Official Site: Season Ticket Update

[Charnley 4]

So what are peoples thoughts on Mondays Interest free credit option not being available to new applicants?

[TamHibs]

So what are peoples thoughts on Mondays Interest free credit option not being available to new applicants?

Where is that stated?

[ronaldo7]

So what are peoples thoughts on Mondays Interest free credit option not being available to new applicants?

Where are you getting this information from?

From the statement...I have also been asked to consider bringing back a new interest free payment plan - I am pleased to say that I have instructed a new trial of this offer - for this season to assess and monitor the need for this type of scheme and hopefully any uplift in sales.　　
These tickets will be available to buy from Monday 7 July for both regular Season Tickets and also for those who purchase Hospitality Season Tickets. We will publicise ways to buy from that date.

[WHUHibs]

Duped, idiots. Absolutely no need for so called Hibs supporters to be calling people names because they have decided to pay the money asked. Their choice not to and that has to be respected. I might have missed it but I don't see anyone who has bought one being this vindictive.

As I said earlier I bought mine knowing how much it was going to cost me to support Hibs next season. Such is life that we have been relegated. Not happy but will get on with it as it was my choice to buy it. Nobody coerced me. TBGWA did not come and kick down my door in their camouflage suits.

One other thing though, and I guess this will upset some. When the zombies were kicked out of the league and newco came in, their fans rallied round with round about 40,000 season ticket holders if we believe the numbers. Last season they also rallied round. This season they ain't obviously due to the infighting. When the yams were caught cheating and docked their 15 points, their fans answered their club's plea to put money in. They responded positively. We have not. I know it is different circumstances and I know people will say that at least these two won trophies etc whilst we have been fleeced and won nowt. The club is trying to change, in my opinion we need to help them with this change. LD has come in to change things, lets help one more time.
Everyone has a breaking point. Some have passed that point, others have not. First season with no Tache running things in my opinion deserves a wee bit help. ( I do know that some will never believe he is not running things and he will continue to be pilloried).

Fair points raised,,,however, if Rod really announced he had left would that encourage more people to renew and fully trust the regime that change is real?

[Charnley 4]

Where are you getting this information from?

From the statement...I have also been asked to consider bringing back a new interest free payment plan - I am pleased to say that I have instructed a new trial of this offer - for this season to assess and monitor the need for this type of scheme and hopefully any uplift in sales.　　
These tickets will be available to buy from Monday 7 July for both regular Season Tickets and also for those who purchase Hospitality Season Tickets. We will publicise ways to buy from that date.

I may have read this wrong thinking it was only for regular (existing) season ticket holders or for those buying hospitality.

[ronaldo7]

I may have read this wrong thinking it was only for regular (existing) season ticket holders or for those buying hospitality.

Open to all mate. Bring a pal:greengrin

[Lucius Apuleius]

Fair points raised,,,however, if Rod really announced he had left would that encourage more people to renew and fully trust the regime that change is real?

It probably would. However I am prepared to be a duped idiot believing that LD is her own woman and will run the club the way she sees fit, answerable, quite correctly, to the full board.

[marinello59]

I may have read this wrong thinking it was only for regular (existing) season ticket holders or for those buying hospitality.

I think you have read it wrong. Looks like you will be picking your seat on Monday.:thumbsup:

[Charnley 4]

I think you have read it wrong. Looks like you will be picking your seat on Monday.:thumbsup: I genuinely had a ten thousand word essay type rant last night at my partner about this. I've been away past few years from Edinburgh, but glad to be back and will get signed up on Monday :agree: Ps. apologies if I caused any confusion!!

[ronaldo7]

Fair points raised,,,however, if Rod really announced he had left would that encourage more people to renew and fully trust the regime that change is real?

If Rod stood at the top o the mound in his undergadgies shouting "I've left the club", some would still say he was pulling the strings from the back.:greengrin

[WHUHibs]

It probably would. However I am prepared to be a duped idiot believing that LD is her own woman and will run the club the way she sees fit, answerable, quite correctly, to the full board.

Anyone who can sit in the servis air lounge and drinks free beer is no duped idiot:-) it's even better now you get bacon rolls in the morning which you can down with your beer!

To be fair I'm struggling to renew,,last year I did again even though my laddie plays every Saturday and we made away games and Sunday/ midweek ,,,it's a hard call for me personally ,,,but will see as the season approaches :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

Anyone who can sit in the servis air lounge and drinks free beer is no duped idiot:-) it's even better now you get bacon rolls in the morning which you can down with your beer!

To be fair I'm struggling to renew,,last year I did again even though my laddie plays every Saturday and we made away games and Sunday/ midweek ,,,it's a hard call for me personally ,,,but will see as the season approaches :greengrin

Go on do it, you know you really want too!!!

[WHUHibs]

If Rod stood at the top o the mound in his undergadgies shouting "I've left the club", some would still say he was pulling the strings from the back.:greengrin

Your right I probably would :greengrin

[WHUHibs]

Go on do it, you know you really want too!!!

Billy you know I will,,,if not Emma will do it for me :greengrin

[Waxy]

£405 it would cost more per year to buy a small coffee from greggs everyday.

[Lucius Apuleius]

Anyone who can sit in the servis air lounge and drinks free beer is no duped idiot:-) it's even better now you get bacon rolls in the morning which you can down with your beer!

To be fair I'm struggling to renew,,last year I did again even though my laddie plays every Saturday and we made away games and Sunday/ midweek ,,,it's a hard call for me personally ,,,but will see as the season approaches :greengrin

:-). Correct. I actually changed to BA from Lagos as the lounge at Heathrow had bacon butties out from around 6 in the morning. Always a nice welcome home compared to the rubbish food at Schipol and CDG. :-)

[Baldy Foghorn]

If Rod stood at the top o the mound in his undergadgies shouting "I've left the club", some would still say he was pulling the strings from the back.:greengrin

Whilst RP continues to hold a 10% stake in the Holding Company, people will always question decisions etc.....Shame for LD as this cynicism does not help her one bit

[steviehibsleith]

Except when the club were encouraging folk to attend latterly last season in an attempt to drag the team over the line the prices were actually reduced. I don't remember one St holder who had effectively paid more complain. Your point has no value.

Why does my post have no value when you you firstly change the timescale - i clearly stated November and you reply latterly part of the season.
Secondly where did i say anything about season ticket holders ? With your 16000 + post surely you are aware like i am every time the debate about reducing walk up prices for a game raises its head it is Hibernian FC that respond with we cant because season ticket prices average out at £17 a game so we have to give them value for money.

My post does have value if you think charging £22 to watch Livi QOS Alloa Cowdenbeath in November isnt going to deter walk up fans you are deluded.

[WHUHibs]

:-). Correct. I actually changed to BA from Lagos as the lounge at Heathrow had bacon butties out from around 6 in the morning. Always a nice welcome home compared to the rubbish food at Schipol and CDG. :-)

:greengrin

[Keith_M]

Yep, still the same entrenched viewpoints and occasional name calling on this thread as yesterday.

Oh well, I'll go haunt the other threads instead.....

[Just_Jimmy]

I didn't renew. It had 80% to do with my personal situation and 20% the fact by the renewal time I had no intentions for handing Hibs any money.

It's probably 90-10 now but there is absolutely no way I will be attending a game this season if Hibs think they can charge £22+ for this level. Even against Sevco and Them.

[hibs0666]

The announcement was always going to go down badly as it has been made when the club is at its lowest ebb and £400 looks like very poor value.

I don't really give a toss who the opposition is, like most people I go along to watch Hibs and the problem is that I have no clue just now as to how HIbs will look next season.

If Hibs fill the team with hapless journeymen that it will be a no to a season ticket from me. If however Hibs recruit decent quality and look being competitive with the Cheats 1&2 then £400 will start to look like value and I will be in there.

The next step is with Hibs...

[Crossgates Hibs]

£405 it would cost more per year to buy a small coffee from greggs everyday.


I don't have a season ticket due to work commitments and that I like to move around the ground depending on whom I attend with. The only reason I would buy one would be if we were in a Yam type situation like last season and needed to keep the wolf from the door. I'm as a walk up not bothered about paying £22 to watch us v Dumbarton or anyone else probably more refreshing than watching any bottom six Spl game at Easter Road. I'd pay into a managers fund or a half season ticket where you could validate it for any spare seat for ten home games. It's beyond me why I can't have a ticket that allows me to pay in advance for ten games in an area of the ground of my choosing. It would be a win win for the club.
I do think the club should have chucked in a free cup top up or a free top (might have to as it looks hideous) to appease season ticket holders. This is a time to stick together we have watched pish for years now and I for one won't mind paying the same prices despite the opposition IF we start to play decent football and start winning games for a change. I respect everyone's opinions and mine might not be popular due to not being a season ticket holder but we need to back the club and go for it and the club needs to back us this time round and repay us on the pitch. If Leanne Dempster reads this then introduce a flexible season ticket for so many games with an option to choose where to sit and I'm in and I think many others would be too.

[RIP]

Let me tell you why I'm disappointed with the statement!

David Forsyth I'm sure is behind the communication the part where she mentions cost of other clubs. Nothing left the club previously without his approval unless that has now changed!

The part of this that infuriates me is the talk about additional benefits to season tickets!

Approx 2 years ago myself and another 5 good Hibbies spent a lot of time putting a document together to create a membership scheme similar to some English clubs. This was headed by a non exec and ourselves and was seen as a good idea to be quickly developed into 2014/2015 season. Guess what despite the buy in it didn't happen and was a 12 month rolling membership and moved away from season ticket renewal. If that had taken off with all the benefits then we would not be in this type of position.

So to see a discussion about added value looks like a knee jerk reaction on justifying the current position on how to hold value!

Andrew - LD has recently been invited to reform the Working Together Sales/Marketing team that you were involved on during the 12/13 season. Before the 'evergreen ticket' scheme could be implemented we needed IT systems to change so a small team was put in place to create vendor requirements. The first phase went live last season. So this close season is ripe for designing those packages in advance of 2015. Are you in?

WT also offered to run the Survey Monkey service (similar to Green Views) that the LWT Big Issues team ran last year. This would have targeted those that were still to renew. In that first season supporters working with management ran a telephone helpline for non-renewals. A similar service could have been provided this week.

I wasn't able to attend the meeting with LD last week so it is unfair for me to comment on how productive these discussions were. But I can't help wondering if adopting the approach set out above would have enabled Leeann to prove she was genuinely interested in taking opinions and arriving at a collective decision? Did she feel compelled to rush out a quick broadcast rather than take a further week to achieve a supporter mandate? Are there other time pressures we are not aware of?

Although I admire the detail that's gone into it and the genuine statement of intent to look at incentives, the tone of the website statement still carries too much of the RP autocratic, corporate culture where management run staff (fans) forums to prove they are 'engaging' but attendees see little evidence of their feedback in the final decisions. As the main investors in the club, our opinions have to drive decision-making to make sure the club is united and moving forward together. Management decisions made in haste and based on staged arithmetic puts at risk the goodwill that could have come from a well organised fans consultation process.

Of course these fears may be ill-founded - maybe those who attended the meeting (Ronaldo, PatHead etc.) could set my mind at rest?

[MontrealHibs]

The announcement was always going to go down badly as it has been made when the club is at its lowest ebb and £400 looks like very poor value.

I don't really give a toss who the opposition is, like most people I go along to watch Hibs and the problem is that I have no clue just now as to how HIbs will look next season.

Agree 100% what difference does it make if it's Motherwell, Kilmarnock, Dumbarton or Livingston the only reason we are going is to follow the Hibees. Let's get some decent players in.

[Crazyhorse]

Whilst RP continues to hold a 10% stake in the Holding Company, people will always question decisions etc.....Shame for LD as this cynicism does not help her one bit

The past decade at Hibs should encourage people to question decisions. Ask awkward questions etc. Anyone who doesn't is no different to the head in the sand Yams we took great pleasure in laughing at over the past few seasons.

[Hibby70]

Leeann should have just given all ST holder a voucher for the new top.

Nobody would have used it.

[QMU-1875]

I haven't renewed yet and most likely won't if Petrie is still at the club. Everything about the club suggests to me LD is not capable of creating change with Petrie around. This strip to "honour" the famous 5 is no such thing, it was the cheapest template and Petrie thought he could pull a fly one over us fans, it has been confirmed this strip has been designed for some time I believe the delay had been deciding what it honours the famous 5 or WW1. The fact we haven't signed anyone also suggests that LD is not being allowed to spebd money as season ticket sales are not what they should be. I'm sorry but this club now more than ever had to speculate to accumulate, the fans have had enough.

On another note where is the Petrie out campaign? They need to step it up!

[silverhibee]

Andrew - LD has recently been invited to reform the Working Together Sales/Marketing team that you were involved on during the 12/13 season. Before the 'evergreen ticket' scheme could be implemented we needed IT systems to change so a small team was put in place to create vendor requirements. The first phase went live last season. So this close season is ripe for designing those packages in advance of 2015. Are you in?

WT also offered to run the Survey Monkey service (similar to Green Views) that the LWT Big Issues team ran last year. This would have targeted those that were still to renew. In that first season supporters working with management ran a telephone helpline for non-renewals. A similar service could have been provided this week.

I wasn't able to attend the meeting with LD last week so it is unfair for me to comment on how productive these discussions were. But I can't help wondering if adopting the approach set out above would have enabled Leeann to prove she was genuinely interested in taking opinions and arriving at a collective decision? Did she feel compelled to rush out a quick broadcast rather than take a further week to achieve a supporter mandate? Are there other time pressures we are not aware of?

Although I admire the detail that's gone into it and the genuine statement of intent to look at incentives, the tone of the website statement still carries too much of the RP autocratic, corporate culture where management run staff (fans) forums to prove they are 'engaging' but attendees see little evidence of their feedback in the final decisions. As the main investors in the club, our opinions have to drive decision-making to make sure the club is united and moving forward together. Management decisions made in haste and based on staged arithmetic puts at risk the goodwill that could have come from a well organised fans consultation process.

Of course these fears may be ill-founded - maybe those who attended the meeting (Ronaldo, PatHead etc.) could set my mind at rest?

Does WT have it's own website, if not is there plans to do so in the future, LD keeps mention the group but how do Hibs fans go about seeing what work you good folk are doing for our club. :aok:

[Lago]

Out of curiosity what are the various theories as to why Hearts are selling season tickets so much easier than Hibs, Hearts have had well documented problems but there seems to be a feel good factor there which is missing at ER.
Why?

[Nando™]

Out of curiosity what are the various theories as to why Hearts are selling season tickets so much easier than Hibs, Hearts have had well documented problems but there seems to be a feel good factor there which is missing at ER.
Why?

Because they were fresh out of administration and in a state of euphoria having stolen tens of millions from charities and other creditors.

[JimBHibees]

Out of curiosity what are the various theories as to why Hearts are selling season tickets so much easier than Hibs, Hearts have had well documented problems but there seems to be a feel good factor there which is missing at ER.
Why?

Pretty simple they knew they were going down after years of cheating while we monumentally cocked up. They see themselves as hard done to heroes while we see ourselves as losers at the moment.

[Northern Hibby]

This thread has dropped down now that the strip is out, expect the same to happening strip threads when signings announced tomorrow ;-)

It's all planned ;-)

[Devine]

Here's some simple mathematics for you Leanne if you reduce the prices by £50 you may lose £1/4 mil (which won't be directly off the mangers budget btw) this is true. However it may give the hardcore of fans who bought these tickets the feeling that the club acknowledge the huge mistakes that have been made and increase the rapport between the supporters and board, it would also allow hibs to drop prices for selected games without too much hassle & encourage more people who have been on the fence to buy season tickets. The potential increase in revenue therefore would well outstrip this shortfall if handled correctly. Instead we are given the same rhetoric and guilt trip of every other season of failure, absolute joke £23 for Cowdenbeath on a wet November Saturday it is then.

[marinello59]

Here's some simple mathematics for you Leanne if you reduce the prices by £50 you may lose £1/4 mil (which won't be directly off the mangers budget btw) this is true. However it may give the hardcore of fans who bought these tickets the feeling that the club acknowledge the huge mistakes that have been made and increase the rapport between the supporters and board, it would also allow hibs to drop prices for selected games without too much hassle & encourage more people who have been on the fence to buy season tickets. The potential increase in revenue therefore would well outstrip this shortfall if handled correctly. Instead we are given the same rhetoric and guilt trip of every other season of failure, absolute joke £23 for Cowdenbeath on a wet November Saturday it is then.

Now people are even inventing non-existent fixtures to make things appear worse than they are. Most of our kick offs will be Saturday at 3pm. Apparently not having games at that time was the reason many wouldn't renew last year. You could have used Rangers or Hearts at home on a Saturday as well. Not quite so wrist slashingly awful for some though.
Anybody else like me and actually looking forward to the new season?

[TRC]

The positive sandwich is what LD is using sponser season tickets strip players!

[WHUHibs]

Andrew - LD has recently been invited to reform the Working Together Sales/Marketing team that you were involved on during the 12/13 season. Before the 'evergreen ticket' scheme could be implemented we needed IT systems to change so a small team was put in place to create vendor requirements. The first phase went live last season. So this close season is ripe for designing those packages in advance of 2015. Are you in?

WT also offered to run the Survey Monkey service (similar to Green Views) that the LWT Big Issues team ran last year. This would have targeted those that were still to renew. In that first season supporters working with management ran a telephone helpline for non-renewals. A similar service could have been provided this week.

I wasn't able to attend the meeting with LD last week so it is unfair for me to comment on how productive these discussions were. But I can't help wondering if adopting the approach set out above would have enabled Leeann to prove she was genuinely interested in taking opinions and arriving at a collective decision? Did she feel compelled to rush out a quick broadcast rather than take a further week to achieve a supporter mandate? Are there other time pressures we are not aware of?

Although I admire the detail that's gone into it and the genuine statement of intent to look at incentives, the tone of the website statement still carries too much of the RP autocratic, corporate culture where management run staff (fans) forums to prove they are 'engaging' but attendees see little evidence of their feedback in the final decisions. As the main investors in the club, our opinions have to drive decision-making to make sure the club is united and moving forward together. Management decisions made in haste and based on staged arithmetic puts at risk the goodwill that could have come from a well organised fans consultation process.

Of course these fears may be ill-founded - maybe those who attended the meeting (Ronaldo, PatHead etc.) could set my mind at rest?

Fair comment,,,wasn't given the update but I just got fed up with what I saw as lack of progress and it appeared unwillingness to engage. I focussed my attention working direct with another member of the club,,on other things. Have to say I felt rightly or wrongly it was a lot of good work by all groups but the proposals did not appear to be brought to a conclusion..a good example was the computerised booking system when the guys who had the knowledge didn't seem to be involved finally?

Hopefully LD will have a closer involvement with groups bringing projects to a conclusion but not allowing Hibs just to PR something but give it substance.:wink:

[Hibercelona]

Now people are even inventing non-existent fixtures to make things appear worse than they are. Most of our kick offs will be Saturday at 3pm. Apparently not having games at that time was the reason many wouldn't renew last year. You could have used Rangers or Hearts at home on a Saturday as well. Not quite so wrist slashingly awful for some though.
Anybody else like me and actually looking forward to the new season?

I think people are possibly waiting for the club to give them a reason to look forward to next season? :dunno:

In our current condition, nothing good can come out of next season and that's not making things appear worse than they are.

[Keith_M]

Here's some simple mathematics for you Leanne if you reduce the prices by £50 you may lose £1/4 mil (which won't be directly off the mangers budget btw) this is true. However it may give the hardcore of fans who bought these tickets the feeling that the club acknowledge the huge mistakes that have been made and increase the rapport between the supporters and board, it would also allow hibs to drop prices for selected games without too much hassle & encourage more people who have been on the fence to buy season tickets. The potential increase in revenue therefore would well outstrip this shortfall if handled correctly. Instead we are given the same rhetoric and guilt trip of every other season of failure, absolute joke £23 for Cowdenbeath on a wet November Saturday it is then.


I promised myself I wouldn't come back on here but.....


The majority of Hibs Season Ticket sales are in one or other consessions bracket, most of those are already a fairly decent price. You wouldn't need to reduce all prices, just the most expensive. So, the £1/4 million figure is misleading. Many fans have also said they would happily allow the club to keep the difference, making it even less still.

Also, sales have now totally stalled. It's possible that having a reduction in the highest price bracket, in conjunction with decent signings, could have increased others to buy, probably more than making up for any deficit. I say 'could' because no-one really knows. The club made no effort to find out.

[andrew70]

Out of curiosity what are the various theories as to why Hearts are selling season tickets so much easier than Hibs, Hearts have had well documented problems but there seems to be a feel good factor there which is missing at ER.
Why?

Hearts fans knew they were going down. Hibs should never have went down. We deserve to be where we are now but this should never have been allowed to happen.

[marinello59]

I think people are possibly waiting for the club to give them a reason to look forward to next season? :dunno:

In our current condition, nothing good can come out of next season and that's not making things appear worse than they are.

I've got the same reason I have had for over 40 years. Hibs will be playing football matches. I'm a simple soul though.

[Keith_M]

I've got the same reason I have had for over 40 years. Hibs will be playing football matches. I'm a simple soul though.

Good for you.

The problem is that some people will buy regardless (like your good self) but others will buy depending on other factors such as signings, prices, etc. Hibs have to consider all types of fans when making such decisions.

We can already see that as Hibs have sold roughly half the STs they did only 7 years ago.

[Hibercelona]

I've got the same reason I have had for over 40 years. Hibs will be playing football matches. I'm a simple soul though.

Hibs are a team that aim to entertain their fans with good football while never lacking in effort and pride.

I haven't seen Hibs play in years, because Hibs haven't been there to watch in years. Any group of huddies can throw on a green and white shirt, but that doesn't make them Hibs.

I hope there's a Hibs next season to watch. But unless the club start focusing on the quality of the team, instead of how much they can squeeze out of fans while offering as little as possible in return, there won't be a Hibs to watch next season.

[blackpoolhibs]

I've got the same reason I have had for over 40 years. Hibs will be playing football matches. I'm a simple soul though.

Hibs have taken the piss for way too long now, and the amount of folk like yourself is diminishing, the argument that its Hibs its what i do does not work in 2014 when the product on show is this bad.

[Smartie]

Hibs are a team that aim to entertain their fans with good football while never lacking in effort and pride.

I haven't seen Hibs play in years, because Hibs haven't been there to watch in years. Any group of huddies can throw on a green and white shirt, but that doesn't make them Hibs.

I hope there's a Hibs next season to watch. But unless the club start focusing on the quality of the team, instead of how much they can squeeze out of fans while offering as little as possible in return, there won't be a Hibs to watch next season.


Cracking post and I agree in particular with the bit in bold.

[RIP]

Does WT have it's own website, if not is there plans to do so in the future, LD keeps mention the group but how do Hibs fans go about seeing what work you good folk are doing for our club. :aok:

I've noticed LD has started describing WT as a group. It's not a group Silver.

Working Together is a philosophy, a gateway where all parts of Hibernian Football Club come together to ......errrrr WORK. The framework grew from fans forums where we met only to talk - so this is the club taking collaboration to the next level. Leeann, her team, the board, Alan and the players are all part of Working Together. It's open house. Anyone who wants to help the club can attend a WT meeting, get involved in a WT project.

So when supporters met Leeann last week it was a Working Together meeting.......rather than a meeting of Leeann with Working Together........if that's makes sense.

If there is a successful outcome (as opposed to work in progress) you will read about it on the Hibs website with other updates on Hibs.Net and Bounce. Supporters should also see tangible evidence in gradual improvements in their Hibs experience e.g. ticket initiatives, lottery, turnstile access

One of the lead WT activists is actively promoting the idea of a website but as with all these things it will use admin resource to maintain. I guess we should put the question back to you. Would you prefer more coverage of Working Together on a standalone website or simply a more coverage on our club site - say via a separate page? Either way the activity is core to Hibernian FC.

[The Green Goblin]

I've noticed LD has started describing WT as a group. It's not a group Silver.

Working Together is a philosophy, a gateway where all parts of Hibernian Football Club come together to ......errrrr WORK. The framework grew from fans forums where we met only to talk - so this is the club taking collaboration to the next level. Leeann, her team, the board, Alan and the players are all part of Working Together. It's open house. Anyone who wants to help the club can attend a WT meeting, get involved in a WT project.

So when supporters met Leeann last week it was a Working Together meeting.......rather than a meeting of Leeann with Working Together........if that's makes sense.

If there is a successful outcome (as opposed to work in progress) you will read about it on the Hibs website with other updates on Hibs.Net and Bounce. Supporters should also see tangible evidence in gradual improvements in their Hibs experience e.g. ticket initiatives, lottery, turnstile access

One of the lead WT activists is actively promoting the idea of a website but as with all these things it will use admin resource to maintain. I guess we should put the question back to you. Would you prefer more coverage of Working Together on a standalone website or simply a more coverage on our club site - say via a separate page? Either way the activity is core to Hibernian FC.

What about a WT only forum in here? There's the likes of the Cheese Board, Dugout, Overseas Supporters there, so surely it wouldn't be a stretch to create a Working Together one?

[bighairyfaeleith]

Is it right the payment plan is just four installments?

[ronaldo7]

Andrew - LD has recently been invited to reform the Working Together Sales/Marketing team that you were involved on during the 12/13 season. Before the 'evergreen ticket' scheme could be implemented we needed IT systems to change so a small team was put in place to create vendor requirements. The first phase went live last season. So this close season is ripe for designing those packages in advance of 2015. Are you in?

WT also offered to run the Survey Monkey service (similar to Green Views) that the LWT Big Issues team ran last year. This would have targeted those that were still to renew. In that first season supporters working with management ran a telephone helpline for non-renewals. A similar service could have been provided this week.

I wasn't able to attend the meeting with LD last week so it is unfair for me to comment on how productive these discussions were. But I can't help wondering if adopting the approach set out above would have enabled Leeann to prove she was genuinely interested in taking opinions and arriving at a collective decision? Did she feel compelled to rush out a quick broadcast rather than take a further week to achieve a supporter mandate? Are there other time pressures we are not aware of?

Although I admire the detail that's gone into it and the genuine statement of intent to look at incentives, the tone of the website statement still carries too much of the RP autocratic, corporate culture where management run staff (fans) forums to prove they are 'engaging' but attendees see little evidence of their feedback in the final decisions. As the main investors in the club, our opinions have to drive decision-making to make sure the club is united and moving forward together. Management decisions made in haste and based on staged arithmetic puts at risk the goodwill that could have come from a well organised fans consultation process.

Of course these fears may be ill-founded - maybe those who attended the meeting (Ronaldo, PatHead etc.) could set my mind at rest?

Gogs,

If you take a look at the note of the meeting from 24/6/14, and then look through Leeann's statement, you will see several areas which are covered in both. The discussions were full, frank and varied. She didn't strike me as having made her mind up. She was open to persuasion, but as I have already said both here, and on the PM board, she was in a no win situation not of her making, and whatever she did, the pelters were coming her way.

[Jonnyboy]

it's just words that is all. You have obviously been duped along with others on this thread who have forgotten the past 10 or so seasons where decline is all we have experienced. absolutely no actions have been taken to rectify the situation at Hibs. Petrie is still there, Farmer couldn't care less and no signings have been made. I'm sorry but not reducing the prices in the present situation is laughable. The club cannot expect anyone to pay those prices again. completely undeserved and I don't think people who are not renewing for these reasons deserve to be criticised and labelled as "not real fans" etc. Those who have done so should be ashamed of yourselves. I personally cannot understand your position of following these idiots blindly.

So you're telling me that because I've renewed my season ticket I should be ashamed of myself? Jeez I've heard it all now

[Hibercelona]

So you're telling me that because I've renewed my season ticket I should be ashamed of myself? Jeez I've heard it all now

Do you actually read what posts say? Or do you just pick out segments and use them in the context that suits you? :dunno:

[Jonnyboy]

Do you actually read what posts say? Or do you just pick out segments and use them in the context that suits you? :dunno:

Eh? I reacted to the bit that I disagreed with. It's fairly common on here or don't you read what posts actually say? Do you agree I should feel ashamed for renewing?

[Hibercelona]

Eh? I reacted to the bit that I disagreed with. It's fairly common on here or don't you read what posts actually say? Do you agree I should feel ashamed for renewing?

If you read the other parts, you'd realize that the part you quoted meant something quite different than what you were intentionally mistaken it to be. It seems to be your trump card on here.

[Jonnyboy]

If you read the other parts, you'd realize that the part you quoted meant something quite different than what you were intentionally mistaken it to be. It seems to be your trump card on here.

I think you'll find, if you read it again, that you are mistaken in your view that the part quoted meant something quite different to how I interpreted it. Then again, you're never wrong so I know I'm wasting my time pointing out yet another error on your part.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think you'll find, if you read it again, that you are mistaken in your view that the part quoted meant something quite different to how I interpreted it. Then again, you're never wrong so I know I'm wasting my time pointing out yet another error on your part.

Put the mouse down John, you could get repetitive strain injury and as we all know, that can kill you. :wink:

[Billy Whizz]

Put the mouse down John, you could get repetitive strain injury and as we all know, that can kill you. :wink:

Christ he's not that old

[Jonnyboy]

Put the mouse down John, you could get repetitive strain injury and as we all know, that can kill you. :wink:

:greengrin

All the world loves a slaver and this one tops the bill :greengrin

[Billy Whizz]

:greengrin

All the world loves a slaver and this one tops the bill :greengrin

Has he bought his/her season ticket yet?

[Jonnyboy]

Has he bought his/her season ticket yet?

You could ask, but don't expect a coherent response :wink:

[Hibercelona]

I think you'll find, if you read it again, that you are mistaken in your view that the part quoted meant something quite different to how I interpreted it. Then again, you're never wrong so I know I'm wasting my time pointing out yet another error on your part.

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of "taken out of context". Anybody can take a short sentence or piece of text from a paragraph, knowing full well that the meaning is altered without the surrounding sentences and text. The media use that trick all the time to make controversial headlines. It's quite poor.

[Jonnyboy]

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of "taken out of context". Anybody can take a short sentence or piece of text from a paragraph, knowing full well that the meaning is altered without the surrounding sentences and text. The media use that trick all the time to make controversial headlines. It's quite poor.

As I thought. You don't understand it and you're unable to admit you are wrong. Will you answer my question now? Should I be ashamed because I've renewed my season ticket?

[Hibercelona]

Has he bought his/her season ticket yet?

Nope. You should rattle on about how you're a better fan than me and everybody else who hasn't. Seems to be the common trend these days.

[number 27]

As I thought. You don't understand it and you're unable to admit you are wrong. Will you answer my question now? Should I be ashamed because I've renewed my season ticket?

Sorry to interrupt the usual bullying but I agree with Hibercelona's interpretation of the original post. I don't think the poster meant that those who had bought tickets should be ashamed I think he was referring to the language being used.

[Hibercelona]

As I thought. You don't understand it and you're unable to admit you are wrong. Will you answer my question now? Should I be ashamed because I've renewed my season ticket?


The club cannot expect anyone to pay those prices again. completely undeserved and I don't think people who are not renewing for these reasons deserve to be criticised and labelled as "not real fans" etc. Those who have done so should be ashamed of yourselves.

Can I make it any clearer for you?

[Jonnyboy]

Nope. You should rattle on about how you're a better fan than me and everybody else who hasn't. Seems to be the common trend these days.

Please point out to me where I've said I'm a better fan than you, or anyone else on here for that matter.


Sorry to interrupt the usual bullying but I agree with Hibercelona's interpretation of the original post. I don't think the poster meant that those who had bought tickets should be ashamed I think he was referring to the language being used.

Since when did engaging in debate, disagreeing on points and asking questions constitute bullying. If you, or he, feel I'm bullying, feel free to report me

[Ronniekirk]

Nope. You should rattle on about how you're a better fan than me and everybody else who hasn't. Seems to be the common trend these days.
Billy goes to lots of the under 20 and youth games so you can certainly put him down as a very committed fan

[Billy Whizz]

Nope. You should rattle on about how you're a better fan than me and everybody else who hasn't. Seems to be the common trend these days.

Don't have the feeling at all, just like to support my team now again, unlike a lot on here, who just want to permanently criticise everything from the club

[Hibercelona]

Billy goes to lots of the under 20 and youth games so you can certainly put him down as a very committed fan

I'm not questioning anybody elses commitment on here. But people trying to get personal over points that I can prove to be incorrect is quite tiresome.

I've cleared up my point now and feel no need to carry on with it.

[Ronniekirk]

I'm not questioning anybody elses commitment on here. But people trying to get personal over points that I can prove to be incorrect is quite tiresome.

I've cleared up my point now and feel no need to carry on with it.

Am glad you have cleared up your point ,but probably just till the next point needs cleared up :wink: But fair play to you you hang in there

[Jonnyboy]

Do you actually read what posts say? Or do you just pick out segments and use them in the context that suits you? :dunno:


I'm not questioning anybody elses commitment on here. But people trying to get personal over points that I can prove to be incorrect is quite tiresome.

I've cleared up my point now and feel no need to carry on with it.

Pot and kettle over getting personal don't you think?

Anyway, I'm about to do something which you may find hard to understand, given that you clearly don't understand the concept. You were right, I was wrong. I apologise

[Pretty Boy]

Do you actually read what posts say? Or do you just pick out segments and use them in the context that suits you? :dunno:

Says the guy who ranted at me about my comments about Stevenson on another thread having clearly not read the entire post.....

[Hibercelona]

Says the guy who ranted at me about my comments about Stevenson on another thread having clearly not read the entire post.....

Fair enough. You're right, I didn't and I apologize for that. But I don't go around doing it purposefully at every given opportunity in an attempt to cause some kind of stir up. If I miss something, it's because I genuinely missed it. I don't bold out parts of posts, intentionally taking them out of context.

[Jonnyboy]

Fair enough. You're right, I didn't and I apologize for that. But I don't go around doing it purposefully at every given opportunity in an attempt to cause some kind of stir up. If I miss something, it's because I genuinely missed it. I don't bold out parts of posts, intentionally taking them out of context.

I'm guessing that's aimed at me. I don't intentionally take them out of context and have apologised to you because you're reading of it was correct. Now why not be a man and accept my apology instead of ignoring it

[PatHead]

Is everyone aware that the payment plan over 4 months? Just don't want folk disappointed on Monday when they find out.

[Hibercelona]

I'm guessing that's aimed at me. I don't intentionally take them out of context and have apologised to you because you're reading of it was correct. Now why not be a man and accept my apology instead of ignoring it

I didn't go back to the last page to read the comments. But fair play and I apologize for going off on one like I did. :aok:

[Jonnyboy]

I didn't go back to the last page to read the comments. But fair play and I apologize for going off on one like I did. :aok:

Thank you :aok:

[lord bunberry]

Out of curiosity what are the various theories as to why Hearts are selling season tickets so much easier than Hibs, Hearts have had well documented problems but there seems to be a feel good factor there which is missing at ER.
Why?

Hearts selling 8000 would still leave them well down on what they sold last season. If you take what we sold last year and what they sold last year we're probably closer to our figure than they are, they have been selling them for a much shorter time than us and at a cheaper price.