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3pm
04-03-2014, 06:31 PM
Wembley I see.

Could get close to 100,000 folk?

Pretty Boy
04-03-2014, 07:33 PM
Hoping to get down for it.

If it's as good as the 1st fight it will be well worth it. Fancy Groves to do it this time.

Haymaker
04-03-2014, 11:54 PM
Wembley?!

Will try to get tickets!

Steve-O
09-03-2014, 08:55 PM
Seems a bit on the large side?

Can't imagine it being that great being seated absolutely miles away from the ring either!

carnoustiehibee
10-03-2014, 11:29 AM
Managed to get tickets. The £110 were sold out in minutes. Can't wait the atmosphere will be amazing, there should be some cracking fights the undercard aswell.

I say Groves in 5

Pretty Boy
10-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Managed to get tickets. The £110 were sold out in minutes. Can't wait the atmosphere will be amazing, there should be some cracking fights the undercard aswell.

I say Groves in 5

Got £110 tickets. Delighted.

If the press conference today is anything to go by then Groves has got under Frochs' skin again.

paul_hfc3
10-03-2014, 02:54 PM
Froch pushing Groves at Wembley

http://i.imgur.com/0uDL4HX.gif

silverhibee
10-03-2014, 03:55 PM
I never got tickets :boo hoo:


Sold out, 60,000

3pm
10-03-2014, 07:15 PM
Got £110 tickets. Delighted.

If the press conference today is anything to go by then Groves has got under Frochs' skin again.

Where do you sit for £110?

Pretty Boy
10-03-2014, 07:21 PM
Where do you sit for £110?

Was my mate that bought them but as far as I'm aware it's on the pitch.

green&left
10-03-2014, 08:02 PM
Was my mate that bought them but as far as I'm aware it's on the pitch.

Block Z for me £110. Looking at the seating plan looks to be around the penalty spot/D of the 18 yard box. Hopefully not much back.

Around 20000 will be going on soon for the remainder of the upper tier. Was always the plan to stick 60,000 on sale first then release the others later after consulting transport for london etc according to Hearn on an interview.

Just travel and accommodation now.

Can't wait.

3pm
10-03-2014, 09:12 PM
Froch is rattled.

Haymaker
11-03-2014, 12:51 AM
Surprised at 60,000 gone so fast!

NOLA
11-03-2014, 02:07 AM
what an absolute plum Froch is for acting like that at the PR do, wouldnt surprise me if eddie hearn asked him to shove groves like that to ramp up the pre-fight interest, seems to have worked a treat though :wink: hope Groves takes him out properly this time.

3pm
01-05-2014, 07:06 PM
Boys were on Ringside tonight...

Hero76
01-05-2014, 07:24 PM
Froch will knock him out , the ref done Groves s favour in the 1st fight.

3pm
01-05-2014, 07:40 PM
Froch is rattled, I don't think he hold it together.

Pretty Boy
01-05-2014, 09:12 PM
Froch is rattled, I don't think he hold it together.

Agree.

I'm a bit biased because I've followed Groves since he was an amateur and always thought he would win a world title. But he's technically better than Froch, faster, hits harder and now has title fight experience. I think Froch knows this is a very loseable fight, it's a fight he never wanted and he's well rattled.

3pm
02-05-2014, 06:46 AM
Agree.

I'm a bit biased because I've followed Groves since he was an amateur and always thought he would win a world title. But he's technically better than Froch, faster, hits harder and now has title fight experience. I think Froch knows this is a very loseable fight, it's a fight he never wanted and he's well rattled.

When I was watching Ringside, I am sure that Eddie Hearn said 'only Carl Froch and I know what options we had....but we wanted to take this fight'.

Now I was under the impression that the IBF told Froch he had to fight Groves again. Which makes me think if that's the stuff Eddie Hearn is saying he / they must be very apprehensive.

Unless I am missing something...

IWasThere2016
02-05-2014, 09:10 AM
I think I heard Glenn McCrory says it's an 80,000 sell-out! That is phenom!

One for the SKY Box Office me thinks :thumbsup:

Frazerbob
02-05-2014, 09:24 AM
Just watched yesterday's Ringside. Froch seemed much more controlled this time but Groves is still getting to him. To me, Groves seems to be more genuine whenever he's on TV. Seems like an emotional guy but an honest guy. Froch has to work harder at how he comes across and sometimes he doesn't keep a lid on things.

Biggest UK fight since Eubank v Benn 2 for me (which I was at) and gutted I'm going to miss it due to being in Denmark for a wedding.

DaveF
02-05-2014, 11:06 AM
Agree.

I'm a bit biased because I've followed Groves since he was an amateur and always thought he would win a world title. But he's technically better than Froch, faster, hits harder and now has title fight experience. I think Froch knows this is a very loseable fight, it's a fight he never wanted and he's well rattled.

He's also giving away 10 or 12 years and home advantage. TBH, I'm not really that big a boxing fan, but Groves appears to me to be a right dickhead. All part of the game I guess....

3pm
02-05-2014, 04:00 PM
He's also giving away 10 or 12 years and home advantage. TBH, I'm not really that big a boxing fan, but Groves appears to me to be a right dickhead. All part of the game I guess....

I think Froch is the bigger dickhead out the two. I just can't take to the guy.

I think Groves has an unbelievable level of confidence in his own ability....I don't think it's even that arrogant, just supreme confidence.

Haymaker
02-05-2014, 05:37 PM
Reckon Froch knows he lost and will lose again.

silverhibee
03-05-2014, 09:23 PM
What time is the Mayweather fight likely to start at.?

Pretty Boy
03-05-2014, 09:27 PM
It's scheduled for 2.30ish so I'd expect about 3/3.30.

Khan fight is the main undercard fight.

silverhibee
03-05-2014, 09:48 PM
It's scheduled for 2.30ish so I'd expect about 3/3.30.

Khan fight is the main undercard fight.


Cheers PB. :aok:

Will have to stay up for a good night of boxing. :thumbsup:

lugz
04-05-2014, 05:51 AM
No surprise that mayweather got the win. Again 1 judge embarrassing himself calling that a draw.

Shouts for a rematch which is just silly, mayweather wins every time.

Pretty Boy
04-05-2014, 06:08 AM
Absolutely cracking fight. Hardest Mayweather has been pushed in a long time, probably since Castillo. Was close but he clearly won by 2 or 3 rounds imo.

The stats don't lie. Mayweather threw 424 punches and landed 230, Maidana threw 850+ and landed 226. From round 7 almost every clean shot cane from Mayweather.

jw1875
04-05-2014, 01:54 PM
I had it 8-4 or 7-5 mayweather. Maidana started off great but Floyd did what he always does - figures the other guy out then picks them off.

Maidana always felt to me like he'd do something crazy and lose points.

As for the draw judge. What do these people see?

Maidana has to have a rematch. There's not really anyone to fight in September. Khan has Ramadan and PAC won't happen.


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NOLA
05-05-2014, 04:20 PM
I had it 8-4 or 7-5 mayweather. Maidana started off great but Floyd did what he always does - figures the other guy out then picks them off.

Maidana always felt to me like he'd do something crazy and lose points.

As for the draw judge. What do these people see?

Maidana has to have a rematch. There's not really anyone to fight in September. Khan has Ramadan and PAC won't happen.


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probably been answered before but why wont mayweather fight pacman?

Pretty Boy
05-05-2014, 05:04 PM
probably been answered before but why wont mayweather fight pacman?

There's a million and one reasons, some petty, some serious.

Mayweather hates Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, who is Pacquaios promoter. No one really knows the full story but Mayweather insists Arum owes him a lot of money from early on in his career and ripped him off big time and he won't work with him again. I tend to believe there is some truth in that reason. Mayweather was accused of 'ducking' Miguel Cotto for about 2 years as he refused to fight him whilst Arum promoted him. As soon as Cotto split from Arum the fight happened.

Freddie Roach recently admitted that himself and Pacquaio turned down the only solid offer for the fight. Mayweather offered a flat $40M but Pacquaio et al felt they were worth more than that. Since then he firmly blames Mayweather for it not happening.

There have been a load of excuses thrown back and forward but I think the key reason is that neither wants to be seen as the one who backed down and neither wants to lose. Personally I've never thought Pacquaio could beat Mayweather, still don't, but it would have been nice to have had it answered definitively.

NOLA
05-05-2014, 10:03 PM
There's a million and one reasons, some petty, some serious.

Mayweather hates Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, who is Pacquaios promoter. No one really knows the full story but Mayweather insists Arum owes him a lot of money from early on in his career and ripped him off big time and he won't work with him again. I tend to believe there is some truth in that reason. Mayweather was accused of 'ducking' Miguel Cotto for about 2 years as he refused to fight him whilst Arum promoted him. As soon as Cotto split from Arum the fight happened.

Freddie Roach recently admitted that himself and Pacquaio turned down the only solid offer for the fight. Mayweather offered a flat $40M but Pacquaio et al felt they were worth more than that. Since then he firmly blames Mayweather for it not happening.

There have been a load of excuses thrown back and forward but I think the key reason is that neither wants to be seen as the one who backed down and neither wants to lose. Personally I've never thought Pacquaio could beat Mayweather, still don't, but it would have been nice to have had it answered definitively.
manny doesnt have an unbeaten record on the line too;) i just thought mayweather doesnt want to lose his record and he thinks pacman could be the one who does him

3pm
26-05-2014, 06:25 PM
I think Froch wins the battle on Sky's 'The gloves are off'.

Pretty Boy
26-05-2014, 07:13 PM
I think Froch wins the battle on Sky's 'The gloves are off'.

Indeed.

Seems to have finally managed to stop letting Groves wind him up. Sports psychologist must be earning his cash.

Fly down to London on Friday evening. Can't wait.

easty
26-05-2014, 08:12 PM
Indeed.

Seems to have finally managed to stop letting Groves wind him up. Sports psychologist must be earning his cash.

Fly down to London on Friday evening. Can't wait.

I'm jealous. I'm still hoping for a Froch win by KO, but I think Groves will prob win it.

The_Exile
27-05-2014, 11:21 AM
Froch will destroy him within 6 rounds, thing is, I want Groves to win! I'm expecting something similar to Gatti - Ward, can't see it going the distance.

IWasThere2016
27-05-2014, 11:43 AM
What time is the fight scheduled to start guys? Thinking of PPV but I need to pick the Mrs up on Saturday night (and with my luck this will clash with the fight!)

Pretty Boy
27-05-2014, 12:14 PM
What time is the fight scheduled to start guys? Thinking of PPV but I need to pick the Mrs up on Saturday night (and with my luck this will clash with the fight!)

Box Office programme starts at 6.

I'm expecting Froch v Groves ringwalks to start about 9.30ish.

Allant1981
27-05-2014, 12:37 PM
Pretty sure eddie hearn said fight scheduled to start at 10 so yip ring walk will be about half 9

lugz
27-05-2014, 09:34 PM
Said I wouldn't watch the fight after the first fight but with the build up you can't help but be gripped.

Can't stand Eddy Hearn but he's some business man.

Unfortunately think Froch will win with a stoppage, really hope I'm wrong.

IWasThere2016
29-05-2014, 03:30 PM
Box Office programme starts at 6.

I'm expecting Froch v Groves ringwalks to start about 9.30ish.


Pretty sure eddie hearn said fight scheduled to start at 10 so yip ring walk will be about half 9

Cheers lads :thumbsup:

Steve-O
30-05-2014, 11:19 PM
On Sky box office here in NZ, but for free! Happy with that!

HUTCHYHIBBY
31-05-2014, 02:00 PM
I hope I'm very much mistaken, but, I've got a strange feeling this could end up in a huge anti-climax.

3pm
31-05-2014, 04:04 PM
Froch in 7.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 05:34 PM
Anthony Joshua just about to start.

His fights been allocated 15 minutes so obviously expecting another KO.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 05:38 PM
Joshua KO inside a minute and a half.

Tbf the other guy loaded up with a few big shots and had a go but Joshua caught him with a big uppercut to finish it.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 06:48 PM
Jamie McDonell by KO in 10. Now a world champion.

Kevin Mitchell up next.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 07:34 PM
Kevin Mitchell TKO in 11.

Was in real trouble but stepped it up in 11 and picked off an exhausted opponent.

IWasThere2016
31-05-2014, 07:34 PM
Some recovery from Mitchell! :agree:

Mon Dieu4
31-05-2014, 07:43 PM
Been a good event to watch so far, De Gale is always worth a watch too

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 08:06 PM
Very early stoppage there imo.

Good finish by Degale though, didn't think he was that impressive outwith the 1st round and the finish though.

silverhibee
31-05-2014, 08:10 PM
DeGale came out flying, thought the ref jumped in to quick to stop it.

Mon Dieu4
31-05-2014, 08:10 PM
Far too early that one

Derry Hibee
31-05-2014, 08:17 PM
Too early for Degale fight, not seen anyone stopped after a miss before :). He was gonna knock him out though, best I've seen him fight.

Derry Hibee
31-05-2014, 08:19 PM
Jamie McDonell by KO in 10. Now a world champion.

Kevin Mitchell up next.

2-tome world champ, doesn't get the credit he deserves IMO. Good performance.

Allant1981
31-05-2014, 08:21 PM
Some good fights tonight, hopefully the main fight is a cracker

silverhibee
31-05-2014, 08:23 PM
good body shots

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 08:31 PM
Already had the obligatory boxing crowd scraps as well.

silverhibee
31-05-2014, 08:35 PM
Already had the obligatory boxing crowd scraps as well.

How can folk just not go and have a good night, bams

Derry Hibee
31-05-2014, 08:45 PM
Already had the obligatory boxing crowd scraps as well.

Was at the Alex Arthur v Gomez fight when the riot police had to come in, mental haha

IWasThere2016
31-05-2014, 09:14 PM
Two even rounds so far...

IWasThere2016
31-05-2014, 09:18 PM
Two even rounds so far...

Froch just takes 3rd for me..

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 09:38 PM
What. A. Finish.

I thought Groves was starting to take it but that punch was stunning.

easty
31-05-2014, 09:38 PM
What a punch!

Mon Dieu4
31-05-2014, 09:38 PM
What a ****ing punch, boooooom

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 09:39 PM
Groves is out on his feet here. Looks in really bad shape.

Haymaker
31-05-2014, 09:40 PM
thats boxing! Sometimes one hit and it's over! Looked a hard one, Groves is being attended too

easty
31-05-2014, 09:41 PM
Wow! The replay is brilliant. Couldn't have caught him better.

IWasThere2016
31-05-2014, 09:49 PM
Some KO. Fancied Froch in 5/6.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 09:58 PM
I had it

10 9 Groves
10 9 Groves
9 10 Froch
10 10 even
9 10 Froch
9 10 Froch
10 9 Groves

67 67 with Groves winning the 8th until the KO

Billy
31-05-2014, 09:58 PM
The KO:

https://vine.co/v/MpagjuJUblE

Allant1981
31-05-2014, 10:02 PM
I had it

10 9 Groves
10 9 Groves
9 10 Froch
10 10 even
9 10 Froch
9 10 Froch
10 9 Groves

67 67 with Groves winning the 8th until the KO

Cant agree about the 1st 2, thought it was pretty even if not edged by froch

silverhibee
31-05-2014, 10:04 PM
The KO:

https://vine.co/v/MpagjuJUblE


Boom

Cracking punch, Groves would never have recovered from that.

Froch experience showed tonight.

Pretty Boy
31-05-2014, 10:07 PM
Cant agree about the 1st 2, thought it was pretty even if not edged by froch

Difficult to judge until seeing again. Jusy thought Groves was a bit tidier in 2 pretty tense rounds.

I've seen all kinds of scores. World Boxing News had Groves up by 1 round, Richie Woodhall had Groves by 1, Steve Bunce had Froch by 1.

All irrelevant now though.

easty
31-05-2014, 10:08 PM
Cant agree about the 1st 2, thought it was pretty even if not edged by froch

Yeah. Me too.

Sergey
31-05-2014, 10:09 PM
Difficult to judge until seeing again. Jusy thought Groves was a bit tidier in 2 pretty tense rounds.

I've seen all kinds of scores. World Boxing News had Groves up by 1 round, Richie Woodhall had Groves by 1, Steve Bunce had Froch by 1.

All irrelevant now though.

Indeed - FWIW, I had the fight as a tie prior to the KO.

Allant1981
31-05-2014, 10:12 PM
Difficult to judge until seeing again. Jusy thought Groves was a bit tidier in 2 pretty tense rounds.

I've seen all kinds of scores. World Boxing News had Groves up by 1 round, Richie Woodhall had Groves by 1, Steve Bunce had Froch by 1.

All irrelevant now though.

It was very close although amir khan had groves winning comfortably somehow

HUTCHYHIBBY
31-05-2014, 11:49 PM
Watched the fight in Mathers at the west end, very underwhelmed. A bunch of mouthy young weegie fuds just made it even worse.

3pm
01-06-2014, 09:04 AM
Watched the fight in Mathers at the west end, very underwhelmed. A bunch of mouthy young weegie fuds just made it even worse.

Usually a decent boozer Hutchy.

matty_f
01-06-2014, 09:18 AM
I thought Froch was edging it but not by much, the fight was definitely looking like it was swinging in Groves' favour though. Some punch to finish it, I don't think anyone would have stayed up after getting hit like that.

There was something good about seeing the ageing champion putting a young upstart in his place.:agree:

The_Exile
01-06-2014, 09:47 AM
That was a champions punch that! His swansong will be Chavez in Vegas next year.

HUTCHYHIBBY
01-06-2014, 09:52 AM
Usually a decent boozer Hutchy.

Sorry, I meant underwhelmed by the fight.

Pretty Boy
01-06-2014, 10:14 AM
That was a champions punch that! His swansong will be Chavez in Vegas next year.

I think he might take the DeGale fight now that he is his mandatory for the IBF.

Whilst I doubt that would see 80 000 interested again, it might drum up enough interest to fill the City Ground in Nottingham, a long time ambition for Froch. Tough fight though but another big pay day.

If he wins that as IBF and WBA Champion he's bringing a lot to the table in the US. He could then finish his career in Vegas with either a rematch with Ward or a fight with Chavez jr.

As for Groves I don't think he comes out of this too badly. He's matched a world class operator for most of 2 fights. He's signed a deal with Sauerland Promotions so reckon he'll go after the European belt to get a few wins and build his confidence again. A bit more experience and he'll get another chance at a world title imo.

Sergey
01-06-2014, 11:00 AM
I think he might take the DeGale fight now that he is his mandatory for the IBF.

Whilst I doubt that would see 80 000 interested again, it might drum up enough interest to fill the City Ground in Nottingham, a long time ambition for Froch. Tough fight though but another big pay day.



I don't think that fight will happen as it'll be a miss-match. While not doubting DeGale has talent, he isn't in the same league as Froch and Froch could quite easily give him a battering.

A rematch between DeGale and Groves somewhere down the line is probably more likely.

That being said, Froch is running out of opponents and if the DeGale fight is the only one on the table then it might happen.

I wouldn't rule out a Froch/Ward unification rematch either (maybe in Vegas?)

The_Exile
02-06-2014, 02:14 PM
I think he might take the DeGale fight now that he is his mandatory for the IBF.

Would be amazed if this happens, the Froch v Groves rematch only happened due to the unprecedented interest and demand from the public. If there's one thing I've learnt whilst watching boxing since I was a nipper, it's that money talks, not so much on the fighters part (Froch could walk away now and never be able to spend all his money), but the promoters and TV people, they make the fights, they follow the cash, always.

Pretty Boy
02-06-2014, 04:28 PM
Would be amazed if this happens, the Froch v Groves rematch only happened due to the unprecedented interest and demand from the public. If there's one thing I've learnt whilst watching boxing since I was a nipper, it's that money talks, not so much on the fighters part (Froch could walk away now and never be able to spend all his money), but the promoters and TV people, they make the fights, they follow the cash, always.

Indeed.

I didn't realise because Froch has faced his last 2 IBF mandatories he doesn't have to take the DeGale fight but can still keep his belt.

With that being the case I agree there is no chance that fight will happen.

silverhibee
04-06-2014, 06:33 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Mayweather will fight Khan at Wembley..

Haymaker
04-06-2014, 06:50 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Mayweather will fight Khan at Wembley..

Doubt Money would leave Las Vegas!

silverhibee
04-06-2014, 07:12 PM
Doubt Money would leave Las Vegas!

Seems Wembley is now the mecca of boxing.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/floyd-mayweather-agrees-amir-khan-fight-wembley-stadium-1451168

3pm
04-06-2014, 07:18 PM
Amir Khan - legend in his own lunchtime!

easty
04-06-2014, 11:29 PM
It's hard for me to decide if I'd want Mayweather to knock Khan out early, or give him a right good beating over a few rounds then knock him out.

Haymaker
04-06-2014, 11:50 PM
Seems Wembley is now the mecca of boxing.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/floyd-mayweather-agrees-amir-khan-fight-wembley-stadium-1451168

Well I wasnt expecting that. Khan will get destroyed but make a fair wedge.

jw1875
12-06-2014, 05:29 PM
That's just Floyd keeping UK fans buying Ppv until he retires. He always talks of the uk fans. Has he ever been in the uk?

He'll never leave Vegas for a fight.