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Jack
23-11-2013, 04:51 PM
The baw is for the fitbaw.

The castle is Edinburgh Castle.

The harp is the Irish Harp.

So what is the name of the ship that represents Leith?

M11BMO
23-11-2013, 04:54 PM
Is it not to represent the docks/shipping industry in Leith in general? Just a guess...!

Hibs07p
23-11-2013, 04:58 PM
Possibly "Great Michael" , although I think the ship only represents Leiths roots with shipping and the docks.



http://www.newhavenonforth.org.uk/great_michael.html

GGTTH

Jones28
23-11-2013, 04:58 PM
It's to represent leith, never known it to have a name - persevere?

jabis
23-11-2013, 04:59 PM
The baw is for the fitbaw.

The castle is Edinburgh Castle.

The harp is the Irish Harp.

So what is the name of the ship that represents Leith?

the Great Micheal,largest warship of it's time,built in Newhaven ?

beaten to it !

Hibercelona
23-11-2013, 04:59 PM
The ship represents Port Leith. I didn't think it was meant to represent any ship in particular.

Jack
23-11-2013, 05:02 PM
Possibly "Great Michael" , although I think the ship only represents Leiths roots with shipping and the docks.



http://www.newhavenonforth.org.uk/great_michael.html

GGTTH

Hibs crest 2 masts : Great Michael 4 :-)

Something that crossed my mind too as did Persevere.

This isn't really a quiz! I don't know the answer :-)

Hibs07p
23-11-2013, 05:16 PM
Hibs crest 2 masts : Great Michael 4 :-)

Something that crossed my mind too as did Persevere.

This isn't really a quiz! I don't know the answer :-)


I just connected it to the most famous Leith built ship, that I had heard of. :dunno:

GGTTH

NAE NOOKIE
23-11-2013, 05:33 PM
In the Hibs badge its meant to represent Leith as you say, but its just a ship as far as I am aware, though its meaning in the Leith coat of arms may have some other background and meaning to it.

The White background to the Castle is supposed to represent Arthurs seat I'm lead to believe.

Keith_M
23-11-2013, 05:50 PM
The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Jesus on it (See here (http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2404681!/image/17703619.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_215/17703619.jpg))

I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.

Phil D. Rolls
23-11-2013, 06:00 PM
The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Joseph on it (See here (http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2404681!/image/17703619.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_215/17703619.jpg))

I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.

:agree: the ship is simply a nod to the fact that Hibs are associated with (but not from) Leith.

The Great Michael has nothing to do with Leith - Newhaven has always been part of Edinburgh.

VivaHiberņa
23-11-2013, 09:25 PM
Filled Rolls is right in that the Great Michael was a Newhaven ship, although Newhaven was part of Leith from 1832-1920 (see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfthomas/9183072922/in/set-72157634324059400/lightbox/).

The identity of the ship (and its passengers) are contested and although the most common interpretation is that the ship represents Leith's shipping history and the Virgin Mary was thrown for religious good measure, I'm informed this is not the case.

Apparently, the Leith coat of arms was inspired by those of French knights based in Leith with Mary Queen of Scots. The lady on the ship is Mary Magdalene travelling to France (hence the French knights' arms) from Egypt and the baby is her son (very Dan Brown, I know). The cloud (occasionally depicted with rays of sunshine :wink:) represents God's presence and his protection over them.

Those knights were probably a sign of things to come :sauzee: but to answer the original question, I don't think we'll ever know.

http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2404681!/image/17703619.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_215/17703619.jpg

linlithgowhibbie
23-11-2013, 09:41 PM
The actual Leith Crest is the same ship design as on the Hibs badge but with Mary and Joseph on it (See here (http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2404681!/image/17703619.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_215/17703619.jpg))

I think that makes it unlikely that it was based on an actual ship.

My memory might be failing me but that looks awfie like the Leith Academy badge in the 1970s and very close to the Links Primary school badge of the 1960s

Jonnyboy
23-11-2013, 09:42 PM
I've always thought of the ship as the Persevere. I've been wrong before though :greengrin

Viva_Palmeiras
23-11-2013, 10:06 PM
To be fair I think the schoolboy that came up with his doodle might not have been looking into things in this depth. Would imagine David Forsyth would know/find out the answer.

jabis
23-11-2013, 10:13 PM
:agree: the ship is simply a nod to the fact that Hibs are associated with (but not from) Leith.

The Great Michael has nothing to do with Leith - Newhaven has always been part of Edinburgh.

Bad shirts,tone deaf,one string on his guitar......DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN !!


dont critique me by the way FR,I know 2 (yes two) chords :greengrin

:cb

Persevere80
23-11-2013, 10:33 PM
My memory might be failing me but that looks awfie like the Leith Academy badge in the 1970s and very close to the Links Primary school badge of the 1960s

Your right, as do leith athletic fc. I think the boat represents leith/docks. Always fancied getting my avatar as a tattoo. Here is a wee bit about persevere. http://www.locationscotland.com/blog/2012/12

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snooky
23-11-2013, 10:37 PM
Filled Rolls is right in that the Great Michael was a Newhaven ship, although Newhaven was part of Leith from 1832-1920 (see: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alfthomas/9183072922/in/set-72157634324059400/lightbox/).

The identity of the ship (and its passengers) are contested and although the most common interpretation is that the ship represents Leith's shipping history and the Virgin Mary was thrown for religious good measure, I'm informed this is not the case.

Apparently, the Leith coat of arms was inspired by those of French knights based in Leith with Mary Queen of Scots. The lady on the ship is Mary Magdalene travelling to France (hence the French knights' arms) from Egypt and the baby is her son (very Dan Brown, I know). The cloud (occasionally depicted with rays of sunshine :wink:) represents God's presence and his protection over them.

Those knights were probably a sign of things to come :sauzee: but to answer the original question, I don't think we'll ever know.

http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2404681!/image/17703619.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_215/17703619.jpg



The golden halos suggest that the subjects are 'Divine' hence good chance it is Mary & Jesus (not Joseph as stated earlier - unless she married a dwarf).

The bairn looks nothing like Dan Brown, BTW. :wink:

neilmartinrocks
24-11-2013, 01:56 AM
The golden halos suggest that the subjects are 'Divine' hence good chance it is Mary & Jesus (not Joseph as stated earlier - unless she married a dwarf).

The bairn looks nothing like Dan Brown, BTW. :wink:

But....... if it is Mary Magdalene and she was married to Jesus..the wee baby would be the grandson of God and therefore he too would be divine
and still look nothing like Dan Brown. :)

snooky
24-11-2013, 01:45 PM
But....... if it is Mary Magdalene and she was married to Jesus..the wee baby would be the grandson of God and therefore he too would be divine
and still look nothing like Dan Brown. :)

Should we inform Operation Yew Tree? :hmmm: