Beat County and we stay up

[Diclonius]

Simple as that.

[GreenLake]

Get it done Hibs.

[Gatecrasher]

C'mon Hibs!

[Bristolhibby]

So do listen to the game on BBC Scotland or have a media blackout and watch the game on Alba at 22:00?

Not sure my heart will take it any way.

Pleeeeeeese Hibs, cut out the early goals!

J

[Hermit Crab]

Bumper hibs crowd up there?

[DarrenSQH]

Can't wait to head up. Hope loads of hibs fans make the trip.

[Steve20]

Butcher has a good record against them.

We'll win.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Stanon's goal today could be HUGE. C'mon Hibs!!

[Onion]

We need to treat it like a play-off match and go for the win.

[emerald green]

I hope KT will be fit enough to play, but it didn't look too good when he came off. :pray:

[stoneyburn hibs]

So do listen to the game on BBC Scotland or have a media blackout and watch the game on Alba at 22:00?

Not sure my heart will take it any way.

Pleeeeeeese Hibs, cut out the early goals!

J

Bbc Scotland for me, couldnae wait it out.
Come on Hibs.

[hibsbollah]

We need to treat it like a play-off match and go for the win.

:agree: Start Watmore on one side, Harris on t'other and get right at them down the flanks.Craig moves to centre to replace Thomson. Simple :greengrin

[Pretty Boy]

Hopefully we take a big crowd up there.

Think I'll be toiling to make it but if I can then I'll be there. Huge game.

[GreenCastle]

A win would be massive.

we haven't won in 11 games..

Our last win was against County!!

We have played them 4 times this season willing 3 out of 4 including Scottish Cup game. Other game was a draw.

[RoxburghHibs]

Technically a draw would be enough as long as we are also above Partick come the weekend.

Ross County play Partick on the final day - so if they are both below us after the midweek games we are safe.

edit: Looking at the table if we were to draw against Ross C and Partick also drew away to Hearts (in mid-week) then we would be safe as long as we don't lose by 2 goals or more on Saturday.....

:greengrin

[KeithTheHibby]

:agree: Start Watmore on one side, Harris on t'other and get right at them down the flanks.Craig moves to centre to replace Thomson. Simple :greengrin

Harris doesn't deserve a jersey at the moment. Watmore did more in his time on the park than Harris did by a mile. We need fighters out there, unfortunately Harris does not have this in his locker.

[eastender1]

Technically a draw would be enough as long as we are also above Partick come the weekend.

Ross County play Partick on the final day - so if they are both below us after the midweek games we are safe.

edit: Looking at the table if we were to draw against Ross C and Partick also drew away to Hearts (in mid-week) then we would be safe as long as we don't lose by 2 goals or more on Saturday.....

:greengrin

Don't want to jinx us, but having both Ross County and Partick below us doesn't make us safe. What if they draw and we get nothing against Killie?

[AngusHibby]

Harris doesn't deserve a jersey at the moment. Watmore did more in his time on the park than Harris did by a mile. We need fighters out there, unfortunately Harris does not have this in his locker.
His performance in the Scottish Cup semi-final last year suggests otherwise. Definitely has a part to play

[Hibernia Na Eir]

A win would be massive.

we haven't won in 11 games..

Our last win was against County!!

We have played them 4 times this season willing 3 out of 4 including Scottish Cup game. Other game was a draw.

Somehow, TB seems to have the better of Ross County. Let's hope it continues.

[hibsbollah]

On the other hand, if we lose our last two, its almost certainly the playoff.

[RoxburghHibs]

Don't want to jinx us, but having both Ross County and Partick below us doesn't make us safe. What if they draw and we get nothing against Killie?

If we lose by one goal to Killie then we finish above Partick in that scenario :thumbsup:. As I said as long as we dont lose by 2 goals or more we would be safe (if both our game and the Partick game finish level in midweek)

[DAVE1875]

After a Yam win tomorrow. A win in Dingwall and hopefully wins for the Yams again & St Mirren on Wednesday will guarantee our safety


Come on Hibs

:flag:

[RoxburghHibs]

After a Yam win tomorrow. A win in Dingwall and hopefully wins for the Yams again & St Mirren on Wednesday will guarantee our safety


Come on Hibs

:flag:

If we win on Tuesday we are safe regardless of other results :thumbsup:

[chrisski33]

I dinnae wanna put a dampner on things but i cant see us winning at county

[Jonnyboy]

I dinnae wanna put a dampner on things but i cant see us winning at county

But you did anyway :greengrin

[chrisski33]

But you did anyway :greengrin

State the obvious

[GREEN WARLORD]

I dinnae wanna put a dampner on things but i cant see us winning at county
I can, we are their new bogey team :greengrin

[Mr White]

I can, we are their new bogey team :greengrin

:agree: played 4 won 3 drawn 1 lost 0 in all comps against them this season.

[Jonnyboy]

State the obvious

Indeed

[Hibeesmad]

Win on Tuesday puts us 4 points in front of county with a game to play, which means we stay up. Come on the cabbage.

Don't know about anyone else but I would love to send Kilmarnock into the play offs next Saturday if they are still in the position to be put in it.

Ideally though I'd like to see Ross County be put into the play offs and sent down, hate the club, the manager and mostly the long trip to get there!

[weonlywon6-2]

I have a feeling killie will win today.lets not forget the jambos are still pants and killie have something to fight for

[bod]

His performance in the Scottish Cup semi-final last year suggests otherwise. Definitely has a part to play

& he's been living off that 1 performance since

[lucky]

The Yams are desperate to win today to get above us with the points won.

[green day]

Killie win, they go to eighth.

Doesn't change the requirement to win in dingwall.

What we can't afford is to lose and need to go to final game.......that would be pantwetting time.

[Tyler Durden]

& he's been living off that 1 performance since

Nonsense.

Watmore was no better than him this week or last either.

[bod]

Nonsense.

Watmore was no better than him this week or last either.

I never mentioned Watmore.
Harris has never reproduced the form from last season, maybe his injury has something to do with it but to me he bricks it at every challenge, always cuts inside & rarely puts in a decent cross

[Tyler Durden]

Fair enough but you did suggest he was living off one game - that's a bit silly as he had many excellent performances last season. I'm sure he will recapture that form if we stick with him.

I hope people are a bit more forgiving when Stanton has a poor spell.

[bod]

hope so too, every player goes through a poor spell, just so happens that our lots are between August & May

[rcarter1]

Fair enough but you did suggest he was living off one game - that's a bit silly as he had many excellent performances last season. I'm sure he will recapture that form if we stick with him.

I hope people are a bit more forgiving when Stanton has a poor spell.

You mean like yesterday. Stanton had a pretty poor match, so big credit for being in the right place to get the goal. The crowd at times were moaning at him and Harris, but by and large I thought they both plugged away and kept trying to do good things.

[emerald green]

The Yams are desperate to win today to get above us with the points won.

I hope you're right, cos I'm not so sure they are really all that desperate to win. I don't believe many of them would lose a wink of sleep if by losing today it helps drag us down with them. Before anyone says it, I'm NOT suggesting they would deliberately go out to chuck the game.

[SaulGoodman]

I hope you're right, cos I'm not so sure they are really all that desperate to win. I don't believe many of them would lose a wink of sleep if by losing today it helps drag us down with them. Before anyone says it, I'm NOT suggesting they would deliberately go out to chuck the game.

Hearts losing won't drag us down with them. It's in our own hands now.

[#FromTheCapital]

I doubt that any professional footballers would try to lose a game just to harm their rivals chances of staying up. Some of the hearts fans probably won't care if they get beat today though, not that it matters - I'd be the same if the shoe was on the other foot.

[stevejordan]

Killie win, they go to eighth.

Doesn't change the requirement to win in dingwall.

What we can't afford is to lose and need to go to final game.......that would be pantwetting time.

I Had pedicted a win for us yesterday in the end we got a point the nightmare would be a loss to RC I Think Terry has the Indian sign over Ross County a win up at Dingwall and we are safe i think.

[emerald green]

Hearts losing won't drag us down with them. It's in our own hands now.

Sure, it won't literally drag us down with them, but Hearts losing won't help our situation. It will heap even more pressure on Hibs to get that win we desperately need.

[The Falcon]

Is there a reason that our game is on the Tuesday with the rest playing on Wednesday?

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Easier said than done.

Hearts have just pretty done us a favour here and we need to take advantage of that by winning on Tuesday.

[oconnors_strip]

Is there a reason that our game is on the Tuesday with the rest playing on Wednesday?

Hibs and ross county requested to change it so we have more time to recover and prepare for Saturdays game

[The Falcon]

Hibs and ross county requested to change it so we have more time to recover and prepare for Saturdays game

If we win it will prove to be an excellent decision. :cb

[Ronniekirk]

Hibs and ross county requested to change it so we have more time to recover and prepare for Saturdays game

So they obviously both expected to down there fighting it out .Gives Kilmarnock the advantage of knowing what they have to do on the Wednesday but would rather be in our position than killie
s .They seem to be finishing season same way they started it .Wonder if they have had to tell a number of players they can't keep them next season .

[duffers]

Providing Killie don't beat St Mirren by 5 or more goals, 2 draws would also be enough to keep us up I think

[Hibbyradge]

Providing Killie don't beat St Mirren by 5 or more goals, 2 draws would also be enough to keep us up I think

2 draws would keep us up whatever Killie do.

In fact, if there isn't a 5 goal swing on Tuesday, a loss against County and a draw against Killie would keep Hibs up.

[trev the hat]

According to the beeb Saints are now safe ?


The result also ensured St Mirren can no longer finish in 11th place and they will be playing Premiership football next season.

[dmc1875]

According to the beeb Saints are now safe ?


The result also ensured St Mirren can no longer finish in 11th place and they will be playing Premiership football next season.

They are :agree:

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

According to the beeb Saints are now safe ?


The result also ensured St Mirren can no longer finish in 11th place and they will be playing Premiership football next season.

They are !

[trev the hat]

They are :agree:


They are !

Ta :aok:

[KeithTheHibby]

His performance in the Scottish Cup semi-final last year suggests otherwise. Definitely has a part to play


He is living off that game, done very little since. I just don't think he has the heart for the battle. Whether that is to do with his injury I don't know however we need a team of fighters and Watmore offers more, simple as.

[rcarter1]

2 draws would keep us up whatever Killie do.

In fact, if there isn't a 5 goal swing on Tuesday, a loss against County and a draw against Killie would keep Hibs up.

If killie win 6-0 vs st mirren, 2 draws would get us and killie to 37 pts with advantage Killie?

[Hibbyradge]

If killie win 6-0 vs st mirren, 2 draws would get us and killie to 37 pts with advantage Killie?

Of course, you're right.

In fact, it would only need them to win by 5.

[Onion]

Maybe someone could summarise the permutations in one place, so we're all clear what a Hibs WLD on Tues and Sat means for us ?

[rcarter1]

Of course, you're right.

In fact, it would only need them to win by 5.

Just looked at our goals for record… :boo hoo:

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Anyone think that if we beat County that it will change peoples opinion of going to the Killie because we'll most likely be safe?

[StevieC]

In fact, if there isn't a 5 goal swing on Tuesday, a loss against County and a draw against Killie would keep Hibs up.

I don't think so. Killie could potentially be on 37 points and we'd only be on 36.
It's 2 draws or a win in either of the last two games.

[Peevemor]

Anyone think that if we beat County that it will change peoples opinion of going to the Killie because we'll most likely be safe?

We'd definitely be safe - 4pts ahead with one game remaining.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Aye, it's a huge game. I won't be able to make it, but will listen in. I don't suppose it's on the telly?

[ekhibee]

Win on Tuesday puts us 4 points in front of county with a game to play, which means we stay up. Come on the cabbage.

Don't know about anyone else but I would love to send Kilmarnock into the play offs next Saturday if they are still in the position to be put in it.

Ideally though I'd like to see Ross County be put into the play offs and sent down, hate the club, the manager and mostly the long trip to get there!
Adams is a tosser of the highest order and I'd love to see them go into the playoffs but Johnston is proving to be a **** manager in the SPFL so it looks like Killie to me.

[ekhibee]

relegation odds:

Killie 6/4
RC 9/5
Thistle 4/1
Hibs 9/2

with Paddy Power.
The odds seem to be for outright relegation, not just who ends up in the playoffs.

[Speedy]

2 draws would keep us up whatever Killie do.

In fact, if there isn't a 5 goal swing on Tuesday, a loss against County and a draw against Killie would keep Hibs up.

Don't think that's true...trying to get my head around it at the moment.

Edit: Definitely not true (although it would most likely keep us up).


2 draws gives up 37 points.
Killie would have 34 points and a game against St Mirren. 5 goal win would put them ahead
Ross County would have 35 points and a game against Partick
Partick would have 35 points and a game against Hearts (assuming Partick lose against Ross County)
St Mirren are already safe

[portycabbage]

Maybe someone could summarise the permutations in one place, so we're all clear what a Hibs WLD on Tues and Sat means for us ?

A) If Hibs win either game, we're safe (even if we lose or draw the other game)

B) If Hibs draw on Tuesday, we want
1) the Yams to beat Partick
and/or
2) Killie to lose to St Mirren.

This would leave us with either-
1) Partick and County both a point behind us. As they play each other on Saturday, only one could then overtake us if they don't draw. If they do draw, we need to only lose by 2 goals to Killie to be above Partick on goal difference. And if Partick lose to the Yams by 2 goals on Wednesday. then we can lose on Saturday by 3 and still be safe. So for every goal that Partick lose by to the Yams, we can afford an extra goal defeat to Killie (if we have taken a point against County).

and/or, 2) Killie 3 points behind us needing at least a 3 goal winning margin against us on Saturday. If they lose midweek by 2 or 3, then they need a 4 goal win against us. So for every 2 goals that Killie lose by to St Mirren, we can afford another goal defeat to Killie on Saturday (if we've got the draw against County).

So if we draw against County, and 1) and/or 2) happens the day after, we can lose by at least 2 goals on Saturday and still stay up.

If both Partick and Killie get draws midweek as well as us (ie 1 and 2 don't happen), then we can lose by 1 against Killie and still be safe. This is because we would be a goal better off than County and on the same points even if they drew with Partick. And if County beat Partick on Saturday, we can lose by a goal more to Killie, depending on how many County win by.

If both Partick and Killie win midweek (and we draw against county), then we can lose v Killie and still be safe, as long as Partick beat County. If County v Partick is a draw then we are still ahead of County on goal difference, provided we only lose by one v Killie.

C) If we lose to County and Partick and Killie win their games, we need to win on Saturday. But Killie need to win on Wednesday to be ahead of us by then, so then a point v them on Saturday would be enough. And if Partick drop points instead midweek, we could still pip them (at least on goal difference) instead, with a draw or narrow defeat v Killie - but this would require Partick to get one or no points over their 2 games.

I'm not sure if this is a summary, or if it's at all comprehensible, but my head's fried now.:faint:

[johnrebus]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

[Hibeesmad]

Or we could just keep it simple by beating Ross County and being automatically safe...

[SaulGoodman]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

:hilarious

[MSK]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.Jeezo ..your posts should come wi a public health warning !! :faint:

[Ronniekirk]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.
It's been a difficult time being a Hibby ,and a lot of our problems are self inflicted but in last two games we have deserved more out the game and we are going to have to come up with a performance again on Tuesday night to take something from game .if we do it will be because we Deserve it ,we haven't been getting rub of the green until that late equaliser on Saturday so hopefully it will turn for us now

[Pretty Boy]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

That's the spirit.

[Jones28]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

Go to bed

[Hibernia&Alba]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

Steady on, fella. We'll deserve to go down only if we finish eleventh and then lose the play off. It's a bad time, no question, and I'm also amongst the many who are really fed up, but let's hope we've hit the bottom and can start the long road back once survival is assured.

[Jonnyboy]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

Ach away and do some detecting

[CallumLaidlaw]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/05/zuve2u8a.jpg
Look at this possible outcome! Nerves central!!!

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

****in hell man :faf:

[Yuillsy]

Love all this hypothetical stuff, but the fact is we are a ****ing disgrace to the name Hibernian and deserve to go down.

We've not been in 11th position at all this season. We have been diabolical lately but our last 2 games have been an improvement despite not picking up full points. We'll see where we are on Saturday afternoon but I'm pretty confident we'll not be in the play-offs.

[stevejordan]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/05/zuve2u8a.jpg
Look at this possible outcome! Nerves central!!!

Is there a scenario we can loose both games and still avoid the play offs ?

[lugz]

Is there a scenario we can loose both games and still avoid the play offs ?

If Partick lost both games against county and ******

This would depend on us losing by less or same goals as them

[portycabbage]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/05/zuve2u8a.jpg
Look at this possible outcome! Nerves central!!!

We'd know after Wednesday (in that scenario) that only a 3 goal defeat to Killie would send us down, regardless of the other results on Saturday. Still, it would be better if we got the win on Tuesday!

[The Sea-gull]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/05/zuve2u8a.jpg
Look at this possible outcome! Nerves central!!!

This prompted me to look at the real table and (despite the criticism we, fans of other teams and the media give them) we have the 6th best defensive record in the league.

Our goals for count is woeful so it is clear to see why we are where we are. Perhaps, if it wasn't for our overall reasonable defensive record, we would be talking about a last day scrap to avoid 12th place more than a play off fight.

That said, if we had a couple of goalscorers and creators we'd maybe be top 6 and certainly well clear of any relegation chat.

Not sure our defensive record would stand up well in the last 15 or so games though. The number of goals conseded is only better than the league average because of our defensive form earlier in the season.

Definitely the worst season for goal scoring I can recall but not the worst for goals lost.

[Nutmegged]

Im not so sure that our defense is the 6th best, yes we might have the 6th best record but I think thats more down to the set up in our formation, too many times we set up not tp lose rather than to try and win, if we were a bit more positive we'd probably have lost more goals but I also feel we might have won a few more points too boot

[Glory Lurker]

We're going to win tomorrow. Oh yes.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Have we sold out the away end? I see some folk are situated in the little stand on the left of the away end...

[dmc1875]

I know a fair few going up that wouldn't normally go to an away game. Expecting a decent crowd.

[Franck Stanton]

Aye, it's a huge game. I won't be able to make it, but will listen in. I don't suppose it's on the telly?

On Alba at 10.00pm mate

[Billy Whizz]

Have we sold out the away end? I see some folk are situated in the little stand on the left of the away end...

Sold out? Better not be, I'm getting my tickets at the ground

[Hermit Crab]

Have we sold out the away end? I see some folk are situated in the little stand on the left of the away end...


I hope not I've not had a chance to get a ticket!!!!

[Billy Whizz]

Just realised that if County beat us, they are safe as well
( sorry if its been covered elsewhere on this thread)

[Gatecrasher]

Just realised that if County beat us, they are safe as well
( sorry if its been covered elsewhere on this thread)
So if we lost tomorrow what do we hope for on Wednesday a killie and Partick loss?

[Billy Whizz]

So if we lies tomorrow what do we hope for on Wednesday a killie and Partick loss?

I presume so, so its in our own hands

[rcarter1]

The good news is that regardless of how bad things go midweek, we are guaranteed safety if we beat Killie.

[S4uzee]

Does anyone know if there are spare seats on supporters buses. I am looking for 2?

[Hibernia&Alba]

On Alba at 10.00pm mate

Cheers. I will listen on radio and then watch the delayed coverage if we get at least a draw!


Respect to the Hibees making the long journey on a Tuesday night, especially those who are working Wednesday. We mustn't lose this game.

[stevejordan]

Just realised that if County beat us, they are safe as well
( sorry if its been covered elsewhere on this thread)

jinx

[mutley]

Need to change this thread title to Beat Killie on Saturday and we stay up !