Motherwell 1 v Hibs 0 FT

[down-the-slope]

can't believe the space we are creating in midfield....just the final ball poor...

keeping their ball players under wraps too

[green day]

Better team this half but lack cutting edge. Lack of creativity and pace as usual. Can't fault the effort.

Agree, but its boring as ****!

[Hermit Crab]

Vine coming on. Oh dear

[thebakerboy]

Do not understand the clamour for Zoubir , didnt see him till Aberdeen game then Hearts game and today and so far he hasn't beaten a player , passed to a Hibs player or had an attempt at goal so don't see where he is a game changer. So far he has been worse than Vine or any other player you wish to mention in these games.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Rown Santa Claus Vine coming on...

[Peevemor]

Hanlon booked for a foul on Sutton.

[Hermit Crab]

Thankfully Dumbarton didn't follow the example when they were still at their old ground.

He he.

[Aldo]

Hanlon booked for a foul on Sutton.

Booked for an utter stupid needless foul in the opposition half.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

It's divine intervention we need, not a new manager...:rolleyes:

[Hermit Crab]

15 min to save this.

[Moulin Yarns]

Vine on for McGivern. Strange one, must think we can salvage something

[SkintHibby]

Sooooo painful watching Hibs.

[merritthibees]

The "unmistakable" Rowan vine! These guys couldn't have watched the game on wed!

[greenlex]

Thankfully Dumbarton didn't follow the example when they were still at their old ground.
:greengrin

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Hope Vine scores, will do his confidence the world of good.

[The Sea-gull]

Been the better team today but haven't really looked like scoring. Can just see them getting the killer second despite them having done nothing all half. How come teams always seem to have tons of men behind the ball closing us down and not giving us space when we attack?

[essexhibee]

The state of that beard. Wow.

[greenlex]

We could be playing till dark on Monday and still not score.

[lobster]

Do not understand the clamour for Zoubir , didnt see him till Aberdeen game then Hearts game and today and so far he hasn't beaten a player , passed to a Hibs player or had an attempt at goal so don't see where he is a game changer. So far he has been worse than Vine or any other player you wish to mention in these games.

Completely disagree, he is a quality player.
Today he beat a player and passed to craig for a shot. Him and Harris are the future for Hibs

[Hermit Crab]

Maybury needs to stop biting

[SteveHFC]

The state of that beard. Wow.

The beard is glorious ;)

[hibbymick]

Do not understand the clamour for Zoubir , didnt see him till Aberdeen game then Hearts game and today and so far he hasn't beaten a player , passed to a Hibs player or had an attempt at goal so don't see where he is a game changer. So far he has been worse than Vine or any other player you wish to mention in these games.


amazing how zoubir can lay a ball to craig to have a shot without touching the ball..:rolleyes:

[Hibrandenburg]

Given that Sky TV's money propping up English football is one of our biggest problems then what you've just done is part of the problem :wink:

How dare you blame the supporters? We've been watching some of this eye bleeding turgid pish for so long we've decided to:

(note:Delete as necessary)

Watch English football

Post back our season tickets (recorded delivery)

Go to the Cinema

Abuse players

Surround the west stand wielding garden implements

Move to Blackpool

All of the above

......instead.



:wink:

[One Day Soon]

Stevenson is like a completely different player on the left.

[Hermit Crab]

Stevenson is like a completely different player on the left.

Still canny cross a ball though.

[JMac]

Hibs really are testing my patience, fuc*ing hate the way we play, to top it off, the absolute cun* that is Vine comes on! Why we need to score? His beard is atrocious

[Aldo]

Still canny cross a ball though.

Yip. Has been tidy today but poor poor cross.

[SaulGoodman]

Hibs really are testing my patience, fuc*ing hate the way we play, to top it off, the absolute cun* that is Vine comes on! Why we need to score? His beard is atrocious

Christ

[One Day Soon]

Still canny cross a ball though.

How does that make him different from any other Hibs player on the park?

[skipster7]

Vine is a ***** imposter !! Lost the ball at halfway and threw his arms in the air. Coward.

[Hermit Crab]

Yip. Has been tidy today but poor poor cross.

Yes. Also, talking into account lack of service heffernan has been ominous today apart from 2 early chances.

[Aldo]

Vine is a ***** imposter !! Lost the ball at halfway and threw his arms in the air. Coward.

He's was unlucky there. Poor control from Heff

[HH81]

Looks like were happy to lose 1-0.

[Pretty Boy]

The thing about today is that if we had generally been playing well we would probably be trying to make excuses for a game where we have huffed and puffed without really creating.

As it is we have are so used to this slow, dull football that it's easy to keep seeing the same problems and highlighting them.

[Hibs7]

Either Jimmy Nichol has the same views as PF, or the squad we have are just not good enough as I don't see any great difference today, all huff and puff with no result ... !!

[Aldo]

Yes. Also, talking into account lack of service heffernan has been ominous today apart from 2 early chances.

Shame really cos given the service I am more than certain he'd provide the goals.

[Hermit Crab]

No pen. Good decision.

[Peevemor]

Motherwell down to 10 men.

Free kick just outside the box.

[Mikey_1875]

Comin Craig


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[Pretty Boy]

Chance.

[Aldo]

No pen. Good decision.

Yip. Well player took one for team there.

[greenlex]

No pen. Good decision.
Bad decision. Correct though.

[Pretty Boy]

pish.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Embarrassing. Big build up for F-all.

[Peevemor]

Collins on for Maybury

Vine free kick straight into the wall.

[carnoustiehibee]

Why the **** is vine taking that

[Aldo]

Why the **** did Craig no ping it

[Jim44]

Oh for another Leigh Griffiths.

[SaulGoodman]

Rowan vine.


Just.. Rowan vine

[Mikey]

Looks like were happy to lose 1-0.

How does bringing Zoubir and Collins on look like settling for losing 1-0?

[lobster]

Vine? Free kick? Why? :confused:

[Lendo]

How long left?

[One Day Soon]

The right managerial/coaching team could do a lot with our squad. I could see attractive attacking football pretty quickly given the right approach.

[carnoustiehibee]

How does bringing Zoubir and Collins on look like settling for losing 1-0?

Collins came on with 2mins to go

[Hermit Crab]

How long left?

Injury time

[Peevemor]

How long left?

30 seconds + stoppages (2 minutes??)

[Aldo]

Final 3rd again. No cutting edge. This need address as well as Pace, width and quite a bit more. Robertson excellent again IMHO

Excelkent play and superb cutback from vine oooooo nooooo Collins. What a waste.

[Pretty Boy]

****ing Collins. Hit the ****ing target.

[HH81]

How does bringing Zoubir and Collins on look like settling for losing 1-0?

Its the play that looks like it to me. Have they up the tempo yet?

[SaulGoodman]

James Collins..

Just.. James collins

[Hermit Crab]

Collins you utter throbber.

[Peevemor]

Collins well past the post from a great position.

[Bishop Hibee]

Collins you dick!

[AJWisme]

Does Collins know where the goals are?

[Borderhibbie76]

Collins in missing a sitter shocker

[One Day Soon]

That's unlucky.

[Peevemor]

4 minutes added (3 left now)

[JJP]

Great cut back from Vine. Collins should have finished it.

[skipster7]

Cant see the fascination with vine.should have been Collins on first.

[Pretty Boy]

New gaffer has a big, big job here.

Very little pace, spark or creativity in this squad. A lot more days like this to come imo.

[JMac]

Aaaaaannnnnnnnnndddddddddd Collins misses another sitter, how many points is this guy gonna lose us :(

[hibbymick]

Rowan vine.


Just.. Rowan vine

Cant believe folk used to defend this guy.

[One Day Soon]

TBF to Collins the ball bobbled in front of him.

[Beefster]

Aaaaaannnnnnnnnndddddddddd Collins misses another sitter, how many points is this guy gonna lose us :(

****ing hell. He's been on for 60 seconds.

[Aldo]

Faaaaacccckkkkk

[Beefster]

TBF to Collins the ball bobbled in front of him.

It's easier just to slaughter him.

[Pretty Boy]

Good save keeper from Heffernan.

[Stringer]

Caldwell or handling next week surely

[Peevemor]

Heff unlucky with 20yd effort.

[Hermit Crab]

That's unlucky.

No. Poor finishing. 10yds out free shot at goal, must be hitting the target from there I'm afraid.

[Aldo]

That's that

[One Day Soon]

It's easier just to slaughter him.

Yes, that is the down side of mobs.

[Mikey_1875]

Get up Collins ya goat


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[Matty_Jack04]

Either Jimmy Nichol has the same views as PF, or the squad we have are just not good enough as I don't see any great difference today, all huff and puff with no result ... !!

If the squad where good enough we wouldn't be managerless, this 'we have a good squad of players' is a myth, there's a lot of work needing done at hibs

[Pretty Boy]

Get the ball in the ****ing box

[heretoday]

Stevenson can leave anytime he wants. He's been around too long.

[Northern Hibby]

I know we lack pace but sometimes it's just lack of urgency !!!

[Peevemor]

FT 1-0

I've seen worse but we don't have a clue around the box.

[Tyler Durden]

Stevenson's distribution has been appalling today.

[Mikey_1875]

Pish


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[JMac]

Much better than them today but we can't score, depressing

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Jesus Christ, when are going to score again?

[kdhibees1]

Unlucky Hibs, gave a better performance than imagined!

[AJWisme]

Much more of the ball. No cutting edge though. Bad decisions in the final 3rd.

[One Day Soon]

If the squad where good enough we wouldn't be managerless, this 'we have a good squad of players' is a myth, there's a lot of work needing done at hibs

That's not true. How they are coached, their fitness, how they are set up and the system they play is down to the manager. Get the right backroom staff in and that team could be transformed within a month.

[Hermit Crab]

Nichol out.

[Borderhibbie76]

Caldwell or handling next week surely

Caldwell is murder too

[SteveHFC]

Collins :faf:

[Wotherspiniesta]

Thought we were magnificent today.

[One Day Soon]

Stevenson's distribution has been appalling today.

Garbage. He's one of the most sensible users of the ball we have.

[Berwickhibby]

FFS...... They need to practice shooting...... Hibs keep tryin g to walk the ball into the net..... we could play until tomorrow and I still dont think we would have scored.

[Borderhibbie76]

Stevenson can leave anytime he wants. He's been around too long.

Agreed....pish poor player

[frazeHFC]

Theres no point in giving the ball to Stevenson out wide, his crossing is terrible. Low and to the first defender every time.

Played better the second half in terms of defence and passing but not good enough up front.

[Stringer]

Positives:
Craig played at CAM

Forster played really well.

Jimmy made good subs.

Would have been a draw if not for a red card challenge

Negatives:

Our strikers

Set piece defending

lack of pace

[Sprouleflyer]

Stevenson can leave anytime he wants. He's been around too long.

Zzzzzzz!

Change the record!

[Tyler Durden]

Got what we deserved for such a negative set up. The sooner a new manager arrives the better.

[hibbytam]

Played alright, didn't deserve to lose, but the entire team look terrified in the final third.

[JJP]

Wasn't our worst performance by any stretch of the imagination. Just once again extremely frustrating in the final third and Motherwell take the easiest of goals off us. Oh well, on to the next one I suppose.

[SaulGoodman]

FFS...... They need to practice shooting...... Hibs keep tryin g to walk the ball into the net..... we could play until tomorrow and I still dont think we would have scored.

I think we could've played another 10 minutes and probably scored but that's football.

[GloryGlory]

Stevenson's distribution has been appalling today.

IMO, his distribution is appallimg most days.

[Saorsa]

That's not true. How they are coached, their fitness, how they are set up and the system they play is down to the manager. Get the right backroom staff in and that team could be transformed within a month.Correct, things winnae be fixed overnight just because Fenlon got the boot 2 days ago

[skipster7]

Much more of the ball. No cutting edge though. Bad decisions in the final 3rd.
:agree: same as wed. played ok up to 18 yard box.No cutting edge.

[Borderhibbie76]

Much better performance but look like we will never score again

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Positives:
Craig played at CAM

Forster played really well.

Jimmy made good subs.

Would have been a draw if not for a red card challenge

Negatives:

Our strikers

Set piece defending

lack of pace

Seemed to make subs at the right times too:aok:

[One Day Soon]

Nichol out, Terry Malpas in.

[Tyler Durden]

Garbage. He's one of the most sensible users of the ball we have.

His crossing was terrible today, failed to beat the first man regularly and kicked it out of play a few times too. Not very sensible today.

[Sprouleflyer]

Agreed....pish poor player

Go on then, what did he do wrong?

From memory, 2 poor crosses into the box, other than that, what did he do wrong today?

[Jim44]

we are a defender's food and drink constantly running and passing sideways on the edge of the box.They love that and hate anyone running into them.

[MotherSuperior]

Rubbish result BUT good performance.

Should have had a draw but poor finishing cost us again.

[Bobo]

We are never going to get anywhere offensively by relying on Stevenson to supply width his crossing and distribution is worse than a 10 yr olds, lost count of how many times he failed to deliver a decent cross!

Motherwell are sh!!te and they've beaten us twice now, IMO it's because of our lack of an attacking threat rather than them being worth a sook!

[Bishop Hibee]

Better team but not enough creativity especially in wide areas but we know that already. Good performances from Foster, Robertson and Craig for me. Nichol gave the team much better balance by playing Maybury and moving Stevenson to left midfield. Whoever comes in has a decent squad but we need someone to partner Heff up front and a fit Harris. A new wide player in the window too as Zoubir has no pace and Handling looks out of the picture.

What was Fenlon thinking signing that dud Collins :rolleyes:

[SkintHibby]

How people on here can say we have a top 4 squad is beyond me.:confused:

[Leishy1995]

Would much rather a youth player came in with a point to prove instead of Dumbledore. Cummings step up

[One Day Soon]

His crossing was terrible today, failed to beat the first man regularly and kicked it out of play a few times too. Not very sensible today.

He actually helps our midfield to hole much better shape when he plays on the left. His crossing is average but so is most of the rest of the team. He uses the ball sensibly most of the time, looking for a midfielder who can hit a pass or make a run and he rarely just punts it. Most of the time he finds a green shirt.

I think -like everyone else in the squad - needs to be given some slack and breathing space while we discover what a new manager can get out of them.

[BarneyK]

we are a defender's food and drink constantly running and passing sideways on the edge of the box.They love that and hate anyone running into them.

:agree: I have no problem with the passing game - I love it - but you need to mix it up a bit. Was delighted to see Robertson run at them in the first half. And how many screamers from outside the box did Liam Craig score when at St Johnstone. Wish he'd have more of a go.

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

Unlucky the last 10/15 minutes I thought as we pushed up, great save from Heff at the death sums up our luck.

Motherwell irritate me with their constant moaning about non existent fouls, they were certainly hanging on at the end.

Still loads of work to do and I would like to see a few changes but we will just have to wait and see what happens.

[Borderhibbie76]

Go on then, what did he do wrong?

From memory, 2 poor crosses into the box, other than that, what did he do wrong today?

He is a midfielder who has no pace, cant cross and cant shoot!! So not very good really. Yeah he gives 110% blah blah but he is woeful mate

[Matty_Jack04]

That's not true. How they are coached, their fitness, how they are set up and the system they play is down to the manager. Get the right backroom staff in and that team could be transformed within a month.

How often have we all moaned about not being able to pass 5 yards or take throw ins properly? That's not down to the manager

[BarneyK]

We are never going to get anywhere offensively by relying on Stevenson to supply width his crossing and distribution is worse than a 10 yr olds, lost count of how many times he failed to deliver a decent cross!

Motherwell are sh!!te and they've beaten us twice now, IMO it's because of our lack of an attacking threat rather than them being worth a sook!

:top marks We were the better side in the opening match too but when you cannae defend a simple ball over the top... The laddie nearly scored an identical one today.

[The Tubs]

How people on here can say we have a top 4 squad is beyond me.:confused:

I think we have a decent squad; however, it's the complete lack of an outball to players with pace that kills a great deal of our attacks. We could have spent a little less on centre halves and midfielders to bring in at least one player who can beat a man with pace.

[Wotherspiniesta]

Go on then, what did he do wrong?

From memory, 2 poor crosses into the box, other than that, what did he do wrong today?

What did he do RIGHT today? Decent cover for LB but as a forward thinking player the guy's just a waste of a ****ing jersey.

[Thomson]

Cant believe folk used to defend this guy.

:agree: And not just people who used to :confused:

[Callum_62]

So I see after 12 games James Collins has became the latest scapegoat

How was Sparky after 12 games btw?

:rolleyes:

[Leishy1995]

What did he do RIGHT today? Decent cover for LB but as a forward thinking player the guy's just a waste of a ****ing jersey.

He maintained possession well throughout the game and had 2 poor crosses the rest were dangerous. He also actually ran and cut inside which is a bonus. There are worse players just now than Lewis

[Onion]

IMO, his distribution is appallimg most days.

Don't rate Stevenson, but he's being asked to do too much creative work to make up for the our poor midfield.

[Bracksy]

Today was an improvement I'd say, tried to get the ball down and play. Unlucky to get beat I think. Lewis Stevenson was our best player today, really impressed in midfield.

[Golden Bear]

There was no real cutting edge but the team had a better balance to it and there were encouraging signs of improvement.

[Sprouleflyer]

He is a midfielder who has no pace, cant cross and cant shoot!! So not very good really. Yeah he gives 110% blah blah but he is woeful mate

You can say that about most of our midfield.

Craig screwed up plenty today, but I don't see him getting much abuse? Oh, forgot he did have one shot on target, he must be a superstar!!

I ain't a Stevenson fan, but the amount of times he gets singled out by the Hibs armchair masses just shows how much they don't know about football!

[Tyler Durden]

He actually helps our midfield to hole much better shape when he plays on the left. His crossing is average but so is most of the rest of the team. He uses the ball sensibly most of the time, looking for a midfielder who can hit a pass or make a run and he rarely just punts it. Most of the time he finds a green shirt.

I think -like everyone else in the squad - needs to be given some slack and breathing space while we discover what a new manager can get out of them.

I think we know what we get from Stevenson. Decent defensively and a good reserve for LB, 100% every game.

That's it. He's poor going forward and never a wide midfielder.

[Smiggy 7-0]

Sorry guys, but only seen Zoubir twice as a sub WTF done SFA both times

[Eternal Hibbie]

How often have we all moaned about not being able to pass 5 yards or take throw ins properly? That's not down to the manager

Manager signs and coaches the players so down to him in my book.

[FitbaFolkKen]

So I see after 12 games James Collins has became the latest scapegoat

How was Sparky after 12 games btw?

:rolleyes:

this he's a young guy he'll come good.... Let's slaughter him until he does though that will help him along

[Tyler Durden]

You can say that about most of our midfield.

Craig screwed up plenty today, but I don't see him getting much abuse? Oh, forgot he did have one shot on target, he must be a superstar!!

I ain't a Stevenson fan, but the amount of times he gets singled out by the Hibs armchair masses just shows how much they don't know about football!

It's a match update thread, Stevenson hit several poor crosses and people are commenting on that. Hardly getting abuse.

[greenlex]

Sorry guys, but only seen Zoubir twice as a sub WTF done SFA both times
Clever player but won't cut it in Scottish a Football.

[Wotherspiniesta]

He maintained possession well throughout the game and had 2 poor crosses the rest were dangerous. He also actually ran and cut inside which is a bonus. There are worse players just now than Lewis

Brilliant. He maintained posession. That's what we're crying our for on the wing. IMO we don't have enough midfielders who can pass the ball around midfield. :rolleyes:

By the way he probably gave the ball away as much as anyone in the team today with his piss poor crosses.

[Leishy1995]

Brilliant. He maintained posession. That's what we're crying our for on the wing. IMO we don't have enough midfielders who can pass the ball around midfield. :rolleyes:

By the way he probably gave the ball away as much as anyone in the team today with his piss poor crosses.

The last paragraph, so if he gave it away as much as anyone else, where is you saying they are a waste of a shirt? Something wrong with you

[Onion]

How people on here can say we have a top 4 squad is beyond me.:confused:

We don't, but if you repeat something often enough on .net it becomes fact.

Vine is player
Vine is player
Vin..... ok give up.

[Hibercelona]

A few key issues for me:

1) 4-4-1-1 (A "flick-on" formation thats awful to watch and offers next to nothing)

2) Stevenson. A player that actually has some pace and wants to drive forward being played at right back????

3) Zoubir. A player thats caused havock down the wing for other clubs, not being played as a winger??? Instead, we prefer to play Craig there? :confused:

4) McGivern. A player thats prone to switching off and losing track of his marker, as shown yet again.

5) Taiwo. What does he offer us exactly? Another Brian Kerr.

6) Collins (Money wasted on nothing)

7) Vine (As clumbsy as he looks)

[Matty_Jack04]

Manager signs and coaches the players so down to him in my book.

My point is we don't have a good squad as some believe, I'm not defending fenlon or his coaching. we have a squad of players who have shown they struggle with basics and IMO aren't good enough whoever comes in now has as big a job on their hands as fenlon did coming in after calderwood

[Sprouleflyer]

It's a match update thread, Stevenson hit several poor crosses and people are commenting on that. Hardly getting abuse.

Who said he was getting abuse?

[Borderhibbie76]

You can say that about most of our midfield.

Craig screwed up plenty today, but I don't see him getting much abuse? Oh, forgot he did have one shot on target, he must be a superstar!!

I ain't a Stevenson fan, but the amount of times he gets singled out by the Hibs armchair masses just shows how much they don't know about football!

Im no armchair fan mate..been ST holder for 20 odd years and regularly attend away!! SO just because I dont agree with u...dont b making dangerous assumptions

[God Petrie]

On way back from the game. Thought we played OK. Can the idiots booing Vine coming onto the pitch avoid Hibs games in future? Pathetic "support" of a Hibs player. If you need something to do at the weekend and enjoy booing Hibs players **** off to tynecastle.

[Wotherspiniesta]

The last paragraph, so if he gave it away as much as anyone else, where is you saying they are a waste of a shirt? Something wrong with you

Because Craig, Robertson etc are actually capable of creating something decent in the final 3rd, whereas Stevenson never is and never will be a creative midfielder. And using him as such is a waste of a jersey.

[greenlex]

Im no armchair fan mate..been ST holder for 20 odd years and regularly attend away!! SO just because I dont agree with u...dont b making dangerous assumptions
FFS get a grip.:faf:

[Tyler Durden]

Who said he was getting abuse?

You insinuated it by comparing the lack of comment about Craig's performance.

[Sprouleflyer]

Im no armchair fan mate..been ST holder for 20 odd years and regularly attend away!! SO just because I dont agree with u...dont b making dangerous assumptions

Dangerous assumptions? Explain?

[Eternal Hibbie]

My point is we don't have a good squad as some believe, I'm not defending fenlon or his coaching. we have a squad of players who have shown they struggle with basics and IMO aren't good enough whoever comes in now has as big a job on their hands as fenlon did coming in after calderwood

Fair enough Matty, all about opinions I suppose.

On paper we appear to have as good a squad as most but agree we do struggle with the basics.

Can't agree with your assessment on the new managers task though, think we're in a far better place now.

[greenlex]

Because Craig, Robertson etc are actually capable of creating something decent in the final 3rd, whereas Stevenson never is and never will be a creative midfielder. And using him as such is a waste of a jersey.
He created as much as either of the two you mention. There is more to playing midfield that just being creative. It's a fine balance. Maybe the gaffer sees his defensive side as just as important to a 4 1/4 or 5 man midfield. Only my opinion mind.

[Borderhibbie76]

Dangerous assumptions? Explain?

Ok dangerous was wrong choice of word but u assumed I was an armchair fan just coz I didnt agree with ur opinion. Lets just leave it there ah...

[Wotherspiniesta]

He created as much as either of the two you mention. There is more to playing midfield that just being creative. It's a fine balance. Maybe the gaffer sees his defensive side as just as important to a 4 1/4 or 5 man midfield. Only my opinion mind.

He created absolutely nothing! Craig had a couple of decent efforts which were saved and played Heffernan through for the red card. Robertson looked a lot more dangerous today, drove at defenders and almost scored a fantastic solo goal. I'm aware there's more to being a midfielder than being creative, but when you're playing left wing, you've got a responsibility to create things, take on your man and put in some decent crosses. If Stevenson was playing in Thomson's role perhaps I would be a bit more lenient, but we need more from our wide men than what Stevenson can offer us.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Thought we were magnificent today.

Is that really the standard we've fallen to? What was magnificent about us?

[Hibercelona]

Because Craig, Robertson etc are actually capable of creating something decent in the final 3rd, whereas Stevenson never is and never will be a creative midfielder. And using him as such is a waste of a jersey.

I disagree.

Stevenson has more pace in 1 of his toes than Liam Craig does. He's the type of player that tries desperately to make something happen. But it's easy to run out of steam when you're constantly forced to run the full length of the pitch to try and get something going.

Craig is all about half hearted lumps into the box from poor angles.

[cleanyman]

Heading back from the game.

Thought Hibs played okay, didn't take any of our chances. Robertson and Thomson were superb.

Sutton bullied our two centre halves and as for the goal they were always looking to hit McManus.

Met John brownlie. Lovely man

[Beefster]

So I see after 12 games James Collins has became the latest scapegoat

Aye, playing in the least attacking Hibs team in years too.

[Bishop Hibee]

Stevenson is a great utility player to have in the squad. Always gives 100%. However when he is getting a regular game you know there is a problem with the quality of the team. His crossing was woeful and while he's not the slowest, either Harris when fit or a new signing on the left should take that position.

Better than either the Aberdeen or Hertz game but a long way to go.

[Matty_Jack04]

Fair enough Matty, all about opinions I suppose.

On paper we appear to have as good a squad as most but agree we do struggle with the basics.

Can't agree with your assessment on the new managers task though, think we're in a far better place now.

I hope your right

[Sprouleflyer]

Ok dangerous was wrong choice of word but u assumed I was an armchair fan just coz I didnt agree with ur opinion. Lets just leave it there ah...

Opinions will always differ thats what makes good debates. My comment re armchair fans was not directed at you and i apologise if you thought it was, I just replied on your post about Stevenson, who I thought had a decent game today.

I would be first to moan about Stevenson if had a poor game, but i get sick how he just appears to be the default choice by a lot of fans when things go wrong!

[Wotherspiniesta]

Is that really the standard we've fallen to? What was magnificent about us?

Just a parting pop at Pat Fenlon. Not Hibs class on my part.

[Wotherspiniesta]

I disagree.

Stevenson has more pace in 1 of his toes than Liam Craig does. He's the type of player that tries desperately to make something happen. But it's easy to run out of steam when you're constantly forced to run the full length of the pitch to try and get something going.

Craig is all about half hearted lumps into the box from poor angles.

You quite happy for Stevenson to play at left wing for the rest of the season then yeah? Who do you reckon would create more in that position? Liam or Lewis?

And there's the old "He tries" chestnut again. He looks absolutely lost when trying to make something happen. As I said, back up LB. That's all.

[jdships]

Zzzzzzz!

Change the record!

:thumbsup::agree:

[Hibercelona]

You quite happy for Stevenson to play at left wing for the rest of the season then yeah? Who do you reckon would create more in that position? Liam or Lewis?

And there's the old "He tries" chestnut again. He looks absolutely lost when trying to make something happen. As I said, back up LB. That's all.

I think Stevenson would offer us more in that position than Craig everytime. I think he's more capable of getting to the byline and causing problems. But he's not able to do that at the moment, because running the full length of the pitch back and forth for 90 minutes, is zapping all of his energy.

LC has shown that he's incapable of taking players on. I haven't once seen him turn a defender to get himself into the box or to the byline. Instead, he lumps the ball into the box from about 40 yards, hoping for some miracle to happen.

[Wotherspiniesta]

I think Stevenson would offer us more in that position than Craig everytime. I think he's more capable of getting to the byline and causing problems. But he's not able to do that at the moment, because running the full length of the pitch back and forth for 90 minutes, is zapping all of his energy.

LC has shown that he's incapable of taking players on. I haven't once seen him turn a defender to get himself into the box or to the byline. Instead, he lumps the ball into the box from about 40 yards, hoping for some miracle to happen.

You've come up with some belters on this site, but this surely takes the biscuit. Craig has scored 6 goals this season playing on the left, Stevenson has scored 1 goal in 6 years. On the handful of occasions Lewis got the ball at the byline, how many times did he cause Motherwell problems? None, because his final ball is crap. You're right it probably did zap his energy doing all of that running, which is just another reason he shouldn't be playing there.

I can't remember Craig "lumping the ball into the box from 40 yards" once today TBH. He was playing in the hole, dropping into space and playing the ball wide to our wing king Stevenson. Also, I thought Craig got absolutely no decisions from the ref today. he seemed to be pushed nearly everytime he got the ball with his back to play.

[Hiber-nation]

You've come up with some belters on this site, but this surely takes the biscuit. Craig has scored 6 goals this season playing on the left, Stevenson has scored 1 goal in 6 years. On the handful of occasions Lewis got the ball at the byline, how many times did he cause Motherwell problems? None, because his final ball is crap. You're right it probably did zap his energy doing all of that running, which is just another reason he shouldn't be playing there.

I can't remember Craig "lumping the ball into the box from 40 yards" once today TBH. He was playing in the hole, dropping into space and playing the ball wide to our wing king Stevenson. Also, I thought Craig got absolutely no decisions from the ref today. he seemed to be pushed nearly everytime he got the ball with his back to play.

Why does it always have to be black and white on here? Craig didn't pass the ball well again well but obviously carries a a goal threat. Stevenson's passing was very good, really neat and tidy but crossing, as usual was very poor.

[Hermit Crab]

You've come up with some belters on this site, but this surely takes the biscuit. Craig has scored 6 goals this season playing on the left, Stevenson has scored 1 goal in 6 years. On the handful of occasions Lewis got the ball at the byline, how many times did he cause Motherwell problems? None, because his final ball is crap. You're right it probably did zap his energy doing all of that running, which is just another reason he shouldn't be playing there.

I can't remember Craig "lumping the ball into the box from 40 yards" once today TBH. He was playing in the hole, dropping into space and playing the ball wide to our wing king Stevenson. Also, I thought Craig got absolutely no decisions from the ref today. he seemed to be pushed nearly everytime he got the ball with his back to play.

The game mostly passed Craig by in the first half, got into it more in the 2nd. Stevenson did alright throughout the game but he's definitely not an attacking midfielder type play. He has no final ball in his locker. He's better in a defensive role he's good at breaking up play IMO

[Wotherspiniesta]

Why does it always have to be black and white on here? Craig didn't pass the ball well again well but obviously carries a a goal threat. Stevenson's passing was very good, really neat and tidy but crossing, as usual was very poor.

Who would you rather played at LM?

[cabbageandribs1875]

You've come up with some belters on this site, but this surely takes the biscuit. Craig has scored 6 goals this season playing on the left, Stevenson has scored 1 goal in 6 years. On the handful of occasions Lewis got the ball at the byline, how many times did he cause Motherwell problems? None, because his final ball is crap. You're right it probably did zap his energy doing all of that running, which is just another reason he shouldn't be playing there.

I can't remember Craig "lumping the ball into the box from 40 yards" once today TBH. He was playing in the hole, dropping into space and playing the ball wide to our wing king Stevenson. Also, I thought Craig got absolutely no decisions from the ref today. he seemed to be pushed nearly everytime he got the ball with his back to play.


his final ball is ****** abysmal :agree: and McGiverns aint too clever either

[Danderhall Hibs]

Harsh. The players don't gave a commentator telling them how long to go.

No they don't - they get a wee man with a board telling them how long and another wee man with a watch that can tell them how long.



You quite happy for Stevenson to play at left wing for the rest of the season then yeah? Who do you reckon would create more in that position? Liam or Lewis?

And there's the old "He tries" chestnut again. He looks absolutely lost when trying to make something happen. As I said, back up LB. That's all.

:agree: He can't cross a ball any higher than knee cap height. No doubt he works hard but we've now confirmed he's not a right back or a left midfielder. So it's left back or centre mid that he must be good at?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sorry guys, but only seen Zoubir twice as a sub WTF done SFA both times



he's certainly fooled me after a decent debut against st.johnstone :(

[cabbageandribs1875]

How often have we all moaned about not being able to pass 5 yards or take throw ins properly? That's not down to the manager



we even lost a throw-in this afternoon because of a foul throw......a professional football player should never ever ever EVER give away a foul throw-in , ffs how hard is it really :(

[cabbageandribs1875]

out of curiosity, was it that dirty **** Hutchinson that got sent off the same player that put wee Harris out for a few months ?

[hibsbollah]

out of curiosity, was it that dirty **** Hutchinson that got sent off the same player that put wee Harris out for a few months ?

It was. And hes a geordie to boot :grr:

[blackpoolhibs]

Not a typical hibs display in my opinion, but a predictable result. We actually created a few chances, and kept the ball quite well at times.

Lost to another defensive mistake, and couldn't score as usual.

We are 2 full backs 2 wide midfielders and a forward away from being good enough to compete for Europe in my opinion.

[cabbageandribs1875]

It was. And hes a geordie to boot :grr:



that's a yellow card itself

[One Day Soon]

Not a typical hibs display in my opinion, but a predictable result. We actually created a few chances, and kept the ball quite well at times.

Lost to another defensive mistake, and couldn't score as usual.

We are 2 full backs 2 wide midfielders and a forward away from being good enough to compete for Europe in my opinion.

You missed out a midfield playmaker and the requirement for a couple of the players you requested to have pace.

[blackpoolhibs]

You missed out a midfield playmaker and the requirement for a couple of the players you requested to have pace.

The 2 wide men need to also be creative, and pace would be imperative too, Scott Robertson would go central and drive on helping with the creativity. :wink:

[The Utility Man]

Who would you rather played at LM?
Is it just me that thought Cairney was supposed to be back fit, Handling is another option there atleast he would take on a man?

[Hibercelona]

Not a typical hibs display in my opinion, but a predictable result. We actually created a few chances, and kept the ball quite well at times.

Lost to another defensive mistake, and couldn't score as usual.

We are 2 full backs 2 wide midfielders and a forward away from being good enough to compete for Europe in my opinion.

We are creating chances. But it's never anything clear cut. It's extremely difficult to score goals when you can't carve your opponents open.

We're screaming out for more urgency. Players who want to run at defenders. Players looking to make those dangerous through passes. Players that the opposition will actually be frightened to play against.

We just don't seem to strike any fear into opposition teams at the moment.

We look very static. There's no sense of leadership. And there's nobody in the team looking to seize the initiative.

[Hibrandenburg]

Not a typical hibs display in my opinion, but a predictable result. We actually created a few chances, and kept the ball quite well at times.

Lost to another defensive mistake, and couldn't score as usual.

We are 2 full backs 2 wide midfielders and a forward away from being good enough to compete for Europe in my opinion.

New manager wouldn't be a bad idea either.

:duck:

[greenpaper55]

I thought we were lucky to go in at half time just the 1 goal down but it was a different story in the second half and you would have thought that we were the home team. By then the damage had been done but compared to the Partick game we were a much better team.

[truehibernian]

Not a typical hibs display in my opinion, but a predictable result. We actually created a few chances, and kept the ball quite well at times.

Lost to another defensive mistake, and couldn't score as usual.

We are 2 full backs 2 wide midfielders and a forward away from being good enough to compete for Europe in my opinion.

The signings of Vine, OTJ and Mullen were unnecessary and the wrong areas that needed addressed.

We lost Leigh and Eoin's goals and should have secured Jorge as well as getting blistering pace out wide. Taylor should have been wrapped up in January.

I agree with your assessment of where needs attention though BH.

[Aldo]

Thought we played quite well today. Apart from McGivern losing his man for the goal.

Lewis was steady (like most of the others) however his crossing was woeful.

Robertson is totally wasted out on the right and needs to be played central. He tried to get onto a ball into the middle but had too much ground to cover.

I am a very big fan of TT but where has the player of the tail end of last year gone. A yard off the pace at times.

Maybe it's time to play with just Thomson in the middle (1DCM) and bring in Robertson alongside him pushing forward at every opportunity.

Thought Vine looked ok when he came on (barring his free kick) got into some no bad positions and a few looks up and crossed.

Zoubir- sorry but this lad has brought not a lot to the team and today showed to me that he needs to on a bit of muscle. Every time he got the ball he was disposed of it way too easy. He is not a winger and is more of an AM.

There seemed to be a bit more positivity, more so in 2nd half going forward but we must get Heff more support if we are to start scoring goals.

Sure the new man will have some ideas so fingers crossed.

[Hibercelona]

Zoubir- sorry but this lad has brought not a lot to the team and today showed to me that he needs to on a bit of muscle. Every time he got the ball he was disposed of it way too easy. He is not a winger and is more of an AM.

Zoubir is a winger. We haven't been playing him as a winger though. :confused:

[truehibernian]

Zoubir is a winger. We haven't been playing him as a winger though. :confused:

Is he ? Every time he sees the ball his first thought is to drop inside - and he has next to no pace. Tricky feet, decent skill on the turn but as stated, weak physically.

May be better played as a link up player off the striker with his quick feet/mind - can't see him beating many full backs for pace at all though, unlike the 'Well boy today.

[Andy74]

Is he ? Every time he sees the ball his first thought is to drop inside - and he has next to no pace. Tricky feet, decent skill on the turn but as stated, weak physically.

May be better played as a link up player off the striker with his quick feet/mind - can't see him beating many full backs for pace at all though, unlike the 'Well boy today.

He showed plenty pace and ability to go past people in his first couple of games. Looks like he has been told to calm it and try and link up which is the wrong thing with this guy.

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[cmcd]

Chance to launch it into the box and Thomson passes it along the ground out wide instead from the free kick and the ref blows the half time whistle. Footballers are ****ing dumb.
what a first class idiot

[Hibernia&Alba]

I thought we deserved a point due to a good second half performance. We started like a team low on confidence, as you'd expect, but improved as the games progressed, missing a couple of very good chances late on. We've played much worse than that this season.

[Jonnyboy]

I rarely read match day threads because I'm at the game and don't fancy reading all the criticisms :greengrin

Just a few general observations on this thread though

Why are folk surprised that it was the same old, same old? Still Pat's team even though he's now away. Wait for the new man to maske changes

Usual players getting grief while others duck under the radar. McGivern was woeful today but very few criticisms on here in comparison to Lewis who was largely solid throughout

Contrary to what some suggest, Liam Craig struggled to get involved until he drifted wide left - maybe PF was right after all :wink:

The Hibs support. Quiet and strangely housed in both tiers of the stand - why?

That'll do me for now :greengrin

[erin go bragh]

I think Stevenson would offer us more in that position than Craig everytime. I think he's more capable of getting to the byline and causing problems. But he's not able to do that at the moment, because running the full length of the pitch back and forth for 90 minutes, is zapping all of his energy.

LC has shown that he's incapable of taking players on. I haven't once seen him turn a defender to get himself into the box or to the byline. Instead, he lumps the ball into the box from about 40 yards, hoping for some miracle to happen.

Wtf !!!!!! That has to be in the running for the worst post of 2013 .


Ggtth

[JimBHibees]

I disagree.

Stevenson has more pace in 1 of his toes than Liam Craig does. He's the type of player that tries desperately to make something happen. But it's easy to run out of steam when you're constantly forced to run the full length of the pitch to try and get something going.

Craig is all about half hearted lumps into the box from poor angles.

Nonsense Craig is an excellent creative player didnt have his best game today but is definitely an excellent addition to the squad.

[SlickShoes]

Stevenson has no end product whatsoever, one of his crosses sailed over into the stands and the other 4 or 5 attempt's hit the first man. If he is going to be used in midfield he can't be a creative outlet, he should be in the back doing the "unseen work".