Quiz question

[davemcbain]

Just got asked this one in the pub. I'm pretty sure it must have been asked on here, but can't recall it.

In Scotland, there are several clubs which are not named after the place they play or originally played (eg Raith Rovers, Hibs, QOS) - how far down the English league system would you have to go to find one?

We've discounted Arsenal - Originally played (we think) at woolwich Arsenal.

[RIP Bestie]

Just got asked this one in the pub. I'm pretty sure it must have been asked on here, but can't recall it.

In Scotland, there are several clubs which are not named after the place they play or originally played (eg Raith Rovers, Hibs, QOS) - how far down the English league system would you have to go to find one?

We've discounted Arsenal - Originally played (we think) at woolwich Arsenal.
Everton? Or is that a place in Liverpool?

[Pretty Boy]

Tranmere Rovers?

[Pete]

Port vale?

[McSwanky]

Qpr?

[davemcbain]

Both places/suburbs in Liverpool

[davemcbain]

Qpr?

Queens Park is between Brent and Westminster in London

[LioNeilMessi]

Port vale?

:agree: That's one. Is there not another one or two?

[Franck Stanton]

Aston Villa ? [ Or am I just being stupid re my lack of geography?]

[davemcbain]

Thank you Mr Messi - you have made my day an awful lot better (been going overboard on google maps)

[Billy Whizz]

Aston Villa ? [ Or am I just being stupid re my lack of geography?]

I think Aston is an area of Birmingham

[Pretty Boy]

Both places/suburbs in Liverpool

I'd always thought Tranmere was something to do with the Mersey ferry service but a quick google search confirms it's a place with a population of 11000.

You learn something new every day.

[McSwanky]

Never knew that Port Vale wasn't a place. I was down at Forest Green before I thought I had found one...

[Hibee87]

Vauxhall Motors :confused:

[Liberal Hibby]

Port vale?

Used to be Burslem Port Vale. Not sure if that counts.

[littleplum]

Used to be Burslem Port Vale. Not sure if that counts.

According to the club's website:

Port Vale Football Club was formed in 1876 and took its name from the venue of the inaugural meeting at 'Port Vale House' situated in a suburb of Stoke-on-Trent

What about Concord Rangers?

[davemcbain]

Thank you Mr Messi - you have made my day an awful lot better (been going overboard on google maps)

[07hibee]

Millwall ? Pretty sure that's not a place

[JeMeSouviens]

Leyton Orient were just called Orient before they moved to Leyton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyton_Orient_F.C.#Formation_and_name

btw, Raith is a place at the same end of Kirkcaldy as Starks Park.

[hibby rae]

Leyton Orient were just called Orient before they moved to Leyton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyton_Orient_F.C.#Formation_and_name

btw, Raith is a place at the same end of Kirkcaldy as Starks Park.

I thought they were originally Clapham Orient?

[Waxy]

Forest Green Rovers

[JeMeSouviens]

I thought they were originally Clapham Orient?

According to wiki - formed 1888 as Orient, 1898 became Clapton Orient, 1937 Leyton Orient, 1966 back to just Orient, 1987 Leyton Orient again.

[eezyrider]

Forest Green Rovers

Forest Green is just outside Nailsworth, Gloucestershire.

EZ

[Killiehibbie]

Vauxhall Motors

[Haymaker]

Millwall ? Pretty sure that's not a place

Aye it is. They play the other side of the river in South Bermondsey though.

[Haymaker]

Vauxhall Motors

Vauxhall is part of London so I guess that counts.

[Killiehibbie]

Vauxhall is part of London so I guess that counts.Works team from Ellesmere Port. Met Police is another.

[Magnifique]

Just got asked this one in the pub. I'm pretty sure it must have been asked on here, but can't recall it.

In Scotland, there are several clubs which are not named after the place they play or originally played (eg Raith Rovers, Hibs, QOS) - how far down the English league system would you have to go to find one?

We've discounted Arsenal - Originally played (we think) at woolwich Arsenal.


Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it

[Haymaker]

Works team from Ellesmere Port. Met Police is another.

Always thought VM were a London based team! Something new.

[Haymaker]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it

Is it not Kingston upon Hull the official city name?

[Waxy]

Concord Rangers

[scuttle]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it

Heard this one before . I think it is that you cant colour in any of the letters

[Magnifique]

Is it not Kingston upon Hull the official city name?


Should have qualified it. It was only when they were Hull City not relevant any more what they were unique for is not relevant now.

I fully expect a doing for the answer

[weonlywon6-2]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it


They have a honking strip and Hull is a dump ???

[Magnifique]

Heard this one before . I think it is that you cant colour in any of the letters


Gold star to Scottie.

[hibbydog]

Isn't arsenal the answer and the OP has given us all a bum steer?

Woolwich arsenal is in south east London and I think arsenal FC have always played in North London.

Otherwise admitting defeat :-(

[weonlywon6-2]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it


They have a honking strip and Hull is a dump ???

[Sir David Gray]

I think Aston is an area of Birmingham

It is.

[Haymaker]

Isn't arsenal the answer and the OP has given us all a bum steer?

Woolwich arsenal is in south east London and I think arsenal FC have always played in North London.

Otherwise admitting defeat :-(

Woolwich Arsenal moved up north and dropped the Woolwich bit IIRC.

[Sir David Gray]

Woolwich Arsenal moved up north and dropped the Woolwich bit IIRC.

:agree: Arsenal started life as Dial Square FC by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich and were renamed Royal Arsenal soon after. It then changed names again to Woolwich Arsenal. When they encountered financial problems in the early 20th century, they were bought by a businessman who relocated them to Highbury in north London and the rest is history.

[MKHIBEE]

Grimsby Town, not sure where they played for the first few years of their existence

[Pretty Boy]

How many British league teams have a letter J in their name?

[ballengeich]

According to the club's website:

Port Vale Football Club was formed in 1876 and took its name from the venue of the inaugural meeting at 'Port Vale House' situated in a suburb of Stoke-on-Trent

What about Concord Rangers?

The dock area of Stoke was called the Port Vale. Before anyone points out the distance between Stoke and the coast, it was the dock on a canal when that was a significant route for business transport.

[ballengeich]

How many British league teams have a letter J in their name?

St Johnstone is the only one. I once saw an old map which showed Perth and St John's Toun as neighbouring settlements so it may have been named after a part of Perth.

[Sir David Gray]

How many British league teams have a letter J in their name?

One.

St Johnstone.

[ballengeich]

Heard this one before . I think it is that you cant colour in any of the letters

There's a team in the Scottish pyramid set up this season that has the same feature.

[jgl07]

Leyton Orient were just called Orient before they moved to Leyton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyton_Orient_F.C.#Formation_and_name

Wrong. They were known as Leyton Orient when they came up to the old First Division in 1962 and went straight back down. They were known as Orient for a brief period (the 1980s?) before reverting back to Leyton Orient but played at Brisbane Road throughout.

[Pete]

There's a team in the Scottish pyramid set up this season that has the same feature.

Livvy!

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Just got asked this one in the pub. I'm pretty sure it must have been asked on here, but can't recall it.

In Scotland, there are several clubs which are not named after the place they play or originally played (eg Raith Rovers, Hibs, QOS) - how far down the English league system would you have to go to find one?

We've discounted Arsenal - Originally played (we think) at woolwich Arsenal.

West Ham United started life as Thames Iron Works and played there first home game at Hermit Road in Canning Town. The Hammers now play at The Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park.

West Ham (the area) can be found just north of Plaistow Underground Station.

[Northernhibee]

Who is the only player in UK football history to score for the away team at their home ground without them being on loan or it being an own goal?

[The Modfather]

Who is the only player in UK football history to score for the away team at their home ground without them being on loan or it being an own goal?

Surely there's more than one when Gretna ground shared at Motherwell and Inverness at Aberdeen. Although no idea the scorers, and vague memories of ICT not losing to Aberdeen around then so they may not have scored.

[Tom Hart RIP]

Who is the only player in UK football history to score for the away team at their home ground without them being on loan or it being an own goal?

Kenny Dalglish for Scotland v Wales at Anfield 1977?

[Tom Hart RIP]

Five European Cup winners who have scored competitive goals for Hibs?

[O'Rourke3]

Sauzee, Best, Bremner, Auld . Probably Michael Stewart but I can't remember the year when Hearts won it. 06 or 07 probably. Not Ronnie Simpson - Matt Busby?

[O'Rourke3]

West Ham United started life as Thames Iron Works and played there first home game at Hermit Road in Canning Town. The Hammers now play at The Boleyn Ground, Green Street, Upton Park.

West Ham (the area) can be found just north of Plaistow Underground Station.

That explains their nickname. Always assumed it was rhyming slang....

[Bill Milne]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it

Because the city they play in is, actually, called "Kingston-upon-Hull"?

[Northernhibee]

Kenny Dalglish for Scotland v Wales at Anfield 1977?

Yep.

[Sergey]

Going back to the OP and as has been mentioned, my friends at Concord Rangers ticks the box.

Another I like is Sporting Bengal who play out of Tower Hamlets in London and are in the Essex Senior League. They were originally made up of Bangladeshi curry house workers and they soon became affiliated with the Bangladeshi FA. Their manager, Mamun Chowdhury received an MBE for services to Asian football.

For those interested, they got thumped 4-1 away to Bowers & Pitsea in their last match.

[littleplum]

Surely there's more than one when Gretna ground shared at Motherwell and Inverness at Aberdeen. Although no idea the scorers, and vague memories of ICT not losing to Aberdeen around then so they may not have scored.

There will also be quite a few from when Crystal Palace groundshared with Charton Athletic in the 80s and Wimbledon in the 90s.

[Nevi_SOL]

there's a team in the scottish pyramid set up this season that has the same feature.

celtic

[PatHead]

There will also be quite a few from when Crystal Palace groundshared with Charton Athletic in the 80s and Wimbledon in the 90s.

............and Brighton at Gillingham.

re Hull it was once the largest city in Europe to have a football team which had never played in the country's top division. They ruined that quiz question by getting promoted a few years ago.

[hfc rd]

Celtic
Hearts
Rangers
West Ham (I think)

[ballengeich]

celtic

You can fill in the e in celtic. Huntly's the answer.

Here's another obscure and irrelevant one. What's the only English club with no letters from the word "mackerel" in its name?

[ballengeich]

............and Brighton at Gillingham.

re Hull it was once the largest city in Europe to have a football team which had never played in the country's top division. They ruined that quiz question by getting promoted a few years ago.

Does anyone know the new answer?

[Caversham Green]

Does anyone know the new answer?

I think it's Plymouth.

[sadtom]

You can fill in the e in celtic. Huntly's the answer.

Here's another obscure and irrelevant one. What's the only English club with no letters from the word "mackerel" in its name?


Swindon Town

[Pretty Boy]

............and Brighton at Gillingham.

re Hull it was once the largest city in Europe to have a football team which had never played in the country's top division. They ruined that quiz question by getting promoted a few years ago.

These lads might argue Hull never has been the right answer:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV_Wehen_Wiesbaden

[Keith_M]

So, was the answer Arsenal then?


:confused:

[davemcbain]

So, was the answer Arsenal then?

:confused:

As it was me that posted...the answer was don't know. Someone asked it in the pub and I was stumped.

I thought Arsenal and in the pub someone said - Nahh originally Woolwich Arsenal and it's just been shortened (they also went on to say Glasgow Celtic could have been ruled out in Scotland for the same reason).

[neilmartinrocks]

St Johnstone is the only one. I once saw an old map which showed Perth and St John's Toun as neighbouring settlements so it may have been named after a part of Perth.

Perth was only called Perth by outsiders up until just after the Bishops Wars ( 1600,s ).It was always referred to as St. Johns Toun by the people who lived in and around it due to the main church. And is the only team in the UK with a "J" in it.

[thebakerboy]

Going back to the original question , I think the answer has to be Grimsby because their ground is actually in Cleethorpes.

[neilmartinrocks]

Going back to the original question , I think the answer has to be Grimsby because their ground is actually in Cleethorpes.

Would agree, the Yorkie at our place reckons they were Grimsby Pelham at first and haven't moved since they were set up.
he has now changed this to "not changed town"

[Nevi_SOL]

You can fill in the e in celtic. Huntly's the answer.

Here's another obscure and irrelevant one. What's the only English club with no letters from the word "mackerel" in its name?

Not in capitals :)

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[Sergey]

Just got asked this one in the pub. I'm pretty sure it must have been asked on here, but can't recall it.

In Scotland, there are several clubs which are not named after the place they play or originally played (eg Raith Rovers, Hibs, QOS) - how far down the English league system would you have to go to find one?

We've discounted Arsenal - Originally played (we think) at woolwich Arsenal.

I popped the question over to my buddies at Concord Rangers as they would revel in the fact - but it seems that they're not in the #1 slot. It would seem that Forest Green may be the answer your looking for.

FWIW - It raised a great discussion between the non-league teams.

[littleplum]

I popped the question over to my buddies at Concord Rangers as they would revel in the fact - but it seems that they're not in the #1 slot. It would seem that Forest Green may be the answer your looking for.

FWIW - It raised a great discussion between the non-league teams.

According to the club's website:

"The Club began their life in the Hamlet of Forest Green in October 1889, founded by the local Non Conformist Church Minister."

[Twa Cairpets]

What's the biggest conurbation in England never to have had a football league team?

[ancient hibee]

Depends on what you consider the borders of the Lake District.

[Twa Cairpets]

Depends on what you consider the borders of the Lake District.

Not a trick question - biggest town.

[Jonnyboy]

What's the only club in the UK with a 7 in its name? :wink:

[_hucks_]

Both places/suburbs in Liverpool

Tranmere aint in Liverpool - it's in Birkenhead. We prefer to keep the wirral folks on their side of the Mersey!

[Sir David Gray]

What's the biggest conurbation in England never to have had a football league team?

Dudley.

[Hiber-nation]

What's the biggest conurbation in England never to have had a football league team?

Warrington if that counts?

[Twa Cairpets]

Nope and Nope

[scuttle]

What's the only club in the UK with a 7 in its name? :wink:

StEVENage

[littleplum]

Nope and Nope

Worthing? Wakefield?

[Twa Cairpets]

Worthing? Wakefield?

Good shout. Wakefield it is.
:top marks

[GREEN WARLORD]

What's the only club in the UK with a 7 in its name? :wink:

Hear7s :greengrin

[Ronniekirk]

What's the biggest conurbation in England never to have had a football league team?
Somerset

[Ronniekirk]

I think it's Plymouth.
Is that not in Argyle

[Sir David Gray]

Good shout. Wakefield it is.
:top marks


Dudley is the largest town in England never to have had a league football club.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley#Association_Football

[littleplum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley#Association_Football

If I had the time or inclination I would amend that Wiki article to remove that- the source cited for that 'fact' makes no such definitive claim: http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-21474,00.html

[Twa Cairpets]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley#Association_Football

Wiki:
Dudley: 194,000
Wakefield: 322,000

[eezyrider]

Wiki:
Dudley: 194,000
Wakefield: 322,000


The population of Wakefield is 76,000. Only if you count the surrounding areas that make up Wakefield district - like Pontefract, Horbury etc - does it come up to 322,000.

http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/AboutWakefield/Research/default.htm

EZ

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

What was the answer to the op's question?

[Caversham Green]

What was the answer to the op's question?

Given that he cites Raith Rovers as an example I would say Port Vale. Both are historic place names that are no longer in common use.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I still think its The Hammers!

[Hovehibby]

Do AFC Wimbledon count? They play in Kingston now, but I don't know if they ever played in Wimbledon prior to this. The old Wimbledon played at Selhurst for ages before moving to MK.

[hibby rae]

8 teams in England have never dropped below the second tier, one of the those teams has never won the top flight. Name that club.

[LancsHibs]

What was the answer to the op's question?

I think it was Port Vale as they play in the Burslem area of Stoke on Trent??

[LancsHibs]

8 teams in England have never dropped below the second tier, one of the those teams has never won the top flight. Name that club.

West Ham united

[hibby rae]

West Ham united

:aok:

Thought that might take longer!

[Jonnyboy]

Hear7s :greengrin

Correct :aok:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I think it was Port Vale as they play in the Burslem area of Stoke on Trent??

West Ham have never played in West Ham though!

[LancsHibs]

West Ham have never played in West Ham though!

:hmmm:yes but West Ham is a place near to where they play which they are named after, whereas there is no such place as Port Vale. Don't think that Wimbledon have ever played in Wimbledon either?

[Pretty Boy]

:hmmm:yes but West Ham is a place near to where they play which they are named after, whereas there is no such place as Port Vale. Don't think that Wimbledon have ever played in Wimbledon either?

There is a Port Vale Street in Stoke although not sure if that came before or after the football team.

[Ronniekirk]

Y
:aok:

Thought that might take longer!
You were hammered The guy hit the nail on the head 1st time:confused:

[Moon unit]

Sorry to hijack the thread but heard a belter (and a groaner!!!) the other day. It is very very left of centre but I will try it......

In the leagues in England and Scotland why are Hull City unique?

I will reveal later tonight if nobody gets it
Hull city are unique as...their name has no solid letters I.e O or D within its name?..

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

:hmmm:yes but West Ham is a place near to where they play which they are named after, whereas there is no such place as Port Vale. Don't think that Wimbledon have ever played in Wimbledon either?

If West Ham have never had a stadium in West Ham then as far as the op's question goes then thats the answer.

[Diclonius]

Port Vale and Arsenal are the only two teams in the English league that are not named after a place.

[brog]

Do AFC Wimbledon count? They play in Kingston now, but I don't know if they ever played in Wimbledon prior to this. The old Wimbledon played at Selhurst for ages before moving to MK.

Wimbledon played in Wimbledon for about 100 years before they moved to Palace in early 90's. I was at lowest ever top flight crowd, Wimbledon - Coventry, about 2,500 on a Boxing Day in the 90's.

[SanFranHibs]

As it was me that posted...the answer was don't know. Someone asked it in the pub and I was stumped.

I thought Arsenal and in the pub someone said - Nahh originally Woolwich Arsenal and it's just been shortened (they also went on to say Glasgow Celtic could have been ruled out in Scotland for the same reason).

I thought Arsenal used to be the Royal Engineers. No mention of it in Wikipedia (No leak intended). Also, never knew they started off as Dial Square. No wonder they were badly supported. Also, in a similar vein Arsenal underground is the only one named specifically after a team.




Arsenal Football Club started out as Dial Square in 1886 by workers at the Royal Arsenal in Woolwich, south-east London, and was renamed Royal Arsenal shortly afterwards.[4] The club was renamed again to Woolwich Arsenal after becoming a limited company in 1893.[5] The club became the first southern member of the Football League in 1893, starting out in the Second Division, and won promotion to the First Division in 1904. The club's relative geographic isolation resulted in lower attendances than those of other clubs, which led to the club becoming mired in financial problems and effectively bankrupt by 1910, when they were taken over by businessmen Henry Norris and William Hall.[6] Norris sought to move the club elsewhere, and in 1913, soon after relegation back to the Second Division, Arsenal moved to the new Arsenal Stadium in Highbury, North London; they dropped "Woolwich" from their name the following year.[7] Arsenal only finished in fifth place in the second division during the last pre-war competitive season of 1914–15, but were nevertheless elected to rejoin the First Division when competitive football resumed in 1919–20, at the expense of local rivals Tottenham Hotspur. Some books have reported that this election to division 1 was achieved by dubious means.[8]

Arsenal appointed Herbert Chapman as manager in 1925. Having already won the league twice with Huddersfield Town in 1923–24 and 1924–25 (see Seasons in English football), Chapman brought Arsenal their first period of major success. His revolutionary tactics and training, along with the signings of star players such as Alex James and Cliff Bastin, laid the foundations of the club's domination of English football in the 1930s.[9] Under his guidance Arsenal won their first major trophies – victory in the 1930 FA Cup Final preceded two League Championships, in 1930–31 and 1932–33. In addition, Chapman was behind the 1932 renaming of the local London Underground station from "Gillespie Road" to "Arsenal", making it the only Tube station to be named specifically after a football club.[10]

[LancsHibs]

If West Ham have never had a stadium in West Ham then as far as the op's question goes then thats the answer.

On a technicality maybe

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

On a technicality maybe

A technicality or a fact? I prefer the latter.