15 year old stabs teacher to death in Leeds

[easty]

So scary to think this can happen.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27193638

[#FromTheCapital]

For **** sake! That's horrible. Thoughts go out to that poor woman and her family as well as all the kids who had to witness that. Some seriously screwed up people in this world.

[Jonnyboy]

Absolutely tragic news.

[Hermit Crab]

My partner is a teacher and has been attacked by a pupil in the past and suffered a permanent injury as a result but not career ending injury. Attacks on teachers happen more often than you think. Very sad news this.

[Sir David Gray]

Absolutely shocking.

Can't begin to imagine how the pupils who witnessed the attack are feeling right now. Some of them may never get over it.

This probably won't be a popular opinion but I would sentence the person responsible to a whole life sentence for this offence, even if he is only 15 years old.

[#FromTheCapital]

Absolutely shocking.

Can't begin to imagine how the pupils who witnessed the attack are feeling right now. Some of them may never get over it.

This probably won't be a popular opinion but I would sentence the person responsible to a whole life sentence for this offence, even if he is only 15 years old.

I agree. Age doesn't come into it for me. Taking someone's life in such a brutal fashion should result in a lifetime sentence. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he was out for his 25th birthday.

[Sir David Gray]

I agree. Age doesn't come into it for me. Taking someone's life in such a brutal fashion should result in a lifetime sentence. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he was out for his 25th birthday.

:agree: Probably with a brand new identity as well, paid for by the taxpayer, just like Jon Venables and Robert Thompson.

Another pair who should have died in prison.

I'm quite sure that once this guy has been charged and convicted, there will be a queue of child welfare groups and psychologists lining up to say how he cannot possibly receive a lengthy sentence at such a young age and he needs to be given the opportunity to reform and all this sort of nonsense.

Sorry, but if you are someone who's willing to walk into a classroom and slash a teacher to death in front of a whole class of pupils, for no apparent reason, you are one very depraved human being and you should be in prison for life.

[Hibrandenburg]

Dog owners are held more accountable for their pets than parents their children.

A 15 year old should know the difference between right and wrong unless there is some form of disability involved, if they don't then the parents need to be asked why.

[Phil D. Rolls]

Absolutely shocking.

Can't begin to imagine how the pupils who witnessed the attack are feeling right now. Some of them may never get over it.

This probably won't be a popular opinion but I would sentence the person responsible to a whole life sentence for this offence, even if he is only 15 years old.

Agree in principle, obviously we don't know all the facts. I don't think his age alone is grounds for leniency.

[Pretty Boy]

Reports I read today suggested she was stabbed in the neck. That screams intent to kill or seriosuly injure to me.

Unbelievable behaviour by any standards. I spent some time in A&E recently and the mental and physical abuse I witnessed some nurses take was shocking, sure teachers deal with the same on a regular basis. Just a lack of common decency, emapathy and moral standards.

[Jonnyboy]

Reports I read today suggested she was stabbed in the neck. That screams intent to kill or seriosuly injure to me.

Unbelievable behaviour by any standards. I spent some time in A&E recently and the mental and physical abuse I witnessed some nurses take was shocking, sure teachers deal with the same on a regular basis. Just a lack of common decency, emapathy and moral standards.

Now saying multiple stab wounds. Horrendous

[Viva_Palmeiras]

We shouldn't be too quick to judge. I would not be too surprised to learn of some genuine mental illness or disability. The Daily Mail will then have their field day. Tragedy for everyone.

[Alex Trager]

We shouldn't be too quick to judge. I would not be too surprised to learn of some genuine mental illness or disability. The Daily Mail will then have their field day. Tragedy for everyone.

Maybe so but if it is the case that he's is of sound mind I disagree with the poster above saying his age should transpire into leniency.

He should not be out until after his thirtieth birthday

[easty]

Maybe so but if it is the case that he's is of sound mind I disagree with the poster above saying his age should transpire into leniency.

He should not be out until after his thirtieth birthday

I don't think anyone has said that.

[Alex Trager]

I don't think anyone has said that.

I misread. Thought someone said that his age was a grounds for leniency. He said it wasn't a ground for leniency.

[Sir David Gray]

Maybe so but if it is the case that he's is of sound mind I disagree with the poster above saying his age should transpire into leniency.

He should not be out until after his thirtieth birthday

He shouldn't be out until his 30th birthday?

And you don't want to see leniency!? :confused:

That would only be 15 years.

As I said earlier, he should be put away for the rest of his life but if he's out before he turns 50 then it's outrageous considering what he's done and the amount of hurt he's inflicted on so many people.

[Hibercelona]

You have to ask yourself though, what would drive a 15 year old school student to do this?

Obviously murder is never justified, but there are factors that can push a person to the edge of insanity.

The story could be a little more indepth, instead of just trying to creep people out with the WOW factor.

[Hibrandenburg]

You have to ask yourself though, what would drive a 15 year old school student to do this?

Obviously murder is never justified, but there are factors that can push a person to the edge of insanity.

The story could be a little more indepth, instead of just trying to creep people out with the WOW factor.

Levels of tolerance also play a role. Those who are taught violence at home are much more likely to see it as an acceptable solution to problems than those who are taught restraint.

[Hibs Class]

Saw this story earlier - another boy who as a 15 year old killed a head teacher and is now granted release.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-27249769

[Steve-O]

If he is found guilty of murder, he will serve a life sentence. A 'sentence' does NOT always = imprisonment however. A common misconception. I have little doubt he could serve up to 20 years, and he will then be monitored for the rest of his days. Such a person does NOT have to re-offend in order to be recalled to prison. They can be recalled for any matter judged to involve their risk of reoffending escalating to a point it is no longer safe for them to be in the community.

The younger the offender, the more likely rehabilitation is possible. That doesn't mean they will be though. If he is deemed to unsafe to release, he never will be. This is what people fail to realise. Those serving life do not have an automatic right to release at any point of their sentence.

[Sir David Gray]

If he is found guilty of murder, he will serve a life sentence. A 'sentence' does NOT always = imprisonment however. A common misconception. I have little doubt he could serve up to 20 years, and he will then be monitored for the rest of his days. Such a person does NOT have to re-offend in order to be recalled to prison. They can be recalled for any matter judged to involve their risk of reoffending escalating to a point it is no longer safe for them to be in the community.

The younger the offender, the more likely rehabilitation is possible. That doesn't mean they will be though. If he is deemed to unsafe to release, he never will be. This is what people fail to realise. Those serving life do not have an automatic right to release at any point of their sentence.

They shouldn't have a right to release at any point of their sentence.

Those sentenced to life imprisonment should spend the rest of their life in jail.

In my opinion of course.

[Steve-O]

They shouldn't have a right to release at any point of their sentence.

Those sentenced to life imprisonment should spend the rest of their life in jail.

In my opinion of course.

Don't know if you read the very line you highlighted?