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sleeping giant
29-03-2014, 08:59 PM
Right folks ....
I have just discovered the Mandelbrot set :greengrin I am 42 and i had never heard of this until last night when i was watching a creationist lecture (i know i know):greengrin
This is the video i watched but i realise many people will not watch it as its over an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwCl0ymTfg
Here is a condensed visual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCdnGIuv6I
This blew my mind and i could not believe that mathematics had this kind of mind boggling information hidden away.
Are there any Mathematicians on here that have studied this and can add anything to this thread ?
Seemingly this had been hidden from the world until the 70's/80's when we had the computing power to do it but it can infact be plotted by hand but would take a very very long time :coffee:
Wiki link..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
This should be shown in all schools imo. If i had been shown this in Maths at school , i would have been hooked.
Mon the mathematicians:top marks
Twa Cairpets
01-04-2014, 02:14 PM
Right folks ....
I have just discovered the Mandelbrot set :greengrin I am 42 and i had never heard of this until last night when i was watching a creationist lecture (i know i know):greengrin
This is the video i watched but i realise many people will not watch it as its over an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkwCl0ymTfg
Here is a condensed visual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCdnGIuv6I
This blew my mind and i could not believe that mathematics had this kind of mind boggling information hidden away.
Are there any Mathematicians on here that have studied this and can add anything to this thread ?
Seemingly this had been hidden from the world until the 70's/80's when we had the computing power to do it but it can infact be plotted by hand but would take a very very long time :coffee:
Wiki link..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set
This should be shown in all schools imo. If i had been shown this in Maths at school , i would have been hooked.
Mon the mathematicians:top marks
Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe :dunno:) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.
As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?
But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.
JeMeSouviens
01-04-2014, 02:46 PM
Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!
Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
A. Benoit B Mandelbrot
... I didn't say it was funny, did I? :tumble:
Twa Cairpets
01-04-2014, 03:28 PM
Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!
Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
A. Benoit B Mandelbrot
... I didn't say it was funny, did I? :tumble:
:not worth I actually laughed at that...
Lucius Apuleius
01-04-2014, 07:22 PM
Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe :dunno:) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.
As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?
But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.
The Radge
Hiber-nation
01-04-2014, 09:11 PM
The Radge
Think so. Definitely no me anyway. I wouldn't know a fractal teacup from a topographic tea cosy.
sleeping giant
01-04-2014, 11:01 PM
Fractals are exceptionally cool. Someone (Hiber-nation maybe :dunno:) had a fractal teacup on a table in their signature that used to make me feel a bit queasy.
As for the lecture, which I watched on and off while I could stomach it, anyone who comes up with the argument "you'll never see a evolutionary mathematician - 7 didn't involve from 3" as an argument for creation is really preaching to the lowest common denominator. "Its clever, it's beautiful we didn't understand it until recently, and its not made by man, therefore God" is a bit of a flimsy argument to say the least. Why not nature? Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?
But nonetheless, the maths bit of it was pretty interesting.
I could have written this reply before you replied :greengrin
TBH , it was the first i had heard of it . It just so happens it was on that lecture.
Bloody amazing all the same !
Hey, I know a Mandelbrot joke!
Q. What does the B in Benoit B Mandelbrot stand for?
A. Benoit B Mandelbrot
... I didn't say it was funny, did I? :tumble:
:tee hee:
Twa Cairpets
02-04-2014, 01:02 PM
I could have written this reply before you replied :greengrin
TBH , it was the first i had heard of it . It just so happens it was on that lecture.
Bloody amazing all the same !
:tee hee:
I am glad to have lived up to expectations...:greengrin
I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.
Just Alf
02-04-2014, 01:11 PM
I am glad to have lived up to expectations...:greengrin
I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.
Funnily enough, I've just finished watching it and that's exactly what I thought as well! (Becoming a theme in this thread :-/ )
Beefster
02-04-2014, 01:41 PM
Why not aliens or ghosts or pan-dimensional otters?
I can just about tolerate you trashing deities but don't be starting on pan-dimensional otters. My faith in them is the only thing that keeps me going.
As for this thread, I did Mandelbrot and Julia sets at uni and my head still hurts.
Hiber-nation
02-04-2014, 08:52 PM
I am glad to have lived up to expectations...:greengrin
I agree though, if you could just have edited out all the "insight into Gods mind stuff", the guy is quite good at getting a brain-bending concept across.
I get this though :wink: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uo7D8b5VgnM/UU756FnR60I/AAAAAAAAEcs/1FnzP6D1VxE/s1600/VDOIN0.D.png
Twa Cairpets
03-04-2014, 01:56 PM
I get this though :wink: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Uo7D8b5VgnM/UU756FnR60I/AAAAAAAAEcs/1FnzP6D1VxE/s1600/VDOIN0.D.png
Ooohhh I love that. Cheers!
Hiber-nation
03-04-2014, 08:47 PM
Ooohhh I love that. Cheers!
Thought you might! Got sent by a mate on Facebook and you were the first person I thought of :greengrin
BroxburnHibee
03-04-2014, 10:38 PM
First time I've seen that and I loved Maths at school.
Earth is 6000 years old eh? Who'd have thought it :tee hee:
Great stuff though - fascinating.
sleeping giant
03-04-2014, 10:47 PM
First time I've seen that and I loved Maths at school.
Earth is 6000 years old eh? Who'd have thought it :tee hee:
Great stuff though - fascinating.
Unbelievable :agree: trying to explain it to my wife is like the blind leading the blind :-)
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