Average Attendances

[H18sry]

2011-12 = season average
2012-13 = season average
2013-14 = season average thus far


Premiership
2011-12 = 13,865
2012-13 = 10,022 ... down 3,843 (27.7%)
2013-14 = 10,284 ... up 262 (2.7%) ... since 2011-12: down 3,581 (25.8%)

Of course this mainly reflects the fact Rangers home crowds are gone


Aberdeen
2011-12 = 9,297
2012-13 = 9,611 ... up 314 (3.4%)
2013-14 = 12,428 ... up 2,817 (29.3%) ... since 2011-12: up 3,131 (33.7%)

Celtic
2011-12 = 50,904
2012-13 = 46,917 ... down 3,987 (7.8%)
2013-14 = 47,173 .... up 256 (0.6%) ... since 2011-12: down 3,731 (7.3%)

Dundee United
2011-12 = 7,482
2012-13 = 7,547 ... up 65 (0.9%)
2013-14 = 7,748 ... up 201 (2.7%) ... since 2011-12: up 266 (3.6%)

Heart of Midlothian
2011-12 = 13,381
2012-13 = 13,163 ... down 218 (1.6%)
2013-14 = 14,043 ... up 880 (6.7%) ... since 2011-12: up 662 (5%)

Hibernian
2011-12 = 9,909
2012-13 = 10,489 ... up 580 (5.9%)
2013-14 = 11,106 ... up 617 (5.9%) ... since 2011-12: up 1,197 (12.1%)

Inverness CT
2011-12 = 4,023
2012-13 = 4,038 ... up 15 (0.4%)
2013-14 = 3,854 ... down 184 (4.5%) ... since 2011-12: down 169 (4.2%)

Kilmarnock
2011-12 = 5,537
2012-13 = 4,647 ... down 890 (16%)
2013-14 = 4,159 ... down 488 (10.5%) ... since 2011-12: down 1,378 (24.8%)

Motherwell
2011-12 = 5,951
2012-13 = 5,362 ... down 589 (9.8%)
2013-14 = 5,145 ... down 217 (4%) ... since 2011-12: down 806 (13.5%)

Partick Thistle
2011-12 = 2,345 [SFL1]
2012-13 = 3,614 [SFL1] ... up 1,269 (54.2%)
2013-14 = 5,332 ... up 1,718 (47.6%) ... since 2011-12: up 2,987 (127.4%)

Ross County
2011-12 = 2,874 [SFL1]
2012-13 = 4,430 ... up 1,556 (54.2%)
2013-14 = 3,723 ... down 707 (15.9%) ... since 2011-12: up 849 (29.6%)

St Johnstone
2011-12 = 4,170
2012-13 = 3,712 ... down 458 (10.9%)
2013-14 = 4,183 ... up 471 (12.7%) ... since 2011-12: up 13 (0.3%)

St Mirren
2011-12 = 4,493
2012-13 = 4,389 ... down 104 (2.3%)
2013-14 = 4,465 ... up 76 (1.8%) ... since 2011-12: down 28 (0.6%)


Nice to see our growing :thumbsup:

[The_Todd]

Armageddon at its finest.

[Sergey]

Kilmarnock and Motherwell don't make for good reading, but that dispels the myth about the Huns and their support.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Surprised at the crowds for Partick Thistle. Wonder what they would get if they had the team that Motherwell or ICT have.

[The Sea-gull]

Surprised at the crowds for Partick Thistle. Wonder what they would get if they had the team that Motherwell or ICT have.

Thistle's crowds will be buoyed by the novelty of being in the SPL for the first time in a while.

Perhaps the trends of the clubs from the smaller towns attendances dwindling compared to the city clubs is reflective of the economic situation affecting these towns more than it has affceted the cities.

[Saorsa]

Kilmarnock and Motherwell don't make for good reading, but that dispels the myth about the Huns and their support.Indeed. then there's other teams who put out fantasy figures. :agree:

[Islington Hibs]

With the exceptions of Motherwell and Kilmarnock everyone else stable or up. Loss of Rangers has not mattered a jot and made for a better league. Now only Celtic to kick out...... Our crowds look pretty good considering how poor we have been over the last 4 or 5 years.....

[Cabbage East]

Someone should email that to those bellends Doncaster and Reagan and ask them to comment.

Armageddon my ring.

[Keith_M]

Celtc, Well and Kilmarnock seem to be the teams most affected by the lack of visiting Rangers fans, so it seems to be a purely West Coast thing. If Celtc were honest about their attendances, you'd see the effect for them is far worse than they admit.

Partick you can't really count in any of this.

[Vini1875]

Celtc, Well and Kilmarnock seem to be the teams most affected by the lack of visiting Rangers fans, so it seems to be a purely West Coast thing. If Celtc were honest about their attendances, you'd see the effect for them is far worse than they admit.

Partick you can't really count in any of this.

But in reality these figures are not about actual attendances and more about tickets bought, which means most clubs have lost nothing or very little from the demise of the huns. I wonder if the teams from the lower leagues have gained much from the inclusion of the huns. I would bet for all their self importance, they don't add much to Scottish football or take much away from it. They are in effect only important to themselves and celtc.

[ballengeich]

Someone should email that to those bellends Doncaster and Reagan and ask them to comment.

Armageddon my ring.

Armageddon was never about visiting Rangers' crowds. The loss of income from that was a measurable and manageable percentage of other clubs' income. The bigger fear was the effect on sponsorship and the SPFL hasn't yet secured a main sponsor. We'll never know whether that would be different if Sevco had managed to stay in the top division - it may just as easily be due to general economic conditions or to the marketing ineptitued of the league's executives.

The crowd figures are quite encouraging.

[marinello59]

With the exceptions of Motherwell and Kilmarnock everyone else stable or up. Loss of Rangers has not mattered a jot and made for a better league. Now only Celtic to kick out...... Our crowds look pretty good considering how poor we have been over the last 4 or 5 years.....

Is it a better league? We replaced a two horse race with a one horse race.

[SanFranHibs]

Thistle's crowds will be buoyed by the novelty of being in the SPL for the first time in a while.

Perhaps the trends of the clubs from the smaller towns attendances dwindling compared to the city clubs is reflective of the economic situation affecting these towns more than it has affceted the cities.

By the thought that they had a good shot at staying up as they started with 15 points ahead of our dearest neighbours.

:flag:

[jgl07]

Is it a better league? We replaced a two horse race with a one horse race.
It has replaced one crap League with another crap League.

[Cabbage East]

Armageddon was never about visiting Rangers' crowds. The loss of income from that was a measurable and manageable percentage of other clubs' income. The bigger fear was the effect on sponsorship and the SPFL hasn't yet secured a main sponsor. We'll never know whether that would be different if Sevco had managed to stay in the top division - it may just as easily be due to general economic conditions or to the marketing ineptitued of the league's executives.

The crowd figures are quite encouraging.

Of course it was. It was about the knock on effect to SPL clubs due to Rangers dying. Reduction in attendances was mentioned constantly. The TV deals were part of it but not the only scare tactic used. The fact that crowds are up is a great credit to the fans who bother their arse to go to the football.

[NAE NOOKIE]

It has replaced one crap League with another crap League.

Its only a crap league if you include the old firm.

Dundee are likely to replace the Yams next season so if you exclude Celtic there will be about 5 clubs in the league capable of finishing second, including ( I hope ) Hibs. Thats not bad going in a league of 12 teams.

For me thats how the league has worked for a few years now .... I have no interest in the OF results apart from the affect they may have on the race for 3rd .... or without the Zombie Huns next year 2nd. The OF dont count in my league because their resources are so far ahead of everybody else their presence in it is an irrelevance and the fact that they win the league isnt even an achievement and hardly merits a second glance .... its like Mike Tyson knocking out Mickey Weir in a fight and boasting about it.

If you look at the league like that its actually pretty exciting.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Its good to see that most clubs appear to have held up crowd wise.

Clubs like Motherwell, St Mirren and Kilmarnock probably suffer more from losing fans to OF glory hunting than most. Motherwell are probably the most disappointing club in the whole thing given that they have finished high up the league for most of the period covered and have a decent sized population to draw from if you include Wishaw a few miles away.

Its a shame that the league hasnt found a sponsor yet. Perhaps we should be looking at some of the businesses which sponsor football down south ...... Barclays sponsor the EPL and SKYbet sponsor the Championship. Budweiser and Capital One sponsor the FA and League cups respectively. All of these companies trade UK wide and no doubt make money in Scotland .... and yet not one penny of the proportion of the money they make in Scotland goes to our game in sponsorship, though a proportion of the money they make here must go to their input into the English game.

Hardly seems fair to me. I know that as private companies they have carte blanche to spend their money how and where they wish .... but still !!!

[The_Todd]

Is it a better league? We replaced a two horse race with a one horse race.

Depends how much that matters, it's not as if the title race held any interest at all for fans of 10 of the 12 SPL clubs before Rangers demise. The title race hasn't been a spectacle for years anyway. Most years the title race went by me and I didn't even know who won it.

So a one horse race is no better, but it's not really any worse.

[Jonnyboy]

Aberdeen's attendances are the interesting ones for me. That's a pretty big jump from last season and seems to confirm the theory that if the team is winning, fans will come back in numbers.:agree:

I agree that's a big factor. I'd add that them being talked up by the media and positivity on their messageboards adds to the kind of feelgood factor fans want to be associated with.

[Ronniekirk]

I agree that's a big factor. I'd add that them being talked up by the media and positivity on their messageboards adds to the kind of feelgood factor fans want to be associated with.
Agree what was the Friday night attendance against us ? As Friday night attendances have tended to be up on average .Know we didn't take great support so that would indicate what they are capable of getting when football on show was still average in the main

[Bleeds green]

Agree what was the Friday night attendance against us ? As Friday night attendances have tended to be up on average .Know we didn't take great support so that would indicate what they are capable of getting when football on show was still average in the main

Around 12500 I think

[Frogga]

Inverness seem to regularly get away with making up attendance figures. Their crowds can be embarassing when they aren't doing well.

[Ronniekirk]

Around 12500 I think
Interesting think if we were second top we would have add slightly more although they would of brought big support

[Long suffering]

Also need to account for Celtic counting season ticket holders..... in reality there average is nothing like 47k. Celtic Hearts police were expecting 27,000 yet crowd is reported as 45,000. They probably average 35k ish

[Ronniekirk]

Do we think our own lack of transfer activity may impact on our crowd or are we saying anything over 11 000 is still respectable for time of your and opposition

[RoxburghHibs]

Do we think our own lack of transfer activity may impact on our crowd or are we saying anything over 11 000 is still respectable for time of your and opposition

I'd expect the crowd to be about 10,000 on Saturday.

[Ringothedog]

Do we think our own lack of transfer activity may impact on our crowd or are we saying anything over 11 000 is still respectable for time of your and opposition

Why would lack of transfer activity impact the crowd, do you really believe that if we had signed someone in our price range that this would increase our crowd ? I somehow doubt it. Crowds will increase when we put a winning team on the park. Hibs rarely get crowds above 11k for run of the mill games. It wont happen on Saturday. There is a thread on the bounce regarding crowds and our average since 1905 is approx 11k. Our current average this season is funnily enough about 11k. The yams historically average about 2.7k more than us.

[Islington Hibs]

Its only a crap league if you include the old firm.

Dundee are likely to replace the Yams next season so if you exclude Celtic there will be about 5 clubs in the league capable of finishing second, including ( I hope ) Hibs. Thats not bad going in a league of 12 teams.

For me thats how the league has worked for a few years now .... I have no interest in the OF results apart from the affect they may have on the race for 3rd .... or without the Zombie Huns next year 2nd. The OF dont count in my league because their resources are so far ahead of everybody else their presence in it is an irrelevance and the fact that they win the league isnt even an achievement and hardly merits a second glance .... its like Mike Tyson knocking out Mickey Weir in a fight and boasting about it.

If you look at the league like that its actually pretty exciting.

I agree. Lots of teams capable o getting 3rd. Without Celtic it would be a brilliant league. Shame we seem stuck with them.

[Jonnyboy]

Do we think our own lack of transfer activity may impact on our crowd or are we saying anything over 11 000 is still respectable for time of your and opposition

Not really.

[Ronniekirk]

Why would lack of transfer activity impact the crowd, do you really believe that if we had signed someone in our price range that this would increase our crowd ? I somehow doubt it. Crowds will increase when we put a winning team on the park. Hibs rarely get crowds above 11k for run of the mill games. It wont happen on Saturday. There is a thread on the bounce regarding crowds and our average since 1905 is approx 11k. Our current average this season is funnily enough about 11k. The yams historically average about 2.7k more than us.
We are on the up and it's a game we should win .just think we deserve some better backing .to support the new Manager .will any one of those at Derby venture back ? Always think a new signing generates some interest . So wondered if converse may be true ,but looks like consensus is around 11 000 ..