[J-C]

I'd rather not give our Admins the headache.

Put a link to the twitter post

[Pretty Boy]

Fair enough. The word "untouchable" boils my piss though. What a ****ing country this is. Did we not learn from Saville. Get the **** outed and jailed. **** waiting until he dies. Always thought Cliff Richard was a wrong un. Plenty to choose from.

I'm sure Cliff Richard was investigated at the time of the Yewtree enquiries. Iirc there was a lot of criticism of the Police for tipping of the media to the fact his house was to be raided and he won significant damages from the BBC for their coverage of it. No charges were brought and I think there was a bit of pointed criticism of one of his accusers by the authorities which is unusual.

I think he might just be a guy who is genuinely odd but harmless as opposed to using 'odd' as a disguise.

[Hibrandenburg]

I'm sure Cliff Richard was investigated at the time of the Yewtree enquiries. Iirc there was a lot of criticism of the Police for tipping of the media to the fact his house was to be raided and he won significant damages from the BBC for their coverage of it. No charges were brought and I think there was a bit of pointed criticism of one of his accusers by the authorities which is unusual.

I think he might just be a guy who is genuinely odd but harmless as opposed to using 'odd' as a disguise.

I've always thought that Cliff is the cliche Asexual, which is enough in the eyes of many to label him as a weirdo. Most of the predators out there are everyday likeable people, they have to be, otherwise we wouldn't let them near our kids.

[overdrive]

I won't name the person here as unsure of the legal consequence, but my Twitter feed lit up on Sunday morning about an unnamed British celebrity who was allegedly well known as someone that was involved in outright illegal activity in regards to women & children, not just some geezer up to no good. Many of the tweets mentioned that there has either been a news blackout because this guy is so treasured or that the police have investigated and agreed not to release names/details until his passing.
I don't know how true any of this is, but many of the replies all named the same person. When the Jimmy Saville news broke it didn't come as a complete surprise to many but this did to me and if I'm honest I felt a little bit sick.

Not sure if it is the same name you've read but I was quite surprised when I read the name I saw. Then you do a bit of reading and it seems he's had a few mates that have been done for such offences and he seems to openly defend them. Could just be a case of people accusing him because of the company he keeps.

Would these people really be so "untouchable" like MWT suggests in a post Savile world? Especially the name I saw, although he's seen as a bit of a "national treasure", I wouldn't have thought he'd have high-powered connections that would "protect him" like Savile did.

[overdrive]

I've always thought that Cliff is the cliche Asexual, which is enough in the eyes of many to label him as a weirdo. Most of the predators out there are everyday likeable people, they have to be, otherwise we wouldn't let them near our kids.

Very true, a guy at work got done for having 1000s of child pornographic images and videos on his home computer. I thought he was quite a likeable, mild-mannered guy until it came out that's what he had been up to.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I'd always assumed the "untouchable" aspect is as much to do with the dominos tumbling once a living "celebrity" is outed. I'm sure there are a number of very high profile pedos out there that will be sweating should one of then be outed

[The Modfather]

I'd always assumed the "untouchable" aspect is as much to do with the dominos tumbling once a living "celebrity" is outed. I'm sure there are a number of very high profile pedos out there that will be sweating should one of then be outed

Assuming they have the ability to sweat of course!

[Keith_M]

In the late 80's I was in the boys brigade for a short while. Great fun for a young lad, drill nights on a Monday acting like pretendy soldiers, weekend football, Wednesday badminton with drum & pipe lessons for those that wanted.
The only downside was the "Captain". There was lots of chat about him being a wrong 'un but I never came across it until we went on our annual camp to Craggan. As part of the "rules" we weren't allowed out in the canoes until we had capsized it deliberately and demonstrated our ability to get out and back to shore. Being October, Loch Tay was freezing so we had to run in after our dook to warm up under hot showers, and there was the Captain, hanging about the shower area whilst all these young boys from 8 to 15 had to strip off.
Whether it was the rumours or actual experience, two women used to come along and act as chaperones for the younger boys but it obviously didn't work because I found out the guy was arrested and sentenced for child abuse in the late 90's.



Add in taking photos of the kids in nothing but a pair of shorts and you've just described Thomas Hamilton, the ********* that murdered all those kids in Dunblane.



I'm not a religious person but sometimes I wish there actually WAS a hell.

[CyberSauzee]

Not sure if it is the same name you've read but I was quite surprised when I read the name I saw. Then you do a bit of reading and it seems he's had a few mates that have been done for such offences and he seems to openly defend them. Could just be a case of people accusing him because of the company he keeps.

Would these people really be so "untouchable" like MWT suggests in a post Savile world? Especially the name I saw, although he's seen as a bit of a "national treasure", I wouldn't have thought he'd have high-powered connections that would "protect him" like Savile did.

That's the same name I've read, it's cropped up now and again over the last few years.

With Savile and the sheer number of incidents reported wasn't there some system put in place to collate reports of this nature from different police forces? If that's the case then surely if there is a pattern emerging against anyone it should be investigated and not swept aside. But maybe it has been looked at and found to be a load of pish?

[Stairway 2 7]

If the name on twitter is true then uktv is knackered as Only fools and open all hours takes up half their schedule. Could be nonsense as rumours can grow arms and legs

[speedy_gonzales]

Not sure if it is the same name you've read but I was quite surprised when I read the name I saw. Then you do a bit of reading and it seems he's had a few mates that have been done for such offences and he seems to openly defend them. Could just be a case of people accusing him because of the company he keeps.

Would these people really be so "untouchable" like MWT suggests in a post Savile world? Especially the name I saw, although he's seen as a bit of a "national treasure", I wouldn't have thought he'd have high-powered connections that would "protect him" like Savile did.

More than likely, two mates who sexually assaulted two boys in his house whilst he was away working. Both men arrested and sentenced but the story was blocked from being reported.
Even if the "star" had nothing to do with it the sensationalism of the tale would surely have made the headlines...."Star of *** house used as sodomy dungeon".
One of the friends was a glider/hand-glider trainer who had given lessons to said personality which may or may not have been used in one of his works 🤔

[Keith_M]

I realise you're not allowed to say who it is but...


Does hearing his name make you think Christmas has arrived?

[Stairway 2 7]

I realise you're not allowed to say who it is but...


Does hearing his name make you think Christmas has arrived?

A touch of frost on the ground

[The Modfather]

If the name on twitter is true then uktv is knackered as Only fools and open all hours takes up half their schedule. Could be nonsense as rumours can grow arms and legs

I’d heard that rumour around the time of operation Yewtree. Hope it’s not true. Would certainly put my thread about separating art from the artist to the test as love Only Fools & Horses.

[Stairway 2 7]

I’d heard that rumour around the time of operation Yewtree. Hope it’s not true. Would certainly put my thread about separating art from the artist to the test as love Only Fools & Horses.

I know would be a gutter. It's easy to despise Savile artistically too as he was a prick, less so for someone you like. Could be rubbish mind

[stu in nottingham]

I realise you're not allowed to say who it is but...


Does hearing his name make you think Christmas has arrived?

Dasher, Prancer or Rudolph?

Say it ain't so.

[Pretty Boy]

The only good thing about the name being alluded to on this thread is that my initial reaction to 'national treasure' and 'feeling sick' at thought of it was that it could be David Attenborough.

That would be like finding out Santa, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy wasn't real all at once.

[G15 Hibs]

The only good thing about the name being alluded to on this thread is that my initial reaction to 'national treasure' and 'feeling sick' at thought of it was that it could be David Attenborough.

That would be like finding out Santa, the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy wasn't real all at once.

Oddly enough, that was what I though too. He's the only person I thought could potentially be described as "untouchable". Does the person being alluded to here have more power/friends in high places to stop anything coming out than, say, Rolf Harris did? A so-called National Treasure, of course, but how much sway does that have post-Yewtree?

[cabbageandribs1875]

More than likely, two mates who sexually assaulted two boys in his house whilst he was away working. Both men arrested and sentenced but the story was blocked from being reported.
Even if the "star" had nothing to do with it the sensationalism of the tale would surely have made the headlines...."Star of *** house used as sodomy dungeon".
One of the friends was a glider/hand-glider trainer who had given lessons to said personality which may or may not have been used in one of his works 🤔


i've been trying to look for a certain clue within the last several posts, twitter is probably my next search for confirmation, i coincidently have been watching a few episodes of the show(inc just last night) being alluded to in posts here :hmmm: i'm hoping i'll be miles off

[Hibrandenburg]

I realise you're not allowed to say who it is but...


Does hearing his name make you think Christmas has arrived?

Only fools and nonces know his identity if I'm picking up the hints correctly.

[stu in nottingham]

i've been trying to look for a certain clue within the last several posts, twitter is probably my next search for confirmation, i coincidently have been watching a few episodes of the show(inc just last night) being alluded to in posts here :hmmm: i'm hoping i'll be miles off

Type into Twitter the name that's in your head and you'll probably find some confirmation.

[Keith_M]

Only fools and nonces know his identity if I'm picking up the hints correctly.


Oh dear, that's worse than I thought.

[Hibrandenburg]

Oh dear, that's worse than I thought.

Nothing proven yet. Might just be a load of horse *****.

[Keith_M]

Nothing proven yet. Might just be a load of horse *****.


There is a 'controversial' interview he did on The One Show a couple of years ago. Can't post a link but do a search online with his name and The One Show and it's easy to find.

He may have just been joking but it did surprise me a bit.

[Hibernia&Alba]

If the name on twitter is true then uktv is knackered as Only fools and open all hours takes up half their schedule. Could be nonsense as rumours can grow arms and legs

I would really, really hope there is no truth in it. That would be horrific.

[Sir David Gray]

I would really, really hope there is no truth in it. That would be horrific.

:agree: I don't even want to begin to imagine that being true.

Only Fools and Horses is my all time favourite comedy and one of my favourite TV shows in general.

Obviously if it is true then I hope it all comes out but I really hope it isn't.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

:agree: I don't even want to begin to imagine that being true.

Only Fools and Horses is my all time favourite comedy and one of my favourite TV shows in general.

Obviously if it is true then I hope it all comes out but I really hope it isn't.

Pretty much where I am too.

[Hibrandenburg]

There is a 'controversial' interview he did on The One Show a couple of years ago. Can't post a link but do a search online with his name and The One Show and it's easy to find.

He may have just been joking but it did surprise me a bit.

I'll definitely have a look when I find the time, I'll feedback to you once I have, probably around February 2024.

[WhileTheChief..]

Reading the rumour online from the interview on The One Show. If what I'm reading is what is being to referred here, it's a million miles from what Rolf Harris did.

[WeeRussell]

Reading the rumour online from the interview on The One Show. If what I'm reading is what is being to referred here, it's a million miles from what Rolf Harris did.

Yeah I just seen the one show interview. Not really acceptable these days but clearly can’t possibly be what people are referring to in this thread.

I echo the sincere hope that it’s just horrible social media rumours if there is something worse being suggested.

[Stairway 2 7]

Yeah I just seen the one show interview. Not really acceptable these days but clearly can’t possibly be what people are referring to in this thread.

I echo the sincere hope that it’s just horrible social media rumours if there is something worse being suggested.

It's definitely not, but that doesn't mean it's true mind

[cabbageandribs1875]

Type into Twitter the name that's in your head and you'll probably find some confirmation.


did just that the now, unfortunately it is indeed the name i was thinking of, though i'm none the wiser what he's supposed to have done/said


now i'll need to look for this 'one show' thingy

[Keith_M]

Reading the rumour online from the interview on The One Show. If what I'm reading is what is being to referred here, it's a million miles from what Rolf Harris did.


I don't think it is, it's just something I found online... and for all I know, it could just be an attempt at humour that didn't come over very well.

Who knows.

[hibee]

Just seen an advert on ITV, star of Only Fools and Horses appearing on This Morning next Thursday to launch his new book.

I hope the rumours are false, if that’s the case it must be awful being mentioned in this way all over twitter.