Liam Craig charged by SFA Compliance Officer; Hibs appeal rejected

[scott7_0(Prague)]

So just on Forth 1 that Liam Craig is to be charged by the SFA after a incident was picked up on by the compliance officer??

That said incident was involving Craig and Ryan Steveson.

:rolleyes::confused:

Anyone recall what it could be?

[HFC 0-7]

Could be when Craig's boot caught Stevenson in the face?

[Moulin Yarns]

BBCBMcLauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin 8m (http://www.hibs.net/BBCBMcLauchlin/status/396260718288175104) SFA compliance officer to charge Hibs midfielder Liam Craig after clash with Hearts midfielder Ryan Stevenson during Edin derby#bbcsportscot


What happened, I don't remember anything? maybe some afters I presume

[Curly1875]

Didn't notice at the time but someone told me yesterday he kicked Stevenson in the face?

[SmashinGlass]

Didn't notice at the time but someone told me yesterday he kicked Stevenson in the face?

Didn't kick the cretin hard enough if true

[JimBHibees]

So just on Forth 1 that Liam Craig is to be charged by the SFA after a incident was picked up on by the compliance officer??

That said incident was involving Craig and Ryan Steveson.

:rolleyes::confused:

Anyone recall what it could be?

Really quite incredible. Would be definitely appealling that. It was the one wide out in the first half where he and the tattoed freak chalenged and I think Craig's boot caught Stevenson. Dont see how that could be seen as deliberate IMO.

[millarco]

BBCBMcLauchlin ‏@BBCBMcLauchlin 8m (http://www.hibs.net/BBCBMcLauchlin/status/396260718288175104) SFA compliance officer to charge Hibs midfielder Liam Craig after clash with Hearts midfielder Ryan Stevenson during Edin derby#bbcsportscot


What happened, I don't remember anything? maybe some afters I presume

Stevenson fouled Craig IIRC early-ish in the first half, around the first half in front of the East Stand, and Stevenson seemed to be gesturing that an elbow or something was aimed at his face. Guessing it's that. Ref didn't see anything and the incident didn't make the highlights I saw, but he must have a case to answer.

[Sergio sledge]

I thought at the time it looked a bit deliberate. He was tackled and as he was rolling over on the ground Stevenson fell too and it looked like Craig aimed a bit of a kick at his face. It's not on the highlights, so I can't confirm whether my initial impression was right though!

[cabbageandribs1875]

hertz= cheats/thieves....and clipes

[Pretty Boy]

If he did aim a kick at his face he should have made it worth his while.

[Eyrie]

Saw that on the replays and wasn't sure whether it was just how Craig landed after Stevenson's deliberate barge into him or if he was retaliating to the crude challenge.

[matty_f]

Typical of our luck against them that our player gets banjoed and ends up in front of the beaks. :rolleyes:

[Aldo]

Tbh it's the only thing Craig did all nite.

[Spike Mandela]

Just gets better and better.:rolleyes:

[Bishop Hibee]

Where does the trial by video footage start and stop? Utter joke and seems to be totally at the whim of the compliance officer. Does this aparatchik have guidelines and how much autonomy does he have? Is one at every hibs home game? If so he/she should be named and monitored so the paying fan can see if their is consistancy in citing players.

[lord bunberry]

If he's been charged it's a given that he will be getting a ban.

[Hedlund12]

Tbh it's the only thing Craig did all nite.

FFS change the record - didn't you get it all off your chest on other threads when you were slagging of Craig? Let it go an move on!

[cabbageandribs1875]

If he's been charged it's a given that he will be getting a ban.



so i take it that will be classed as violent conduct then ? in which case he will miss PF's last game at Motherwell on Sunday









p.s. the bit in bold is just conjecture/wishful thinking on my part :0

[Mr White]

Is one at every hibs home game? If so he/she should be named and monitored so the paying fan can see if their is consistancy in citing players.

Steady on there Ally, his name is Vincent Lunny and anyone can report an incident for him to review.

[Onion]

Really quite incredible. Would be definitely appealling that. It was the one wide out in the first half where he and the tattoed freak chalenged and I think Craig's boot caught Stevenson. Dont see how that could be seen as deliberate IMO.

If that was the incident at the far side (East Stand), how could someone sitting in the West get a good view of that - at least better than the lino and ref ?

[JimBHibees]

If that was the incident at the far side (East Stand), how could someone sitting in the West get a good view of that - at least better than the lino and ref ?

All they do is watch a re-run, personally dont think it is clear at all.

[Aldo]

FFS change the record - didn't you get it all off your chest on other threads when you were slagging of Craig? Let it go an move on!

I'll decide what I post and when I post. So if your not happy with what's written or posted don't read it. Simple.

[Green Fish]

3 game ban if found guilty

[scott7_0(Prague)]

I'll decide what I post and when I post. So if your not happy with what's written or posted don't read it. Simple.

Oh sweetheart put your toys back in please. :thumbsup:

[Aldo]

Oh sweetheart put your toys back in please. :thumbsup:

No I will not honey :-D

(Grrrrr)

[QMU-1875]

Consistently against hibs, rarely hear of this guy charging anyone else!

[Scouse Hibee]

Consistently against hibs, rarely hear of this guy charging anyone else!

Not true, he's charged plenty.

[Leithenhibby]

Come to your own conclusions :wink:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19817653@N04/10611380446/

[cabbageandribs1875]

why the **** did the freak hold his face :confused: ******* ridiculous

[Baldy]

IMO the Video evidence supports the claim he tried to kick Stevenson .. he may have missed and the play acting is terrible, but never the less he will be getting banned for that

[Aldo]

IMO the Video evidence supports the claim he tried to kick Stevenson .. he may have missed and the play acting is terrible, but never the less he will be getting banned for that

Don't think he did miss. The tattooed freak ended up with a cut to bridge if his nose as a result of it.

Didn't kick him hard enough tbh.

[TRC]

Stevenson hasn't even tried to play the ball though he's not even looking at the ball we scrote

[Treadstone]

26 mins 40 seconds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03gkvxq/Sportscene_Hibernian_v_Heart_of_Midlothian/

I say inconclusive.

[oconnors_strip]

have watched it about 10 times now and i think there is intent from craig so a one or two match ban on the cards for him

[clerriehibs]

Come to your own conclusions :wink:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/19817653@N04/10611380446/


did the ref not give a free kick? So why's lunny interested?

[Hiber-nation]

26 mins 40 seconds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03gkvxq/Sportscene_Hibernian_v_Heart_of_Midlothian/

I say inconclusive.

Hate to say it but guilty....

[jane_says]

did the ref not give a free kick? So why's lunny interested?

The initial foul was from Stevenson so he gave a free kick. The kick from Craig wasn't noticed by the ref but has been seen by Mr Lunny. A bit ridiculous but I think Craig will be out for 3 after that.

[Leithenhibby]

did the ref not give a free kick? So why's lunny interested?

He did indeed.

Got to say, his boot catches him and has been a tad naive.... :wink:

[Hedlund12]

I'll decide what I post and when I post. So if your not happy with what's written or posted don't read it. Simple.
It's rather impossible to decide if I'm not happy with what's written until I've read it! (No point in closing the stable door when the horse has bolted!!)
Good advice in some respect though - when I see a post with your name on it - I'll ignore it! Simples!!:na na:

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

When does his ban start?

[147lothian]

I sit in the near the middle of the east terrace, about six rows from the front, so the incident happened, right in front of me. This is how I seen it, Steveson barched into Craig, knocked him over, and Stevesons momentum was still going forward as Craig rolled over, Craigs boot did catch Stevenson in the face, but that would be some act to do that deliberate while rolling, it was just one of these things. I havent had the benefit of seeing the incident again, but thats how I saw it

[skipster7]

Think he did flick his boot out was merely coincidental to hit the falling freak in the face, all the crap that Hamill was doing all game as well. complete nonsense.:rolleyes:

[wookie70]

It looks deliberate in slow motion but at full speed it is a bit harder to determine. The way our luck is though I suspect we will lose him for 3 games.

[Sir David Gray]

If he's going to kick him, he should have done it in style and made it worth his while.

[Davy Mac]

For goodness sake what's the world coming too, there's nowt in this...........it's gone mad I tell you, mad.

[green day]

No question, it was deliberate. Take the ban.

[Carheenlea]

I sit in the near the middle of the east terrace, about six rows from the front, so the incident happened, right in front of me. This is how I seen it, Steveson barched into Craig, knocked him over, and Stevesons momentum was still going forward as Craig rolled over, Craigs boot did catch Stevenson in the face, but that would be some act to do that deliberate while rolling, it was just one of these things. I havent had the benefit of seeing the incident again, but thats how I saw it

I sit a few rows behind you and my take was that it was accidental with no malice intended. I had a better view than this Lunny character will ever have with his TV cameras. If it was Hearts that put a complaint in I'd say it's they who should be fined, told to man up and come back when they have a genuine complaint.

[ALF TUPPER]

IIRC Stevenson deliberately with malice a forethought did headbut Craig's studs..... m'lud. :agree:

[#FromTheCapital]

Liam Craig definitely deserves a ban for that unfortunately, no idea how anyone can say otherwise..... There's no way he kicked that circus freak hard enough.

[Johnny Clash]

IMO the Video evidence supports the claim he tried to kick Stevenson .. he may have missed and the play acting is terrible, but never the less he will be getting banned for that

I saw it from back of the East and at the time it looked like Liam had brought his leg over in an arch to help him get up after getting deliberately pushed to the deck from behind. I think one of Liam's studs scraped heid the baw's nose. Presumably the compliance officer thinks it was deliberate retaliation and a dangerous act. Liam will be arguing it wasn't deliberate and his boot involuntary ended up in the tattood lady's puss.

Hibs were awarded the foul because of the deliberate push and the ref only got involved to calm things down after Stevenson started whining and waving his finger about.

[number9dream]

One league game and one in next season's League Cup if he is banned...

[greenlex]

It could be argued that Craig tried to play the ball despite being fouled. I would appeal it.

[Billy Whizz]

It could be argued that Craig tried to play the ball despite being fouled. I would appeal it.

How many games would the ban be for?

[Aldo]

How many games would the ban be for?

Think he's been offered 2 games but if appeal failed it would then be 3!

[Billy Whizz]

Think he's been offered 2 games but if appeal failed it would then be 3!

Thanks, 3 games for that, what's football coming too now

[Aldo]

Thanks, 3 games for that, what's football coming too now

I know. He could if at least booted him harder!!!

:-)

Just needs to accept it and move on

[cabbageandribs1875]

A principal hearing date has been set for 7 November, with Craig free to play at Motherwell on Sunday.

If the complaint is upheld, the player will miss the following Premiership match and one match in the League Cup.

[brog]

The whole compliance officer process is farcical. If there's a foul there & if there's intent it's minimal & no worse than happens in nearly every game. The incidents involving McGowan at the end of the cup game last year were considerably worse & nothing happened. The penalty is not too severe so we may accept but I would appeal on principle.

[Geo_1875]

Why an extra game ban if an appeal fails? If you appeal a red card you only lose your £1k deposit.

[RSS Bot]

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[Billy Whizz]

Hibs to appeal notice of complaint against Craig

[brog]

Hibs to appeal notice of complaint against Craig

Good!! We're not in a great place right now but more often than not we as a club do the right thing & IMO its the right thing to appeal this nonsense.

[Hibercelona]

Should have put a tattoo of his boot on the ****s face.

[clerriehibs]

2 mins I to that game, hamill is fouled and then tries to swipe the legs from the fouler. Far more clear-cut than the Craig incident, so why's lunny not interested in it? Does someone have to submit a complaint for him to review anything, and if so, who?

[brog]

2 mins I to that game, hamill is fouled and then tries to swipe the legs from the fouler. Far more clear-cut than the Craig incident, so why's lunny not interested in it? Does someone have to submit a complaint for him to review anything, and if so, who?

Do it!

[Hermit Crab]

Consistently against hibs, rarely hear of this guy charging anyone else!

Rubbish. He's charged Lots. Hearts players included

[Jonnyboy]

All this angst about the compliance officer. I seem to recall he was a top bloke when he nailed tattoo freak a while back

[matty_f]

2 mins I to that game, hamill is fouled and then tries to swipe the legs from the fouler. Far more clear-cut than the Craig incident, so why's lunny not interested in it? Does someone have to submit a complaint for him to review anything, and if so, who?


Do it!

and also mention Hamill's two footed lunge in the box before their goal.

[aunty joyce]

26 mins 40 seconds.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03gkvxq/Sportscene_Hibernian_v_Heart_of_Midlothian/

I say inconclusive.

I don't think it is conclusive - have a wee look again, what was Liam Craig meant to do, Stevenson committed the foul and if Craig hadn't lifted his left leg over Stevenson's body it would have gone right into him . . . I think we're right to appeal it.

[Sean1875]

2 match ban upheld :rolleyes:
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=12800

[Spike Mandela]

2 match ban upheld :rolleyes:
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=12800

I see Cifti got off though.:rolleyes:

[JimBHibees]

2 match ban upheld :rolleyes:
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=12800

Piece of nonsense IMO. Interesting that Ciftci who we were told was about to be banned for 16 games got it all reduced to a booking. Wow.

The double standards with Ciftci IMO with the Thomson sending off earlier in the season where the violent conduct consisted of pulling someone shirt is quite marked.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Piece of nonsense IMO. Interesting that Ciftci who we were told was about to be banned for 16 games got it all reduced to a booking. Wow.

The double standards with Ciftci IMO with the Thomson sending off earlier in the season where the violent conduct consisted of pulling someone shirt is quite marked.


quite bizarre :agree: and how the heck it can be not proven that he had someones face in his hands is baffling, he either did...or he didn't

[Andy74]

So they are saying that was basically a red card for Craig? Never in a million years.

[Sean1875]

"Disciplinary Rule 200: Violent Conduct by grabbing an opposing player by his face."

So the offence is grabbing an opposing player by the face.. which can clearly be seen on the footage of the game. How can they claim that its not proven when there is physical evidence of it happening?

1:30 into the highlights if anyones interested. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24469423

[JimBHibees]

So they are saying that was basically a red card for Craig? Never in a million years.

Yes complete nonsense.

[Andy74]

Yes complete nonsense.

Actually, is it worse? A red card if spotted by the ref would have been a one game ban?

[Billy Whizz]

So I presume he misses the Inverness and St Mirren matches. Won't be available until the Scottish Cup tie against County.
Who's likely to come in for him?

[Dirkster23]

So I presume he misses the Inverness and St Mirren matches. Won't be available until the Scottish Cup tie against County.
Who's likely to come in for him?

Misses the ICT game and then our next League Cup game.

[Heisenberg]

He misses the ICT game and the next league cup match I think.

[Sergio sledge]

I see Cifti got off though.:rolleyes:

What happened to Cifti grabbing the assistant referee by the throat? Has the assistant referee been lying?

It is clear in the footage that Cifti grabs a player by the face, how that can be "not proven" is beyond me.

As for Liam Craig, I said at the time I thought he had aimed a kick at Stevenson and was surprised when Hibs appealed to be honest.

[RSS Bot]

Club appeal against charge unsuccessful



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[CMac1988]

What happened to Cifti grabbing the assistant referee by the throat? Has the assistant referee been lying?

It is clear in the footage that Cifti grabs a player by the face, how that can be "not proven" is beyond me.

As for Liam Craig, I said at the time I thought he had aimed a kick at Stevenson and was surprised when Hibs appealed to be honest.

Thought myself that it was stupid to appeal against the decision. Had the shoe been on the other foot...

That Cifti incident is a strange one though.

I guess they couldn't conclude the issue with the ref but grabbing the player by the face was clear to see?

Perhaps he argued that he was just trying to pull back the player?

[EVENTUALLY]

He misses the ICT game and the next league cup match I think.
Good. Despite his goals I think he is over rated with the heart of a flea. Woeful effort to stop the Celtic winger equalising.
Chance for Stanton if fit otherwise give Dean Horribine a go.

[JimBHibees]

Good. Despite his goals I think he is over rated with the heart of a flea. Woeful effort to stop the Celtic winger equalising.
Chance for Stanton if fit otherwise give Dean Horribine a go.

Wow what an incredible critique of a new signing who has already scored a number of important goals for us. Heart of a flea personally think he is a good standard player who has improved the team and hates getting beat. Very good signing IMO.

[patlowe]

Wow what an incredible critique of a new signing who has already scored a number of important goals for us. Heart of a flea personally think he is a good standard player who has improved the team and hates getting beat. Very good signing IMO.

I think people probably expect a little too much of Craig. He's a decent signing and player but he's not exactly of a standard that we should be building the team around. He's not blessed with great ability or pace but I'm perfectly happy to have him in the team for his decent delivery and the odd goal. If Hibs improve and become more creative under TB (or whoever), he'll hopefully be able to get in more dangerous positions where these factors become more significant.

[Hibercelona]

I think people probably expect a little too much of Craig. He's a decent signing and player but he's not exactly of a standard that we should be building the team around. He's not blessed with great ability or pace but I'm perfectly happy to have him in the team for his decent delivery and the odd goal. If Hibs improve and become more creative under TB (or whoever), he'll hopefully be able to get in more dangerous positions where these factors become more significant.

I think his delivery would be better if he actually crossed the ball in from appropriate positions.

He often tries to lob it into the box from about 40 yards when there are 3-4 defenders back and only Heffernan or Collins who usually aren't in a suitable position to cause damage.

With the goals he's scored so far, i'm surprised we haven't given him a shot up front instead, just to see how he would get on. Would be interesting to see I think.

[3pm]

I suspect he was banned to try and even things up with the pinks.

How many retrospective derby band have they had?

[Spike Mandela]

What happened to Cifti grabbing the assistant referee by the throat? Has the assistant referee been lying?

It is clear in the footage that Cifti grabs a player by the face, how that can be "not proven" is beyond me.

As for Liam Craig, I said at the time I thought he had aimed a kick at Stevenson and was surprised when Hibs appealed to be honest.

Cifti will face another disciplinary later in month for assault on official.......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24854281

[Big_Franck]

So...let me get this right. Cifti's sending off gets reduced from a red to a yellow as his offence was 'adopting a threatening and/or aggressive attitude.'

Was that not exactly the same offence that Thomson was apparently guilty of against Dundee United?? Pretty sure the SFA rejected the appeal and stated that the red card would stand for 'adopting a threatening and/or aggressive attitude.' :rolleyes:

[Bad Habits]

can't believe that, didn't see the Liam Craig incident but if he did kick him in the face he deserves the ban. however the Cifti decision is a joke, you can clearly see him grabbing the opposition players face AND he laid his hands on a member of the refereeing staff and gets off scot-free. Is it just me or do we never seem to get the breaks with this sort of thing? other clubs seem to benefit from this with rescinded red cards etc. but we only ever get bans?

[Sir David Gray]

Good. Despite his goals I think he is over rated with the heart of a flea. Woeful effort to stop the Celtic winger equalising.
Chance for Stanton if fit otherwise give Dean Horribine a go.

Unbelievable.

[Sir David Gray]

Club appeal against charge unsuccessful



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I'm not surprised that the appeal failed, however does the SFA just make up their rules as they go along with regards to when a player will serve their punishment?

I have never heard of a player, who has been banned retrospectively, receiving a two match ban, one of which is to be served immediately in a completely different competition and the other match is to be served in the player's next match in the competition in which the offence took place.

Is there a precedent for this type of thing? :confused:

[RyeSloan]

I'm not surprised that the appeal failed, however does the SFA just make up their rules as they go along with regards to when a player will serve their punishment? I have never heard of a player, who has been banned retrospectively, receiving a two match ban, one of which is to be served immediately in a completely different competition and the other match is to be served in the player's next match in the competition in which the offence took place. Is there a precedent for this type of thing? :confused:

Is a rather bizzare state of affairs.

[TRC]

i Also thought you couldn't get a retrospective ban if the incident was dealt with by the ref?:confused: