Missing top six

[mjhibby]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

[Andy74]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

Don't agree.

[Sir David Gray]

I don't care about getting another derby.

Finishing bottom six should be viewed as an embarrassment to a club like Hibs and being in the top six is a bare minimum for us.

[EskbankHibee]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

Any idea what the difference in prize money would be though?

[Eyrie]

Nope.

Making the top six is always better than another home derby. But whilst the top six is still a realistic objective for this season, we should be aiming higher than that every year.

[Ronniekirk]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

Think it's too early to say that Yes three defeats have been a set back but February is a big month for us now and if we go on unbeaten run again and other results go our way we are right back in mix for 6th. Will ICT go into free fall ? Can United s young guns recover form or are they going to remain inconsistent , and will St Johnstone hold on to May . Transfer window could well help shape top six but don't give up on it just now

[Hibercelona]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

Finishing in the the bottom six would be bad enough. Setting ourselves up for a last derby humiliation would be even worse.

[Bronson]

Still what, 9 games till the split? Plenty time to get ourselves in the top 6. Bottom 6 is a failure in my eyes.

[Aldo]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

Long way to go and we need a vast improvement if we are make top six.

It does look highly unlikely but it's not over until it's mathematically impossible.

FWIW I'm more than happy with officially relegating them on 29th March and there would be no need to play them again.

[EastCalderHibby]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

You having a laugh if the s...e are doon they wont came to er

[semaj64]

Still what, 9 games till the split? Plenty time to get ourselves in the top 6. Bottom 6 is a failure in my eyes.

Agree

[SMAXXA]

I actually don't think it would be as much a disaster as people believe. Is it an embarrassment, not sure it is given where we've been last few years and we have got a new manager finding his feet at the club. We would have the opportunity to blood some more youngsters and put the foundations in for next season. If we make the top six we ain't gona get Europe or anywhere near the top 4 so what's the big achievement and desire to finish in the top 6 with the state we we in player wide. I also believe the top 6 is a bit of a sham and Kop out as it's portrayed as some sort of achievement when it really isn't IMO. We aren't that great a side so for me it makes little difference if we are average to poor in the top half or bottom.

i do feel that it's wrong to write the season of, of course we still want to win as many games as we can and we have the carrot of a run in the Scottish to play for, but as for the whole top 6 thing, I'm not as passionate as maybe some others are, for this season as it stands.

if bottom 6 helps us in hype long term well I'm ok with that.

[jacomo]

Still what, 9 games till the split? Plenty time to get ourselves in the top 6. Bottom 6 is a failure in my eyes.

:agree:

Finishing top six will reduce pressure on Hibs, not increase it. And would set us up better for a busy summer and next season.

I think it is doable - we've had a bad run since the derby but surely capable of getting wins.

[Weir7]

Not making the top six might not be such a bad thing. For a start we will get another derby and if they win a couple more games it could be the game that sends them down. Terry could also use the post split games to get hhis right formation for next season with little or no pressure. There is only about 90 grand between sixth and seventh which the derby would more than cover. Every cloud etc etc.

My friend for me that's why our club continues to fail. The thought of not making top 6 is acceptable is one of the reasons.

SPL is a very poor poor league. No Huns. SUCMBOS all but dead. And we may not get in top 6.

Farmer should clear the place out.

[Ozyhibby]

Finishing outside the top 6 again would be a disgrace. No amount of 'looking to the future' will convince me otherwise.
No wonder we are so poor when our fans ask so little in term of achievement.

[B.H.F.C]

Can't believe anyone would ever think that finishing lower in the league could have its positives. Bottom 6 again is an embarassing thought. It would be our 4th season on the bounce in the bottom 6 which is absolutely horrendous.

On a positive note we don't have to play Celtic again and they will win most of their games so it should open up a chance to gain points on teams at some point. Our next two in the league are Ross County and Killie. We need to take a minimum of 4 points from those two games for me. Unbeaten against them both this year so it's a good opportunity.

No league game for three weeks and I think that comes at a good time get players back, hopefully one or two in as well and we have a chance of a strong finish. It's been disappointing following the derby result so we need to get back winning ASAP.

[SMAXXA]

Finishing outside the top 6 again would be a disgrace. No amount of 'looking to the future' will convince me otherwise.
No wonder we are so poor when our fans ask so little in term of achievement.

what kind of achievement is top 6 in your view, not a dig mate just interested to know as I'm not as adamant about it but open to being converted.

[Alfred E Newman]

Any idea what the difference in prize money would be though?

I think last couple of seasons were around 75k per place . So a couple of places higher in the league and it's 150k, the money we allegedly couldn't find for a certain striker last year.

[Heisenberg]

I want us to finish as high up the table as possible. We are by no means out of getting into the top six either. St Johnstone will fall apart if they sell May.

[B.H.F.C]

Finishing outside the top 6 again would be a disgrace. No amount of 'looking to the future' will convince me otherwise.
No wonder we are so poor when our fans ask so little in term of achievement.

I agree. Yes I want to build for the future but I'd also like some value for the £400 I paid for my season ticket this year as well.

[allezsauzee]

I would much rather we finished top 6. Hertz will be relegated well before the split

[down-the-slope]

Any idea what the difference in prize money would be though?

Bet you are glad you asked :greengrin


The team finishing top of Scotland’s second tier could make almost £1m more than present under plans to restructure the country’s football leagues.
The financial distribution model for the 12-12-18 plan has been revealed by Kilmarnock in a document released to supporters, as the SPL and SFL attempt to push forward their proposal in time for next season.
It shows the teams finishing in the top two positions in the top flight will stand to lose a near-combined £1m, sides finishing third to eighth taking a small hit, and teams from places nine to 24 in the country standing to make more cash.
A team winning promotion to the top flight from the First Division currently earns £68,000 in prize money. Under the new plans, they could make £387,000, should they win both the Championship and also the play-off league in the second half of the season.
Teams from positions 25 to 42 under the new system stand to make no additional money than at present. The winner of the “National League”, would make £54,000, the same amount the team currently finishing fifth in the Second Division earns.
Provision is also made in the proposals for any additional revenue made by the league to be redistributed in three stages.
The first extra £900,000 made by the league would be given to the clubs participating in the "Play-off 8" league, with the winners gaining an additional £200,000 and the bottom club adding £25,000 to their total.
The next £200,000 made over and above the initial £900,000 would be distributed evenly amongst the bottom 18 clubs, with each gaining an additional £11,100.
If a further £900,000 is made, it will be divided between the "Premiership 8", with the season winners adding £200,000 and the team finishing eighth gaining £25,000.
The current SPL stands to surrender a total of £1,309,000 in total prize money, with £1,751,000 reallocated to the nation’s next 12 clubs.
FINANCIAL DISTRIBUTION BREAKDOWN
New model
The proposal shown by Kilmarnock highlights two possible distribution amounts, presumably based on discussions currently being held over TV and sponsorship deals. The percentages remain the same.
This example uses the current SPL prize pot of £17,965,000 per season.
Premiership
1 £2,405,000 (-£315,000)
2 £1,718,000 (-£682,000)
3 £1,460,000 (-£60,000)
4 £1,289,000 (-£71,000)
5 £1,203,000 (-£77,000)
6 £1,117,000 (-£83,000)
7 £1,057,000 (-£63,000)
8 £1,005,000 (-£35,000)
9 £988,000 (+£28,000)
10 £902,000 (+£22,000)
11 £816,000 (+£16,000)
12 £730,000 (+£10,000)
Championship
13 £387,000 (+£319,000)
14 £344,000 (+£277,000)
15 £301,000 (+£235,000)
16 £258,000 (+£193,000)
17 £241,000 (+£177,000)
18 £189,000 (+£121,000)
19 £172,000 (+£111,000)
20 £155,000 (+£95,000)
21 £137,000 (+£78,000)
22 £120,000 (+£63,000)
23 £103,000 (+£47,000)
24 £86,000 (+£31,000)
National League
25 £54,000
26 £53,000
27 £51,000
28 £50,000
29 £49,000
30 £48,000
31 £47,000
32 £45,000
33 £44,000
34 £43,000
35 £42,000
36 £40,000
37 £39,000
38 £38,000
39 £37,000
40 £36,000
41 £34,000
42 £33,000
ADDITIONAL REVENUES
The first £900,000 made will be distributed as follows amongst "Championship 8" clubs at the end of phase two.
1 £200,000
2 £175,000
3 £150,000
4 £125,000
5 £100,000
6 £75,000
7 £50,000
8 £25,000
The next £200,000 made in additional to the base distribution would be distributed amongst "National League" clubs on an even basis, with each club making £11,100 more.
The next £900,000 made will be distributed as follows amongst "Premiership 8" clubs at the end of phase two.
1 £200,000
2 £175,000
3 £150,000
4 £125,000
5 £100,000
6 £75,000
7 £50,000
8 £25,000
For every £1,000,000 made over and above this amount, it will be distributed based on league positions as follows.
1 £134,000
2 £96,000
3 £81,000
4 £72,000
5 £67,000
6 £62,000
7 £59,000
8 £56,000
9 £55,000
10 £50,000
11 £45,000
12 £41,000
13 £22,000
14 £19,000
15 £17,000
16 £14,000
17 £13,000
18 £11,000
19 £10,000
20 £9,000
21 £8,000
22 £7,000
23 £6,000
24 £5,000
25 £3,000
26 £3,000
27 £3,000
28 £3,000
29 £3,000
30 £3,000
31 £3,000
32 £3,000
33 £2,000
34 £2,000
35 £2,000
36 £2,000
37 £2,000
38 £2,000
39 £2,000
40 £2,000
41 £2,000
42 £2,000

[SouthamptonHibs]

It would be a disgrace if Hibs never finished in top six. In a league with no cream buns and Hearts on -15 it's the equivalent of finishing 9th or below as both these teams under normal circumstances would be in top six.

Our fourth year in a row in bottom six = shocking!

We have 9 games left b4 split. I think we need 17pts to 20pts out of next 27 available to have any chance of getting top 6. The way we are leaking goals it will be hard.

We need the additional revenue from league placing to help strengthen the squad.

Hibs fans also need a boost for next season. Four years out of top six will not sit well with the fans.
Season ticket sales are likely to drop next season as no Hearts or Rangers plus Hibs will be on the tv most weeks with daft Ko times fri night, sat afternoon and Sunday afternoons which always annoys the fans.

A big few weeks ahead.

Must do things to make a decent season
1. Stay in cup to at least semi
2. Top six finish
3. Beat Hearts at a tynie

Anything less than that between now and April is a disgrace of a season

[GreenCastle]

Top 6 = more money and better away crowds at ER in the home and away ends = more money next year?

I do not want to finish bottom 6 in a league with a crap yams team and no sevco - again!!

Looking at the fixtures we certainly have some winnable games coming up..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/fixtures

22nd March we also travel to play St Johnstone

[yekimevol]

We have been in the bottom six to long, I want top 5 minimum with a push for a euro spot.

[EskbankHibee]

Thanks downtheslope!

So there isn't a great difference between places. Missing out on the top 6 wouldn't be a disaster IMO. This season is a write off anyway

[Hibernia Na Eir]

Rod HAS to deliver before the end of this month for Terry and the fans' sake. Top 6 is an absolute minimum.

[yeezus.]

I want us to finish as high up the table as possible. We are by no means out of getting into the top six either. St Johnstone will fall apart if they sell May.

:agree: it looks very likely that will happen. I actually would rather see us finish in the top 6 and I'm not that bothered about another derby at Easter Road.

[Bronson]

Top 6 = more money and better away crowds at ER in the home and away ends = more money next year?

I do not want to finish bottom 6 in a league with a crap yams team and no sevco - again!!

Looking at the fixtures we certainly have some winnable games coming up..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/hibernian/fixtures

22nd March we also travel to play St Johnstone

All winnable games in my eyes. Had a wee look at St Johnstone's run in, some tricky games for them including trips to Pittodrie and Darkheid. Definitely an opportunity to overtake them.