Stop Faffing about ..name Stuart McCall as Boss!

[Moon unit]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!

[banarc7062]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!
They say it's all about opinions, however, i do not agree with yours.

[keep the faith]

It's not as easy as that mate. I still have real concerns around his haircut. It's just not hibs class.

[GlasgowHibee]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!


And what if he doesn't want to be Hibs boss, do we still just name him anyways?

:faf:

[nribs]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!

What Dutch route? Who's preffered option?

[scuttle]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!

Not going to happen IMHO. Looks like we are going down the cheap route with an other unproven manager with no track record, a risk we really cant take at the moment. We need someone to get us out of this league at the first attempt. Despite the initial optimism of LD the names being linked and the players deserve a second chance statement ,looks like we are reverting to type.

[franck sauzee]

What Dutch route? Who's preffered option?

Jimmy floyd hasselbaink

[nribs]

Jimmy floyd hasselbaink

So seriously that's the Dutch route JFH?. So him or McCall?

[Onion]

Not going to happen IMHO. Looks like we are going down the cheap route with an other unproven manager with no track record, a risk we really cant take at the moment. We need someone to get us out of this league at the first attempt. Despite the initial optimism of LD the names being linked and the players deserve a second chance statement ,looks like we are reverting to type.

I hope we get McCall but fear you might be right. The other reason for appointing an unproven manager is they are much less demanding when it comes to players and funds. McCall will want assurances that the Board will support his top player picks and show ambition beyond the Champ. An up and coming man will be grateful for the scraps of Petrie's table :wink:

[Hermit Crab]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!

Why him? Because of his record? Like butchers?

[SMAXXA]

I hope we get McCall but fear you might be right. The other reason for appointing an unproven manager is they are much less demanding when it comes to players and funds. McCall will want assurances that the Board will support his top player picks and show ambition beyond the Champ. An up and coming man will be grateful for the scraps of Petrie's table :wink:

Don't agree, I don't think the club can afford a less demanding manager as there's as much pressure on them getting it right and getting out this league as there ever has or will be IMO. They need the comfort that they are eye tying the very right person and not just the cheap option as you say. Plus butcher wasn't a cheap option.

[Turkish Green]

If we don't go the Dutch route...preferred option!
Name McCall as boss..we don't have time to fanny about...just do it!

Who died and made you king?

[SMAXXA]

Why him? Because of his record? Like butchers?

so in effect we are dammed if we do and dammed if we don't. Go with a proven experienced manager or a younger unproven less experienced......we as a club have proven neither can work if you appoint the wrong man.

[majorhibs]

Why him? Because of his record? Like butchers?

Were you not one of the very few butcher apologists wanting him to be given more time? Butcher was a dud before Hibs.

[Keith_M]

Jimmy floyd hasselbaink


How many Dutch Caps does he have?

[Scottie]

How many Dutch Caps does he have?
23 Dutch caps according to Wikipedia

[Keith_M]

23 Dutch caps according to Wikipedia


.....and how many times has he played for Holland?

[Thecat23]

Why him? Because of his record? Like butchers?

His record unlike TB is pretty good. Look at the league finishes and how he has well playing.

[Scottie]

.....and how many times has he played for Holland?
Trick question ?

according to Wikipedia JFH has played for Holland 23 times. Mind you he could have given a few away. :wink:

[Greenworld]

Of course we just name him nothing to do with him

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[MG1965]

Not going to happen IMHO. Looks like we are going down the cheap route with an other unproven manager with no track record, a risk we really cant take at the moment. We need someone to get us out of this league at the first attempt. Despite the initial optimism of LD the names being linked and the players deserve a second chance statement ,looks like we are reverting to type.

Totally back scuttle on this!!!

[Newcastlehibby]

Trick question ?

according to Wikipedia JFH has played for Holland 23 times

Whoosh. :greengrin

[Keith_M]

Trick question ?

according to Wikipedia JFH has played for Holland 23 times


Sorry, it's a really old joke....

Maybe you have to be my age to know the other meaning of Dutch Caps :greengrin



Whoosh. http://www.hibs.net/images/smilies/greengrin2.gif

Exactly! :greengrin

[CropleyWasGod]

Sorry, it's a really old joke....

Maybe you have to be my age to know the other meaning of Dutch Caps :greengrin






I heard that he once played in the Dalkon Shield.

[Scottie]

Sorry, it's a really old joke....

Maybe you have to be my age to know the other meaning of Dutch Caps :greengrin




Exactly! :greengrin


Whoosh. :greengrin
Whoosh.
You got me. Just google'd it. :aok:
Still sticking to my 23 ( a month ) :na na:

Must be a lot younger than you you auld bassa :greengrin

[HappyAsHellas]

We have a new CEO who is possibly wondering what the hell she has signed up for in coming to Hibs. It looks like she is taking her time to make sure she gets someone she can work with, and with a similar vision to bring the club forward. It may well be that we get an untried manager, but one who wants to concentrate on quality and youth - something most fans seem to agree with ( my opinion only ). I think she's making sure she gets it right at the first attempt, and if that takes an extra couple of days it's fine with me. I'm actually finding myself looking forward to the new season for a change. Blind optimism possibly, but calling everything penny pinching at this stage is just futile.

[blackpoolhibs]

Why him? Because of his record? Like butchers?

Someone posted his record at Motherwell is 6th 3rd 2nd and 2nd. Whats Butchers record in Scotland?

[Vini1875]

I, like many, don't believe it will be McCall. Possibly he might have come if we were still in the SPFL. Hibs in the championship may not be the challenge he is looking for. If he has taken Motherwell as far as he can, he will want to step up. My guess would be he is waiting for the huns or a job in England.

[Dan Sarf]

Someone posted his record at Motherwell is 6th 3rd 2nd and 2nd. Whats Butchers record in Scotland?


The Laughing Policeman?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Not going to happen IMHO. Looks like we are going down the cheap route with an other unproven manager with no track record, a risk we really cant take at the moment. We need someone to get us out of this league at the first attempt. Despite the initial optimism of LD the names being linked and the players deserve a second chance statement ,looks like we are reverting to type.

Like we did with Butcher? He cost a fair amount.

On the point about unproven managers:
Mowbray - relative success
Collins - cup success
Mixu (some experience) - relative success (top half table)
Hughes (experienced) - relative success (top half table)
Calderwood - good coach, bad manager
Fenlon (experienced)- proven in Ireland
Butcher (experienced) - proven with ICT

So we've had a mixed bag before of proven/unproven.

It's not an exact science!

[Sioux]

Not going to happen IMHO. Looks like we are going down the cheap route with an other unproven manager with no track record, a risk we really cant take at the moment. We need someone to get us out of this league at the first attempt. Despite the initial optimism of LD the names being linked and the players deserve a second chance statement ,looks like we are reverting to type.

Who is this manager that will get us out of the league at the first attempt?

[Keith_M]

Whoosh.
You got me. Just google'd it. :aok:
Still sticking to my 23 ( a month ) :na na:

Must be a lot younger than you you auld bassa :greengrin


Obviously


:greengrin

[Newcastlehibby]

Totally back scuttle on this!!!

What you do in your own time is entirely your business. :greengrin

[Gettin' Auld]

How many Dutch Caps does he have?

:tee hee:

[jdships]

They say it's all about opinions, however, i do not agree with yours.



:agree::agree::thumbsup:

[Moon unit]

It's not as easy as that mate. I still have real concerns around his haircut. It's just not hibs class.
Ha ha..Sure we could have a whip round for a cheap bowl from B & M's!..

[Moon unit]

What Dutch route? Who's preffered option?
A...Dutch route!,never said Hibs had one lined up, ....but a pound to a penny Dutch coaches could get more value out of East Mains with players than we have for the 7 years or so!

[nribs]

A...Dutch route!,never said Hibs had one lined up, ....but a pound to a penny Dutch coaches could get more value out of East Mains with players than we have for the 7 years or so!

So your preferred option. How about Spanish or German on Portuguese why just Dutch?

[CropleyWasGod]

A...Dutch route!,never said Hibs had one lined up, ....but a pound to a penny Dutch coaches could get more value out of East Mains with players than we have for the 7 years or so!

What's Edwin de Graaf up to these days?

[SanFranHibs]

I would be underwhelmed if we appointed McCaLL, Murray or Venus. Not sure why and I certainly have not really kept up with the latters recent employment history.

I have said all along I would like to appoint someone with no previous at ER....however I am backtracking but only because I have been trying to work out what, in my opinion, would be best to get back to the top tier where we belong AS SOON AS POSSIBLE . I keep coming back to McCleish and Mowbray, the former of the two being my first choice, only because he has done it before and showed great imagination in assembling his team. I also like the fact that they done well v Hearts and Mowbray certainly was not scared of either The Rangers or Hearts.

I appreciate circumstances are not exactly the same as last time but a one year contract perhaps with a further one year option and laced with incentives to get us promoted.

That is all I am really thinking of....how to get back up.

Of course, their willingness, budgets etc..and other factors but I feel we need to get up poste haste.

The clock is ticking LD.......are you going to suprise us????

[davidw]

It's not as easy as that mate. I still have real concerns around his haircut. It's just not hibs class.

And his accent. Really annoying and not Hibs class at all. Sort it out, Petrie (sorry, I mean Leeeeannnn)

[Hermit Crab]

Were you not one of the very few butcher apologists wanting him to be given more time? Butcher was a dud before Hibs.


Butcher apologist? He should have given more time time. How long will the new man get. 6 months a year?

[davidw]

It's not as easy as that mate. I still have real concerns around his haircut. It's just not hibs class.

And his accent. Really annoying and not Hibs class at all. Sort it out, Petrie (sorry, I mean Leeeeannnn)

[bingo70]

Butcher apologist? He should have given more time time. How long will the new man get. 6 months a year?

Depends if the new man does well, ok or has an absolute ****ing disaster of butcher proportions.

[blackpoolhibs]

Depends if the new man does well, ok or has an absolute ****ing disaster of butcher proportions.

:agree: Butcher was an absolute disaster for us, that mans tactics, substitutions and motivational skills relegated Hibs.

He should have been sacked weeks before he was, a complete disaster of an appointment by Petrie, but of course he's still hanging around giving off a bad smell. :rolleyes:

[bingo70]

:agree: Butcher was an absolute disaster for us, that mans tactics, substitutions and motivational skills relegated Hibs.

He should have been sacked weeks before he was, a complete disaster of an appointment by Petrie, but of course he's still hanging around giving off a bad smell. :rolleyes:

Yup, I'm all for giving a manager time, but there has to be some short term accountability for results.

To answer the earlier question I'd give the new manager next season to build a team and if we don't get promoted at the first time of asking then so be it. The following season I'd demand promotion or he'd be sacked.

That said though If we're hovering about the bottom half of the league come Christmas time unfortunately it's time to make another change.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Can folks please come up with another alternative to "underwhelmed" it's getting tedious. Must be close one of the most overused word in football.

I think we need a reality check - yes we want winners and deserve better than we've had but remember Aberdeen's wilderness years? We need to draw a line (yet again!!!!) and back the manager whomever they are.

[HibbyKeith]

Can folks please come up with another alternative to "underwhelmed" it's getting tedious.



Uninspired?

[tamig]

Still think McCall has found his perfect fit at M'well - similar to Butcher at ICT. I really don't know if he could do it elsewhere - especially here where the expectation is a bit higher. He took over Motherwell when they were in a decent state. The new man has to build us from scratch. I don't think McCall could do that.

[Moon unit]

So your preferred option. How about Spanish or German on Portuguese why just Dutch?
Due to their successful training techniques ,especially working with the young guys.
east mains could be a jewel of a place with the help of an experienced Dutch coaching team!

[johnrebus]

Due to their successful training techniques ,especially working with the young guys.
east mains could be a jewel of a place with the help of an experienced Dutch coaching team!

Foreign coach for me.

McCall is a Hun, just waiting for Sally to get bhis jotters.

[Lewis77]

Like we did with Butcher? He cost a fair amount.

On the point about unproven managers:
Mowbray - relative success
Collins - cup success
Mixu (some experience) - relative success (top half table)
Hughes (experienced) - relative success (top half table)
Calderwood - good coach, bad manager
Fenlon (experienced)- proven in Ireland
Butcher (experienced) - proven with ICT

So we've had a mixed bag before of proven/unproven.

It's not an exact science!

The problem we have is that we're trying to buy a porsche for £29 and a pack of polos'. Why not look towards South America or anywhere, why are we only looking in Scotland/Europe? We need to uncover something special but look like we'll end up with the same auld risk of a manager. I want someone who'll excite the club.

[monktonharp]

What's Edwin de Graaf up to these days?shuffling between box, to box as usual

[GlenrothesHibee]

:agree: Butcher was an absolute disaster for us, that mans tactics, substitutions and motivational skills relegated Hibs.

He should have been sacked weeks before he was, a complete disaster of an appointment by Petrie, but of course he's still hanging around giving off a bad smell. :rolleyes:

90% of Hibs fans were delighted with Butchers appointment

[heretoday]

And what if he doesn't want to be Hibs boss, do we still just name him anyways?

:faf:

Yes. He'll get used to the idea. Edinburgh is a much nicer place than Motherwell.

[nribs]

90% of Hibs fans were delighted with Butchers appointment

Depends who you ask as I have seen on hibs.net 90% 95% and 99% of hibs fans were delighted and wanted him as manager. Someone is telling porkies :)

[RIP Bestie]

90% of Hibs fans were delighted with Butchers appointment
And 98% were happy with his sacking

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

The problem we have is that we're trying to buy a porsche for £29 and a pack of polos'. Why not look towards South America or anywhere, why are we only looking in Scotland/Europe? We need to uncover something special but look like we'll end up with the same auld risk of a manager. I want someone who'll excite the club.

Anything outwith Europe becomes a potential issue for work permits, an added complication and one I'd imagine would not be in scope for the search.

[blackpoolhibs]

90% of Hibs fans were delighted with Butchers appointment

100% of Hibs fans don't appoint the manager, and are not accountable for their success or failures.