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CallumLaidlaw
28-04-2014, 11:08 PM
https://twitter.com/kenny_millar/status/460913785503772672


@Kenny_Millar: Hibs fans - see tomorrow's @scotsunsport for news of the best signing since Leigh Griffiths. A rare bit of good news for the club.

Probably end up being a sponsorship deal or something.

TowerHibs
28-04-2014, 11:10 PM
Another journo has said Karl Higginbotham was in the players lounge. Was that Jamie Borthwick so pinch of salt time

CB_NO3
28-04-2014, 11:10 PM
Interesting. Billy Mckay would be a good start.

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:11 PM
Kenny Miller finally returns :greengrin

Spike Mandela
28-04-2014, 11:11 PM
Wouldn't hold your breath.

CallumLaidlaw
28-04-2014, 11:12 PM
Interesting!

@Kenny_Millar: @laidlawjock @scotsunsport What I can say is that it's definitely not 'a sponsorship deal or something'. An exciting change of direction.

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:13 PM
Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 37s (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/460919407628525568) @laidlawjock (https://twitter.com/laidlawjock) @scotsunsport (https://twitter.com/scotsunsport) What I can say is that it's definitely not 'a sponsorship deal or something'. An exciting change of direction.

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hibeemikey21
28-04-2014, 11:14 PM
Interesting!

@Kenny_Millar: @laidlawjock @scotsunsport What I can say is that it's definitely not 'a sponsorship deal or something'. An exciting change of direction.

That doesnt sound like a player to me

Edit: Maybe a link-up with an English Prem club for loanees? Something that has been talked about in the past

Sir David Gray
28-04-2014, 11:14 PM
Last time Hibs announced something like this, it was something to do with Sunshine the Leith Lynx or something like that.

I'll wait and see what happens tomorrow before getting too excited.

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:14 PM
Petrie to step down.

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:14 PM
Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 48s (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/460919745731375104) @fnicolson (https://twitter.com/fnicolson) Kicks in on the 1st of June.

Boyd has signed a pre-contract :cb

Heisenberg
28-04-2014, 11:15 PM
Rod leaving?

Peevemor
28-04-2014, 11:15 PM
That doesnt sound like a player to me

It could be if he's any good.

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:16 PM
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@stuartstorar (https://twitter.com/stuartstorar) Nope! Something that I think might revolutionise the club. Or at the very least get the ball rolling.
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@richardwinton (https://twitter.com/richardwinton) @scotsunsport (https://twitter.com/scotsunsport) I did say 'good news'. Things aren't (quite) that bad.
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CB_NO3
28-04-2014, 11:17 PM
Greggs are taking over the catering. That would be great business :-)

silverhibee
28-04-2014, 11:17 PM
Petrie to step down.

That was my thinking too, but Rod wouldn't do a story with the Sun, maybe a takeover. :greengrin

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:18 PM
That was my thinking too, but Rod wouldn't do a story with the Sun, maybe a takeover. :greengrin

Really hope so because this club is on it's knees.

GreenCastle
28-04-2014, 11:18 PM
Says a signing?

Cant see see many players singing a pre-contract when they don't know what league we will be in. Especially a Thistle player when we play them this weekend!

A change of direction? :confused:

CallumLaidlaw
28-04-2014, 11:19 PM
@Kenny_Millar: @laidlawjock Personally speaking, think it's a brilliant move. If I was redrawing Hibs from scratch I'd have done the same thing.

Cool_Hand_Luke
28-04-2014, 11:20 PM
Interesting!

@Kenny_Millar: @laidlawjock @scotsunsport What I can say is that it's definitely not 'a sponsorship deal or something'. An exciting change of direction.

Killie are getting a points deduction and we will avoid the play offs :woohoo:

carnoustiehibee
28-04-2014, 11:20 PM
I think it's an ex player or famous fan welcomed on the board, like nevin or Stanton

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:20 PM
Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 3m (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/460920283659264000) @prydo14 (https://twitter.com/prydo14) @StevenHibs (https://twitter.com/StevenHibs) Signing. I don't know why anyone's suggested sponsorship.

Kenny Millar ‏@Kenny_Millar (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar) 3m (https://twitter.com/Kenny_Millar/status/460920463255166976)
@laidlawjock (https://twitter.com/laidlawjock) Personally speaking, think it's a brilliant move. If I was redrawing Hibs from scratch I'd have done the same thing.


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Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:20 PM
Director of football maybe?

Steven_Hibs
28-04-2014, 11:21 PM
Director of football maybe?

Yeah just seen this on twitter the now. Has to be!

And the director of Football is....... Rod Petrie :greengrin

silverhibee
28-04-2014, 11:21 PM
Groundsharing. :greengrin

carnoustiehibee
28-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Director of football maybe?

Yeah that's what I was meaning

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Yeah just seen this on twitter the now. Has to be!

That was me who asked it :D

JeMeSouviens
28-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Director of football maybe?

Was just about to say ... If it's a DoF I'm going to cry ... Presumably Kenny is too young to remember the Billy McNeill fortnight or however long it was ...

CallumLaidlaw
28-04-2014, 11:22 PM
Director of football maybe?

That's my thinking now. Starts 1st of June. Get the ball rolling to revolutionise the club. A fellow Hibee would do this if he was redrawing the club. DoF a good shout.

TheFamous1875
28-04-2014, 11:23 PM
Irvine Welsh was in town this week. Maybe he's the new director of football?


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Steven_Hibs
28-04-2014, 11:24 PM
New club store? Change of Direction! Moving to the corner of FF and the East? :greengrin

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:25 PM
New club store? Change of Direction! Moving to the corner of FF and the East? :greengrin

:greengrin

Just_Jimmy
28-04-2014, 11:26 PM
If it's the much coveted DOF and he's universally welcomed then is this part of rods five year plan? Does he get credit?


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silverhibee
28-04-2014, 11:26 PM
That's my thinking now. Starts 1st of June. Get the ball rolling to revolutionise the club. A fellow Hibee would do this if he was redrawing the club. DoF a good shout.

Strachan.

Would he be able to do the job.

chrisski33
28-04-2014, 11:27 PM
Franck sauzee as director of football?

Fat Penlon
28-04-2014, 11:27 PM
Lee Anne dempster chief exec at Motherwell taking over from Rod

Heisenberg
28-04-2014, 11:27 PM
If it's a DoF it might explain why Rod is happy to bugger off to the World Cup with the sfa during the summer?

SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:28 PM
Franck sauzee as director of football?

Hibs can have my season ticket money for the next 5 years if that happens :greengrin

carnoustiehibee
28-04-2014, 11:28 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Haymaker
28-04-2014, 11:31 PM
Holy ****, that's a great signing!

Just_Jimmy
28-04-2014, 11:32 PM
Good news if true. Removes Petrie and brings in a fresh face and someone who's been successful in the Scottish game in the same role.

Worth a shot anyway.


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JeMeSouviens
28-04-2014, 11:32 PM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Wow. End of the tache as chief exec and no DoF. Phew.

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:33 PM
Not being funny but unless Petrie removes himself altogether I'm not overly excited. Glad to get her but Petrie better keep his nose out.

silverhibee
28-04-2014, 11:34 PM
Seems like Rod will be stepping down from the club in the near future.

TheFamous1875
28-04-2014, 11:34 PM
So, is this happening?? If so, I am very excited! Motherwell are a well run club who get good players in and have finished second to Celtic the last two seasons!

GGTTH


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SteveHFC
28-04-2014, 11:39 PM
Seems like Rod will be stepping down from the club in the near future.

Hopefully :agree:

Waxy
28-04-2014, 11:40 PM
Very well done Hibs.

truehibernian
28-04-2014, 11:40 PM
Wonder where he got that idea.............................I'll dig out my posts :greengrin:cb :wink:

Sir David Gray
28-04-2014, 11:40 PM
Delighted with this news, if it's true.

It was time for Petrie to leave long ago and hopefully this move gives the club the fresh approach it so badly needs.

greenlex
28-04-2014, 11:41 PM
Holy ****, that's a great signing!

Can she score goals and defend set pieces better?

Haymaker
28-04-2014, 11:41 PM
Can she score goals and defend set pieces better?

Well Motherwell do!

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:43 PM
Wonder how Petrie's apologists will react to this? Everyone could see hibs needed change at boardroom level and he was our main problem.

truehibernian
28-04-2014, 11:46 PM
Wonder how Petrie's apologists will react to this? Everyone could see hibs needed change at boardroom level and he was our main problem.

Easy TC......he's still there, that's always going to be the issue. If LD comes, fantastic, but it's for me another act by Rod to placate.

I'll only be truly happy when he walks away fully, cash in his hand, out of Hibernian FC :aok:

The Harp
28-04-2014, 11:47 PM
Jings! Hope her experience of having dressed the deceased for burial in a funeral parlour didn't play a part in her proposed move to Hibs.:worried:

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:47 PM
Easy TC......he's still there, that's always going to be the issue. If LD comes, fantastic, but it's for me another act by Rod to placate.

I'll only be truly happy when he walks away fully, cash in his hand, out of Hibernian FC :aok:

Exactly what I said. I don't want someone just to come in and cover what he's doing I want change real change with him long gone.

truehibernian
28-04-2014, 11:49 PM
Exactly what I said. I don't want someone just to come in and cover what he's doing I want change real change with him long gone.

Sorry mate, wasn't meaning to misinterpret ya bud :aok: as you know, I agree with your about RP.......old news that one :greengrin

TheFamous1875
28-04-2014, 11:51 PM
Wonder how Petrie's apologists will react to this? Everyone could see hibs needed change at boardroom level and he was our main problem.

I think Petrie has outstayed his welcome to an extent. He achieved his goal of securing the clubs safety and building a secure infrastructure for the future about 6 years ago. The exact time that has coincided with our poor performances on the field.

We should be forever grateful for what Petrie has done for our club. It's just unfortunate that he couldn't move on before we had to suffer for what feels too long a time. The final piece of the puzzle was the East stand - and by that logic Petrie rightly should've stepped down in 2010.

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Lmc2105
28-04-2014, 11:51 PM
Wonder how Petrie's apologists will react to this? Everyone could see hibs needed change at boardroom level and he was our main problem.

As discussed mate I don't think it's to long before he leaves for good, Dempster is very good at what she does and she interacts with the fans on social media very much liked and respected, rod wants to concentrate on the SFA sooner rather than later of what I have been told he will be gone :greengrin:

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:53 PM
Sorry mate, wasn't meaning to misinterpret ya bud :aok: as you know, I agree with your about RP.......old news that one :greengrin

Sorry that came across wrong lol, I was meaning that's exactly what I was meaning too mate. Let's hope he finally leaves and Hibs can move forward together.

Thecat23
28-04-2014, 11:54 PM
As discussed mate I don't think it's to long before he leaves for good, Dempster is very good at what she does and she interacts with the fans on social media very much liked and respected, rod wants to concentrate on the SFA sooner rather than later of what I have been told he will be gone :greengrin:

Could be light at the end of a very long tunnel after all mate. This is good news and I'm sure she will connect with the fans much more than Rod has.

Spike Mandela
28-04-2014, 11:55 PM
Boardroom shuffles fail to get me excited really. It's just a change of face to do Sir Tom and Rod's bidding. Not sure how it makes the team better.

TheFamous1875
28-04-2014, 11:55 PM
Sorry that came across wrong lol, I was meaning that's exactly what I was meaning too mate. Let's hope he finally leaves and Hibs can move forward together.

If Petrie's not involved, do you reckon we've more of a chance of getting your pal Kenny on board at Hibs?


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Jim44
29-04-2014, 12:00 AM
Exactly what I said. I don't want someone just to come in and cover what he's doing I want change real change with him long gone.

Let's forget about nice stadium, great training facilities and comfortable book balancing. That get's you nowhere. Let's get a good team that excites the support and take it from there. A consistently successful team will take care of the crap that Petrie has hidden behind for years.

Hibernia&Alba
29-04-2014, 12:03 AM
If it's the end of Petrie, that's a positive for sure. I may be wrong, but I think Ms Dempster posts on Motherwell fans forums and chats directly with fans. Motherwell are well managed, and she must have been an important part of their progress. Hopefully she'll sort things out for us at the top.


Good luck to her on .net! :-D

Thecat23
29-04-2014, 12:04 AM
If Petrie's not involved, do you reckon we've more of a chance of getting your pal Kenny on board at Hibs?


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To be fair Petrie wasn't the problem there. Fenlon turned him down!

greenlex
29-04-2014, 12:05 AM
Wonder how much she is costing? She wont be doing it for nothing. Hope she delivers. Its was defo time.

Thecat23
29-04-2014, 12:06 AM
Boardroom shuffles fail to get me excited really. It's just a change of face to do Sir Tom and Rod's bidding. Not sure how it makes the team better.

Well she may not bill players who come over for a trial to start with!

monktonharp
29-04-2014, 12:12 AM
2 women in charge of senior Capital clubs! whatever next? I can see it now, a return to the auld style stairheid rammy. 2 auld burds, on opposite sides o' the stair railings, arms folded tightly, screaming abuse at each other! braw:greengrin

hibeeleicester
29-04-2014, 12:13 AM
What's her background? Is she a Hibby?

Hibernia&Alba
29-04-2014, 12:14 AM
2 women in charge of senior Capital clubs! whatever next? I can see it now, a return to the auld style stairheid rammy. 2 auld burds, on opposite sides o' the stair railings, arms folded tightly, screaming abuse at each other! braw:greengrin

That happens in the East Stand every game :-D

Jones28
29-04-2014, 12:15 AM
Petrie has achieved long term security for the club, terrific infrastructure and a lasting legacy off the pitch. He tealised his time was up and as his final act he has got the most dynamic and exciting chairs in Scottish football. Great move.

All of the above only applies if it's true of course :greengrin

VivaHiberña
29-04-2014, 12:23 AM
What's her background? Is she a Hibby?

Used to have a season ticket at Ibrox but is a through and through 'Well supporter now apparently. :stirrer:

Hibernia&Alba
29-04-2014, 12:24 AM
Used to have a season ticket at Ibrox but is a through and through 'Well supporter now apparently. :stirrer:

Dempster out :-D

Dunderhall
29-04-2014, 12:28 AM
What's her background? Is she a Hibby?
Some background info and her views on running a Club in a Herald article last July (http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/rejected-by-army-because-of-poor-eyesight-but-motherwell-chief-executive-leeann-dempster-has-vision-for-football.).

pretty sure Motherwell fans will be sorry to see her go.
There could be an element of good timing involved in this though, but should be a positive move IMO.

Centre Hawf
29-04-2014, 02:40 AM
Can she play up front?

Pete
29-04-2014, 02:57 AM
Let's forget about nice stadium, great training facilities and comfortable book balancing. That get's you nowhere. Let's get a good team that excites the support and take it from there.

I'm afraid you're about ten years too late with that post.:rolleyes:

It would still be wrong ten years ago. Infrastructure is essential if you want to grow as a club and attract top players, as is a modern, large stadium. Book balancing is essential in Scottish football nowadays and those who refused to reign in their spending have paid the price while those who continue to overspend will no doubt pay the price in the future.

Ignoring these things might get you somewhere in the short term but you'll end up worse off in the long term. It's been rough at times watching teams like hearts win trophies but they will have to find roughly £10 million for a main stand. Good luck, they'll need it.

It's been hard for the last seven years as the board have made mistakes with their appointments and corners have been cut financially. The trade off was that energy and resources were being diverted into other projects, like East mains and debt reduction...dirty, bean-county stuff that Petrie was good at. Somebody had to do it.

Maybe people are right that he outstayed his welcome slightly but I think this move proves that everyone inside the club realises that the dirty work is over and it's time to move onto the good stuff. I'll always be grateful to Rod Petrie for what he has achieved and it took guts to be the figurehead during a time when it was always going to be difficult. I think he genuinely cares and maybe that was part of the reason why things don't go to plan all the time. You might have the best intentions but you can't be a master of all trades.

I certainly wouldn't be up in arms if he were to remain at the club in some capacity as I think the energy and ideas will be coming from one area. Even if Petrie does leave then people are mistaken if they think any purse strings will be loosened. We don't take on debt any more and don't have anyone giving us money so "gambling" on players like Griffiths or Rooney with other peoples money because some fans think it's a good idea isn't going to start happening.

Regardless, this is good news as it will bring a new energy and freshness to the place. Exciting times undoubtedly lie ahead and it won't be long until this "smooth" we hear so much about will replace all this "rough" we have been experiencing.

Pete
29-04-2014, 02:59 AM
Can she play up front?

She's a centre-half to trade. Good distribution.

California-Hibs
29-04-2014, 03:15 AM
Fantastic news!! We have a lovely stadium along with a brilliant multi-million pound training academy, for this I thank Petrie, BUT the problems on the pitch (and off to a degree) have been an on going problem for years.

Welcome to the new chief executive Leeann Dempster. Finally a change at boardroom level that we've craved for years.

A new chapter in a hopefully better direction is about to now begin. I just pray we stay in the Premiership for it!

GreenLake
29-04-2014, 04:25 AM
I like her and am sure she will be a much more inspiring leader than petrie. :greengrin

ALF TUPPER
29-04-2014, 05:09 AM
Hmmmmm
Had she got a tache. If not, it'll never work .....

;)

ALF TUPPER
29-04-2014, 05:16 AM
Can she play up front?

Yeah!
It's says in reports she can "think out of the box". Hopefully in it too. Just what we need. :)

Greencore
29-04-2014, 05:17 AM
Do not see how this will make a difference. RP will still be at hibs, he doesn't need to leave he owns shares in hibs. also him and TF will still decide how much we have for players and what not. is this just a smoke screen?

SanFranHibs
29-04-2014, 05:22 AM
What's her background? Is she a Hibby?

much more importantly......is she a Riordan fan and does she think he could still do a job for us?

If not.......back through the west where she belongs !!!

:wink:

Geo_1875
29-04-2014, 05:23 AM
I hope those protesters from Sunday don't try to take credit for this move from Rod. This has obviously been on the go for some time and time will tell if it's good or bad. I just hope she gets to prove herself in the SPFL.

500miles
29-04-2014, 05:34 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

bingo70
29-04-2014, 05:35 AM
Wonder if this means butchers peg just got a bit shooglier.

Would always be a tough decision to replace another manager and admit another **** up but if this wifey enjoyed working with mccall and feels he'd do a better job i'd say its likely he could be our next manager, just a question of when its going to happen

SouthMoroccoStu
29-04-2014, 05:42 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

She certainly comes with excellent experience and pedigree

Welcome leeann

Peevemor
29-04-2014, 05:52 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

:top marks

Newhaven
29-04-2014, 06:06 AM
Does the story mention that rod will be 100% leaving or have we installed another level of management costing us more money?

Phoenix
29-04-2014, 06:07 AM
This?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

bingo70
29-04-2014, 06:19 AM
Does the story mention that rod will be 100% leaving or have we installed another level of management costing us more money?

If she's the heid honcho at 'well and gets to make real decisions she surely wouldnt join us to then have to run everything by rod

bawheid
29-04-2014, 06:25 AM
We're all missing the important issue here. Does she approve of Malpas's press-ups or not??

Beefster
29-04-2014, 06:31 AM
Do not see how this will make a difference. RP will still be at hibs, he doesn't need to leave he owns shares in hibs. also him and TF will still decide how much we have for players and what not. is this just a smoke screen?

I would assume that she's been given some assurances about the level of control she'll have, if she's agreed to leave Motherwell. Hopefully, Rodders (and the rest of the board) will give her the high-level stuff and let her get on with the detail.

Newhaven
29-04-2014, 06:33 AM
If she's the heid honcho at 'well and gets to make real decisions she surely wouldnt join us to then have to run everything by rod

You would hope so Bingo. Its just not mentioned in the story.

If Petrie wishes to seriously progress his SFA ambition then fine.

Winston Ingram
29-04-2014, 06:35 AM
Not being funny but unless Petrie removes himself altogether I'm not overly excited. Glad to get her but Petrie better keep his nose out.

Is this not technically the same role as Scott Lindsay?

Onion
29-04-2014, 06:36 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

What a crock of ****. Whether you like it or not, the Hibs Board is accountable for EVERYTHING that goes on at the club, All the players you mention have been signed as a direct or indirect result of the Board's decisions, usually the decision to sign very poor managers. It is high time, those in charge of the club took some responsibility for the string of dreadful decisions that has cost us millions, driven paying customers away and established a culture where mediocrity rules.

The one thing I do agree with is the poisonous atmosphere at Hibs. It is horrendous .... but due to the fans "sense of entitlement" ???

Forget smaller clubs being in the red. Forget spending to accumulate. All I ask is that Hibernian FC spend their disproportionately large budget wisely, drive benefit form their outstanding facilities and punch their weight. If that's having some kind of "sense of entitlement" then I can live with that.

Onion
29-04-2014, 06:47 AM
Until STF comes out in the press and "thanks Rod" for the many years of effort at Hibs and confirms he is leaving the club or at the very least restricting his role to FD, then I remain sceptical. I need the owner to explain WHY Dempster is being recruited, what's expected of her and how this changes strategy for the football club. With such a key change in any company, you'd expect the owner to issue a statement.

I really hope this has been driven by STF and not Petrie .... otherwise I fear it's just Petrie doing another knee-jerk deflection act to save his own arse. But he'll still call the shots.

Newhaven
29-04-2014, 06:48 AM
What a crock of ****. Whether you like it or not, the Hibs Board is accountable for EVERYTHING that goes on at the club, All the players you mention have been signed as a direct or indirect result of the Board's decisions, usually the decision to sign very poor managers. It is high time, those in charge of the club took some responsibility for the string of dreadful decisions that has cost us millions, driven paying customers away and established a culture where mediocrity rules.

The one thing I do agree with is the poisonous atmosphere at Hibs. It is horrendous .... but due to the fans "sense of entitlement" ???

Forget smaller clubs being in the red. Forget spending to accumulate. All I ask is that Hibernian FC spend their disproportionately large budget wisely, drive benefit form their outstanding facilities and punch their weight. If that's having some kind of "sense of entitlement" then I can live with that.

Great post onion.

The Gorf
29-04-2014, 06:49 AM
Petrie to step down.
Now your making me wet myself with excitement.

HFC 0-7
29-04-2014, 06:50 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

Kind of contradicts itself that statement! How do you know that all those players were first choice? Even if the manager said they were, I would take that with a pinch of salt. Wouldn't be the best if we got them in and the manager or chairman said, we tried but we could only get our second or third choice signings. I am pretty sure we have missed out on a lot of first choice signings.

does the very fact that dempster has been brought in not indicate that the club feel that something is missing at boardroom level?

Baldy Foghorn
29-04-2014, 06:55 AM
Positive news at last, Leeann Dempster has proven herself at Motherwell. Think RP will stand aside at end of season, happy news in my camp....

The Gorf
29-04-2014, 06:57 AM
Hibs can have my season ticket money for the next 5 years if that happens :greengrin
I am sure that we would see more of Frank if Rod went IMO.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
29-04-2014, 07:01 AM
Welcome Leeann!

Bye Petrie :bye:

scoopyboy
29-04-2014, 07:01 AM
Positive news at last, Leeann Dempster has proven herself at Motherwell. Think RP will stand aside at end of season, happy news in my camp....

You're camp??????

marleyhib
29-04-2014, 07:02 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Baldy Foghorn
29-04-2014, 07:13 AM
You're camp??????

Thought you knew Jock?

Simkin911
29-04-2014, 07:19 AM
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472943/EXCLUSIVE-Hibs-grab-Dempster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

'Petrie is a deeply unpopular figure with the majority of the Hibs support'.

I must be in a minority then.

johncrobertson@
29-04-2014, 07:23 AM
Eddie May?

Motherwell chief poised to take reins at Hibs
HIBERNIAN’S first major signing of the summer is set to be Motherwell’s chief executive Leeann Dempster.
The Fir Park supremo is tipped to take the same role as part of a major restructuring at the struggling Easter Road club.
Chairman Rod Petrie could also appoint a director of football and will try to lure former Hibs star Eddie May in to lead their youth set-up. (Daily Express)

John_the_angus_hibby
29-04-2014, 07:24 AM
There will be two certainties with this hire due to the level:

1) She would have asked, had a discussion and had assurances regarding responsibilities and authority ... Probably in writing
2) STF would have signed off on this and probably have been involved in the process with either a formal meeting or informal at the end...as this smacks as succession planning to me

I think this looks like a great decision. Petrie has done his job (stability and infrastructure), has run, to a degree, out of steam and can be argued is seemingly holding the team back. Leeann has been part of a team that has over achieved at a consistent rate over the last medium term...while we haven't.

I welcome this.


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leithsansiro
29-04-2014, 07:29 AM
Leanne Dempster may well be a good catalyst for change, and has done so at Motherwell. Look at these aspects of her current role, and think which ones Hibs are crying out for;


Recruited by the Chairman to fully restructure and modernise the football club. Direct responsibility for all employees including delivery of significant income growth, performance management, cost control, all aspects of HR, including training and stakeholder engagement programme.
I proposed the establishment of a Community Trust (full Charitable Status) for the football club and instigated a restructure of the Football Academy to develop talent and build value. I am currently focused on a transition of ownership of the football club from the single benefactor model to one of supporter ownership via an Industrial Provenance Society (which is now incorporated and is operational). I am responsible for all aspects of our football activity from our first team to the junior academy and I am the direct interface between club, manager, players and agents.
- taken from her LinkedIn profile

I'd be happy with all of that :)

Geo_1875
29-04-2014, 07:39 AM
Leanne Dempster may well be a good catalyst for change, and has done so at Motherwell. Look at these aspects of her current role, and think which ones Hibs are crying out for;


Recruited by the Chairman to fully restructure and modernise the football club. Direct responsibility for all employees including delivery of significant income growth, performance management, cost control, all aspects of HR, including training and stakeholder engagement programme.
I proposed the establishment of a Community Trust (full Charitable Status) for the football club and instigated a restructure of the Football Academy to develop talent and build value. I am currently focused on a transition of ownership of the football club from the single benefactor model to one of supporter ownership via an Industrial Provenance Society (which is now incorporated and is operational). I am responsible for all aspects of our football activity from our first team to the junior academy and I am the direct interface between club, manager, players and agents.
- taken from her LinkedIn profile

I'd be happy with all of that :)



I know many people on LinkedIn who are unrecognisable from their self-penned profile.

And according to her it's a race between Motherwell and Hertz to see who #createhistory by becoming fan owned.

The_Todd
29-04-2014, 07:50 AM
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20140429/dempster-to-become-chief-executive_2262950_3794155 - confirmed

Well that came out of nowhere. Exciting stuff.

Weir7
29-04-2014, 07:51 AM
https://twitter.com/kenny_millar/status/460913785503772672


@Kenny_Millar: Hibs fans - see tomorrow's @scotsunsport for news of the best signing since Leigh Griffiths. A rare bit of good news for the club.

Probably end up being a sponsorship deal or something.

First of many big moves ar ER. I believe new owner, re vamp if academy structure, new DoF, link up with Spartans.

Petrie could be around in name only so he keeps his SFA blazer.

Lets hope it comes to fruition.

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 08:02 AM
Interesting thread this with lots of good points made.

My reaction to this new is that it is positive to hear that the club are attempting to make a change at boardroom level and by the sounds of it a significant one. My only concern is that Petrie will still be pulling the strings behind the scenes with someone else fronting it out. I think he needs to leave the club completely and it is long overdue. I am heartened by the fact that it appears he will move on to the SFA and good luck to him but for me the time has come where he should have nothing more to do with Hibernian.

Whether he should take the bulk of the blame for the state of the club is open to question but in recent years we have made several changes at managerial and player level but he is a constant that has remained and while I think we have a lot to thank Rod for, just like managerial reigns and player careers, things can go stale at his level and it is just simply time for a clean break and to try something different. In most other organisations, if there had been the level of under performance there has been at Hibs then he would have been gone long ago.

Like any new signing, I don't get too excited one way or another until I see how things pan out but on the face of it, Motherwell have been a well run club in the last few years and had phenominal results in the league so Dempster's appointment would have to be seen as a positive. Not sure about this director of football stuff though. Don't think TB is the type of guy who would welcome this and I think he deserves the summer (provided we stay up) to have a mass clear out and really put his own stamp on things from top to bottom in terms of the first team. I'm not averse to shaking up the youth set up as, and time will tell with Stanton, Cummings, Forster, Harris et al, Steven Fletcher was the last real quality young player we produced and he left 5 years ago.

Ronniekirk
29-04-2014, 08:03 AM
Until STF comes out in the press and "thanks Rod" for the many years of effort at Hibs and confirms he is leaving the club or at the very least restricting his role to FD, then I remain sceptical. I need the owner to explain WHY Dempster is being recruited, what's expected of her and how this changes strategy for the football club. With such a key change in any company, you'd expect the owner to issue a statement.

I really hope this has been driven by STF and not Petrie .... otherwise I fear it's just Petrie doing another knee-jerk deflection act to save his own arse. But he'll still call the shots.
He has a habit of making change when he knows he is about to come under pressure.He protects his own interests .
He must know if we even end up in playoffs there will be more fans out side demanding change than there was last Saturday .

He has obviously had assurances of being groomed for post at SFA and we have said for a while now his focus can't be totally dedicated to Hibs yet to save money he takes on more duties and possibly this has led to us becoming more ineffective as a club .Hence Scouting System got into a mess if Fenlon was right about that .

He can see the writing is on the wall and wants to jump before we plummet to Championship .will be the Pessimists take on this .

Certainly Leanne Dempster has taken well as far as she can so it's a fresh challenge for her .

I always wondered if R P could work with T B if things started to go pear shape as don't see T B taking the rap and maybe that has also played a part .

But whatever the reason it's change and this Club does need fresh ideas and impetus .So let's embrace it .Where is Eddie May now at Falkirk ? Where they have brought through lots of young players and also brought in players from lower leagues in England and sold them on .if so that's same philosophy as T B

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 08:06 AM
First of many big moves ar ER. I believe new owner, re vamp if academy structure, new DoF, link up with Spartans.

Petrie could be around in name only so he keeps his SFA blazer.

Lets hope it comes to fruition.

As long as he is around in any capacity he'll still get the blame for everything by a lot of folk if things don't improve or whenever something goes wrong! Fair, no. Likely, yes. Time for him to sever all ties with Hibs.

Scorrie
29-04-2014, 08:08 AM
Eddie May is currently coaching Stirling Uni in the Lowland League / EOS. I think they won the Lowland league Cup vs Preston Athletic at the weekend. Could work well with James McD?

EuanH78
29-04-2014, 08:15 AM
There will be two certainties with this hire due to the level:

1) She would have asked, had a discussion and had assurances regarding responsibilities and authority ... Probably in writing
2) STF would have signed off on this and probably have been involved in the process with either a formal meeting or informal at the end...as this smacks as succession planning to me

I think this looks like a great decision. Petrie has done his job (stability and infrastructure), has run, to a degree, out of steam and can be argued is seemingly holding the team back. Leeann has been part of a team that has over achieved at a consistent rate over the last medium term...while we haven't.

I welcome this.


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I think you are spot on, I think most people realise that its time for change at boardroom level now, if not a little late. Fwiw I've been supportive of RP but think recently its time someone else took over to drive a new direction for hibs with the resources we have.
I think history will look kindly on RP though, when things start giing better on the pitch we will be able to appreciate all the work that was done off it. Just now its like having bought a nice house but not having any furniture.

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Thecat23
29-04-2014, 08:15 AM
So Petrie stays...... Whooooopy ****ing do!

Great to get someone like her in but until he walks completely I will not expect any real change.

The guy should just walk FFS and let others now move us forward. He's the grey cloud hanging over ER IMO.

mmmmhibby
29-04-2014, 08:17 AM
What a crock of ****. Whether you like it or not, the Hibs Board is accountable for EVERYTHING that goes on at the club, All the players you mention have been signed as a direct or indirect result of the Board's decisions, usually the decision to sign very poor managers. It is high time, those in charge of the club took some responsibility for the string of dreadful decisions that has cost us millions, driven paying customers away and established a culture where mediocrity rules.

The one thing I do agree with is the poisonous atmosphere at Hibs. It is horrendous .... but due to the fans "sense of entitlement" ???

Forget smaller clubs being in the red. Forget spending to accumulate. All I ask is that Hibernian FC spend their disproportionately large budget wisely, drive benefit form their outstanding facilities and punch their weight. If that's having some kind of "sense of entitlement" then I can live with that.

100% agree

offshorehibby
29-04-2014, 08:19 AM
First of many big moves ar ER. I believe new owner, re vamp if academy structure, new DoF, link up with Spartans.

Petrie could be around in name only so he keeps his SFA blazer.

Lets hope it comes to fruition.

Is this just wishful thinking or have you heard whispers.

cabbageandribs1875
29-04-2014, 08:25 AM
Petrie, who was the subject of a protest after last weekend’s derby defeat, is a deeply unpopular figure with the majority of the Hibs support after years of underachievement.



and to think the '15' that protested were ridiculed by some on here, although i'm sure the wheels were already in motion for a change maybe the '15' forced the wheels to go that little faster, you don't bring change by sitting in front of the tellybox :hi: protesting is what it's all about :greengrin

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 08:30 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

You make some decent points but for me the circle always takes us back to boardroom level.

We have under-performed because:-


The players we have signed are in most cases not good enough.
Our squads are not fit enough.
Our squads lack team spirit, heart, desire and bottle.
Numbers 1, 2 and 3 are largely down to the managers through a combo their own ineptitude and possibly a lack of financial support from the board.
The employing of inept managers is down to the board, as is the possible lack of financial support at times.


Also, unless you have insider knowledge of Hibs transfer dealings, I'm not sure how you know all of them were first choice signings but I agree most probably were. How many have been a success? This is down to poor managers being unable to get these players playing. These poor managers have been appointed by the board. All boards make mistakes but ours have made too many too often.

Don't agree with what you say about Calderwood. Most of us on here thought that losing him and getting some compo would have been a good thing. We should have cut our losses and I'm surprised Petrie didn't, especially when there was money to be made. IMHO it was his own stubborness that kept CC in a job. He didn't want the bad rep of yet another managerial change and didn't want to lose face after his public backing of him that summer.

IIRC we hadn't signed that many players when the rumours about CC (Sproule, G O'C, O Hanlon and Osbourn maybe?) being wanted down south were circulating and it was around early to mid July so we could have made some money, got a new man in and he would have still had time to make signings. The decision not to cash in on CC (who clearly wanted to go and from that point his heart was not in it) is easily the worst made during Petrie's tenure both from a football and a financial point of view. It's not like CC was super popular and he was holding on to him to appease fans. For me he put his own pride before the club.

OK, we would have then probably appointed Fenlon and I was no fan of his but who knows had he come in during a summer rather than after months of CC's mess then he might have done a bit better.

MyJo
29-04-2014, 08:32 AM
So Petrie stays...... Whooooopy ****ing do!

Great to get someone like her in but until he walks completely I will not expect any real change.

The guy should just walk FFS and let others now move us forward. He's the grey cloud hanging over ER IMO.

He owns 10% of the club and in order to be in with the SFA etc he needs to remain involved with the club so we will not be completely rid of him for a long while yet.......however, I genuinely think that Petrie is willing to release his grip on the reins at Easter road and he had already attempted to get Scott Lindsay in place to do this but that didn't work out and we have now recruited someone with experience in the job we need them to do so the club will be in safe hands when he takes a step back.

And the noises coming out just now suggest it's a complete overhaul of the clubs structure which is what a lot of us have been crying out for.

Brightside
29-04-2014, 08:44 AM
He owns 10% of the club and in order to be in with the SFA etc he needs to remain involved with the club so we will not be completely rid of him for a long while yet.......however, I genuinely think that Petrie is willing to release his grip on the reins at Easter road and he had already attempted to get Scott Lindsay in place to do this but that didn't work out and we have now recruited someone with experience in the job we need them to do so the club will be in safe hands when he takes a step back.

And the noises coming out just now suggest it's a complete overhaul of the clubs structure which is what a lot of us have been crying out for.

Make no mistake this woman is coming it to run the club both day to day and long term vision. Its a great signing by Hibs, and a nice parting gift from Petrie. He will no longer have a say in the day to day running of the club.

Weir7
29-04-2014, 08:47 AM
Make no mistake this woman is coming it to run the club both day to day and long term vision. Its a great signing by Hibs, and a nice parting gift from Petrie. He will no longer have a say in the day to day running of the club.

Has farmer told you this?

easty
29-04-2014, 08:51 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.

matty_f
29-04-2014, 08:59 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.
:agree: There will be folk telling us Petrie is running things from beyond the grave when that time eventually comes.

J-C
29-04-2014, 09:00 AM
Looks like a very good signing as long as Rod keeps his nose out of the day to day running of the club and allows her to do her job properly, only time will tell.

greenpaper55
29-04-2014, 09:00 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.

I'm a serial moaner because i care about the club, nothing more nothing less and i will not stop moaning until it's run in a proper manner, let's hope this appointment is the start of the good times.

Ozyhibby
29-04-2014, 09:01 AM
Is this just wishful thinking or have you heard wipers.

;-)

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 09:07 AM
:agree: There will be folk telling us Petrie is running things from beyond the grave when that time eventually comes.

Very good. I think it is reasonable for folk to be sceptical of his level of involvement whilst he still has any sort of role at the club. If this sort of change is occuring then it is a good time for him to sever all ties with Hibs.

MurrayfieldHibs
29-04-2014, 09:08 AM
I'm a serial moaner because i care about the club, nothing more nothing less and i will not stop moaning until it's run in a proper manner, let's hope this appointment is the start of the good times.

I was a complete moaner yesterday but this news has cheered me up. I expect Leeann will be a breath of fresh air in the club after Rod. She has come to an under performing club with all the infrastructure in place but it does not have a winning culture.

Welcome to the Hibees family Leeann :hibees

MurrayfieldHibs
29-04-2014, 09:10 AM
Very good. I think it is reasonable for folk to be sceptical of his level of involvement whilst he still has any sort of role at the club. If this sort of change is occuring then it is a good time for him to sever all ties with Hibs.


Rod is Tom's man and I suspect he will still be involved while Tom is involved.

Saorsa
29-04-2014, 09:15 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.What you mean people will continue tae post their opinions? I'm one who wants him out alltogheter, I dinnae trust him and I dinnae trust him no tae try and interfere while he remains there. I guess we'll see one way or the other when things either change or dinnae, then we'll all have an answer. I hope this is the answer tae a lot of our problems and that she will have the influence needed and winnae stand for any sort of interference. In the meantime I will continue post my opinions as I see fit within the rules of the board, if you dinnae like that you can what you can dae.... Also feel free tae use the ignore function that is available and then you'll no have tae read the serial moaners posts. :aok:

GlenrothesHibee
29-04-2014, 09:16 AM
Butcher - Manager
Dempster - CEO

Two appointments the vast majority of us were/are delighted about. Really looking forward to next season. Lets get over this line.

Jim44
29-04-2014, 09:20 AM
I'm afraid you're about ten years too late with that post.:rolleyes:

It would still be wrong ten years ago. Infrastructure is essential if you want to grow as a club and attract top players, as is a modern, large stadium. Book balancing is essential in Scottish football nowadays and those who refused to reign in their spending have paid the price while those who continue to overspend will no doubt pay the price in the future.

Ignoring these things might get you somewhere in the short term but you'll end up worse off in the long term. It's been rough at times watching teams like hearts win trophies but they will have to find roughly £10 million for a main stand. Good luck, they'll need it.

It's been hard for the last seven years as the board have made mistakes with their appointments and corners have been cut financially. The trade off was that energy and resources were being diverted into other projects, like East mains and debt reduction...dirty, bean-county stuff that Petrie was good at. Somebody had to do it.

Maybe people are right that he outstayed his welcome slightly but I think this move proves that everyone inside the club realises that the dirty work is over and it's time to move onto the good stuff. I'll always be grateful to Rod Petrie for what he has achieved and it took guts to be the figurehead during a time when it was always going to be difficult. I think he genuinely cares and maybe that was part of the reason why things don't go to plan all the time. You might have the best intentions but you can't be a master of all trades.

I certainly wouldn't be up in arms if he were to remain at the club in some capacity as I think the energy and ideas will be coming from one area. Even if Petrie does leave then people are mistaken if they think any purse strings will be loosened. We don't take on debt any more and don't have anyone giving us money so "gambling" on players like Griffiths or Rooney with other peoples money because some fans think it's a good idea isn't going to start happening.

Regardless, this is good news as it will bring a new energy and freshness to the place. Exciting times undoubtedly lie ahead and it won't be long until this "smooth" we hear so much about will replace all this "rough" we have been experiencing.


Phew. I stand corrected and have rinsed my mouth with carbolic soap. Now that I appreciate the wonderful legacy that Petrie has bestowed on us and we have a new guiding light to lead us out of the darkness, do you think it can be arranged for the smooth to start this weekend and last for at least three matches?

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29-04-2014, 09:25 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.


:agree: There will be folk telling us Petrie is running things from beyond the grave when that time eventually comes.


How many people with a good track record have come to the club over the past 8 years, only to crash and burn?

What I like is that after seven years of decline and fall under the dead hand of STF and the penny-pinching killjoy attitude of his bewhiskered Igor, there are still Pollyannas at the club ready to expect the absolute best whenever a new appointment's made - there's a definition of insanity lurking somewhere in my head here, but I just can't quite remember how it goes right now.

Experience tells me that if Leeann Dempster is working at ER with Igor looming in the background making sure she doesn't do anything he and his master disapprove of, not a lot will change. That's the experience of the last six managerial appointments.

I would have much preferred the announcement that LD was to become CEO with a new chairman taking over from Petrie to work with her.

And Petrie walking away. - completely.

That's not serial moaning. It's being realistic.

easty
29-04-2014, 09:30 AM
What you mean people will continue tae post their opinions? I'm one who wants him out alltogheter, I dinnae trust him and I dinnae trust him no tae try and interfere while he remains there. I guess we'll see one way or the other when things either change or dinnae, then we'll all have an answer. I hope this is the answer tae a lot of our problems and that she will have the influence needed and winnae stand for any sort of interference. In the meantime I will continue post my opinions as I see fit within the rules of the board, if you dinnae like that you can what you can dae.... Also feel free tae use the ignore function that is available and then you'll no have tae read the serial moaners posts. :aok:

I'm not saying people cant have their own opinion DD...but surely your point applies to yourself too. If you dont like what I'm saying than you can ignore it too.

I'm happy with the appointment we've made, and I'm going to try to see the positives in it rather than focus on the worst case scenario of Rod not letting her do the job she's here to do.

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29-04-2014, 09:34 AM
Phew. I stand corrected and have rinsed my mouth with carbolic soap. Now that I appreciate the wonderful legacy that Petrie has bestowed on us and we have a new guiding light to lead us out of the darkness, do you think it can be arranged for the smooth to start this weekend and last for at least three matches?


Yup.

Because if it doesn't Hibs will be the playing in a 21,000 seater stadium, training at a training centre equipped with all modern conveniences, and with an exemplary set of accounts to bring to the next AGM - in the Championship, against both sets of Huns, and likely struggling to avoid being there for at least one more season.

Which would possibly render this appointment, and all the jubilation among certain areas of the support this morning, entirely academic.

Because in that case, we'd be right and properly screwed.

We need to stay in the Premiership. Everything else depends on it.

cabbageandribs1875
29-04-2014, 09:36 AM
I'm afraid you're about ten years too late with that post.:rolleyes:

It would still be wrong ten years ago. Infrastructure is essential if you want to grow as a club and attract top players, as is a modern, large stadium. Book balancing is essential in Scottish football nowadays and those who refused to reign in their spending have paid the price while those who continue to overspend will no doubt pay the price in the future.

Ignoring these things might get you somewhere in the short term but you'll end up worse off in the long term. It's been rough at times watching teams like hearts win trophies but they will have to find roughly £10 million for a main stand. Good luck, they'll need it.

It's been hard for the last seven years as the board have made mistakes with their appointments and corners have been cut financially. The trade off was that energy and resources were being diverted into other projects, like East mains and debt reduction...dirty, bean-county stuff that Petrie was good at. Somebody had to do it.

Maybe people are right that he outstayed his welcome slightly but I think this move proves that everyone inside the club realises that the dirty work is over and it's time to move onto the good stuff. I'll always be grateful to Rod Petrie for what he has achieved and it took guts to be the figurehead during a time when it was always going to be difficult. I think he genuinely cares and maybe that was part of the reason why things don't go to plan all the time. You might have the best intentions but you can't be a master of all trades.

I certainly wouldn't be up in arms if he were to remain at the club in some capacity as I think the energy and ideas will be coming from one area. Even if Petrie does leave then people are mistaken if they think any purse strings will be loosened. We don't take on debt any more and don't have anyone giving us money so "gambling" on players like Griffiths or Rooney with other peoples money because some fans think it's a good idea isn't going to start happening.

Regardless, this is good news as it will bring a new energy and freshness to the place. Exciting times undoubtedly lie ahead and it won't be long until this "smooth" we hear so much about will replace all this "rough" we have been experiencing.


this, all of it :agree:

Bobby's Cinema
29-04-2014, 09:37 AM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.
Behave yourself. Which manager since Collins would you suggest showed any signs of delivering a long term strategy?

A team raking in 15 million pound in this league of minnows has not competed for the last five years. That is dismal failure. FWIW I would largely agree that managers have been backed, collectively money has been spent and yet we are still in dire straits time after time. Very possibly an imbalance in spending on infrastructure to that on the park also wouldn't you say. The fans have been short-changed so of course there is resentment.

lucky
29-04-2014, 09:37 AM
The concern I have over this appointment it's another wage and probably a decent one which could have been spent on a players wage

Saorsa
29-04-2014, 09:38 AM
I'm not saying people cant have their own opinion DD...but surely your point applies to yourself too. If you dont like what I'm saying than you can ignore it too.

I'm happy with the appointment we've made, and I'm going to try to see the positives in it rather than focus on the worst case scenario of Rod not letting her do the job she's here to do.I wisnae moaning about your opinion though or how many times you post it. I wisnae calling you a serial Petrie (insert word here) either. I may disagree with you but that's just a difference of opinion, that's no exactly what you did is it? You were specifically having a go at posters with a certain opinion/s and for posting it (serial moaners). People can post what they like as far as I'm concerned, I'll either agree or disagree with it or be indifferent. They can even call me names, I'll get over it

Spike Mandela
29-04-2014, 09:49 AM
She will have intimate knowledge of current Motherwell players, wages, relase clauses and contracts. Anyone you would fancy?:cb

Dashing Bob S
29-04-2014, 09:49 AM
:agree: There will be folk telling us Petrie is running things from beyond the grave when that time eventually comes.

And they'd be right. I'm looking forward to seeing a ghost with a mowser.

Geo_1875
29-04-2014, 09:49 AM
Very good. I think it is reasonable for folk to be sceptical of his level of involvement whilst he still has any sort of role at the club. If this sort of change is occuring then it is a good time for him to sever all ties with Hibs.

There is a difference between healthy scepticism and calling the guy a liar.

silverhibee
29-04-2014, 09:50 AM
:agree: There will be folk telling us Petrie is running things from beyond the grave when that time eventually comes.


Silly.

Folk will be rightly worried if he sticks about after telling folk he was taking a back seat when he let SL & FH run things, that worked really well so it did.

Feed McGraw
29-04-2014, 10:06 AM
2 women in charge of senior Capital clubs! whatever next? I can see it now, a return to the auld style stairheid rammy. 2 auld burds, on opposite sides o' the stair railings, arms folded tightly, screaming abuse at each other! braw:greengrin I`ve heard that if Dundee get promoted Maw Broon will be the new CEO up there.

lyonhibs
29-04-2014, 10:08 AM
I like that despite bringing someone to the club with a good track record, in what looks a really positive move, we still get the serial moaners complaining that they'll no be happy till RP is gone/banished from Easter Road/Ned Stark-ed.

Why bother waiting to see how things will work, let's just complain it's no good enough.

:agree::agree:

I've been a right moaning minnie of late, simply because Hibs are not good enough on the field of play at the moment, and that's where most of my interest lies.

Now we've gone and got one of our rival's most influential board members on board to take over from Petrie, and just because The Tache hasn't explicitly got on a spaceship to Mars, folk are convinced that it's just a front and Leanne Dempster will happily play along with RP as the puppetmaster.

Let's just hope she's got an SPL club to run come June 1st!!

TRC
29-04-2014, 10:09 AM
At least its not a yes man:greengrin

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 10:20 AM
The concern I have over this appointment it's another wage and probably a decent one which could have been spent on a players wage

Has crossed my mind too.

Am I right in saying that we don't technically have a CEO at the moment so this is a new wage creative relative to the last wee while. I know Petrie must be getting paid something from somewhere but I always thought him and a few of the board did not draw a significant salary from the club?

jonty
29-04-2014, 10:22 AM
He's already tried this twice before and it didn't work out.

What happened to the internal chap that was a slot-in?

Anyway, when Butcher turns it around next year, it'll be down to her.
I hope her first action is to allow TB to order his own balls without needing approval.:rolleyes:

(yes, pretty much a *meh* moment. I'd still prefer some decent player signings)

RIP
29-04-2014, 10:25 AM
Has crossed my mind too.

Am I right in saying that we don't technically have a CEO at the moment so this is a new wage creative relative to the last wee while. I know Petrie must be getting paid something from somewhere but I always thought him and a few of the board did not draw a significant salary from the club?

Leeann Dempster's astute management will have brought millions of pounds of revenue to Motherwell in recent years. Compared to the salary she has been paid during that time she has probably repaid that outlay many times over.

In that same period Hibs will have spent millions of director, coach and player severance, transfer and sign on fees. Not a penny of which has thus far taken the club forwards

Keith_M
29-04-2014, 10:30 AM
She will have intimate knowledge of current Motherwell players...........


Come on, there's nae need to start nasty rumours. Sexism in football is unacceptable...........







:greengrin

PatHead
29-04-2014, 10:34 AM
Great news. To me one of the big problems has been the negative "culture" surrounding the club. Now from the top we will have a CEO who is respected within the game, will bring fresh ideas and impetus to the club., knows Scottish football well and has a good relationship with the press who admire her.

Couple that with TB and his relationships with the press I expect a lot of the sniping surrounding Hibs to reduce making the club upbeat.

Almost everyone feels that Rod Petrie's time had come, some for longer than others, and I am looking forward to things improving on the pitch now.

The King is dead, long live the Queen.

Baker9
29-04-2014, 10:38 AM
Anybody know if she was at Motherwell at the same time Butcher was there? Could Butcher have influenced her appointment? For years we have desparately needed people to take on Petrie. She seems like the sort of lady to do so and Butcher and Malpas aren't scared of him. Can't wait for the cage fight Budge v Dempster - a snip at £28 pound a seat.

Keith_M
29-04-2014, 10:49 AM
Here's (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leeann-dempster-survived-sexism-become-2049539) an interview with Dempster from about a year ago. It's a good background and insight as to what Hibs can expect.

Weir7
29-04-2014, 11:03 AM
Great news. To me one of the big problems has been the negative "culture" surrounding the club. Now from the top we will have a CEO who is respected within the game, will bring fresh ideas and impetus to the club., knows Scottish football well and has a good relationship with the press who admire her.

Couple that with TB and his relationships with the press I expect a lot of the sniping surrounding Hibs to reduce making the club upbeat.

Almost everyone feels that Rod Petrie's time had come, some for longer than others, and I am looking forward to things improving on the pitch now.

The King is dead, long live the Queen.

Delighted she's coming. Providing shes allowed to do her job. For me this is simple petrie must go.

greenpaper55
29-04-2014, 11:05 AM
Further changes in the near future , is there a revolution going on at ER ?.http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-sign-motherwell-s-leeann-dempster-as-chief-exec-1-3392064

BOB MARLEYS DUG
29-04-2014, 11:05 AM
Short video with Dempster via SSN. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZeNGRXMew#

Ross4356
29-04-2014, 11:15 AM
Was Scott Lindsay not our chief executive before and responsible for hiring our managers?

jonty
29-04-2014, 11:17 AM
She's hardly got a track record though. Motherwell was her first job in football.

Ambitous, yes. Can't see her sticking 5yrs at Hibs.

Unexpected and I'm underwhelmed (similar to TBs appointment) but time will tell. Good luck and welcome aboard. :aok:


Was Scott Lindsay not our chief executive before and responsible for hiring our managers?

That depends on who you listen to - Scott Lindsay or hibs.net :greengrin

I sincerely hope appointing another manager isn't on her to-do list for a good while.

Billy Whizz
29-04-2014, 11:18 AM
Further changes in the near future , is there a revolution going on at ER ?.http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-sign-motherwell-s-leeann-dempster-as-chief-exec-1-3392064

Do Motherwell have a DOF

greenpaper55
29-04-2014, 11:25 AM
Short video with Dempster via SSN. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZeNGRXMew#

A wee shot on here of the manager she sacked who was Jim Gannon , i think his last game was against us at ER , the game where Nish played like he was on something.

Gus Fring
29-04-2014, 11:47 AM
A wee shot on here of the manager she sacked who was Jim Gannon , i think his last game was against us at ER , the game where Nish played like he was on something.

That could be any game.

southsider
29-04-2014, 11:59 AM
Anyone else heard about Pat Nevin as new D of F with John Parke back as chief scout / head of coaching ?

YehButNoBut
29-04-2014, 12:02 PM
Anyone else heard about Pat Nevin as new D of F with John Parke back as chief scout / head of coaching ?

That would be too good to be true

GreenLake
29-04-2014, 12:07 PM
How many people with a good track record have come to the club over the past 8 years, only to crash and burn?

What I like is that after seven years of decline and fall under the dead hand of STF and the penny-pinching killjoy attitude of his bewhiskered Igor, there are still Pollyannas at the club ready to expect the absolute best whenever a new appointment's made - there's a definition of insanity lurking somewhere in my head here, but I just can't quite remember how it goes right now.

Experience tells me that if Leeann Dempster is working at ER with Igor looming in the background making sure she doesn't do anything he and his master disapprove of, not a lot will change. That's the experience of the last six managerial appointments.

I would have much preferred the announcement that LD was to become CEO with a new chairman taking over from Petrie to work with her.

And Petrie walking away. - completely.

That's not serial moaning. It's being realistic.

Just think how fantastic we would have been as football supporters if we had followed a more successful club. Hibs just ruined us and made us into a collection of bitter failure magnets. :wink:

Speedway
29-04-2014, 12:08 PM
That would be too good to be true

DEMPSTEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!!

Yep, it has a nice ring to it.

Spike Mandela
29-04-2014, 12:10 PM
Short video with Dempster via SSN. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZeNGRXMew#

She likes to stand by dugouts on matchdays.:shocked:How long before she tells someone to **** off!:cb

ALF TUPPER
29-04-2014, 12:11 PM
Anyone else heard about Pat Nevin as new D of F with John Parke back as chief scout / head of coaching ?

Really doubt it .......................Pat seems very happy doing his TV and radio punditry thingy. Although, i'm sure his son would love him to get a job at ER.

:wink:

Seveno
29-04-2014, 12:12 PM
Interesting to read what she has done at Motherwell. Greater involvement with the community is definitely a main aim of STF. Guiding the transfer of ownership to the fans could well be another. He has to have been thinking about the long term future of the club and the Motherwell model would fit with what I think he would go for.

offshorehibby
29-04-2014, 12:16 PM
The concern I have over this appointment it's another wage and probably a decent one which could have been spent on a players wage


Has crossed my mind too.

Am I right in saying that we don't technically have a CEO at the moment so this is a new wage creative relative to the last wee while. I know Petrie must be getting paid something from somewhere but I always thought him and a few of the board did not draw a significant salary from the club?

Right, so Hibs do something positive. Something a few on here have been hankering after for a while and within a couple of hours of bthe announcement we get ah well this is going to cost us money. You expecting her to do the job for nowt.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
29-04-2014, 12:22 PM
She likes to stand by dugouts on matchdays.:shocked:How long before Malpas tells her to **** off!:cb

Fixed that for you:greengrin

The Sea-gull
29-04-2014, 12:26 PM
Right, so Hibs do something positive. Something a few on here have been hankering after for a while and within a couple of hours of bthe announcement we get ah well this is going to cost us money. You expecting her to do the job for nowt.

I am happy to hear there is change afoot at that level and of course I know it will cost money. I was just thinking that while it is good news and potentially good for the medium to long term, short term it could well be a cost we have to absorb which will prevent us investing as much as we need to/want to in other areas and was just asking if anyone knows whether the cost of a CEO is something we have at the moment coz, as my post stated, I thought that a good number of the board took very little from Hibs by way of salary whereas clearly Dempster will be getting a salary.

MWHIBBIES
29-04-2014, 12:30 PM
The concern I have over this appointment it's another wage and probably a decent one which could have been spent on a players wageIf she does well it will be a million times more than any player could.

bod
29-04-2014, 12:43 PM
Seems like Rod will be stepping down from the club in the near future.

will he not loose his jollys with sfa or spfl or whatever its called nowadays ?
pretty sure you have to be associated to a club at leats that used to be the case

R'Albin
29-04-2014, 12:46 PM
http://www.steelmenonline.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=14241&st=0

They seem disappointed. This looks like it could be a very good appointment.

greenpaper55
29-04-2014, 12:54 PM
In the wee interview she gave it seems she has her lunch with the players and other staff and i would imagine she will be more hands on than the tache ever was if you will pardon the expression. She was in charge of the transfer dealings at Well so i cannot see how she would accept anything else at ER, it has to be a positive move.

Nutmegged
29-04-2014, 12:58 PM
I honestly believe this is an excellent appointment from the club, will it be a difference maker? I have no idea, I'd like to hope so but we can't just stop trying because we are scared of failing again.

Dempster will also have inside info on deals that Hutchison/Ainsworth/ etc... are on, this could give us a heads up if we go for these players, not just because we'll have an idea of what we're dealing with but Leanne will also be a familiar face to those players.

I think this is a really progrssive move from the club

John_the_angus_hibby
29-04-2014, 01:05 PM
Anyone else heard about Pat Nevin as new D of F with John Parke back as chief scout / head of coaching ?

Now you are dreaming!!!!! No chance (fingers crossed)

....also we would have bu@@er all to moan at!


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29-04-2014, 01:27 PM
Here's (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leeann-dempster-survived-sexism-become-2049539) an interview with Dempster from about a year ago. It's a good background and insight as to what Hibs can expect.

Embalming, a nice funeral service, then up in smoke? :devil:

This is from a Herald article about her, John Boyle, and Motherwell. http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/rejected-by-army-because-of-poor-eyesight-but-motherwell-chief-executive-leeann-dempster-has-vision-for-football.

Boyle installed her first as general manager, then chief executive. The temptation is to make a comparison with Karren Brady, particularly as both are in their early forties and arrived in football from advertising agencies. It's not an impression which survives much conversation with Dempster. "She's much better at promoting herself than I am, let's put it that way," she says.

With Boyle's 73% stake due to be gifted to the Well Society if they can raise the £1.5m needed to convince the main shareholder that there will be sufficient reserves in the bank to cope with difficult trading periods, Dempster is well placed to comment on fan ownership. It is an ideal that sits comfortably with her and Boyle, and she is now trying to convince local businesses to take stakes in the Well Society, which has already raised £400,000 through individuals.

"Something like the Well Society is a better model than one individual owning a club," she asserts. "The ideal would be a group of [wealthy] individuals with a fan ownership model running in tandem. The notion you are throwing money into a black hole by owning a football club is not true, especially where the bigger clubs are concerned.

"At Motherwell we have a limited fanbase because we are competing with the Old Firm on our doorstep. But if you are asking about Hearts, the debt burden there is the issue. Once that has a resolution, through administration, Hearts would be an ideal proposition for a consortium type arrangement of individuals and fan ownership – they have 10,000 season ticket holders and are based in a city. There are a lot of people who could become involved and this is could be a great opportunity for the rebirth of a big club."

I'm assuming that STF and RP are aware of her opinions on club ownership (in red). They must be.

If the team was functioning even reasonably effectively you could say the same about Hibs as she says in the last paragraph about Hearts.

Another quote - "Dempster was deliberately chosen by Boyle not just because he had employed her at Zoom, but because he wanted an outsider, somebody who wasn't steeped in football and all its tired cliches. Somebody who would take a jaundiced view of all the hand-me-down insider mistakes which have dragged Scottish football to its current floundering depths."

I would like to think that STF and RP were thinking the same way. I MIGHT just be prepared to hold my breath on that one.

SteveHFC
29-04-2014, 01:29 PM
Anyone else heard about Pat Nevin as new D of F with John Parke back as chief scout / head of coaching ?

:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:

jacomo
29-04-2014, 01:54 PM
I honestly believe this is an excellent appointment from the club, will it be a difference maker? I have no idea, I'd like to hope so but we can't just stop trying because we are scared of failing again.

Dempster will also have inside info on deals that Hutchison/Ainsworth/ etc... are on, this could give us a heads up if we go for these players, not just because we'll have an idea of what we're dealing with but Leanne will also be a familiar face to those players.

I think this is a really progrssive move from the club

Very positive news. Ultimately it will depend on how responsibilities are split (will new CEO have sole responsibility for hiring / firing the manager, for example) but it's a big investment by Hibs.

If Petrie now acts as Chairman - setting the broad parameters for the company to operate in but leaving delivery to executives - then this should deliver the change we all recognise is needed.

Cameron1875
29-04-2014, 01:55 PM
At least the protest made mainstream media so I guess me an the others weren't totally wasting our time.

Not saying it led to this appointment since this was probably done weeks ago but no harm in the press picking up on the fact that a lot of fans are deeply unhappy with the running of the club.

jdships
29-04-2014, 02:03 PM
I find it quite amazing given the number of " Easter Road Insiders " who frequent this forum that NOT ONE was able to tell us in advance of this appointment !!
Even nothing via " Greggs" - OH DEAR !

Come on guys , sharpen up cause its not good enough , ears to the walls , tap the phones whatever but try and do better
Remember this is " Hibs Net " the font of all knowledge for all things Hibernian
.

:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
:wink::wink::wink::wink:

BOB MARLEYS DUG
29-04-2014, 02:05 PM
:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:

Get the Daffy GIF up mate:wink:

SteveHFC
29-04-2014, 02:08 PM
Get the Daffy GIF up mate:wink:

Saving it for a major signing this summer :cb

Eyrie
29-04-2014, 05:11 PM
Excellent signing, and there is no way she would have left Motherwell just to become a front for Petrie. Dempster will be in full control of running the club and answerable to the board for the resultant outcomes. Given her track record we can expect that she'll get the big decisions right. Also pleased to see that she has a background in marketing and is a strong believer in communicating with the fans.

:top marks

Weir7
30-04-2014, 11:54 AM
Is this just wishful thinking or have you heard whispers.

Eddie May new academy boss. I understand these changes are a foot

Billy Whizz
30-04-2014, 12:05 PM
Eddie May new academy boss. I understand these changes are a foot

And who's been making these decisions, RP/LD?

BOB MARLEYS DUG
30-04-2014, 12:11 PM
Can we expect even more changes of this sort?

jdships
30-04-2014, 01:01 PM
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I find it quite amazing given the number of " Easter Road Insiders " who frequent this forum that NOT ONE was able to tell us in advance of this appointment !!
Even nothing via " Greggs" - OH DEAR !

Come on guys , sharpen up cause its not good enough , ears to the walls , tap the phones whatever but try and do better
Remember this is " Hibs Net " the font of all knowledge for all things Hibernian
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:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin
:wink::wink::wink:
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Let me get this right. Are you complaining that NOT ONE of the insiders were able to tell you in advance that this was going down?

If there were insiders that knew, what makes you think they would post up on a public messageboard?

My point was that given so many posters on "HibsNet" claim to be ER insiders am surprised no one was able to spill the beans on this appointment :greengrin:wink::rolleyes:
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Nutmegged
30-04-2014, 01:12 PM
Eddie May is in interesting move, I wonder if Terry Butcher has anything to do with this, Eddie is highly rated in Youth Development, its not an automatically exciting change but it could be one that in time proves to be invaluable.

I'm excited that their is clear plans to change a lot behind the scenes at Hibernian

Mikey09
30-04-2014, 02:03 PM
How many people with a good track record have come to the club over the past 8 years, only to crash and burn?

What I like is that after seven years of decline and fall under the dead hand of STF and the penny-pinching killjoy attitude of his bewhiskered Igor, there are still Pollyannas at the club ready to expect the absolute best whenever a new appointment's made - there's a definition of insanity lurking somewhere in my head here, but I just can't quite remember how it goes right now.

Experience tells me that if Leeann Dempster is working at ER with Igor looming in the background making sure she doesn't do anything he and his master disapprove of, not a lot will change. That's the experience of the last six managerial appointments.

I would have much preferred the announcement that LD was to become CEO with a new chairman taking over from Petrie to work with her.

And Petrie walking away. - completely.

That's not serial moaning. It's being realistic.


Top post Doddie. It's time for Rod Petrie to sever all ties with Hibs for his own sake as well as the clubs or else we will never fully move on.

Speedway
30-04-2014, 02:06 PM
Excellent signing, and there is no way she would have left Motherwell just to become a front for Petrie. Dempster will be in full control of running the club and answerable to the board for the resultant outcomes. Given her track record we can expect that she'll get the big decisions right. Also pleased to see that she has a background in marketing and is a strong believer in communicating with the fans.

:top marks


Top post Doddie. It's time for Rod Petrie to sever all ties with Hibs for his own sake as well as the clubs or else we will never fully move on.

Take it for what's it's worth but the official line is that as of June 1st, Petrie represents us at the SFA. That's it.

Dempster deals with Butcher, agents, contracts, the whole shebang.

Petrie no longer draws a salary from Hibs as of that date.

greenpaper55
30-04-2014, 02:31 PM
Take it for what's it's worth but the official line is that as of June 1st, Petrie represents us at the SFA. That's it.

Dempster deals with Butcher, agents, contracts, the whole shebang.

Petrie no longer draws a salary from Hibs as of that date.

Seems to say that in todays EN but canny be arsed looking for it but it's along those lines. Looks like she will be the one to deal with the transfers /agents etc, can only be good news.

Weststandwanab
30-04-2014, 02:40 PM
Take it for what's it's worth but the official line is that as of June 1st, Petrie represents us at the SFA. That's it.

Dempster deals with Butcher, agents, contracts, the whole shebang.

Petrie no longer draws a salary from Hibs as of that date. Are you an E.R. insider ?

BOB MARLEYS DUG
30-04-2014, 03:03 PM
Take it for what's it's worth but the official line is that as of June 1st, Petrie represents us at the SFA. That's it.

Dempster deals with Butcher, agents, contracts, the whole shebang.

Petrie no longer draws a salary from Hibs as of that date.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

jonty
30-04-2014, 03:18 PM
Take it for what's it's worth but the official line is that as of June 1st, Petrie represents us at the SFA. That's it.

Dempster deals with Butcher, agents, contracts, the whole shebang.

Petrie no longer draws a salary from Hibs as of that date.

I thought he didn't draw a salary anyway? :confused:

Pete
30-04-2014, 03:27 PM
I thought he didn't draw a salary anyway? :confused:

Oh dear. Ten pager coming up.

Maybe this thread can be used to discuss this issue while the other one can be about our new CEO?:greengrin

blackpoolhibs
30-04-2014, 03:40 PM
I thought he didn't draw a salary anyway? :confused:

Apparently he gets a brown envelope through the post once a month. :shhhsh!:

jonty
30-04-2014, 03:41 PM
Oh dear. Ten pager coming up.

Maybe this thread can be used to discuss this issue while the other one can be about our new CEO?:greengrin

Im just curious that if one of the aforementioned items is wrong, what credibility do the others have.

Did we ever find out if Petrie had to sign for all the balls, or if they were indeed gifted by sponsors :greengrin

SMAXXA
30-04-2014, 03:48 PM
Apparently he gets a brown envelope through the post once a month. :shhhsh!:

Aye but it was a white envelope before it was posted

NAE NOOKIE
30-04-2014, 05:52 PM
Motherwell have made about £800k of losses in the last two seasons, despite being successful. Keep in mind they had sold the likes of Jamie Murphy and competed in Champions League qualifiers and Europa in that time. They needed the Well Society to buy shares worth £150,000 last year (essentially a closed share issue) to deal with cash flow problems.

Even though they owe no bank debt, they did owe John Boyle a fair wedge.

I am unconvinced that our flaws really lie at boardroom level, and are more a consequence of constant managerial change. Like it or not, managers have been backed financially, and although mistakes have been made, recently we got...


McGivern - First Choice signing
Tudur Jones - First Choice signing
Liam Craig - First Choice signing
Kevin Thomson - First Choice signing
Scott Robertson - First Choice signing
James McPake - First Choice signing
James Collins was behind Leigh Griffiths and Taylor who both had the goalposts moved an, in the end, were just unaffordable. We still paid a fee, which few else did.

I believe Eoin Doyle was a first choice signing too, although am unsure of Taiwo etc. Certainly, Tom was wanted to stay by Carlisle.

But let's continue peddling myths, so we can satisfy ourselves that the poisonous atmosphere at Easter Road has nothing to do with the misguided sense of entitlement that hangs around the support and has driven out ( in Calderwood's case, kept him here - because woe betide if Petrie let him leave) managers trying to set up a long term strategy.

There are many opinions as to why Hibs have been pants for the last few years I subscribe to the only two constants in that time looking more like part of the problem and less and less like part of the solution .....others will disagree which is their right.

But a Hibs fan posting the bit in bold is for me the most worrying thing ...... are you saying that to expect Hibs to finish better than bottom 6 for 4 seasons in a row or not to fail to live up to its position as the 4th / 5th biggest club in Scotland is unrealistic or even big headed?

Its not a sense of "entitlement" ..... its a not unreasonable sense of expectation based on the size of the club, which more often than not is dashed.

If the club ever takes the attitude you have alluded to here it is doomed to failure.