Jorge Claros - Butcher ripped up pre contract?

[woodythehibee]

So says former scout David Henderson. Looks like Jorge was on his way back to Easter Road.

[cabbageandribs1875]

if TB done that i would have expected to have read something in the papers either from the the player himself or his agent

[SunshineOnLeith]

Twitter.

[Winston Ingram]

So says former scout David Henderson. Looks like Jorge was on his way back to Easter Road.

I can just Jorge fitting right in with the ball flying over his head and punting it in to the corners:greengrin

[Hibeesmad]

If this is true then Butcher has just got rid of what would probably have been the best centre midfielder in the Championship

[GGTTH07]

Raging of true.

[Winston Ingram]

If this is true then Butcher has just got rid of what would probably have been the best centre midfielder in the Championship

He's already done that with KT. Claros wouldn't work under Butcher. Think of the amount of sideways passes he made. Malpas would have him up against a wall in no time.:agree:

[dmc1875]

Surely not...

[MWHIBBIES]

Madness if true

[Bronson]

I don't want to believe that, but nothing surprises me right now with hibs.

What a f***ing mess.

[Billy Whizz]

When was he a available to sign this from January?

[Pretty Boy]

What's the Spanish for:

'Hoof it in the corners or **** off you ****'?

[The Green Goblin]

Again, a lot of people raging over a rumour and plenty stirring it right up rather than commenting on it. Take from that what you will. As for the overdramatic language, well, let's face it, we can all see Butcher, red faced, crazy-eyed, getting himself worked up at that piece of paper and attacking it with a might roar and "ripping it up" into a million pieces in a frenzied attack.....

As for me, I'll continue to feel positive about the LD interview and PB's meeting notes and that feeling it gave me that there's much more positive things already happening and about to happen at Hibs.

[HibsNutter]

Wasn't this the scout that was let go? Maybe he's bitter and is trying to stir things up?

[SteveHFC]

What's the Spanish for:

'Hoof it in the corners or **** off you ****'?

la ****** que ****:wink:

[lord bunberry]

Is anyone really surprised?

[Casper]

What's the Spanish for:

'Hoof it in the corners or **** off you ****'?

Pmsl 😄


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[truehibernian]

Any previous scout for Hibs should be keeping a very very very low profile :aok:

If there is anyone we should be delighted they are not at Hibs anymore it's this guy :agree::aok:

Bye Hendo...bye pal..........:na na:

[macd123]

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Again, a lot of people raging over a rumour and plenty stirring it right up rather than commenting on it. Take from that what you will. As for the overdramatic language, well, let's face it, we can all see Butcher, red faced, crazy-eyed, getting himself worked up at that piece of paper and attacking it with a might roar and "ripping it up" into a million pieces in a frenzied attack.....

As for me, I'll continue to feel positive about the LD interview and PB's meeting notes and that feeling it gave me that there's much more positive things already happening and about to happen at Hibs.

Dave henderson would know and it's consistent with the decisions on kt and taiwo and others.

[Hibiza]

butcher not confirmed as manager yet.

[The_Exile]

Gutted if true, even TB isn't that inept. More than likely a victim of cost cutting, pre contract would've been on SPL wages. If that is the case then I'm devastated as I would've loved the wee man back at ER. Apparentlh he and his family loved Edinburgh and the club.

[truehibernian]

Gutted if true, even TB isn't that inept. More than likely a victim of cost cutting, pre contract would've been on SPL wages. If that is the case then I'm devastated as I would've loved the wee man back at ER. Apparentlh he and his family loved Edinburgh and the club.

Read his thoughts and tweets - he rates Roy Keane as a manager (Sunderland, Ipswich) :faf: yet has digs at Butcher :aok: calls out Arsenal's poor injuries record (yet we had one of the worst injury records under Pat)......calls Celtic 'more than a club'.......etc etc etc.......

If I recall correctly it was Jorge's agent at this end that contacted Hibs when Rangers fell through........DH didn't even spot him......:cb

Plus he is mates with Clancy......which is more than enough evidence needed to hit the 'ignore' button :aok:

[Thecat23]

Claros Agent knows nothing of this deal that "supposedly ripped up."

So no idea where it came from but it's rubbish!!

[Winston Ingram]

Even if it was true what's the problem?

Does anybody actually believe Butcher would play him?

[Kaiser1962]

Claros Agent knows nothing of this deal that "supposedly ripped up."

So no idea where it came from but it's rubbish!!

Thanks TC

[Glorious St Pat]

If true, another example of poor management and not being able to spot a player. He would be the type of sitting and passing midfielder ideal to take us forward. Mind you I always say Thomson in that role but we all know where that ended up.

[Haymaker]

Claros Agent knows nothing of this deal that "supposedly ripped up."

So no idea where it came from but it's rubbish!!

... But does he know of a deal? :greengrin

[Beefster]

Wasn't this the scout that was let go? Maybe he's bitter and is trying to stir things up?

The guy's been stirring **** since he left Hibs.

[Kaiser1962]

The guy's been stirring **** since he left Hibs.

:agree:

There's also a few of us would have torn up Jorge himself after the 2012 final.

[The Leith Dutch]

What's the Spanish for:

'Hoof it in the corners or **** off you ****'?

Tragically enough hoofing it into the corners would have been a tactical improvement on hoofing it down the middle to watch James Collins lose out to a big centre half :(

[Paisley Hibby]

So says former scout David Henderson. Looks like Jorge was on his way back to Easter Road.

I smell *****

[Lucius Apuleius]

I sense another hibs net fact coming on.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Is anyone really surprised?

That people are stupid enough to see one post on Twitter and take it as gospel? Not really, sadly.

[SMAXXA]

I sense another hibs net fact coming on.

:greengrin Aye and he was on 150k a year agreed

[NAE NOOKIE]

When did this appear on twitter. It wouldn't be around the time that Claros came on for Honduras last night by any chance. Probably sitting watching the game and thought 'hey, this will be good for a laugh'

Its appropriate that the word Twitter has 4 very handy letters at the start.

[Thecat23]

Guys this really is 100% bull****. No idea why he's saying this but his agent knows nothing at all of it and Hibs haven't been in touch since Jorge left ER.

Seems to either be a wind up or just **** stirring.

[Jonnyboy]

Guys this really is 100% bull****. No idea why he's saying this but his agent knows nothing at all of it and Hibs haven't been in touch since Jorge left ER.

Seems to either be a wind up or just **** stirring.

This one gets my vote. Ex Hibs scout ......... so responsible for a fair amount of 5hite joining our club. In the words of MM ... **** off

[Bob Box Fish]

Claros was good, he was not great, neither was he consistent enough to make any fuss over.. . .

[we are hibs]

Claros was good, he was not great, neither was he consistent enough to make any fuss over.. . .


He really started to settle into life in Edinburgh and hibs when he was leaving and was starting to look like a good player for us. I think he may have looked better because he was playing alongside gary deegan for half a season though.

[Bronson]

Claros was good, he was not great, neither was he consistent enough to make any fuss over.. . .

He was superb in his second season, our best player outside Leigh Griffiths.

[Turkish Green]

la ****** que ****:wink:

What's Spanish for asterisk?

[HibbyKeith]

He was superb in his second season, our best player outside Leigh Griffiths.

Have to agree, I thought there was alot of positional play from Claros that stopped opposing players making passes that really went unseen. Like many players they need time at a new club, especially a player coming from different culture altogether. Once he settled in he would have been the 2nd name on my team sheet behind Griffiths. Would love to have him back.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Bocas abertas - para!

[SMAXXA]

What's Spanish for asterisk?

Asterisko

[Bronson]

Have to agree, I thought there was alot of positional play from Claros that stopped opposing players making passes that really went unseen. Like many players they need time at a new club, especially a player coming from different culture altogether. Once he settled in he would have been the 2nd name on my team sheet behind Griffiths. Would love to have him back.

He man-marked Gary Hooper beautifully in the 1-0 over Celtic at ER. Head and shoulders above the vast majority of midfielders in the Scottish Prem, nevermind Championship.

[hibbysam]

Claros was good, he was not great, neither was he consistent enough to make any fuss over.. . .

Is that some sort of a joke? If you had 4 names on a team sheet last season it would have been Williams, Hanlon, Claros and Griffiths. His tackling was superb, his passing was simple but allowed our game to flow a bit, no shock that we were so slow and laboured this year without him in the side under Fenlon! Him and Thomson as a two behind 3 attacking midfielders and a striker would have been immense to see... In the same mould as rankin and Paton at united but with more technical ability!

[woodythehibee]

That people are stupid enough to see one post on Twitter and take it as gospel? Not really, sadly.

So I'm stupid? I only posted something regarding our club from a former scout so worth the discussion to see how accurate it was. Nobody said it was gospel but when from a former employee it's worth consideration.

[Aldo]

I know who I'm going to believe when it comes to this and it's not twitter!!

[Bayern Bru]

I like the latest tweet.

:violin:

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[Viva_Palmeiras]

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[Iggy Pope]

He man-marked Gary Hooper beautifully in the 1-0 over Celtic at ER. Head and shoulders above the vast majority of midfielders in the Scottish Prem, nevermind Championship.

It took Hooper what, 10mins to finish the cup final as a contest?

[hibeeleicester]

Similar to what I heard at the time :agree:

Thought it was rubbish till now.

[edwards]

Never thought a lot of Claros until he was gone, jesus how we have missed him.



PETRIE OUT

[Callum_62]

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[Aldo]

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Indeed.

[Unseen work]

See on paper if we signed him we would of had a really good midfield IMO

Thomson Claros

Harris Craig. Stanton

Shame it wasn't to be

[Aldo]

See on paper if we signed him we would of had a really good midfield IMO Thomson Claros Harris Craig. Stanton Shame it wasn't to be

Claris once settled was immense for us. His performance at the PBS when we won 1-2 was excellent.

I personally would love him back!!

[SunshineOnLeith]

So I'm stupid? I only posted something regarding our club from a former scout so worth the discussion to see how accurate it was. Nobody said it was gospel but when from a former employee it's worth consideration.

1) The person I quoted immediately accepted it as true, to the extent they regarded it as depressingly unsurprising. That's a bit thick.

2) If you think it's true then at the very least you're extremely gullible.

[The Green Goblin]

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Definitely.

[0762]

Met Fenlon and his wonder scout ............ Fenlon came across as a nice wee guy who loved our Club, just a pity he wasn't very good at being a manager. The wonder scout!!!! This was the guy Fenlon sent to do the scouting on Malmo................. Thanks Dave. You did a great job there. Wouldn't trust him to give me directions to cross the road.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't like Butcher. But this boy has had a few cheap shots lately. On twitter. Top
pro eh. And a lot of it unfounded, like this.

[silverhibee]

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[MWHIBBIES]

Claros was good, he was not great, neither was he consistent enough to make any fuss over.. . .You say this but the fact our midfield done absolutely nothing without him and he will be going to the world cup proves it is pish. Claros was most certainly a great player for the SPL and would have absolutely strolled into any team outside of Celtic.

[truehibernian]

I think there should be a new twitter game - 'Ask Hendo' ?

I'll start......Hendo.....do you think it's right an SPL manager drinks regularly in a Morningside boozer with his assistant, almost daily ? Is this what professional top flight managers do ? You worked at Villa ? Did MON or Lambert do that ?

Also - what is it like being bitter and relying on social media to cling to so called pro footballers who will now never make it ?

Goalkeepers....football scouts.......:faf::faf::faf: aye okay then........:aok:

[truehibernian]

Ask Hendo.........'Hendo, what year will Tim Clancy be fit ?'

[truehibernian]

Aske Hendo.....'Hendo, you criticised Arsenal's injury record....who scored their winner in the FA Cup ?' (clue.....a player who came back from injury.....unlike a Hibs player......your mates stayed injured at Hibs)

[silverhibee]

I think there should be a new twitter game - 'Ask Hendo' ?

I'll start......Hendo.....do you think it's right an SPL manager drinks regularly in a Morningside boozer with his assistant, almost daily ? Is this what professional top flight managers do ? You worked at Villa ? Did MON or Lambert do that ?

Also - what is it like being bitter and relying on social media to cling to so called pro footballers who will now never make it ?

Goalkeepers....football scouts.......:faf::faf::faf: aye okay then........:aok:


:thumbsup:

But he was a nice guy seemingly, wonder if him and Liam have made up yet. :wink:

[truehibernian]

:thumbsup:

But he was a nice guy seemingly, wonder if him and Liam have made up yet. :wink:

Don't know SH, we'll need to 'Ask Hendo' :greengrin

And he wonders why there are a lot of 'ex Bohs, ex Hibs, ex Villa' :faf:

He still hasn't answered who he has scouted.............any mate of that chunt Clancy should be ridiculed.........Clancy quite simply is not a footballer........in years to come we will find out we were victims in a huge hoax footballer scam :greengrin:aok: Tim.....apparently you view this forum.....I can confirm, you are utter lilian gish and have a worse medical record than Dot Cotton.....and you can tweet all you like about boxing, yer still a sap :aok:

[beensaidbefore]

You say this but the fact our midfield done absolutely nothing without him and he will be going to the world cup proves it is pish. Claros was most certainly a great player for the SPL and would have absolutely strolled into any team outside of Celtic.

Spot on mate. Watching him last night made me proud that we even had a player of that quality playing for us. Especially given the rest of the dross he played with. Much has been made about the departure of Griffiths -and rightly so- but i suspect that part of the downfall should attributed to the loss him Claros and his composure and ability to take that extra touch.

Not hibs class for some mind!

[H18Y GW]

Spot on mate. Watching him last night made me proud that we even had a player of that quality playing for us. Especially given the rest of the dross he played with. Much has been made about the departure of Griffiths -and rightly so- but i suspect that part of the downfall should attributed to the loss him Claros and his composure and ability to take that extra touch.

Not hibs class for some mind!

I liked Claros especially his second season , BUT he was a negative midfielder who won the ball back and made lots of simple passes,lovely if your in a team to do it and it works.

The team that started and finished this season he would have looked lost , he never scored goals , he was never box to box, he never made passes inside full backs or CHs, .

He should be glad Fenlon saved his career and I'd guess Butcher wouldn't consider it never mind ripped it up as he didn't want a 17th midfielder in his 25 man squad

[patlowe]

I liked Claros especially his second season , BUT he was a negative midfielder who won the ball back and made lots of simple passes,lovely if your in a team to do it and it works.

The team that started and finished this season he would have looked lost , he never scored goals , he was never box to box, he never made passes inside full backs or CHs, .

He should be glad Fenlon saved his career and I'd guess Butcher wouldn't consider it never mind ripped it up as he didn't want a 17th midfielder in his 25 man squad

My mind must be playing tricks on me as, as well as being an excellent tackler and keeper of possession, I remember Claros being a really good playmaker in his second season - quick diagonal balls between the CH and FBs that Leigh was on to in a flash. I'll give you the lack of goals though.

IMO he was an absolute stand out that season. I honestly think people underrated him as a player because he ran funny :greengrin

[Paloschi]

What scares me is that this guy was our chief scout - no wonder we are in this mess.

He comes across as a bit of a weirdo on Twitter. I don't believe this story for a second as it would have came out from Claros' camp eventually. Just a bitter individual who wants a go at Butcher just like 'Thommo' McPake and Vine.

I'm so glad we are getting rid of all things rotten at Hibs. I believe Butcher and Malpas are more inept than anything but rotten as in the wrong attitude/culture.

[woodythehibee]

2) If you think it's true then at the very least you're extremely gullible.

Not gullible in the slightest. When it comes from a source like a former employee then it's worth a discussion.

[greenlex]

If not true.its a great bit of business.

[greenlex]

My mind must be playing tricks on me as, as well as being an excellent tackler and keeper of possession, I remember Claros being a really good playmaker in his second season - quick diagonal balls between the CH and FBs that Leigh was on to in a flash. I'll give you the lack of goals though.

IMO he was an absolute stand out that season. I honestly think people underrated him as a player because he ran funny :greengrin

His first season was a disaster. Better shot of him. Pardon the phrase .

[Broken Gnome]

Bit surprised we hadn't once been in touch since his loan ended.

Our array of central midfielders saw us in good stead at least.