Marsella as GK Coach.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

@dvehendo: When you replace a top quality GK coach with one whose nickname is Chicken Tikka Marsella, u are asking for trouble.

I see a few of the young boys in the Under 20's/EoS team are all agreeing to this.

Thoughs?

[Callum_62]

Thoughts are:

I didnt hear any complaints from Inverness

EVERY manager/coach we have its moan.whine/moan

Training is boring.....not up to date...hes crap...we work too hard....boo hoo hoo

**** OFF. The playing staff are a bunch of primadona waste of space losers

Thats my thoughts.

[matty_f]

Thoughts are:

I didnt hear any complaints from Inverness

EVERY manager/coach we have its moan.whine/moan

Training is boring.....not up to date...hes crap...we work too hard....boo hoo hoo

**** OFF. The playing staff are a bunch of primadona waste of space losers

Thats my thoughts.

:agree:

Wonder why ICT did better than us? Because their players did what they were asked to do without greeting about it to every man and his dug.

[Callum_62]

4 points over a few months is all we needed (or to score 1/not concede 2 to a championship side, at home over 90mins)

You shouldnt even need a manager to achieve that

Regardless how bad Butcher has been, the playing staff are entirely to blame. They thew in the towel months ago

Disgrace to the profession

[(((Fergus)))]

4 points over a few months is all we needed (or to score 1/not concede 2 to a championship side, at home over 90mins)

You shouldnt even need a manager to achieve that

Regardless how bad Butcher has been, the playing staff are entirely to blame. They thew in the towel months ago

Disgrace to the profession


The players have to do what the manager tells them or they get hooked/dropped. I'm sure left to their own devices they would have summoned up the will to get those 4 points.

[Weir7]

4 points over a few months is all we needed (or to score 1/not concede 2 to a championship side, at home over 90mins)

You shouldnt even need a manager to achieve that

Regardless how bad Butcher has been, the playing staff are entirely to blame. They thew in the towel months ago

Disgrace to the profession

Butchers tactics cost us the game

[Callum_62]

The players have to do what the manager tells them or they get hooked/dropped. I'm sure left to their own devices they would have summoned up the will to get those 4 points.

I dont believe that all all. I cant believe the players so rigidly follow the managers instructions

For me this is pretty much all on them

[jeffers]

Aaaw poor Terry, the players don't listen to me boo hoo. If yesterday's tactics are anything to go by I don't blame them. Let's invite pressure on ourselves by taking off a striker and put on a holding midfielder, leaving only a young laddie who was blowing through his erse up front on his own. Then when we lose the inevitable equaliser we are left holding on for penalties.

And now we're hearing he's going with youth next season. The same youth he gave little opportunity to this season.

[truehibernian]

Watch Marsella pre game and during it - sits there like a disinterested fat mess.

Actually personifies our club - a big, fat mess !

As for ex staff criticising the club it's a bit rich really - it's been a collective and cumulative catastrophe - nothing they did brought success so they I'm afraid should clamp it.

[Ronniekirk]

Butchers tactics cost us the game
What tactics we were reduced to running about like headless chickens chasing shadows No one else would have brought on Harris after Wednesday nights performance but T B did realised it was a mistake subbed him and denied us that extra pair of fresh legs that might have made the difference when trying to defend in extra time .
Any brief appearance by OTJ has added nothing but he comes on and ambles about .

Make no mistake this was one of the most inept performances of The season the lack of confidence was palpable ,it was as if mentally they had resigned themselves to defeat and after the first goal set up for them by Mcgiverns casualness and Nelson being worn out and turned too easily by an overweight 36 year old you could off written the script .
Against Motherwell in the three three game we lost a similar late goal ,all we had to do was pass it to players in green ,keep it simple along the back four and back to Williams but nobody wanted the ball and we resort to hoofing it away right back to them so they can start another attack .
We were outplayed by a team who believed and who were committed and played to their strengths and our weakness because they had a manager who clearly understands tactics.

I can accept getting beat by the better team,
what I find hard to accept was the way we meekly capitulated for most of the game We didn't even have a 15 minute spell in the whole game when we were on top and unlucky not to score .

[Callum_62]

Aaaw poor Terry, the players don't listen to me boo hoo. If yesterday's tactics are anything to go by I don't blame them. Let's invite pressure on ourselves by taking off a striker and put on a holding midfielder, leaving only a young laddie who was blowing through his erse up front on his own. Then when we lose the inevitable equaliser we are left holding on for penalties.

And now we're hearing he's going with youth next season. The same youth he gave little opportunity to this season.

Thats my point - whether they listen or not - collectively they SHOULD have had enough about them to pick up a couple of wins over 2 months

Even if lacking in quality, determination and drive in that league would see you pick up a few wins (see Hearts)

Based on that, blame is solely at the players doors for, AGAIN, throwing the toys out the pram

[Pretty Boy]

At least 2 managers have uttered words to the effect that the Hibs players don't listen.

There is something poisonous at both the club and in the dressing room that runs far deeper than Butcher and have transferred between different sets of players.

I'm not excusing Butcher, he has to take a huge share of the responsibility, but we have a shower of prima donna losers as players who have rocked up at ER expecting a bit of the good life. They saw off one manager and tried to, and may yet, see of another.

Conplete clear out required, no more cosmetic changes. Weed out every last ersehole in that dressing room who isn't willing to run through walls for the manager and fans.

[Callum_62]

I can accept getting beat by the better team,
what I find hard to accept was the way we meekly capitulated for most of the game We didn't even have a 15 minute spell in the whole game when we were on top and unlucky not to score .

We were actually fortunate not to loose the whole tie over the 90mins

We also had a very fortunate decision in our favour, where McGivern should have been sent off for a last man foul on Scotland

We had no leaders out there at all

[Ronniekirk]

Aaaw poor Terry, the players don't listen to me boo hoo. If yesterday's tactics are anything to go by I don't blame them. Let's invite pressure on ourselves by taking off a striker and put on a holding midfielder, leaving only a young laddie who was blowing through his erse up front on his own. Then when we lose the inevitable equaliser we are left holding on for penalties.

And now we're hearing he's going with youth next season. The same youth he gave little opportunity to this season.

Going with youth because we are skint , but based on how he has miss managed Harris and played Stanton week in week out when he needed a rest you couldn't trust T B to motivate them and coach them properly .Some of the under 20 s players must be wondering why they couldn't even get on the bench the past few months .

[matty_f]

At least 2 managers have uttered words to the effect that the Hibs players don't listen.

There is something poisonous at both the club and in the dressing room that runs far deeper than Butcher and have transferred between different sets of players.

I'm not excusing Butcher, he has to take a huge share of the responsibility, but we have a shower of prima donna losers as players who have rocked up at ER expecting a bit of the good life. They saw off one manager and tried to, and may yet, see of another.

Conplete clear out required, no more cosmetic changes. Weed out every last ersehole in that dressing room who isn't willing to run through walls for the manager and fans.

:top marks:

The players could have stepped up at any point to make a difference, but they didn't. They hid, they shat it, and they sent us down.

Butcher is culpable, as is Petrie, but the players are as much the villains of this piece as those two.

[truehibernian]

:top marks:

The players could have stepped up at any point to make a difference, but they didn't. They hid, they shat it, and they sent us down.

Butcher is culpable, as is Petrie, but the players are as much the villains of this piece as those two.

Michael Nelson v Jason Scotland - boy versus man :aok: both times completely turned and lost him, both punished severely. McGivern's 'pass' for the first - you rarely see that in Junior football let alone top flight. Scotland would have been a great addition to the squad, especially for the likes of Cummings and Caldwell. He's still a talented boy.

One thing that often puzzles me about Hibs players is that they lose the ball more under no pressure than they do when players harry them - watch both games and you'll see what I mean matty. McGivern being the worst culprit for me in recent weeks.

[dp00]

I would say that this is just an ex employee being bitter.... What does concern me is the players replying and retweeting

[Bearders]

:top marks:

The players could have stepped up at any point to make a difference, but they didn't. They hid, they shat it, and they sent us down.

Butcher is culpable, as is Petrie, but the players are as much the villains of this piece as those two.

None more so than Captain Craig. I've been watching this great Club since the mid 60"s and he is without any doubt the worst choice ever to have worn the armband............... my memory is not what it was so please correct me if i've missed someone out!

[matty_f]

I would say that this is just an ex employee being bitter.... What does concern me is the players replying and retweeting

Which players?

[Pretty Boy]

Which players?

Jay Doyle and Dougie Horne both replied.

Doyle said something along the lines of 'I think I took more sessions than he did'. Horne just agreed I think.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Which players?

Clancy too.

[Weir7]

Watch Marsella pre game and during it - sits there like a disinterested fat mess.

Actually personifies our club - a big, fat mess !

As for ex staff criticising the club it's a bit rich really - it's been a collective and cumulative catastrophe - nothing they did brought success so they I'm afraid should clamp it.
Build up to last derby grabbing Collins telling him hes sh*** and waste if a wage.

Great coaching that. NOT

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Build up to last derby grabbing Collins telling him hes sh*** and waste if a wage.

Great coaching that. NOT

Did he really say that?

[Pretty Boy]

Clancy too.

I'd ignore rent a gob Tim.

If he was as good at football as he is at having an opinion on everything he would be world class.

[Weir7]

Did he really say that?

Yes from what players and staff witnessed. . Physical grabbed him. Standard butcher tactics. Every one is shtie apary from him and fatso and back pass

People wonder why team is a shambles.

[Weir7]

I'd ignore rent a gob Tim.

If he was as good at football as he is at having an opinion on everything he would be world class.

Because he tells the truth. People need to man up. Club is a shambles because Clancy not at hibs dont make his opinion less valid.

[Pretty Boy]

Because he tells the truth. People need to man up. Club is a shambles because Clancy not at hibs dont make his opinion less valid.

Clancy had his chance at Hibs and after a promising start he was ****ing murder. That performance he produced in the semi final v Falkirk was one of the worst I've seen from a Hibs player.

We paid him a wage for months whilst he contributed nothing. He can **** off and do one as much as any of the rest of our players over the last few years as far as I'm concerned.

[Weir7]

Clancy had his chance at Hibs and after a promising start he was ****ing murder. That performance he produced in the semi final v Falkirk was one of the worst I've seen from a Hibs player.

We paid him a wage for months whilst he contributed nothing. He can **** off and do one as much as any of the rest of our players over the last few years as far as I'm concerned.
He wasn't fit. Good enough at mMotherwell to finish secind or third

[easty]

He wasn't fit. Good enough at mMotherwell to finish secind or third

Nelson was good enough at Killie to win the Scottish Cup. But that doesnt mean **** all either.

Clancy is a prick. And he's *****. And he can **** right off.

[Pretty Boy]

He wasn't fit. Good enough at mMotherwell to finish secind or third

He was never fit. Hibs provided treatment and paid him a wage whilst getting nothing in return. Fair enough that's why contracts exist but he loves having pot shots at us.

He should shut the **** up and enjoy his latest 6 month holiday.

I don't care what he done at Motherwell or anywhere else. He comes across as a total gob*****.

[Weir7]

He was never fit. Hibs provided treatment and paid him a wage whilst getting nothing in return. Fair enough that's whu contracts exist but he loves having pot shots at us.

He should shut the **** up and enjoy his latest 6 month holiday.

Why should he cause you don't like what he says. Don't listen

[Bearders]

Build up to last derby grabbing Collins telling him hes sh*** and waste if a wage.

Great coaching that. NOT

The Fat Scout turns up at boys club games and openly asks how far can that keeper kick the ball. He is also regularly late for his specialised goalkeeper coaching sessions - probably waiting on someone to tie his laces. The fact that he has been made keeper coach reeks of padding out his scouting role to justify his wage.

[Kato]

Why should he cause you don't like what he says. Don't listen

He should shut-up because he's supposed to be a professional, the club nursed him through his injuries and he has nothing but bad things to say even though he was no-where to be found when he was needed.

A passenger, worse than a passenger given his mouthing off, a parasite.

[Ronniekirk]

The Fat Scout turns up at boys club games and openly asks how far can that keeper kick the ball. He is also regularly late for his specialised goalkeeper coaching sessions - probably waiting on someone to tie his laces. The fact that he has been made keeper coach reeks of padding out his scouting role to justify his wage.

Williams cited that he wasn't happy with coaching when Marsella came in and on basis of three loan signings he hasnt lived up to reputation so far but scouting players for the championship may be up his street , except up till recently he was scouting players for Higher league who now may not want to come so he will need to start over again .However I M sure TB saw this coming so hopefully he will have some targets lined up .

[The goalie]

The Fat Scout turns up at boys club games and openly asks how far can that keeper kick the ball. He is also regularly late for his specialised goalkeeper coaching sessions - probably waiting on someone to tie his laces. The fact that he has been made keeper coach reeks of padding out his scouting role to justify his wage.

This is incorrect. He has NEVER taken any academy sessions since he came, his view is it's nothing to do with me!
the last game Scott Thomson was employed at was Ross County away, ring any bells? Yes our last league win. When he was told to leave a number of others where told they would also be going at the end of the season.
this was the beginning of the end SM is a total fraud as a goalie coach, he may be a good scout but is not a patch on Thomo.
thomo was asked by Fenlon to find a goalie (first manager to do this I May ad) and he found Ben, the best we have had for a number of years.
thomo knew every goalie in the system, coached them every week did the assessments etc, none of the boys have ever met SM.

[Greenblood70]

This is incorrect. He has NEVER taken any academy sessions since he came, his view is it's nothing to do with me!
the last game Scott Thomson was employed at was Ross County away, ring any bells? Yes our last league win. When he was told to leave a number of others where told they would also be going at the end of the season.
this was the beginning of the end SM is a total fraud as a goalie coach, he may be a good scout but is not a patch on Thomo.
thomo was asked by Fenlon to find a goalie (first manager to do this I May ad) and he found Ben, the best we have had for a number of years.
thomo knew every goalie in the system, coached them every week did the assessments etc, none of the boys have ever met SM.

Doesn't surprise me it's my opinion that Butcher, Malpas and Marsella see this club as a gravy train and are completely out of their depth.


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[silverhibee]

@dvehendo: When you replace a top quality GK coach with one whose nickname is Chicken Tikka Marsella, u are asking for trouble.

I see a few of the young boys in the Under 20's/EoS team are all agreeing to this.

Thoughs?

Who is this person.?

[silverhibee]

4 points over a few months is all we needed (or to score 1/not concede 2 to a championship side, at home over 90mins)

You shouldnt even need a manager to achieve that

Regardless how bad Butcher has been, the playing staff are entirely to blame. They thew in the towel months ago

Disgrace to the profession

:agree:

[silverhibee]

:top marks:

The players could have stepped up at any point to make a difference, but they didn't. They hid, they shat it, and they sent us down.

Butcher is culpable, as is Petrie, but the players are as much the villains of this piece as those two.


Spot on Matty, bunch of losers that bottled it at every turn.

[eggbamyasi]

Thoughts are:

I didnt hear any complaints from Inverness

EVERY manager/coach we have its moan.whine/moan

Training is boring.....not up to date...hes crap...we work too hard....boo hoo hoo

**** OFF. The playing staff are a bunch of primadona waste of space losers

Thats my thoughts.

Agree 100%

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[silverhibee]

Build up to last derby grabbing Collins telling him hes sh*** and waste if a wage.

Great coaching that. NOT

Truth hurts sometimes.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Yes from what players and staff witnessed. . Physical grabbed him. Standard butcher tactics. Every one is shtie apary from him and fatso and back pass

People wonder why team is a shambles.


interesting, have any rumours ever surfaced from any ICT players accusing TB of ever beating any players up at that club ? i'm not doubting you, just curious


as for Marsella, i haven't a clue what his background is, has he ever been a GK

[Haymaker]

Who is this person.?


Ex footballer and Ex chief hibs scout apparently. Amongst many other things according to his twitter. A well employed man from the looks of things.

[truehibernian]

Truth hurts sometimes.

:faf:


True SH, true mate - James Collins is abysmal so it's restored my faith a little bit in Butcher.

In all seriousness, Butcher will go and Ian Murray and Jack Ross will come in - that's what I thought 2 weeks ago and I still think it now buddy.

[Bearders]

This is incorrect. He has NEVER taken any academy sessions since he came, his view is it's nothing to do with me!
the last game Scott Thomson was employed at was Ross County away, ring any bells? Yes our last league win. When he was told to leave a number of others where told they would also be going at the end of the season.
this was the beginning of the end SM is a total fraud as a goalie coach, he may be a good scout but is not a patch on Thomo.
thomo was asked by Fenlon to find a goalie (first manager to do this I May ad) and he found Ben, the best we have had for a number of years.
thomo knew every goalie in the system, coached them every week did the assessments etc, none of the boys have ever met SM.


I never said he had - it's boys club games away from EM.

[Beefster]

@dvehendo: When you replace a top quality GK coach with one whose nickname is Chicken Tikka Marsella, u are asking for trouble.

I see a few of the young boys in the Under 20's/EoS team are all agreeing to this.

Thoughs?


Jay Doyle and Dougie Horne both replied.

Doyle said something along the lines of 'I think I took more sessions than he did'. Horne just agreed I think.

A bit extreme but I'd sack any Under-20 player who publicly disses the club or the management. It's time to stamp down on this ***** and rid the club of anyone who doesn't want the best for it.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

A bit extreme but I'd sack any Under-20 player who publicly disses the club or the management. It's time to stamp down on this ***** and rid the club of anyone who doesn't want the best for it.

They left about a week ago mate.

[Beefster]

They left about a week ago mate.

Ah, that explains that then. Cheers.

[sbell1875]

I mind watching Marsella's "session" pre-match at St. Mirren a few weeks ago (post split) and it was abysmal.

It consisted of him getting the goalkeepers to see how far they could kick it and then for the period between this "drill" and shooting practice at the end he disappeared to the side of the pitch.

Williams, Murdoch & Grant were basically left themselves. How, at a top-flight professional club, can this be allowed to happen?

The man might be a very good scout (something we'll find out in the next 8-10 weeks) but as a GK coach he's a fraud in my eyes and we've ultimately paid the price for it.

Since Thomson left how many clean sheets did we keep? Off the top of my head I think it was 1, the 1st leg of the play-off.

That is shameful.

[silverhibee]

A bit extreme but I'd sack any Under-20 player who publicly disses the club or the management. It's time to stamp down on this ***** and rid the club of anyone who doesn't want the best for it.

:top marks Mr Beefster.