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joe breezy
17-10-2013, 02:21 AM
What is the difference between calling a Pakistani a Paki and a Lithuanian a Lith?
jgl07
17-10-2013, 02:35 AM
What is the difference between calling a Pakistani a Paki and a Lithuanian a Lith?

Or calling a Scotsman a Scot?
bighairyfaeleith
17-10-2013, 06:23 AM
Or a Hibernian fan a hibby?

Or a hearts fan a kiddy fiddling sympathiser inbred freak?
Onceinawhile
17-10-2013, 06:40 AM
What is the difference between calling a Pakistani a Paki and a Lithuanian a Lith?

Because paki is 1) usually Used in an insulting context, where as here lith is clearly not.
2) paki is historically a racial slur, lith is not.
HUTCHYHIBBY
17-10-2013, 06:57 AM
What is the difference between calling a Pakistani a Paki and a Lithuanian a Lith?

Could be an interesting day ahead, just wish I had some popcorn!
Scouse Hibee
17-10-2013, 07:29 AM
What is the difference between calling a Pakistani a Paki and a Lithuanian a Lith?

As far as I know there isn't a difference they both mean the same to me, shortened versions of a name.
brian6-2
17-10-2013, 07:43 AM
Could be an interesting day ahead, just wish I had some popcorn!

Glad ive got bugger all to do at work, this could be a belter. :agree:
HUTCHYHIBBY
17-10-2013, 07:54 AM
Glad ive got bugger all to do at work, this could be a belter. :agree:

The pitchforks havnae been out the shed since the Tam Cowan thread!
stoneyburn hibs
17-10-2013, 07:56 AM
I am the first to be outraged
brian6-2
17-10-2013, 08:05 AM
do welsh people find the term "taffy" insulting?

genuine question btw, im aware of the term but dont know if its a derogatory term or what.
lapsedhibee
17-10-2013, 08:31 AM
I'd be proud to be called Taffy.

But I'd be very careful not to offer a peanut to a black guy in a pub in case he thought I was offering him a monkey nut.
SaulGoodman
17-10-2013, 09:55 AM
Isn't it because most people that get called 'Pakis' aren't even from Pakistan and the generalisation is based on their skin colour?
Pretty Boy
17-10-2013, 12:02 PM
Isn't it because most people that get called 'Pakis' aren't even from Pakistan and the generalisation is based on their skin colour?

Pretty much exactly this.
matty_f
17-10-2013, 12:05 PM
Isn't it because most people that get called 'Pakis' aren't even from Pakistan and the generalisation is based on their skin colour?

We have a winner. Give this man a prize :greengrin
lord bunberry
17-10-2013, 12:34 PM
As far as I know there isn't a difference they both mean the same to me, shortened versions of a name.

As far as I'm aware Pakistan means land of the paki, the same as Afghanistan or Kazakhstan. Paki is the correct term to use the same as we call people afghans. The problem is over the years it has been used in a derogatory manner so is no longer an acceptable way of describing someone from Pakistan.
RyeSloan
17-10-2013, 01:34 PM
As far as I'm aware Pakistan means land of the paki, the same as Afghanistan or Kazakhstan. Paki is the correct term to use the same as we call people afghans. The problem is over the years it has been used in a derogatory manner so is no longer an acceptable way of describing someone from Pakistan.

Not sure you would call someone afghanistani but would would someone Pakistani.

No reason why not...probably some grammatical rule.
Geo_1875
17-10-2013, 01:39 PM
Not sure you would call someone afghanistani but would would someone Pakistani.

No reason why not...probably some grammatical rule.

People from Afghanistan are called Afghans or described as Afghani. Surely people from Pakistan can be called Paks or Paki, but only as an adjective.
(((Fergus)))
17-10-2013, 02:10 PM
People from Afghanistan are called Afghans or described as Afghani. Surely people from Pakistan can be called Paks or Paki, but only as an adjective.

Pakistan isn't named after some people called "Paks", it is a recent invention and means "Land of the Pure" in Urdu. It is also an acronym of the former provinces Punjab, NWFP (Afghan), Kashmir, Sindh and Baluchistan. The "i" was added to ease pronunciation.
steakbake
17-10-2013, 02:20 PM
We have a winner. Give this man a prize :greengrin

A year long subscription to the Daily Mail?
hibby rae
17-10-2013, 08:53 PM
Pakistan isn't named after some people called "Paks", it is a recent invention and means "Land of the Pure" in Urdu. It is also an acronym of the former provinces Punjab, NWFP (Afghan), Kashmir, Sindh and Baluchistan. The "i" was added to ease pronunciation.

Yeah first suggested in 1933.
Geo_1875
17-10-2013, 09:07 PM
Wikipedia must be working overtime tonight.

Can anybody tell me when the Northwest Frontier Province changed it's name to Afghanistan? No cheating now.
CropleyWasGod
17-10-2013, 09:15 PM
Wikipedia must be working overtime tonight.

Can anybody tell me when the Northwest Frontier Province changed it's name to Afghanistan? No cheating now.

When Sid James and Kenneth Williams were there?
Geo_1875
17-10-2013, 09:47 PM
When Sid James and Kenneth Williams were there?

You've just opened a big can of innuendo :)
CropleyWasGod
17-10-2013, 09:56 PM
You've just opened a big can of innuendo :)

D'you think they'll have it infamy?
ballengeich
17-10-2013, 10:29 PM
Pakistan isn't named after some people called "Paks", it is a recent invention and means "Land of the Pure" in Urdu. It is also an acronym of the former provinces Punjab, NWFP (Afghan), Kashmir, Sindh and Baluchistan. The "i" was added to ease pronunciation.

Interesting, as Lith is an acronym of Loathsome Investors Trashing Hearts.
hibby rae
18-10-2013, 06:39 AM
Wikipedia must be working overtime tonight.

Can anybody tell me when the Northwest Frontier Province changed it's name to Afghanistan? No cheating now.

Never did! North West Frontier province now known as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa! I'm currently studying South Asian Studies as my outside subject at Edinburgh! ;) Can't say for sure when but my guess would be 1947 after Partition.
Jack
18-10-2013, 08:51 AM
Never did! North West Frontier province now known as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa! I'm currently studying South Asian Studies as my outside subject at Edinburgh! ;) Can't say for sure when but my guess would be 1947 after Partition.

Was the Partition ever shortened to Party?
Geo_1875
18-10-2013, 10:05 AM
Never did! North West Frontier province now known as Khyber Pakhtunkhwa! I'm currently studying South Asian Studies as my outside subject at Edinburgh! ;) Can't say for sure when but my guess would be 1947 after Partition.

I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. I was questioning the statement regarding the source of the name Pakistan. Damn that Wikipedia. My own knowledge of the areas history comes from The Man Who Would be King and Carry on up the Khyber.
hibby rae
18-10-2013, 12:19 PM
I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. I was questioning the statement regarding the source of the name Pakistan. Damn that Wikipedia. My own knowledge of the areas history comes from The Man Who Would be King and Carry on up the Khyber.

The Man Who Would Be King is a fantastic film! But yeah the name Pakistan does indeed come from that source.
hibby rae
18-10-2013, 12:21 PM
Was the Partition ever shortened to Party?

Ha! Doubt, it the whole thing was one giant cluster****!
(((Fergus)))
18-10-2013, 04:31 PM
I bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. I was questioning the statement regarding the source of the name Pakistan. Damn that Wikipedia. My own knowledge of the areas history comes from The Man Who Would be King and Carry on up the Khyber.

Apparently the name "Afghania" was proposed for NWFP at about the time that the name "Pakistan" was proposed - which suggests that it chosen to fit the acronym. "Pnwfkistan" doesn't really work.