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Steve-O
15-03-2014, 11:07 AM
Surprised to see no thread on this?
So, WTF has happened here?
I'm really not sure what to think at this stage but it's now looking like a definite hijack.
The Gorf
15-03-2014, 11:17 AM
Yup, I think you're right about the hijack thing. But hijacked by the crew? They're searching the pilots house for any clues. But they are now saying that all their communication devices re deliberately switched off. These poor folk could still be alive, hopefully.
Hibercelona
15-03-2014, 12:12 PM
I'm of the view that there was a decompression, causing the plane to break up at a high altitude.
A hijack doesn't cause a plane to simply blip off the radar. It's tracking device failed. It's not something that the pilot or a hijacker can simply turn off at will. So something must have caused it to malfunction. Which is a very difficult thing to do, considering all of the safe guards in place to ensure that it doesn't happen.
sleeping giant
15-03-2014, 12:21 PM
Surely if it was a hijacking there would have been demands made or responsibility taken by now.
jonty
15-03-2014, 01:12 PM
Surely if it was a hijacking there would have been demands made or responsibility taken by now.
Maybe they have. The info coming from the various sources has been mixed to say the least.
Jonnyboy
15-03-2014, 08:55 PM
I'm of the view that there was a decompression, causing the plane to break up at a high altitude.
A hijack doesn't cause a plane to simply blip off the radar. It's tracking device failed. It's not something that the pilot or a hijacker can simply turn off at will. So something must have caused it to malfunction. Which is a very difficult thing to do, considering all of the safe guards in place to ensure that it doesn't happen.
Aviation experts are saying the transponders were switched off manually so you're wrong in the highlighted bit of your post
Phil D. Rolls
15-03-2014, 10:41 PM
Bizarre stuff here, surely they knew all this information before now. Something is going on here.
...WentToMowAnSPL
15-03-2014, 10:46 PM
I'm of the view that there was a decompression, causing the plane to break up at a high altitude.
A hijack doesn't cause a plane to simply blip off the radar. It's tracking device failed. It's not something that the pilot or a hijacker can simply turn off at will. So something must have caused it to malfunction. Which is a very difficult thing to do, considering all of the safe guards in place to ensure that it doesn't happen.
You copying Michelle Mone who despite admitting she wasn't an expert tweeted her own view ..? Not
At all tempted to make a viz style comment about inflation
Hibrandenburg
16-03-2014, 06:37 AM
I'm of the view that there was a decompression, causing the plane to break up at a high altitude.
A hijack doesn't cause a plane to simply blip off the radar. It's tracking device failed. It's not something that the pilot or a hijacker can simply turn off at will. So something must have caused it to malfunction. Which is a very difficult thing to do, considering all of the safe guards in place to ensure that it doesn't happen.
There are several devices and systems that constantly exchange information with ATC, the airlines base and other aircraft. All these devices are designed to be switched of and isolated in case of malfunction and fire.
As an aircraft moves from one ATC area of responsibility to another, the pilots change radio frequency and confirm with the new ATC that they have contact. If no contact is made then the pilots return to the previous frequency to clear the problem.
Something very strange and unusual is happening here, a modern passenger jet just doesn't disappear without trace. Whatever happened to that jet happened because someone wanted it to happen.
Sylar
16-03-2014, 07:46 AM
Like the rest of you, I find this a truly bizarre story.
I was expecting it to be a simple case of downed in the sea, similar to Air France, that hadn't been recovered yet.
However, the news that it continued to ping satellites for 7 hours after radar contact was lost is unsettling. That doesn't mean it flew for 7 hours of course, merely that the aircraft was still powered in some capacity.
After 9/11, I genuinely expected this sort of thing to never happen again, where aircrafts are completely lost and untraceable. It surely can't have landed somewhere? I still expect a crash site to be discovered somewhere though the potential scouting area is so huge, we probably won't know for weeks/months.
HUTCHYHIBBY
16-03-2014, 12:37 PM
It reminds me of the start of Lost!
Betty Boop
16-03-2014, 03:28 PM
Interesting that both pilots have history of allowing passengers into the cockpit. Apparently this is not illegal on some International flights.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-cockpit-companions/
easty
16-03-2014, 03:53 PM
It reminds me of the start of Lost!
strangely, me and the missus started watching Lost again from the start the day before the plane went missing. Tempted to start it again....just to see if it was a fluke :greengrin
Peevemor
16-03-2014, 04:55 PM
Interesting that both pilots have history of allowing passengers into the cockpit. Apparently this is not illegal on some International flights.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-cockpit-companions/
About 30 years ago, at the request of the pilot (Captain Kirk - I kid you not) I played bagpipes in the cockpit of a 737 flying to Dusseldorf.
There was hardly enough room to breath, let alone hijack the plane.
JimBHibees
17-03-2014, 03:22 PM
Bizarre stuff here, surely they knew all this information before now. Something is going on here.
Maybe someone has shot down the plane and now trying to stop a world war.
Phil D. Rolls
17-03-2014, 03:44 PM
Maybe someone has shot down the plane and now trying to stop a world war.
I was thinking more along the lines of Land of the Giants. They may have landed in a place where the plane has shrunk to the size of a toy.
The_Horde
17-03-2014, 05:37 PM
Aliens. No question of a doubt
Hibee87
17-03-2014, 08:37 PM
Would be funny if the pilot landed the plane and said 'what? I just picked up a mayo chicken for 99p'
The_Horde
17-03-2014, 08:56 PM
Extreme marketing by McDonald's!
;3934998']Aliens. No question of a doubt
I asked. They assured me "It wuznae us".
snooky
17-03-2014, 10:40 PM
What worries me is, if they can lose a plane how good are they/we at detecting incoming missiles.
The big questions are who, why and where?
matty_f
17-03-2014, 11:58 PM
Would be funny if the pilot landed the plane and said 'what? I just picked up a mayo chicken for 99p'
I have visions of the pilot coming down the steps of the plane muttering "f****ng sat-nav!".
I think the whole thing is very hard to work out. Putting myself in the shoes of a baddie, making a plane disappear to the extent where nobody has a bloody clue what happened is pretty cool. It's like something from 24 or The Bourne series.
Back in the real world, I think it's more likely that something tragic happened to the plane and something will be found eventually.
Peevemor
18-03-2014, 05:26 AM
I have visions of the pilot coming down the steps of the plane muttering "f****ng sat-nav!".
I think the whole thing is very hard to work out. Putting myself in the shoes of a baddie, making a plane disappear to the extent where nobody has a bloody clue what happened is pretty cool. It's like something from 24 or The Bourne series.
Back in the real world, I think it's more likely that something tragic happened to the plane and something will be found eventually.
Insight like this is the reason why we all love .net. :agree:
brian6-2
18-03-2014, 08:40 AM
the american government done it.
matty_f
18-03-2014, 09:01 AM
Insight like this is the reason why we all love .net. :agree:
Brest.
Peevemor
18-03-2014, 09:05 AM
Brest.
:tee hee:
jonty
18-03-2014, 11:03 AM
The fact they were searching to the west of Malaysia days before it was announced that the plane 'may' have altered course just highlights how much info they're holding back.
They should make all satellite imagery available online for the world to sift through - we'd find it quicker.
Sylar
18-03-2014, 01:27 PM
The fact they were searching to the west of Malaysia days before it was announced that the plane 'may' have altered course just highlights how much info they're holding back.
They should make all satellite imagery available online for the world to sift through - we'd find it quicker.
No point - Courtney Love's already found it :greengrin
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heretoday
19-03-2014, 03:15 PM
Somewhere in China.
mikewynne
19-03-2014, 04:44 PM
The fact they were searching to the west of Malaysia days before it was announced that the plane 'may' have altered course just highlights how much info they're holding back.
They should make all satellite imagery available online for the world to sift through - we'd find it quicker.
A lot of satellite imagery is publicly available. A US company made their imagery available last week and were encouraging people to l search for the plane. I read somewhere that 3 million people were searching through it.
Phil D. Rolls
19-03-2014, 06:52 PM
Somewhere in China.
:agree:
HUTCHYHIBBY
19-03-2014, 07:37 PM
Quite intriguing that 20 senior employees of Freescale Semiconductors an US Technology company were on board the plane. The firm had just released a gadget that is used in military radar systems.
jonty
19-03-2014, 07:58 PM
A lot of satellite imagery is publicly available. A US company made their imagery available last week and were encouraging people to l search for the plane. I read somewhere that 3 million people were searching through it.
tomnod.com
you could spend hours looking on that!
Pretty Boy
19-03-2014, 08:35 PM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
snooky
19-03-2014, 08:57 PM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
Great theory and perfectly plausible.
I'll go with this version of events till someone proves otherwise
Peevemor
19-03-2014, 09:03 PM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
Seems like a sound theory.
mikewynne
20-03-2014, 02:46 AM
Looks like the Australians might have found the wreckage 1500 miles off their SW coast. There have been so many false leads but this one sounds more concrete.
Beefster
20-03-2014, 05:48 AM
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
This theory was dismissed fairly quickly. The movements of the plane don't fit with the scenario.
Hibrandenburg
20-03-2014, 07:46 AM
Looks like the Australians might have found the wreckage 1500 miles off their SW coast. There have been so many false leads but this one sounds more concrete.
This story just gets more baffling as each day goes on. If the plane is really 1500 miles south west of Australia then how the hell did it manage to reverse course without being tracked by radar after re-enterring Malaysian airspace?
The only scenario that makes sense to me is that there was a slow decompression and the pilots lost consciousness after altering course back to where they started. But that still doesn't explain why they were invisible to ATC and why the pilots first action wasn't to program in an altitude change to a height where oxygen wasn't required. Fire can also be ruled out because it would never have got to where it is now if it was burning.
Beefster
20-03-2014, 08:20 AM
This story just gets more baffling as each day goes on. If the plane is really 1500 miles south west of Australia then how the hell did it manage to reverse course without being tracked by radar after re-enterring Malaysian airspace?
The only scenario that makes sense to me is that there was a slow decompression and the pilots lost consciousness after altering course back to where they started. But that still doesn't explain why they were invisible to ATC and why the pilots first action wasn't to program in an altitude change to a height where oxygen wasn't required. Fire can also be ruled out because it would never have got to where it is now if it was burning.
Apparently the changes in direction mean that someone was in control of the plane.
Hibrandenburg
20-03-2014, 10:05 AM
Apparently the changes in direction mean that someone was in control of the plane.
That much is clear Beefster, what's not clear is why the pilots changed course before altitude. These guys get drummed into them the priorities in an emergency are to aviate, navigate and finally communicate. My instincts are telling me that the crew have reacted incorrectly to an emergency on board (probably a decompression) and some of the information we've been getting is false. There's still a hell of a lot of unanswered questions though.
Jones28
20-03-2014, 10:49 PM
This is getting more and more nuts as it goes on. Did anyone see the picture that was published? Looked very tail-fin like in shape
RyeSloan
21-03-2014, 02:43 PM
Normally in these situations the mundane is more likely than the fanciful.
I reckon there was a rapid decompression event that killed all on board..during this event the plane changed course but continued to fly on auto pilot at its cruising speed and altitude before finally running out of fuel and crashing into whatever piece of large ocean it was over at the time.
Not sure if a decompression event that rapid could occur and the plane still be fight worthy but if so then this is my total guess! A kind of souped up Payne Stewart scenario.
Hibrandenburg
21-03-2014, 03:33 PM
Normally in these situations the mundane is more likely than the fanciful.
I reckon there was a rapid decompression event that killed all on board..during this event the plane changed course but continued to fly on auto pilot at its cruising speed and altitude before finally running out of fuel and crashing into whatever piece of large ocean it was over at the time.
Not sure if a decompression event that rapid could occur and the plane still be fight worthy but if so then this is my total guess! A kind of souped up Payne Stewart scenario.
There's many examples of planes having rapid decompressions and still landing safely. First course of action in that scenario is to put on their oxygen masks and then decrease altitude to below 14000ft. After that they'd try and assess damage and plan to divert to the next suitable airport before communicating to ATC what their problem was and their intentions.
The fact that their communication systems were disabled is concerning and going by the lack of information that the aviation authorities seem to have might mean that what really happened might take a very long time to find out. My heart goes out to the families who must be going through hell.
RyeSloan
21-03-2014, 05:27 PM
There's many examples of planes having rapid decompressions and still landing safely. First course of action in that scenario is to put on their oxygen masks and then decrease altitude to below 14000ft. After that they'd try and assess damage and plan to divert to the next suitable airport before communicating to ATC what their problem was and their intentions. The fact that their communication systems were disabled is concerning and going by the lack of information that the aviation authorities seem to have might mean that what really happened might take a very long time to find out. My heart goes out to the families who must be going through hell.
Agree totally...as I said this was just a guess from me.
I think what I was trying to say was I'm tended to believe this was a tragic accident rather than anything more sinister or fanciful....
At this rate though I'm not sure we are going to find out either way any time soon.
Hibrandenburg
21-03-2014, 06:08 PM
Agree totally...as I said this was just a guess from me.
I think what I was trying to say was I'm tended to believe this was a tragic accident rather than anything more sinister or fanciful....
At this rate though I'm not sure we are going to find out either way any time soon.
:agree: If someone was up to no good we'd have heard something by now.
easty
22-03-2014, 11:46 PM
:agree: If someone was up to no good we'd have heard something by now.
Of course we would. If someone was 'making a point', terrorist or otherwise then we would definitely know about it by now.
sleeping giant
22-03-2014, 11:57 PM
Of course we would. If someone was 'making a point', terrorist or otherwise then we would definitely know about it by now.
Yip , said that at the beginning .
blackpoolhibs
23-03-2014, 05:24 PM
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Ended in the Indian ocean no survivors
Jones28
24-03-2014, 02:37 PM
Of course we would. If someone was 'making a point', terrorist or otherwise then we would definitely know about it by now.
Yepp.
I wonder if the families will ever get some sort of closure? Did they not recover the black box of that air France jet that went down from 4000 metres or something?
#FromTheCapital
24-03-2014, 03:01 PM
Ended in the Indian ocean no survivors
Yeah I seen that, apparently new data has come to light and the last known location of the plane was in the middle of the Indian Ocean far away from any potential landing spot. The families were informed via text message. Still no debris recovered though, despite a couple of potential sightings.
The_Exile
24-03-2014, 03:57 PM
IMO, the pilot(s) knew there was no chance of survival, probably a decompression, so they've turned the plane out to sea so they wouldn't crash into land and cause more casualties?
Hibrandenburg
24-03-2014, 04:50 PM
IMO, the pilot(s) knew there was no chance of survival, probably a decompression, so they've turned the plane out to sea so they wouldn't crash into land and cause more casualties?
There's a fairly good chance of surviving a decompression providing the correct drills are followed. I don't think they were in this case. After a rapid decompression at high altitude you only have a few seconds of useful consciousness, I suspect the pilots didn't immediately put on their oxygen masks and lost consciousness after changing course.
Some airlines train their cabin crew to deal with a situation like this and I dread to think what went on in the cabin in the 20 mins after the decompression (if that's what happened).
The biggest mystery is how the hell with all the technology on board a Boeing 777 this aircraft virtually disappeared?
Sylar
25-03-2014, 09:42 AM
I get the distress of the entire situation but is it just me who finds the families' reaction beyond hysterical??
The plane ending up in the ocean with no survivors has always (IMO) been the likeliest outcome of this mysterious scenario and certainly statistically far more probable than having landed safely somewhere awaiting discovery.
Everybody's been in the dark and the airliner haven't had a wealth of information that they haven't shared.
I find the hysteria of the response and associated violence quite staggering, almost as if the families hadn't prepared for this inevitability.
Who am I to say how one should grieve in such a chaotic situation mind you...
JeMeSouviens
25-03-2014, 10:42 AM
Of course we would. If someone was 'making a point', terrorist or otherwise then we would definitely know about it by now.
That was my original reaction until someone pointed out to me that Lockerbie was never "claimed".
Jonnyboy
25-03-2014, 09:01 PM
I get the distress of the entire situation but is it just me who finds the families' reaction beyond hysterical??
The plane ending up in the ocean with no survivors has always (IMO) been the likeliest outcome of this mysterious scenario and certainly statistically far more probable than having landed safely somewhere awaiting discovery.
Everybody's been in the dark and the airliner haven't had a wealth of information that they haven't shared.
I find the hysteria of the response and associated violence quite staggering, almost as if the families hadn't prepared for this inevitability.
Who am I to say how one should grieve in such a chaotic situation mind you...
No. I do too. Contrast the kids of the Aussie couple on the flight. They're grieving but they're accepting the inevitable. Not at all sure what the Chinese relatives think is being hidden?
Bighoose
26-03-2014, 12:28 PM
No. I do too. Contrast the kids of the Aussie couple on the flight. They're grieving but they're accepting the inevitable. Not at all sure what the Chinese relatives think is being hidden?
Didnt catch whole interview but chap on C4 news last night was talking about the Chinese psyche and how they have been brought up to see other countries especially the smaller ones around them. Basically these countries are not to be trusted and anything they say is to be questioned, e.g. how can a small country like Malaysia of only 25 Million people know more than China, a "mighty" country of 1.2 Billion.
Its only in the last decade or so that the chinese have opened up to the outside world.
The_Exile
27-03-2014, 11:29 AM
They are a somewhat strange bunch of chaps and chapettes the from the far east. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome
Sergio sledge
27-03-2014, 11:34 AM
I get the distress of the entire situation but is it just me who finds the families' reaction beyond hysterical??
The plane ending up in the ocean with no survivors has always (IMO) been the likeliest outcome of this mysterious scenario and certainly statistically far more probable than having landed safely somewhere awaiting discovery.
Everybody's been in the dark and the airliner haven't had a wealth of information that they haven't shared.
I find the hysteria of the response and associated violence quite staggering, almost as if the families hadn't prepared for this inevitability.
Who am I to say how one should grieve in such a chaotic situation mind you...
The Chinese government haven't really help but insinuating that the Malaysians knew more than they were letting on and demanding that they hand over all the data they have. The people are only taking the lead from the government's reaction to it all.
Steve-O
28-03-2014, 09:10 PM
Sounds like the Kiwis have actually sighted some debris now. Mon the NZ!
Looks like they are going to find the plane soon?
DH1875
12-04-2014, 08:55 AM
Have they found it yet?
judas
22-04-2014, 06:13 PM
Any day now?
Does anyone think they will ever find this plane?
lord bunberry
18-12-2014, 05:37 PM
Does anyone think they will ever find this plane?
Eventually they will find it
DH1875
18-12-2014, 06:51 PM
Are they even still looking for it?
#FromTheCapital
18-12-2014, 07:05 PM
They're still looking, but I'm not sure they'll ever find it. There has to be a point where they draw the line and say enough is enough.
Billy Whizz
18-12-2014, 07:15 PM
They're still looking, but I'm not sure they'll ever find it. There has to be a point where they draw the line and say enough is enough.
They'll always look for it fortunately, the airline industry and the families will want to know what happened to it
CropleyWasGod
18-12-2014, 07:26 PM
They'll always look for it fortunately, the airline industry and the families will want to know what happened to it
Yep.
A similar thing happened with the AF plane that disappeared between Rio and Paris. Took years, and millions of dollars, but they found it.
#FromTheCapital
18-12-2014, 07:27 PM
They'll always look for it fortunately, the airline industry and the families will want to know what happened to it
True, but searches have been and will continue to be scaled down as time goes by. Has there been any precedent this with such a large passenger count?
CropleyWasGod
18-12-2014, 07:27 PM
True, but searches have been and will continue to be scaled down as time goes by. Has there been any precedent this with such a large passenger count?
See above :greengrin
#FromTheCapital
18-12-2014, 07:33 PM
See above :greengrin
:greengrin
Thats not not quite the same though. They found wreckage in the almost immediate aftermath with the Air France flight, it just took them years to find everything.
MH370 has completely vanished without a trace, is there such a high profile precedent?
Eventually they will find it
Have they found Amelia Earhart's yet?
Yep.
A similar thing happened with the AF plane that disappeared between Rio and Paris. Took years, and millions of dollars, but they found it.
That's right. It took two years and they had a good idea were it was headed.
lord bunberry
18-12-2014, 09:40 PM
Have they found Amelia Earhart's yet?
Her plane turned up in the delta quadrant
#FromTheCapital
18-12-2014, 11:01 PM
That's right. It took two years and they had a good idea were it was headed.
They also found some debris and bodies within 5 days of the plane going missing. Granted it took them a couple of years to find the black box recorders, but at least they knew for certain that the plane had crashed in the ocean.
This is a completely different situation - there is no trace of the plane or passengers 9 months and counting from the incident.
RyeSloan
19-12-2014, 11:17 PM
They also found some debris and bodies within 5 days of the plane going missing. Granted it took them a couple of years to find the black box recorders, but at least they knew for certain that the plane had crashed in the ocean. This is a completely different situation - there is no trace of the plane or passengers 9 months and counting from the incident.
Sure I read they found it in the Ukraine and it was all a cunning ploy by the Yanks to get Putin...or something like that.....
Bristolhibby
22-12-2014, 07:50 AM
Her plane turned up in the delta quadrant
Like
The_Exile
22-12-2014, 11:54 AM
Her plane turned up in the delta quadrant
One of my favourite episodes :thumbsup:
It's unreal that a plane can just disappear these days, everything's tracked and accounted for, a modern day mystery.
HibsMax
22-12-2014, 05:36 PM
Sure I read they found it in the Ukraine and it was all a cunning ploy by the Yanks to get Putin...or something like that.....
If you were to base your opinion on the comments on CNN you would think the plane has been hijacked and is currently being turned into a WMD which will be flown unchallenged into US air space and....you get the picture.
#FromTheCapital
22-12-2014, 06:26 PM
I can't understand why any passenger airplane gives the pilot the ability to simply switch off the radar signal. What possible benefit could that give to a passenger jet?
Billy Whizz
22-12-2014, 06:45 PM
I can't understand why any passenger airplane gives the pilot the ability to simply switch off the radar signal. What possible benefit could that give to a passenger jet?
I think most passenger jets switch them off when they're taxing
Billy Whizz
29-07-2015, 05:52 PM
See one of the newspapers is reporting that wreckage found off the African coast of Reunion, could be the wreckage of this plane.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/11771229/MH370-wreckage-found-on-Reunion-matches-Malaysia-Airlines-flight.html
Just Alf
29-07-2015, 08:28 PM
Had a good look at all the pics.... Looks a real possibility.... I wonder if they'll be able to extrapolate back to a rough crash area?
steakbake
29-07-2015, 11:26 PM
Wonder if it's that one that crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11?
(Conspiracy theory thread readers ken whits goin oan)
Is that more bits found?
Looks like were going to get some answers soon?
#FromTheCapital
02-08-2015, 11:50 AM
Is that more bits found?
Looks like were going to get some answers soon?
Reports that a door from an aircraft have washed up on reunion island as well.
I hope it is confirmed to be from MH370, to at least give the families some sense of closure. Although we may never know exactly what happened.
jonty
02-08-2015, 11:53 AM
seems a bit strange that, after a year, two items (or three including the 'bag') wash up on an island within days/hours of each other?
DH1875
02-08-2015, 06:40 PM
If the items aren't from the missing plane, where are they from?
Scouse Hibee
02-08-2015, 07:06 PM
Planted by the authorities.
Beefster
02-08-2015, 07:25 PM
seems a bit strange that, after a year, two items (or three including the 'bag') wash up on an island within days/hours of each other?
I wouldn't have thought so. Some expert was on the TV the other day saying that he had predicted, a while back, that debris would start washing up on Madagascar/Africa around this time, due to the ocean currents.
Haymaker
02-08-2015, 07:47 PM
Aliens.
jonty
02-08-2015, 07:53 PM
I wouldn't have thought so. Some expert was on the TV the other day saying that he had predicted, a while back, that debris would start washing up on Madagascar/Africa around this time, due to the ocean currents.
I'd have though they'd need to be similar weight etc to be able to turn up in the same areas at the same time.
(Although one if the items is now reported as a ladder, not from an aircraft).
If the first part is from a 777 which most experts appear to think it is, hopefully they'll be able to track it back as they've mentioned using the organisms found on it.
There was a report at the time the flight went missing of an aircraft flying low in a westerly direction from Indonesia, but that was discounted at the time mainly (I think) due to the satellite and sonar pings. I wonder if they'll go back and review it.
Either way I hope they get some closure.
Hibs Class
02-08-2015, 08:05 PM
seems a bit strange that, after a year, two items (or three including the 'bag') wash up on an island within days/hours of each other?
Is it that odd? The way I read it, after finding the wing part they then searched the rest of the island and found the second part. The island was always in the area of predicted drift based on assumed crash area and currents so it isn't strange that debris should be found there.
Hibrandenburg
02-08-2015, 10:21 PM
I'd have though they'd need to be similar weight etc to be able to turn up in the same areas at the same time.
(Although one if the items is now reported as a ladder, not from an aircraft).
If the first part is from a 777 which most experts appear to think it is, hopefully they'll be able to track it back as they've mentioned using the organisms found on it.
There was a report at the time the flight went missing of an aircraft flying low in a westerly direction from Indonesia, but that was discounted at the time mainly (I think) due to the satellite and sonar pings. I wonder if they'll go back and review it.
Either way I hope they get some closure.
If the aviation authorities are one thing then that's thorough, they'll spare nothing to get to the bottom of what happened.
Debris found confirmed to be from the missing plane
Seen that Gus.
Do you think the plane will now in time be found?
When you see some of the families of the dead in the media, is it just me or are they coming across very poor? One of them were saying they think its a lie... I accept it must be hard to move on but you would think after all this time people could now accept it was a plane crash and everyone on board passed? Am I been too harsh?
Sylar
06-08-2015, 08:08 AM
Seen that Gus.
Do you think the plane will now in time be found?
When you see some of the families of the dead in the media, is it just me or are they coming across very poor? One of them were saying they think its a lie... I accept it must be hard to move on but you would think after all this time people could now accept it was a plane crash and everyone on board passed? Am I been too harsh?
I can't see them finding it in all honesty - they can trace the ocean currents around Reunion and identify possible routes it might have originated from but the likelihood is that the vast majority of it is deep underwater and only the odd part of the aircraft stayed afloat. Even projecting it's flightpath and working out a possible impact zone and backtracking the debris, the possible search area would be huge.
I'm not sure how I would react if I were in the families' situation, but there's been an associated hysteria and paranoia since the flight went down that I've never really seen before. Possibly a cultural difference? The response has certainly been in stark contrast to the reaction when Air France went down off the coast of Brazil.
Even if they locate the fuselage, would that result in closure? If I recall correctly (and pardon the macabre nature of this part of my post), when they located some of the bodies in the fuselage of Air France and tried to surface them, they disintegrated during transit because they had been in the water so long. I sadly get the impression that the many Malaysian families would still refuse to believe it unless their loved ones were returned in tact. It's a considerable scale of denial.
Future17
06-08-2015, 11:15 AM
Seen that Gus.
Do you think the plane will now in time be found?
When you see some of the families of the dead in the media, is it just me or are they coming across very poor? One of them were saying they think its a lie... I accept it must be hard to move on but you would think after all this time people could now accept it was a plane crash and everyone on board passed? Am I been too harsh?
I think it's just a case of them feeling that they have been misled on numerous occasions already (and again now). Not knowing what happened to your missing loved ones must be an almost intolerable burden that you must face on a daily basis and the stress of that is bound to manifest itself in a variety of different ways for different people.
I think it's just a case of them feeling that they have been misled on numerous occasions already (and again now). Not knowing what happened to your missing loved ones must be an almost intolerable burden that you must face on a daily basis and the stress of that is bound to manifest itself in a variety of different ways for different people.
In what way have they been misled?
I think it has been clear since day one that the plane has crashed and everyone has been killed?
Billy Whizz
18-11-2023, 12:52 PM
This is all above my head, but worth a look. Think I might listen or watch the videos
https://hackernoon.com/deciphering-digital-trails-ashton-forbes-on-the-new-mh370-internet-investigation
DaveF
18-11-2023, 02:04 PM
This is all above my head, but worth a look. Think I might listen or watch the videos
https://hackernoon.com/deciphering-digital-trails-ashton-forbes-on-the-new-mh370-internet-investigation
I'm a bit confused by that. Is the guy claiming the plane is being hidden on Diego Garcia but at the same time also claiming it was hit by whatever those 3 orbs are?
Billy Whizz
18-11-2023, 02:45 PM
I'm a bit confused by that. Is the guy claiming the plane is being hidden on Diego Garcia but at the same time also claiming it was hit by whatever those 3 orbs are?
Something like that
Drone and satellite video of an airline being abducted by 3 spheres. U.S. surveillance assets recorded this event, which the poster claims they knew what they were doing
There’s a YouTube video if it all, when I have a moment I may watch/listen, but it’s all above my head
Suggesting they were teleported😀
DaveF
18-11-2023, 03:43 PM
Something like that
Drone and satellite video of an airline being abducted by 3 spheres. U.S. surveillance assets recorded this event, which the poster claims they knew what they were doing
There’s a YouTube video if it all, when I have a moment I may watch/listen, but it’s all above my head
Suggesting they were teleported😀
Ah, I see.
So it's not an explosion, it's the plane teleporting to Diego Garcia, where the plane, crew and passengers are currently living out their days in complete secrecy.
Hmmm...
Lendo
18-11-2023, 08:40 PM
I feel stupider for having read that
I didn't read it but have they said how a bit of the wing ended up on Reunion Island?
I've been there and it's the only time ever that Reunion Island has ever been heard of. They're very proud of their bit of wing 😆
AFKA5814_Hibs
18-11-2023, 09:43 PM
I had a very drunken conversation with my daughter at the time about my thoughts on what happened to the flight and I said to her it was aliens. She recorded it on her phone and played back the conversation the next day. It was after a day out in Glasgow after a defeat to Partick, the season we got relegated, I was in a very confused state at the time, that's my excuse.
Most definitely crashed into the sea IMO and was a pilot who instigated it.
Wish they would have found it though.
Allant1981
20-11-2023, 07:39 AM
I didn't read it but have they said how a bit of the wing ended up on Reunion Island?
I've been there and it's the only time ever that Reunion Island has ever been heard of. They're very proud of their bit of wing 😆
Is that not the island that didier agathe comes from also
Is that not the island that didier agathe comes from also
Yup.
Billy Whizz
09-03-2024, 05:55 PM
10 years ago yesterday
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