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16-06-2014, 08:00 AM
Chief Executive on way forward for Hibernian



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Islington Hibs
16-06-2014, 08:15 AM
Chief Executive on way forward for Hibernian



More... (http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20140616/leeann-outlines-football-plan_2262950_3908963)


Wholly positive. Nothing more to say really.

matty_f
16-06-2014, 08:23 AM
Seems entirely sensible and the right thing to do.

H13BYM
16-06-2014, 08:24 AM
:aok: :flag:

Hibby Gav
16-06-2014, 08:25 AM
good solid roots being laid down at last...

Spike Mandela
16-06-2014, 08:27 AM
All very worthy I'm sure but for God's sake will someone tell them to give us a ****ing decent team to support. That's all I want for my £400.

NadeAteMyLunch!
16-06-2014, 08:31 AM
Reckon she'll wipe the floor with McGivern the first time he's spotted rolling about George St after a defeat

Scorrie
16-06-2014, 08:35 AM
·         "Introduction of a holistic performance athlete development plan to support the physical development of our players."

Interesting. No more nights on the lash?

1875HFC
16-06-2014, 08:44 AM
Also thinking about our reputation as a club she plans to implement (what should be common sense to most people but unfortunately isn't as we have seen in the past) educating the youngsters on the appropriate ways to use various social media platforms such as Twitter etc!
She is taking a great attention to detail and is saying all the right things at this stage...things are looking positive IMO :thumbsup:

Now just to confirm ST prices etc so can get those bought!

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 09:17 AM
"...myself and George will be developing and writing..."

I despair, I truly, truly do.

Alex Trager
16-06-2014, 09:19 AM
"...myself and George will be developing and writing..."

I despair, I truly, truly do.

How so?

TRC
16-06-2014, 09:22 AM
It is a good sign when at board level they are trying in force the right attitude players signing will know its this way and won't sign if unwilling to follow the rules

Scotty-1875
16-06-2014, 09:24 AM
It might be useful to hire someone who can correctly format a list...

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 09:33 AM
I realise I run the risk of being called a nit-picker, but I don't like all the phrases starting "we need to..." and "we have to...".

If any of the previous board had said those things, they would be dismissed by many as platitudes. I'm not sure why it's different this time. Leeann is after all, a Petrie appointment.

Yes, we know we need to do all those things, we've known it for years.

I'd have been more impressed if we had heard definite commitments e.g.;

"we will get more kids playing football in Hibernian strips..."

"We will ensure that we have the best coaching syllabus..."

"we will ensure that measures are in place..."

"We will ensure all of our players understand..."

"We will also improve our Player identification..."

"the plan will ensure..."

But that probably says more about my line of work than the board's intentions. :wink:

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 09:34 AM
How so?

It should be "George and I..."

But I wasn't fully serious about the despair thing.

Alex Trager
16-06-2014, 09:37 AM
It should be "George and I..."

But I wasn't fully serious about the despair thing.

Ah. I see

Baader
16-06-2014, 09:49 AM
Reckon she'll wipe the floor with McGivern the first time he's spotted rolling about George St after a defeat

Hopefully not as hopefully he'll be offloaded to someone else by then...

Turkish Green
16-06-2014, 10:10 AM
It is all very well sorting out the grassroots and using The Spartans as a pathway for bringing on the future youth of the club. But where is the plan for getting the current 1st team out of the doldrums?

This plan reads like it was conceived while LD was still gainfully employed elsewhere, before the club won relegation and does not take account of the predicament the club currently finds itself.

Having a plan for the club's future is all well and good but if the now is not fixed then there is likely to be no future.

Look at me, I'm miserable now.




PETRIE OOT

Stoney Hibee
16-06-2014, 10:14 AM
All sounds really good and positive stuff to improve the club's status in the community and develop players in the long run, however the point to that is not mentioned is this - how is it going to be paid for in the short term?

Surely all funds in the short term needs to be focused on getting back to the top division in the first year?

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 10:57 AM
But where is the plan for getting the current 1st team out of the doldrums?





Just a speculative guess, but who knows, she might actually want the new manager to be involved in plans for the 1st team.

:dunno:

jacomo
16-06-2014, 11:06 AM
I realise I run the risk of being called a nit-picker, but I don't like all the phrases starting "we need to..." and "we have to...".

If any of the previous board had said those things, they would be dismissed by many as platitudes. I'm not sure why it's different this time. Leeann is after all, a Petrie appointment.

Yes, we know we need to do all those things, we've known it for years.

I'd have been more impressed if we had heard definite commitments e.g.;

"we will get more kids playing football in Hibernian strips..."

"We will ensure that we have the best coaching syllabus..."

"we will ensure that measures are in place..."

"We will ensure all of our players understand..."

"We will also improve our Player identification..."

"the plan will ensure..."

But that probably says more about my line of work than the board's intentions. :wink:

Fair points. Dempster Out, Hibbyradge In.

As for the substance of the plan, there's nothing revolutionary in there, but hopefully a renewed focus from senior management will make things happen. This club has underperformed for too long.

Col2
16-06-2014, 11:10 AM
All sounds really good and positive stuff to improve the club's status in the community and develop players in the long run, however the point to that is not mentioned is this - how is it going to be paid for in the short term?

Surely all funds in the short term needs to be focused on getting back to the top division in the first year?

LD has to try and focus on both short and long term. Its a very difficult juggling act but LD has already said we need to use our current resources better.

I think its a fantastic strategy and agree with every aspect.

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 11:12 AM
Fair points. Dempster Out, Hibbyradge In.



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GloryGlory
16-06-2014, 11:20 AM
Fair points. Dempster Out, Hibbyradge In.

As for the substance of the plan, there's nothing revolutionary in there, but hopefully a renewed focus from senior management will make things happen. This club has underperformed for too long.

I don't necessarily agree about nothing revolutionary. The mention of developing not only footballers but professional athletes with pace and power is what a lot of us expected to happen at EM from day 1. The antics of the players in George Street and its bars for years are certainly not the actions that real athletes engage in.

It will obviously be at least 6 or 7 years befoe we will see the benefit of a more holistic approach, as the article mentions the 8-11 age group as the first focus.

Lago
16-06-2014, 11:21 AM
I wondered how long before the knives would come out and our new CEO would become a target for the discontented.
Not as long as I thought based on the comments on various posts.

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 11:27 AM
I wondered how long before the knives would come out and our new CEO would become a target for the discontented.
Not as long as I thought based on the comments on various posts.

What knives?

Keith_M
16-06-2014, 11:31 AM
Attractive style of football as a requirement for all teams, from youth to adults, and aiding the transition of players from Youth Teams up to the First Team, so that we don't continually lose promising young players.

Surely nobody can argue with that as a worthwhile aim.

Keith_M
16-06-2014, 11:34 AM
"...myself and George will be developing and writing..."

I despair, I truly, truly do.

:agree:

It drives me nuts when going on holiday and the Reps, speaking to the holiday makers, use the word 'yourselves' instead of just 'you'.


Dempster Out, Petrie In!!

IanM
16-06-2014, 11:37 AM
We've all asked for more transparncy from the club and LD has clearly done that since she's joined

I know everyone wants the manager confirmed and signings made but whilst this is ongoing I think it's quite interesting to hear what else is happeneing

lucky
16-06-2014, 11:54 AM
I like what she is saying. Interestingly East Mains is now an academy not just a training centre. Also if all these things are so obvious why did it not happen under Petrie?

Fish
16-06-2014, 11:55 AM
Call me happy clapper if you like but I get this.

It is all about behaviour and it will apply to all players and coaches. It will be expected that senior players to behave responsible, train hard, mentor younger players and play to the best of ability and the younger players to observe how to act and behave and what it takes to make it into the first team. It should create an environment where ambition and drive can thrive. It also creates an environment where it is not possible top hide as it will be picked up on as it affects not just the individual and if you don't fit in, apply yourself and behave you know where the doors is.

This is not rocket science and it is not even new (well maybe at hibs) but it should hopefully start identifying and resolving that background issues at Easter Road that have haunted us over the last few years.

I'll now go back to being irreverent and strange.......

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 12:10 PM
I'll now go back to being irreverent and strange.......

Almost a return to childhood?

marinello59
16-06-2014, 12:48 PM
Fair points. Dempster Out, Hibbyradge In.

As for the substance of the plan, there's nothing revolutionary in there, but hopefully a renewed focus from senior management will make things happen. This club has underperformed for too long.

Revolutionary might be over stating it but this comment at the end jumped out at me.

"If we do that, all of these small things will add up to something very significant in terms of Hibernian developing better footballers, athletes and professionals."


There are echoes there of the British cycling teams incremental gains project. I like that sort of thinking.

Dashing Bob S
16-06-2014, 12:53 PM
Great thinking and utilising both the club and it's facilities in a way that ought to have been done years ago. Every time that woman makes a public utterance she illustrates what a waste of space and time Petrie is on the football side of things.

stokesmessiah
16-06-2014, 12:55 PM
I wondered how long before the knives would come out and our new CEO would become a target for the discontented.
Not as long as I thought based on the comments on various posts.

Eh.....What??

TheFamous1875
16-06-2014, 01:21 PM
I think Dempster is relishing in her opportunity at our club. The size of us and the potential we have is so far beyond the possibilities of Motherwell (with all due respect). She knows that there's a chance to revolutionise the Scottish game and knows Hibs are the forerunners to achieve it.

If all goes to plan, we should see youngsters who are technically gifted, strong, fast and determined with the work-rate and passion required to match to seamlessly make the transition from youth football into first team football, both playing the same brand of fast-paced, free-flowing attacking football.

We should have the club's values and it's history indoctrinated into the youngsters from the youth levels. They should know nothing more than Hibs.

From what Dempster achieved at Motherwell with their budget, potential and their market, I cannot begin to imagine what she can achieve at this club with the right attitude, the hard work and the intelligence and forward thin king ideas that she has displayed so brightly in her first fleeting weeks.


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SanFranHibs
16-06-2014, 01:30 PM
And it is good that someone is taking a longer view of our problems but the immediate problem needs to be resolved.

A good manager with sufficient funds to rebuild his team.

If we are going to endure a few more years of the utter garbage we have just been served then there will be very few around to witness any youth movement maturing into fine, professional 'I take my vitamins and protein' athletes.

Just get us some footballers now !!!!

I don't care if Sauzee was old, or Latapy went on the piss with Dwight Yorke, or George Best was dancing the lambada in a Rose Street club, or the only escort Riordan had was two doorman helping him out a west end bar...I just want good footballers.

I don't think our 'Golden Generation' needed the holistic approach and it is not as if Hibs had any intention of holding on to any of them anyhow. I don't care if our young players are in bed at 9:30pm and their mums only serve them fresh vegetables and top brand baked beans....if they are good enough they can make it...if not, they can be as fit as they like and they won't make it. We just won our EOS, the U20's had a great season and I am correct beat Celtic all three times we played them. Seems to me the only thing that prevented them breaking in to the first team was the first team manager did not think they were good enough or ready. Hibs can only help and develop the young players and I am sure they were 'coached' to a certain degree with regards to lifestyle but if they choose, especially after they have left Hibs, to screw up then there is little we can do except wish them well.

And please don't think I am trying to be overly pessimistic regarding this. Indeed I recently posted that slowly the anger was giving way to a growing optimism that LD might be able to revive our club somewhat. All I am really saying is fix the main problem first which is the first team and we know that it cannot be fixed overnight by taking the youth players rambling in the countryside or jogging twice round the Radical Road.

Maybe there are things happening that we don't know about and I don't just mean the search for a manager. Maybe STF has pumped in a little blood into our budget because we suddenly came up with enough cash for Dempster and Craig and we know that is not covered by not resigning several out of contract youths. Or maybe it anticipates RP's voluntary exit.

LD, just fix the first team, let GC do what he will and get a manager in with a remit to get us back to th eSPL as soon a s possible.

:flag:

Fish
16-06-2014, 01:34 PM
Almost a return to childhood?

Oh I wish.........

Northern Hibby
16-06-2014, 03:06 PM
LD has to try and focus on both short and long term. Its a very difficult juggling act but LD has already said we need to use our current resources better.

I think its a fantastic strategy and agree with every aspect.

Being proactive as well as reactive, is a fine balancing act, being reactive to our current position is needed, but we should not abandon the proactive side as this will enable us to avoid being in the same situation a few years down the line (ITIL v3):wink:

I get the feeling that, although we are actively seeking a manager as a priority, there are other things we can do whilst that is ongoing, things that a new manager would expect to be in place already “ you deal with the 1st team and we’ll keep up the supply of handpicked, young, talented, professional Footballers/athletes”

p.s.
Throw in a "this is why we hate the Jambos class"
fined for turnig up to training wearing THAT COLOUR!!

:yw: :lolyam:
:greengrin

Northern Hibby
16-06-2014, 04:21 PM
I don't think our 'Golden Generation' needed the holistic approach and it is not as if Hibs had any intention of holding on to any of them anyhow. I don't care if our young players are in bed at 9:30pm and their mums only serve them fresh vegetables and top brand baked beans....if they are good enough they can make it...if not, they can be as fit as they like and they won't make it.

How Many of our "golden generation" are still making it in football, yes they all undoubtedly had talent, but with a little more guidance/holistic approach they'd still be playing at the highest level, and although not for Hibs, I still get a wee kick out of seeing our ex players do well (unless against us :wink:)

Eyrie
16-06-2014, 08:26 PM
Almost a return to childhood?

Anyone else see that gig at the Hibs club?

Hibbyradge
16-06-2014, 09:17 PM
Anyone else see that gig at the Hibs club?

Yep. It was great.

Unseen work
16-06-2014, 09:28 PM
A major thing more me is that their looking more into sport science and gym work as I feel that's been the biggest problem with our youths as their all very skinny and weak

rcarter1
16-06-2014, 09:56 PM
Too many positive things in the statement to comment on. Deliver, and we are on the way to being a football club for the first time in….

SanFranHibs
16-06-2014, 10:07 PM
How Many of our "golden generation" are still making it in football, yes they all undoubtedly had talent, but with a little more guidance/holistic approach they'd still be playing at the highest level, and although not for Hibs, I still get a wee kick out of seeing our ex players do well (unless against us :wink:)

We can't say that for certain. Who knows what they would have done?

Indeed one might be just as well suppose that they might not even have made it if they were 'reined in' during their formative years. Who can say? I certainly can't. We can only go by what we have evidenced and that is with good coaches and first team manager the youngsters can take the path to the first team.

I do agree with you that it is good to see our ex players, whether through the youth ranks or not, doing well subsequent to leaving Hibs.

Onceinawhile
16-06-2014, 10:15 PM
I'm behind it. But does it need such a hipster name. Can it not just be footballers' development plan, not holistic something something something