Farage...

[steakbake]

Anyone see the C4 documentary? UKIP on course to do very well in the European elections. Is this the beginning of a UKIP breakthrough nationally?

I reckon they'll call a lot of the shots in the 2015 UK election.

Quite a sympathetic portrayal it must be said.

[offshorehibby]

Not in Scotland they'll not. Anybody that could vote for Ferage needs their head examined.

[steakbake]

Not in Scotland they'll not. Anybody that could vote for Ferage needs their head examined.

What Scotland votes doesn't really matter though... if the rest of the country votes Farage then he's in, whether 'we' want him to be or not.

[lucky]

UKIP are attracting protest votes a bit like the SNP did 30 years ago, now as we all know they are in power. The English and Welsh people are looking to vent their frustration at The collation but unfortunately don't see Labour as a radical alternative. The problem with UKIP is they and their policies don't stand up to scrutiny. A charismatic leader will only take them so far.

[heretoday]

The charisma and credibility of UKIP takes a steep downward turn after Mr Farage. Hopefully most voters will realise this at the polls in 2015.

[offshorehibby]

UKIP are attracting protest votes a bit like the SNP did 30 years ago, now as we all know they are in power. The English and Welsh people are looking to vent their frustration at The collation but unfortunately don't see Labour as a radical alternative. The problem with UKIP is they and their policies don't stand up to scrutiny. A charismatic leader will only take them so far.


There's one way to sort that, September 18th.

[marinello59]

The charisma and credibility of UKIP takes a steep downward turn after Mr Farage. Hopefully most voters will realise this at the polls in 2015.

Thankfully the Scots are far too clever to give their protest votes to a party draping itself in the national flag which has a charismatic leader.
( Tongue firmly in cheek smiley.)

[(((Fergus)))]

UKIP are attracting protest votes a bit like the SNP did 30 years ago, now as we all know they are in power. The English and Welsh people are looking to vent their frustration at The collation but unfortunately don't see Labour as a radical alternative. The problem with UKIP is they and their policies don't stand up to scrutiny. A charismatic leader will only take them so far.

What are their policies and why don't they stand up to scrutiny?


Thankfully the Scots are far too clever to give their protest votes to a party draping itself in the national flag which has a charismatic leader.
( Tongue firmly in cheek smiley.)

:greengrin

[number 27]

Thought it was a shocker of a documentary to be honest, Farage would have been hard pressed to come up with anything more sympathetic if he had commissioned it himself.

[lucky]

Problems ahead for UKIP

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/article/3535/police-begin-inquiry-into-ukip-finances

[Pretty Boy]

I posted some percentages and breakdowns of the UKIP voting demographic on another thread a while back.

I can't find the exact numbers but whilst UKIP draws the majority of support from ex Tory voters over 55 they also collect a surprisingly large number of votes from ex Lib Dems. The obvious flaw here is that one is a party that is staunchly in favour of European integration whilst the other is Euro sceptic. The conclusion was reached that because the Lib Dems are no longer a viable 'protest vote', the people who voted Lib Dem simply because they weren't Labour or Conservatives are now switching allegiance to UKIP.

[Beefster]

I posted some percentages and breakdowns of the UKIP voting demographic on another thread a while back.

I can't find the exact numbers but whilst UKIP draws the majority of support from ex Tory voters over 55 they also collect a surprisingly large number of votes from ex Lib Dems. The obvious flaw here is that one is a party that is staunchly in favour of European integration whilst the other is Euro sceptic. The conclusion was reached that because the Lib Dems are no longer a viable 'protest vote', the people who voted Lib Dem simply because they weren't Labour or Conservatives are now switching allegiance to UKIP.

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/02/24/where-ukip-gets-its-support/

[lord bunberry]

What are their policies and why don't they stand up to scrutiny?



:greengrin

They want us to leave the European Union and.....eh that's about it.

[steakbake]

For some folk, leaving the European Union is enough of an issue.

"Bloody Yoorip" is the phrase a lot of these people go by.

Thing is that the mainstream parties don't want a referendum on EU membership because they know that there is a very high probability that they'd lose it.

The Tories have kicked it till 2017 on the proviso that it'll be enacted only if they win the next GE (looking unlikely they can win it outright), Labour are not quite sure what their position is after Miliband's insightful intervention.

I fully expect UKIP will do well in May and if things can carry on, they'll be significant in the outcome of the 2015 GE.

As for financial irregularities - well, unfortunate for UKIP (but fortunately for us all), they're a minor party that aren't part of the established set up so I would imagine any inquiry into their funding and set up would be very robust and, unlike as has been seen when financial irregularities crop up with the mainstream parties.

[Northernhibee]

There's one way to sort that, September 18th.

Or voting no and pushing for devolution plus.

[steakbake]

Clegg was useless in that one tonight. Just a load of straw man arguments and desperate examples. Actually made Farage look good.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I never saw the debate, but, being a decent orator and having a bit of charisma will attract the "they are all as bad as each other" crowd. Quite close to that belief myself.

[Pretty Boy]

That leaflet Clegg produced featuring the Native American wasn't actually a piece of UKIP literature, was it?

[Hibrandenburg]

Let his mask fall when he said he admired Putin.

[Haymaker]

I have met a few of the UKIP organisers round my way and to a man they are incredibly racist. On camera and in the press they proclaim one thing but in the safety of the pub (forgetting bar staff hear all) they are vile and disgusting, everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) was the fault of the N*****s, P*akis and the like. Pompous, arrogant ****ers the lot of them.

Could, of course, just be my local ones but I wouldn't be shocked to find out more of the same.

[heretoday]

The UKIP talent takes a steep nosedive just after Farage IMO. I find him a bit scary too. Those mad eyes!

Anyway, I'm not for splitting away from things but joining instead. Strength in numbers.

[Jonnyboy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/02/ukip-sahara-dust-spoof_n_5075084.html

[Northernhibee]

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/britain-backs-farage-plan-to-move-britain-to-alternate-universe-2014040385365

[Onceinawhile]

Heard this all about the bnp after they won two seats a few elections back. They've disappeared just like UKIP will.

[steakbake]

Heard this all about the bnp after they won two seats a few elections back. They've disappeared just like UKIP will.

The BNP didn't poll in first and get 20-30% of votes in various elections on the run up, pushing established parties into 3rd/4th.

This is different.

[offshorehibby]

Or voting no and pushing for devolution plus.

Devo Plus woudn't stop ukip gaining seats of popularity.