Hallam Hope

[Leitherhibs]

Hallam Hope is to be alan stubbs first signing, potentially on loan. Dont know the exact details of the deal, but hes hoping to get him up here ASAP. Martinez is keen for the lad to experience more first team football and has respect for the scottish game. The lad plays in evertons u21/reserve side and is a centre forward im told.
Source - an agent friend.

[Elephant Stone]

Good scoring record while on loan from Everton and for the England youth teams, looks exciting.

[Unseen work]

Couple of people mentioned him aswell as a paper, looks a good prospect and scored out on loan quite a bit

[GloryGlory]

Hallam Hope is to be alan stubbs first signing, potentially on loan. Dont know the exact details of the deal, but hes hoping to get him up here ASAP. Martinez is keen for the lad to experience more first team football and has respect for the scottish game. The lad plays in evertons u21/reserve side and is a centre forward im told.
Source - an agent friend.

Well, it sounds better than the hit and hope we have been used to. :greengrin

[Franck Stanton]

Hallam Hope is to be alan stubbs first signing, potentially on loan. Dont know the exact details of the deal, but hes hoping to get him up here ASAP. Martinez is keen for the lad to experience more first team football and has respect for the scottish game. The lad plays in evertons u21/reserve side and is a centre forward im told.
Source - an agent friend.

And you know this, how?

[Smartie]

Underwhelmed.

I'd rather we got Bob Hope/ The Pope /Soap on a Rope etc etc.

I just wanted to be the first.

He sounds good to me.

[Leitherhibs]

And you know this, how?

Read the last sentence.

[Unseen work]

And you know this, how?

Clearly says at the bottom. Up to you if you beleive it

[Franck Stanton]

Read the last sentence.

oops my mistake lol - appointment already made at specsavers.

[brog]

Sounds like a real possibility. Represented England at all age levels to date, 32 caps & 18 goals. Contract up at end of season so a season long loan would possibly suit both clubs.

[Waxy]

Whelmed. We're gonna have to trust.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Am I right in saying he was at Bury last season and scored a few for them?

[Speedway]

And you know this, how?

Do you mean 'source'?

[Speedway]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallam_Hope

[The goalie]

How long until we get some Jurno coming up with a Hallam Foe reference :)

[Speedway]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW59YDXpMik

Hope for us all.

[The goalie]

Hat trick hero :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpeWdreE59M

[Sylar]

Didn't I read somewhere that LD didn't want us making/see the point in loan deals?

[Peevemor]

Didn't I read somewhere that LD didn't want us making/see the point in loan deals?

I don't remember that.

[CRAZYHIBBY]

Not a hope in hell

[TheFamous1875]

Didn't I read somewhere that LD didn't want us making/see the point in loan deals?

I'm not sure, but Motherwell have consistently used the loan market to their advantage over her tenure.

Actually, I think she may have been making the point of using our budget more wisely, suggesting that rather than having journeymen loanees as our main players we'd be having loan players supplement our squad? That rings more of a bell to me, although I may just be hearing what I want to hear :wink:


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[Stevie Reid]

I don't see why anyone at ER would categorically write off us using loan signings - a lot of them haven't worked out for us recently, but others certainly have over the years. In the case of Griffiths, we had one of the most successful loan signings ever.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Not a hope in hell

Have some hope ffs eh. :greengrin

[TheFamous1875]

Have some hope ffs eh.

Sometimes as a Hibby, you have hope, you keep hoping, and then WOOSH, you lose hope!


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[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Sometimes as a Hibby, you have hope, you keep hoping, and then WOOSH, you lose hope!


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:greengrin

[monktonharp]

Hallam Hope is to be alan stubbs first signing, potentially on loan. Dont know the exact details of the deal, but hes hoping to get him up here ASAP. Martinez is keen for the lad to experience more first team football and has respect for the scottish game. The lad plays in evertons u21/reserve side and is a centre forward im told.
Source - an agent friend.exactly what we are crying out for. a loan signing of an under 21 player, with great potential, what better place to send him tnan HFC, with probably the best training facilities in Scotland.:rolleyes: I'm sure the fans will flock to ER, renew ST's buy merchandise etc if this is the shape of things to come for this adventure of a lifetime season to come.

[Keith_M]

He's a bit short for a Centre Forward, only 5'10".

How's he gonna cope with all the 'hopeful' lobs into the box?

[Sylar]

I don't remember that.


I'm not sure, but Motherwell have consistently used the loan market to their advantage over her tenure.

Actually, I think she may have been making the point of using our budget more wisely, suggesting that rather than having journeymen loanees as our main players we'd be having loan players supplement our squad? That rings more of a bell to me, although I may just be hearing what I want to hear :wink:


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I don't see why anyone at ER would categorically write off us using loan signings - a lot of them haven't worked out for us recently, but others certainly have over the years. In the case of Griffiths, we had one of the most successful loan signings ever.

I think I was perhaps confusing it with her comments outlined in the notes Pretty Boy provided from one of her early meetings, where she's aware of the pitfalls of loan signings without necessarily dismissing them outright:

http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?285283-Notes-from-meeting-with-Leeann-Dempster&p=4052017&viewfull=1#post4052017


Leeann was asked about our policy on loan players going forward. Too many don't identify with the club and haven't been good enough.

She said they do have a role but we must recruit our own players better. We have been known for years for bringing through young players like Steven Fletcher and Scott Brown. She said we need a succession plan so good players are replaced by good players from within. She reiterated loan players have a role but accepted they cost without always offering value. She went on to say this feeds into the recruitment are. There will be a full review of recruitment from top to bottom with George Craig. We must recruit not just the right players but the right type of person/ All new players will have social media lessons directly with Leeann. She is sick of bad publicity about Hibs, she won't tolerate any more embarrassments.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

He's a bit short for a Centre Forward, only 5'10".

How's he gonna cope with all the 'hopeful' lobs into the box?

Same size as Heffernan.

[Keith_M]

Same size as Heffernan.


You just backed up my point perfectly



:greengrin

[Jamesie]

I don't see why anyone at ER would categorically write off us using loan signings - a lot of them haven't worked out for us recently, but others certainly have over the years. In the case of Griffiths, we had one of the most successful loan signings ever.

Griffiths was very different though - he knew what the club was all about and was from Edinburgh. I'm not knocking loan signings all together but they do little to break down the "us and them" mentality we've had between far too many of the players and fans over the last few years - Matt Doherty probably being one of the best examples of this.

Although maybe I'm being unrealistic in harking back to the bygone era of your Geebsies, KeithKeithKeiths and Tortolanos and maybe that disconnect I refer to is just part and parcel of the modern game.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

You just backed up my point perfectly



:greengrin

:agree::greengrin

[nribs]

I can't see us not going for some loan signings. If our strategy is to get out at 1st time of asking we need to build that team and then build another team to keep us in the spfl.

[Stevie Reid]

Griffiths was very different though - he knew what the club was all about and was from Edinburgh. I'm not knocking loan signings all together but they do little to break down the "us and them" mentality we've had between far too many of the players and fans over the last few years - Matt Doherty probably being one of the best examples of this.

Although maybe I'm being unrealistic in harking back to the bygone era of your Geebsies, KeithKeithKeiths and Tortolanos and maybe that disconnect I refer to is just part and parcel of the modern game.

That almost worked against us at first though - he was a maniac when he first arrived, almost sent off v Hearts right after coming on and then constantly suspended for making stupid gestures at fans. His head was all over the place and his form was sporadic at best.

But you're correct in that not every loan signing can be a Griffiths or a Grant Brebner - though Claros came from thousands of miles away and fell in love with us. Ultimately, if the player is good and does well, there is likely to be a decent bond between the fans and the player.

[RP1875]

I can't see us not going for some loan signings. If our strategy is to get out at 1st time of asking we need to build that team and then build another team to keep us in the spfl.


I don't see much of a difference between a one year loan and a one year contract. It's the calibre of the player that matters. Motherwell, Aberdeen and St Johnstone have used the market well in the past few seasons. It's better than giving huddies like Nelson and McGivern 2 year deals that's for sure.

[TRC]

Claros was a loan signing and after his first half season I don't think anyone would have grumbled if he had not returned. However he did and was passionate about the club city fans, this after being slated for his performance in the 2012 cup final. Fair enough he may have had his own agenda to move to a bigger club in the UK. Give me 5 loan signings of the ilk and I'll be a happy man!

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Didn't I read somewhere that LD didn't want us making/see the point in loan deals?

That's what I thought..

With respects I don't want this team filled with loan players! haven't we had enough problems in the past?

[RP1875]

Claros was a loan signing and after his first half season I don't think anyone would have grumbled if he had not returned. However he did and was passionate about the club city fans, this after being slated for his performance in the 2012 cup final. Fair enough he may have had his own agenda to move to a bigger club in the UK. Give me 5 loan signings of the ilk and I'll be a happy man!


Claros hid in the majority of the big games.

[Lang Toun Hibs]

I don't see why anyone at ER would categorically write off us using loan signings - a lot of them haven't worked out for us recently, but others certainly have over the years. In the case of Griffiths, we had one of the most successful loan signings ever.

But it's cheating isn't it?! ;o)

If we can get a few loan signings in to help us get up, then who wouldn't want that?

[J-C]

I think the fact that Stubbs has worked with the lad, he'll know exactly what he's about and if he'll fit in up here, gotta to start to trust the new man.

[J-C]

Claros hid in the majority of the big games.

No, Claros took a while to settle, no wife and missed the birth of his child while here, was a stand out the following season when he had his wife and kid and was settled, or you could just ignore these things eh.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Claros hid in the majority of the big games.

Made Scott Brown his bitch when we beat them 1-0 at ER, thanks to a goal from Sparky.

[RP1875]

No, Claros took a while to settle, no wife and missed the birth of his child while here, was a stand out the following season when he had his wife and kid and was settled, or you could just ignore these things eh.


Sorry but I can't remember playing well in any big game. All derbies and Hampden matches he was anonymous. He had more ability than the majority of the team and that stood out but his performances very rarely did.

There was only one stand out. His name is Leigh Griffiths.

[RP1875]

Made Scott Brown his bitch when we beat them 1-0 at ER, thanks to a goal from Sparky.


Celtic had far more possession and double the amount of shots on goal than us that game. :aok:

[Bronson]

Made Scott Brown his bitch when we beat them 1-0 at ER, thanks to a goal from Sparky.

I distinctly remember him man-marking Gary Hooper that game... Superbly so, might I add.

[Hibiza]

Hope that Hope is more than a hope and hope if a deal being done not a 3 month job ( when theres no hope left). You can only hope.

[--------]

Didn't I read somewhere that LD didn't want us making/see the point in loan deals?


Don't think so. Someone may have speculated on the subject - no end of speculation on here lately.

Motherwell used loan signings to good advantage during her time there - a season-long loan deal with a good young player makes sense.

Panic loans random loans in January just for the sake of it (as the Butcher of Hibs did this year) make no sense at all.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Celtic had far more possession and double the amount of shots on goal than us that game. :aok:

Still doesn't change the fact that Claros had Brown in his back pocket most of the game. Who cares if tbey had more of the ball and more shots? We won and that's what counts.

GGTTH

[Haymaker]

My pal, a very highly qualified and experienced football coach, sat down to watch a Hibs game with me once. His only remark was "That fella Claros is brilliant at what he does." Enough for me.

Claros may not score many, or assist, but he is always open to receive and relief pressure or help to switch play and also develop from deep. In modern football these sorts of players are worth their weight in gold.

[RP1875]

Still doesn't change the fact that Claros had Brown in his back pocket most of the game. Who cares if tbey had more of the ball and more shots? We won and that's what counts.

GGTTH


Celtic being on top the majority of the game and having double the chances of us indicates their play maker wasn't in anyones back pocket.

Opinions eh? In the past now and time to move on.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Claros is the best footballer I've seen at Easter Road in years.

[Stevie Reid]

Sorry but I can't remember playing well in any big game. All derbies and Hampden matches he was anonymous. He had more ability than the majority of the team and that stood out but his performances very rarely did.

There was only one stand out. His name is Leigh Griffiths.

He certainly ran the show in the 2-1 derby at Tynie at the end of 2012-13. And I'm pretty sure that the turning point in his Hibs career came when Stevenson went off with a broken toe in the 1-1 derby at ER in August 2012, and Claros came on and played very well. I'm sure there will be others. Certainly not fair to categorically state that he didn't play well in bigger games.

Regardless, our biggest games last season came in the bottom 6 and in a play off against Hamilton - and we didn't have anyone who could even shine in those games. I'd take Claros back in a second.

[RP1875]

He certainly ran the show in the 2-1 derby at Tynie at the end of 2012-13. And I'm pretty sure that the turning point in his Hibs career came when Stevenson went off with a broken toe in the 1-1 derby at ER in August 2012, and Claros came on and played very well. I'm sure there will be others. Certainly not fair to categorically state that he didn't play well in bigger games.

Regardless, our biggest games last season came in the bottom 6 and in a play off against Hamilton - and we didn't have anyone who could even shine in those games. I'd take Claros back in a second.


Fair points and I would like to see him return too. I just don't think he was as good as made out and didn't influence the big games like our best footballer should have.

[rcarter1]

Hope that Hope is more than a hope and hope if a deal being done not a 3 month job ( when theres no hope left). You can only hope.

Dufresne: Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things..

Red: Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.

:greengrin

[iainm1875]

Hat trick hero :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpeWdreE59M

Tom Soares, I think, with an assist in there.


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[Aldo]

Sorry but I can't remember playing well in any big game. All derbies and Hampden matches he was anonymous. He had more ability than the majority of the team and that stood out but his performances very rarely did. There was only one stand out. His name is Leigh Griffiths.

They guy was outstanding at the PBS when we won 1-2 with Caldwell getting the winner. Ran the show and had a sore back carrying Hammill in his back pocket for pretty much the whole game. Griffiths was always going to get the plaudits cause of his goals. To say that he was anonymous in all these games was and is wrong.

But back on subject.... Hopefully a wee deal to be done for this lad. Looks promising and can finish.

[cam75]

Stokes at Falkirk done well !!!

[Thecat23]

You know what I've been so sick of the piss poor players over past few years I couldn't care if it's a loan or perm. Please, please for the love of god just get a winning team on the park because everyone of us have suffered enough gash players.

Time to start getting in quality over quantity.

[Aldo]

You know what I've been so sick of the piss poor players over past few years I couldn't care if it's a loan or perm. Please, please for the love of god just get a winning team on the park because everyone of us have suffered enough gash players. Time to start getting in quality over quantity.

This.

Spot on TC.

Need a team and not a group,of individuals.

[allezsauzee]

He scored a hat trick against Portsmouth for Bury....James Collins once scored 4 against Pompey so he can't be as good. :wink:

[Fergus52]

Sorry but I can't remember playing well in any big game. All derbies and Hampden matches he was anonymous. He had more ability than the majority of the team and that stood out but his performances very rarely did.

There was only one stand out. His name is Leigh Griffiths.

Did you not see the derby at tynecastle where we won 2-1?

he completely controlled the midfield and had he not been playing we probably would have been beaten.

[RP1875]

Did you not see the derby at tynecastle where we won 2-1?

he completely controlled the midfield and had he not been playing we probably would have been beaten.


Cool, fair enough.

[PatHead]

Don't think so. Someone may have speculated on the subject - no end of speculation on here lately.

Motherwell used loan signings to good advantage during her time there - a season-long loan deal with a good young player makes sense.

Panic loans random loans in January just for the sake of it (as the Butcher of Hibs did this year) make no sense at all.

Leeann said at the meeting on the day of the protest that she was not overly in favour of loan players. She wants players who are committed to the club and will add value when sold on. She also added that if the right player was available on loan they would obviously be considered though.

She thought Motherwell had no loan players last season

[truehibernian]

Leeann said at the meeting on the day of the protest that she was not overly in favour of loan players. She wants players who are committed to the club and will add value when sold on. She also added that if the right player was available on loan they would obviously be considered though.

She thought Motherwell had no loan players last season

Ainsworth and Anier were on loan start of the season ?

[heretoday]

Leeann said at the meeting on the day of the protest that she was not overly in favour of loan players. She wants players who are committed to the club and will add value when sold on. She also added that if the right player was available on loan they would obviously be considered though.

She thought Motherwell had no loan players last season

Yeah but they always say that! If Everton want to punt some talent our way I say bring it on.

Up the Toffee Hibs!

[LancsHibs]

Yeah but they always say that! If Everton want to punt some talent our way I say bring it on.

Up the Toffee Hibs!

No a big fan of loan signings, especially Butchers! But will gladly take some of Everton's U21s, Stubbs will know which ones would do a job and talking to some Evertonians today it would seem that it's a given that at least a couple are on their way to us:aok:

[hfc rd]

Yeah but they always say that! If Everton want to punt some talent our way I say bring it on.

Up the Toffee Hibs!


Wouldn't mind it myself either. If their are any young Jordan Stones, Seamus Coleman, Ross Barkley, Wayne Rooney that Stubbs knows about back at the Everton academy and Martinez is happy for him to take them on loan then yes please.

[Aldo]

No a big fan of loan signings, especially Butchers! But will gladly take some of Everton's U21s, Stubbs will know which ones would do a job and talking to some Evertonians today it would seem that it's a given that at least a couple are on their way to us:aok:

Sounds promising Lancs. wee bit quality and lads that'll be loyal to Stubbs but also having one eye in their future at Everton.

[portycabbage]

Celtic had far more possession and double the amount of shots on goal than us that game. :aok:

I think I'm right in saying that Scott Brown claimed post match that they must have had 70% possession or more, but the bbc stats said they had 55%, which isn't really a great deal more. And I don't remember them creating many opportunities either.

[iwasthere1972]

Does our loan toffee get unveiled or unwrapped?

[Jonnyboy]

Does our loan toffee get unveiled or unwrapped?

My guess is some will chew him up and spit him out before he's even arrived :wink:

[blackpoolhibs]

My guess is some will chew him up and spit him out before he's even arrived :wink:

Unless he sucks? :wink:

[Jonnyboy]

Unless he sucks? :wink:

Not Werthers, eh I mean worthy :greengrin

[patch1875]

Heard he's coming on chewsday

[scuttle]

Heard he's coming on chewsday

looking forward to his arrival very munch

[iwasthere1972]

My guess is some will chew him up and spit him out before he's even arrived :wink:

Was he a soft centre?

[patch1875]

At 5'10 he's a bit daintie for a striker

[Peevemor]

At 5'10 he's a bit daintie for a striker

He could do with filling out (geddit?)

[Greenworld]

He's a bit short for a Centre Forward, only 5'10".

How's he gonna cope with all the 'hopeful' lobs into the box?

Really tell me the the height of the best centre forward in the world or the top 5 in your opinion
Just out of curiosity..

[jst1875]

Hallam Hope ! ............................
was it his cousin we had last season.................... Hittin Hope ? :rolleyes:

[Jonnyboy]

Hallam Hope ! ............................
was it his cousin we had last season.................... Hittin Hope ? :rolleyes:

Or Lostall Hope?

[nribs]

Really tell me the the height of the best centre forward in the world or the top 5 in your opinion
Just out of curiosity..

Ibrahimivic is 6'5 :)

[Greenworld]

Ibrahimivic is 6'5 :)
Lol fair enough

[Paisley Hibby]

Claros hid in the majority of the big games.

Don't think so. I seem to remember him getting stuck into Scotty Broon in the cup final. And right now he's not doing a lot of hiding in the world cup!

[Leitherhibs]

Just been told this should be concluded in the coming days - Season long loan.
It came from the same source that told me originally that this deal was a possibility.

[snooky]

Was he a soft centre?

Hey, no one likes a Smartie! :greengrin

[LeithBoozy]

I'm certain he will be a mint toffee player. :wink:

[Smartie]

Hey, no one likes a Smartie! :greengrin

Oi! Beat it!

I'll have you know my mum thinks I'm a lovely boy.

[macd123]

Just been told this should be concluded in the coming days - Season long loan.
It came from the same source that told me originally that this deal was a possibility.

Everyone is too busy with the puns to reply to a post about whether he is actually coming or not! Hope you are right leither!

[Stax]

Everyone is too busy with the puns to reply to a post about whether he is actually coming or not! Hope you are right leither!
Humbug

[macd123]

Humbug


:wink:

[TheFamous1875]

Can I play on the wing? Just thinking, if he has indeed got pace, we could have him one one side and Harris on the other with El-Alagui in the middle.

We'd get the best out of Harris by giving him the freedom in a 4-3-3 to attack, and pace scares the life out of teams, so I would like to hope that Hope can be our craved winger and another option up front as a striker.


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[bingo70]

If this guy is not a million miles away from the first team I'm surprised an English championship club aren't in for him?

Would have thought that'd be better for him and for Everton.

[Nutmegged]

Can I play on the wing? Just thinking, if he has indeed got pace, we could have him one one side and Harris on the other with El-Alagui in the middle.

We'd get the best out of Harris by giving him the freedom in a 4-3-3 to attack, and pace scares the life out of teams, so I would like to hope that Hope can be our craved winger and another option up front as a striker.


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If Everton have intentions of developing him as a striker and have aspirations of him him making the break through I cant see them allowing anyone to take him on loan if they aren't going to use him predominantly in the position they want him developed in

[H18sry]

If this guy is not a million miles away from the first team I'm surprised an English championship club aren't in for him?

Would have thought that'd be better for him and for Everton.

Maybe Martinez likes the way AS coaches him and would like to that continue

[Winston Ingram]

If this guy is not a million miles away from the first team I'm surprised an English championship club aren't in for him?

Would have thought that'd be better for him and for Everton.

I wouldn't have thought he was that close. He's 20, his highest loan spell was league 2 and appears to be out of contract at the end of the season.

[VPHIBEE]

Just been told this should be concluded in the coming days - Season long loan.
It came from the same source that told me originally that this deal was a possibility.

Any news on this? Although we have made some decent signings so far, none of them excite me. This guy looks like he will have everyone off their seat. I hope we get this done.

[JimBHibees]

Any news on this? Although we have made some decent signings so far, none of them excite me. This guy looks like he will have everyone off their seat. I hope we get this done.

Really, Scott Allan to me looks a very exciting signing.

[VPHIBEE]

Really, Scott Allan to me looks a very exciting signing.

Allan is a good signing. The type of player that excites me, and no doubt a great many others, is the type of striker that gets in about defenders and terrifies them. I am led to believe Hope is that kind of player. All I am saying. Just asking if anyone has any news on this.

[JimBHibees]

Allan is a good signing. The type of player that excites me, and no doubt a great many others, is the type of striker that gets in about defenders and terrifies them. I am led to believe Hope is that kind of player. All I am saying. Just asking if anyone has any news on this.

Fair do's hope he signs.

[Unseen work]

getting very fed up of the speculation of this guy every day for the past month with nothing happening!

[BT58]

I thought Hope was out on loan last season

[Bristolhibby]

Does our loan toffee get unveiled or unwrapped?

I've heard the player we are looking to bring in is McCowan.

J

[Ronniekirk]

getting very fed up of the speculation of this guy every day for the past month with nothing happening!

Trust in The Cat he is sure he is coming

[Diclonius]

I've heard the player we are looking to bring in is McCowan.

J

No chance in hell he'll agree to come here, what with the George Street ban.

[manx hibee]

Trust in The Cat he is sure he is coming

I believe the cat is ITK !!!
So to hopefully back him up I have a friend who is ITK
At Goodison and he told me that 3 are coming up for 6/12 month
Loans as Martinez wants them to carry on they're development
Under the same coach AS
It does make sense really so here's hoping GGTTH

[Blaster]

I see Everton have just signed a defender from Mk dons

[manx hibee]

I see Everton have just signed a defender from Mk dons

Also looking at a new forward !!

[Ronniekirk]

I believe the cat is ITK !!!
So to hopefully back him up I have a friend who is ITK
At Goodison and he told me that 3 are coming up for 6/12 month
Loans as Martinez wants them to carry on they're development
Under the same coach AS
It does make sense really so here's hoping GGTTH

Stubbs continuing these players development makes perfect sense if Martinez rated Stubbs that highly so other English clubs offering to pay bigger percentage of players wage on loan might not interest Martinez, if so it will be down to players wanting to come north and reunite with old gaffer . Sounds a plan right enough

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Stubbs continuing these players development makes perfect sense if Martinez rated Stubbs that highly so other English clubs offering to pay bigger percentage of players wage on loan might not interest Martinez, if so it will be down to players wanting to come north and reunite with old gaffer . Sounds a plan right enough

The alternative could be more appealing to bill kenwright

Think he's tighter than rod

[Hibbyradge]

The alternative could be more appealing to bill kenwright

Think he's tighter than rod

When did Rod spend over £28m on one player?

[Ronniekirk]

The alternative could be more appealing to bill kenwright

Think he's tighter than rod

Well that's the plan backfired already if kenwrights s view prevails .Lets wait and see

[brog]

Everton U 21 played Leeds yesterday, Hope was not in squad. I wonder if AS went to Derby via Liverpool. I genuinely believe we'll see something happen this week.

[Diclonius]

I hope we can make this signing.

[Speedway]

I hope we can make this signing.

I know it's a pun but why is anyone getting excited about a striker who doesn't score?

[Lago]

I know it's a pun but why is anyone getting excited about a striker who doesn't score?
All beginning to sound a bit desperate now.

[Crazyhorse]

All beginning to sound a bit desperate now.

I'm already resigned to having a hopeless squad this season...

[YehButNoBut]

Hope is one of the subs for Everton in their friendly against Porto, just kicked off

Everton team (to play FC Porto): Howard, Hibbert, Baines, Jagielka, Alcaraz, McGeady, Naismith, Barry, Barkley, Osman ©, Pienaar

Everton subs (to play FC Porto): Robles, Distin, McCarthy, Besic, Stones, Kennedy, Lundstram, Duffy, McAleny, Browning, Hope, Long.

[Keith_M]

I know it's a pun but why is anyone getting excited about a striker who doesn't score?


Because we've had nothing much to get excited about. We only have 18 first-team players, almost all of whom helped us get relegated last season.

We have only signed four so far (excluding a 40 y/o player coach), only one of whom could be considered as a proven, experienced player. At this moment, we'd welcome just about anybody.

If that sounds negative, it's merely my assesment of our current squad. We do not have the kind of quality in depth that a club needs to compete throughout the season and I think, in our current state, injuries and suspensions will kill us.

[California-Hibs]

I know it's a pun but why is anyone getting excited about a striker who doesn't score?

Who doesn't score?

5 in 7 for Bury
1 in 3 for Northampton
12 in 17 for England under 17
2 in 2 for England under 18
2 in 6 for England under 19

Not to mention whatever his scoring stats are for the Everton reserves.

Really don't understand your comment, unless I've completely missed the irony?

Sounds like he could be a very good signing. Plus having seen a few clips of him on the net, the boy has undoubted ability and can certainly finish!

[sahib]

Who doesn't score?

5 in 7 for Bury
1 in 3 for Northampton
12 in 17 for England under 17
2 in 2 for England under 18
2 in 6 for England under 19

Not to mention whatever his scoring stats are for the Everton reserves.

Really don't understand your comment, unless I've completely missed the irony?

Sounds like he could be a very good signing. Plus having seen a few clips of him on the net, the boy has undoubted ability and can certainly finish!

"Posters who use actual facts or reasoned online posting with the aim of defeating spurious assertions and generally come over as a smart ass, may have their posting rights removed."

I'd watch out if I was you matey.:wink:

[bingo70]

He'll no be signing imo.

We're likely to get someone further down the pecking order and earlier in their development imo.

Think I've said this before but I'm bored and nothing else happening so feel free to use appropriate smilie.

[California-Hibs]

"Posters who use actual facts or reasoned online posting with the aim of defeating spurious assertions and generally come over as a smart ass, may have their posting rights removed."

I'd watch out if I was you matey.:wink:

Right, settle down Andy Gillies! ;) Haha.

[Borderhibbie76]

Came on for Everton today I doubt we will be seeing him tbh...

[HibbyAndy]

Came on for Everton today I doubt we will be seeing him tbh...

That will be that then.

[Speedway]

Who doesn't score?

5 in 7 for Bury
1 in 3 for Northampton
12 in 17 for England under 17
2 in 2 for England under 18
2 in 6 for England under 19

Not to mention whatever his scoring stats are for the Everton reserves.

Really don't understand your comment, unless I've completely missed the irony?

Sounds like he could be a very good signing. Plus having seen a few clips of him on the net, the boy has undoubted ability and can certainly finish!

He scored in his debut at Northampton and he got a Hat trick against Pompey as did James Collins as part of his whopping 10 match first team career.

So 6 goals in 10 games is also 4 in 9 at lower league level.

Hold me back.

An exciting signing would be one with a long track record who on paper would never come to Hibs not some untested kid for six months.

[HoboHarry]

He scored in his debut at Northampton and he got a Hat trick against Pompey as did James Collins as part of his whopping 10 match first team career.

So 6 goals in 10 games is also 4 in 9 at lower league level.

Hold me back.

An exciting signing would be one with a long track record who on paper would never come to Hibs not some untested kid for six months.
You might email LD or AS with your suggestions then .... :rolleyes:

[HibbyAndy]

He scored in his debut at Northampton and he got a Hat trick against Pompey as did James Collins as part of his whopping 10 match first team career.

So 6 goals in 10 games is also 4 in 9 at lower league level.

Hold me back.

An exciting signing would be one with a long track record who on paper would never come to Hibs not some untested kid for six months.



Fancy emailing LD then?..

[edwards]

Came on for Everton today I doubt we will be seeing him tbh...

That means nothing come the start of the season he will be right down the pecking order and spend most of the time in the stand, it would be better for him to be loaned out, possibly a better offer from england and not keen on coming to scotland.

[EvertonFC]

He scored in his debut at Northampton and he got a Hat trick against Pompey as did James Collins as part of his whopping 10 match first team career.

So 6 goals in 10 games is also 4 in 9 at lower league level.

Hold me back.

An exciting signing would be one with a long track record who on paper would never come to Hibs not some untested kid for six months.

Pretty sure I've seen enough of Hallam Hope to make an informed judgement on him.

I can't honestly say I've seen the Scottish Championship (if that's what it's called?) but I've seen plenty of SPL games last season. If he signs for Hibs I have absolutely no doubt he'd score plenty of goals in that division. He's scored plenty of goals for our reserves against better opponents than he'd face playing for Hibs, no offence.

[scoopyboy]

Pretty sure I've seen enough of Hallam Hope to make an informed judgement on him.

I can't honestly say I've seen the Scottish Championship (if that's what it's called?) but I've seen plenty of SPL games last season. If he signs for Hibs I have absolutely no doubt he'd score plenty of goals in that division. He's scored plenty of goals for our reserves against better opponents than he'd face playing for Hibs, no offence.

Do you think there's a chance he will come to Hibs?

[LeithBoozy]

Do you think there's a chance he will come to Hibs?

It would depend how much he liked Stubbs I would imagine and whether or not he fancies the challenge..

[edwards]

Pretty sure I've seen enough of Hallam Hope to make an informed judgement on him.

I can't honestly say I've seen the Scottish Championship (if that's what it's called?) but I've seen plenty of SPL games last season. If he signs for Hibs I have absolutely no doubt he'd score plenty of goals in that division. He's scored plenty of goals for our reserves against better opponents than he'd face playing for Hibs, no offence.

Cheers Everton there has been a lot of talk that Stubbs wants a couple of lads from your club and has stated he has had a talk with the manager. He appears to be interested [ from what we hear ] in Hope and Browning how much of that is true we are unsure.
Thanks for your input though. :wink:

[Speedway]

Pretty sure I've seen enough of Hallam Hope to make an informed judgement on him.

I can't honestly say I've seen the Scottish Championship (if that's what it's called?) but I've seen plenty of SPL games last season. If he signs for Hibs I have absolutely no doubt he'd score plenty of goals in that division. He's scored plenty of goals for our reserves against better opponents than he'd face playing for Hibs, no offence.

Absolutely none taken. Does he get in any service in the Toffees reserves?

[Speedway]

You might email LD or AS with your suggestions then .... :rolleyes:

Why?

[R11Loaded]

I've got two English friends who have warned me Hallam hope is their player and we aren't to touch him.

Funnily, one is a Rochdale fan the other is oxford. But they seem to rate him very highly

[EvertonFC]

Do you think there's a chance he will come to Hibs?

Yeah. He needs to play first team football so he will definitely go out on loan.

But I don't think there's any chance that Tyias Browning is going to be loaned out anywhere.

[EvertonFC]

Absolutely none taken. Does he get in any service in the Toffees reserves?

Of course. But it's all relative isn't it? He plays with better players than are currently at Hibs, but against better defenders then he'd face at Hibs.

[GlenrothesHibee]

Of course. But it's all relative isn't it? He plays with better players than are currently at Hibs, but against better defenders then he'd face at Hibs.

In the reserves? Ngoo was a goal machine for Liverpool reserves. Enough said.

[bigwheel]

Of course. But it's all relative isn't it? He plays with better players than are currently at Hibs, but against better defenders then he'd face at Hibs.

Some of the players will be better , many won't go on to have much of a senior career , even at our level - so I can't see how this point is true - out first team players will be more experienced and at least just as good as a lot of the players that he would come up against in reserve football down there

[NAE NOOKIE]

In the reserves? Ngoo was a goal machine for Liverpool reserves. Enough said.

Yeh ............ The lad Polson ( I think it was ) we got from Liverpool had captained their reserves as I recall and he turned out to be average at best. Being a hot shot in the EPL reserve league north or whatever it is doesn't guarantee you will be billy big baws when some gnarled auld centre half is kicking lumps out of you on a freezing night at Cowdenbeath.

[Springbank]

Then again for every victor palsson there's an Anthony stokes, who started at Falkirk as an arsenal reserve loanee

[NAE NOOKIE]

Then again for every victor palsson there's an Anthony stokes, who started at Falkirk as an arsenal reserve loanee

Think that's the point. Being decent at reserve level in a top league can indeed mean you are a very good player, but doesn't guarantee it.