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IanM
11-09-2013, 09:10 AM
Will we see him pitched in the starting 11 on Saturday?

I read Fenlon doesn't want him to feel burdened with expectations, but surely our only expectation at this time is to see him play?

It's a big game on Saturday and a big 3 points.. we need our big players on show and I think Zouby will be just that..

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 09:17 AM
Let's forget this 'manage our expectations, ease him into the team slowly' pish.

I want him tearing up the sideline for 90 minutes with the most luminous boots he can get his hands on. He's going to be a stepover-ing, jinking 40 yard screamer-scoring bona fide legend.

:sauzee:

matty_f
11-09-2013, 09:21 AM
Let's forget this 'manage our expectations, ease him into the team slowly' pish.

I want him tearing up the sideline for 90 minutes with the most luminous boots he can get his hands on. He's going to be a stepover-ing, jinking 40 yard screamer-scoring bona fide legend.

:sauzee:

And it was with that solitary, throw-away post, that Zoubir's Hibs career was destined for hilarious failure, with Kujabi-esque free kick skills and AOB ability.

Curse you Hibsbollah, you've f***ed it for everyone now.

Keith_M
11-09-2013, 09:45 AM
And it was with that solitary, throw-away post, that Zoubir's Hibs career was destined for hilarious failure, with Kujabi-esque free kick skills and AOB ability.

Curse you Hibsbollah, you've f***ed it for everyone now.


:agree:


We might as well send the laddie back to France now.

Golden Bear
11-09-2013, 09:54 AM
Will we see him pitched in the starting 11 on Saturday?

I read Fenlon doesn't want him to feel burdened with expectations, but surely our only expectation at this time is to see him play?

It's a big game on Saturday and a big 3 points.. we need our big players on show and I think Zouby will be just that..

:rolleyes:

Now why does that statement not surprise me.

It's so typical of boring, boring Pat, we've absolutely no right to expect excitement after all.

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 10:00 AM
And it was with that solitary, throw-away post, that Zoubir's Hibs career was destined for hilarious failure, with Kujabi-esque free kick skills and AOB ability.

Curse you Hibsbollah, you've f***ed it for everyone now.

I just want some joy in my life again:boo hoo:

dangermouse
11-09-2013, 10:07 AM
I just want some joy in my life again:boo hoo:

Internet porn, allegedly :rolleyes:

patch1875
11-09-2013, 10:40 AM
Will be on the bench I reckon

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 10:41 AM
Internet porn, allegedly :rolleyes:

Don't you dare speak about my girlfriend again :fenlon

matty_f
11-09-2013, 10:44 AM
Don't you dare speak about my girlfriend again :fenlon

You're dating hibsbollah?! :confused:

Thecat23
11-09-2013, 10:44 AM
The guys a player from what I was told from one of the first team lads. Said he was shocked at how good he actually is. Thinks he will cause defences all sorts and score a few as well.

Also said Jimmy Nicohol has been a breath of fresh air. Training has improved by miles. I for one am looking forward to seeing him play.

Billy Whizz
11-09-2013, 10:44 AM
Depends if Handling is fit or not I think

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 10:49 AM
You're dating hibsbollah?! :confused:

He always cuddles afterwards. A man like that is hard to find.

Craig_in_Prague
11-09-2013, 10:50 AM
He must start, simples.
None of this bedding him in slowly, he's a football player who is fit and ready and unless Pat actually wants the sack, he will surely start. We cannot continue with the "football" we've suffered so far.

PeterboroHibee
11-09-2013, 10:51 AM
Will be on the bench I reckon

It sounds like it. If we had a slightly more competent team going forward, and he was our player, I could understand slowly easing him in. The fact is though we rarely have any shots on target in games and dont create very much, so if we have a player that offers that spark I dont see the point in not playing him, especially when hes only here for a short period of time.

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 10:54 AM
, I could understand slowly easing him in.

This thread has taken a very unsavoury turn.

matty_f
11-09-2013, 10:56 AM
This thread has taken a very unsavoury turn.

:hilarious

BT58
11-09-2013, 11:05 AM
start Zoubi and Heffernan,,,looks like PF has some BIG decisions,,just hope the fans get a wee bit entertainment :thumbsup::thumbsup:
BT

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 11:07 AM
This thread has taken a very unsavoury turn.

:faf:

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 11:11 AM
Zoubir with a free licence to support Heffernan and Collins on any flank he wishes and three midfielders carrying out their rudimentary duties (Robertson, KT and Taiwo).

McGivern, Forster, Nelson and a right back of some repute in the defence.

Fenlons teamtalk: "Sod tactics, football is a simple game, you all have a brain in your head. Go out and enjoy yourselves and entertain. I only ask one thing; every one of you gives 100%"

And that my friends, is the simple gameplan to courageously lead us to a comprehensive 4v0 defeat on Saturday. Simples.

Golden Bear
11-09-2013, 11:17 AM
Zoubir with a free licence to support Heffernan and Collins on any flank he wishes and three midfielders carrying out their rudimentary duties (Robertson, KT and Taiwo).

McGivern, Forster, Nelson and a right back of some repute in the defence.

Fenlons teamtalk: "Sod tactics, football is a simple game, you all have a brain in your head. Go out and enjoy yourselves and entertain. I only ask one thing; every one of you gives 100%"

And that my friends, is the simple gameplan to courageously lead us to a comprehensive 4v0 defeat on Saturday. Simples.

:greengrin

Ah - you never let us down! It was quite a sensible post up until that last sentence.

matty_f
11-09-2013, 11:18 AM
:greengrin

Ah - you never let us down! It was quite a sensible post up until that last sentence.

:agree: Should have been at least 6-0.

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 11:25 AM
:agree: Should have been at least 6-0.

Take it you weren't at the game? We brought on 8 defensive midfielders at half-time to limit the damage.

F*****g stay-away fans :fenlon

Gatecrasher
11-09-2013, 11:31 AM
And it was with that solitary, throw-away post, that Zoubir's Hibs career was destined for hilarious failure, with Kujabi-esque free kick skills and AOB ability.

Curse you Hibsbollah, you've f***ed it for everyone now.


:agree:


We might as well send the laddie back to France now.


Internet porn, allegedly :rolleyes:


Don't you dare speak about my girlfriend again :fenlon


You're dating hibsbollah?! :confused:


He always cuddles afterwards. A man like that is hard to find.


This thread has taken a very unsavoury turn.
:top marks
:faf:

Paisley Hibby
11-09-2013, 11:38 AM
Will we see him pitched in the starting 11 on Saturday?

I read Fenlon doesn't want him to feel burdened with expectations, but surely our only expectation at this time is to see him play?

It's a big game on Saturday and a big 3 points.. we need our big players on show and I think Zouby will be just that..

Oh FFS! Fenlon is such a boring negative ****.

Andy74
11-09-2013, 11:43 AM
Oh FFS! Fenlon is such a boring negative ****.

He's not the only one.

blackpoolhibs
11-09-2013, 11:48 AM
Oh FFS! Fenlon is such a boring negative ****.

:agree: Imagine wanting or even expecting anything exciting to happen down easter road way under fenlon?

What's on at the pictures? :rolleyes:

matty_f
11-09-2013, 11:52 AM
:agree: Imagine wanting or even expecting anything exciting to happen down easter road way under fenlon?

What's on at the pictures? :rolleyes:

Hibsbollah and Pedantic Do Dallas Part 2- Dallas' s Revenge

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 12:04 PM
Hibsbollah and Pedantic Do Dallas Part 2- Dallas' s Revenge

"That's not a sex toy, Bollah, it's a bloody weather thermometer!!!"

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 12:05 PM
Hibsbollah and Pedantic Do Dallas Part 2- Dallas' s Revenge

Hibsbollah - "It's mainly dry with a few damp patches"

Pedantic - "Why are you pointing at your trousers?"

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 12:07 PM
He's not the only one.

:faf:

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 12:22 PM
Hibsbollah - "It's mainly dry with a few damp patches"

Pedantic - "Why are you pointing at your trousers?"

http://www.freesmileys.org/custom/image/red%5E_%5Egeorgia%5E_%5E0%5E_%5E0%5E_%5EMainly dry with a few damp patches%5E_%5E.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/custom)

dangermouse
11-09-2013, 12:35 PM
:agree: Imagine wanting or even expecting anything exciting to happen down easter road way under fenlon?

What's on at the pictures? :rolleyes:


Hibsbollah and Pedantic Do Dallas Part 2- Dallas' s Revenge


Hibsbollah - "It's mainly dry with a few damp patches"

Pedantic - "Why are you pointing at your trousers?"

Sounds more like Brokeback Mountain II

Viva_Palmeiras
11-09-2013, 12:35 PM
Hibsbollah and Pedantic Do Dallas Part 2- Dallas' s Revenge

.... Hugh gets tough after being struck on the head by a 50 pence piece.

Leishy1995
11-09-2013, 01:05 PM
If Zoubir fails I blame bollah

Hibernia Na Eir
11-09-2013, 01:09 PM
what do we have to lose by not staring Zoubz on Saturday?
Fenlon has to start him.

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 01:16 PM
Fenlon has to start him.

No he doesn't.

blackpoolhibs
11-09-2013, 01:22 PM
No he doesn't.

Correct, he might not know all the names yet, or even be dyslexic? :timebomb:

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 01:57 PM
If Zoubir fails I blame bollah

If Zoubir (AKA The Hammer of the Huns) has a proper 'Woodgate' of a debut I'll be on here the next day to take the grief for jinxing him. If he's sent on as a defensive sub by Fenlon with 15 minutes left in the Lewis role though, I can't be held responsible. Man up, girlfren'.

SMAXXA
11-09-2013, 02:00 PM
This lads got high expectations riding on him already and no one on here has even seen him play pretty much. Really hope he doesn't end up on the end of a backlash if he doesn't hit the ground running.

if he starts then great if not fingers crossed he does well whenever he gets his opportunity

B.H.F.C
11-09-2013, 02:07 PM
For me, we need someone to come in and make an immediate impact. He's unknown to us but he's also unknown to the rest of the league. Get him in the team on Saturday and lets see what he can do. The Ross County game was as toothless an attacking performance as you will ever see so I really think Pat needs to mix it up a bit and cut out the predictable crap. However, I think he will put him on the bench.

Thecat23
11-09-2013, 02:08 PM
If Zoubir has a proper 'Woodgate' of a debut I'll be on here the next day to take the grief for jinxing him. If he's sent on as a defensive sub by Fenlon with 15 minutes left in the Lewis role though, I can't be held responsible. Man up, girlfren'.

Giving him the "D" later I take it ;D

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 02:25 PM
This lads got high expectations riding on him already and no one on here has even seen him play pretty much. Really hope he doesn't end up on the end of a backlash if he doesn't hit the ground running.



:agree:

This will be Fenlon's exact thinking too.

Nothing to do with being negative. Just taking care of his player.

Pete
11-09-2013, 02:36 PM
The guys a player from what I was told from one of the first team lads. Said he was shocked at how good he actually is. Thinks he will cause defences all sorts and score a few as well.

Also said Jimmy Nicohol has been a breath of fresh air. Training has improved by miles. I for one am looking forward to seeing him play.

This is the sort of stuff I want to hear.

Time to start climbing the league!

Stevie Reid
11-09-2013, 02:46 PM
:agree:

This will be Fenlon's exact thinking too.

Nothing to do with being negative. Just taking care of his player.

Correct. But for some it's the perfect excuse to have a go at Fenlon for not playing him. Even though he hasn't not played him yet.

It makes perfect sense :agree:

Dunderhall
11-09-2013, 02:52 PM
Sounds more like Brokeback Mountain II
Broke Back Mounting, injury prone 'bollah out for three months.
Put in a side ward first to manage expectations and reduce pressure.

Once he wins three games in a row of a Hibs version of guess who he is introduced into the main ward.

brian6-2
11-09-2013, 02:56 PM
I'll be waiting to see him play before i make any judgement on him, whether thats as a sub or start.

Granted he had a good closed door game v the huns but who's to say he isnt another de graaf? a player who does it in training and friendlies but is completely guff when it boils down to it.

I think we may be expecting a wee bit to much of the lad already.

down-the-slope
11-09-2013, 02:59 PM
Anya....anyone who watched this lad play for Scotland yesterday and has not had their football mojo return needs medical attention...

Bung Zouby in and see if we can have the same sort of magical day..

What have we got to lose? if it all goes mammeries up then at least the group kicking of HibsBollah will be a consolation :devil:

brog
11-09-2013, 03:01 PM
Pretty sure he'll be on bench & IMO that would be correct decision. I expect him to get some reasonable game time though regardless of how the game is going & I'm sure Heff will start though Vine will want to do well vs his former club.

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 03:04 PM
Pretty sure he'll be on bench.


Boooo

Stevie Reid
11-09-2013, 03:06 PM
We did a good job of getting Harris on the ball on the opening day v Motherwell, it was just a shame that he had a mare of a first half and got injured just as he was coming onto a game in the second.

We can get this lad on the ball too, and it sounds like we have a lot to look forward to if he is as good in matches as he is in training.

We've had a grim start to the season so let people get excited about the prospect of seeing this lad if they want, it's no big deal - we should look forward to seeing new players. Similarly, Fenlon feels the need to ensure that there isn't too much pressure on his shoulders, and that's fair enough from a man management point of view - some players express themselves best with no pressure, others thrive under it. We'll see what this lad can do.

Fenlon's said a couple of words about him, but so what? All that matters is how he plays, when he plays.

Robinho08
11-09-2013, 04:27 PM
He'll start... at right back. ;-)

Keith_M
11-09-2013, 04:34 PM
He'll start... at right back. ;-)


That's no problem, he has the speed to combine that with right winger.


I heard he's really fast. Like Alan O'Brien on a 2CV.

ancient hibee
11-09-2013, 05:15 PM
He's here for a year's loan-if he doesn't play there's no point in him being here.

Golden Bear
11-09-2013, 05:19 PM
PF will only play the guy if he feels his hand has been forced.

As long as the scoreline remains at 0-0 on Saturday then he'll be happy enough.

That's ambition for you.

nonshinyfinish
11-09-2013, 06:05 PM
Hibsbollah - "It's mainly dry with a few damp patches"

Pedantic - "Why are you pointing at your trousers?"

Did you know that tumescence can be expressed in millibars? That's why they always cut to a torso shot when the weatherman gets to the air pressure map.

Andy74
11-09-2013, 06:24 PM
He'll start... at right back. ;-)

Never gets old...

Andy74
11-09-2013, 06:25 PM
PF will only play the guy if he feels his hand has been forced.

As long as the scoreline remains at 0-0 on Saturday then he'll be happy enough.

That's ambition for you.

He's a right idiot for looking for and then signing a winger then eh?

Jonnyboy
11-09-2013, 07:12 PM
This lads got high expectations riding on him already and no one on here has even seen him play pretty much. Really hope he doesn't end up on the end of a backlash if he doesn't hit the ground running.

if he starts then great if not fingers crossed he does well whenever he gets his opportunity

He sure has. Plenty on here named him in their starting eleven even before he fluked two goals against some lower league nonentity :greengrin

hibsbollah
11-09-2013, 07:17 PM
He sure has. Plenty on here named him in their starting eleven even before he fluked two goals against some lower league nonentity :greengrin

If you ask me expectations arent high enough. I have it on good authority that he can do the crossbar challenge five consecutive times with his eyes shut, and the pigeons around East Mains have stopped their normal evening songs and can clearly be heard cooing 'Zoubir...zoubir' whenever he's on the ball :agree:

Jonnyboy
11-09-2013, 07:27 PM
If you ask me expectations arent high enough. I have it on good authority that he can do the crossbar challenge five consecutive times with his eyes shut, and the pigeons around East Mains have stopped their normal evening songs and can clearly be heard cooing 'Zoubir...zoubir' whenever he's on the ball :agree:

It's all true I tell ya ................ :greengrin

micka_weer
11-09-2013, 08:40 PM
Also said Jimmy Nicohol has been a breath of fresh air. Training has improved by miles. I for one am looking forward to seeing him play.

Surely we're not that desperate yet?

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 08:48 PM
Did you know that tumescence can be expressed in millibars? That's why they always cut to a torso shot when the weatherman gets to the air pressure map.

Awesome post!

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing024.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Hibbyradge
11-09-2013, 08:50 PM
Surely we're not that desperate yet?

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

California-Hibs
11-09-2013, 11:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlMeVVKUFk

Not sure if this has already been posted or not. Interview with Zoubir, in which he also shows off some nice skills with the ball!

I'm keeping my feet on the ground with this one but I'm pretty sure this guy will be the next Zidane.

:wink:

down-the-slope
11-09-2013, 11:13 PM
Zoubir turns out to be mince.. .Net experts claim manager / scouts / board could not spot talent at a playboy party


Zoubir turns out to be a revelation.... .Net experts claim that manager / board were short sighted... loan deals (particularly one year) should never be done...why did we not buy him



:rolleyes:

RyeSloan
11-09-2013, 11:47 PM
Zoubir turns out to be mince.. .Net experts claim manager / scouts / board could not spot talent at a playboy party

Zoubir turns out to be a revelation.... .Net experts claim that manager / board were short sighted... loan deals (particularly one year) should never be done...why did we not buy him

:rolleyes:

You forgot the 'got lucky' option as well.......

Pedantic_Hibee
11-09-2013, 11:57 PM
I heard we could have got him for 150k in January.....

SquashedFrogg
12-09-2013, 06:10 AM
I heard we could have got him for 150k in January.....

This

whiskas
12-09-2013, 06:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlMeVVKUFk

Not sure if this has already been posted or not. Interview with Zoubir, in which he also shows off some nice skills with the ball!

I'm keeping my feet on the ground with this one but I'm pretty sure this guy will be the next Zidane.

:wink:

Id be happy with the next Zemamma tbh!

Interesting to hear about his futsal background too

hibsbollah
14-09-2013, 03:54 PM
Got eleven minutes, beat two men, got two crosses over, won a free kick.
:aok:

BOB MARLEYS DUG
14-09-2013, 04:10 PM
Got eleven minutes, beat two men, got two crosses over, won a free kick.
:aok:

He got pace?:wink:

DarrenSQH
14-09-2013, 05:25 PM
He looks good. Very skilful and desperate to get on.

The touch over the far side was quality.

Andy74
14-09-2013, 05:34 PM
This boy looked a bit special!

Off the bar
14-09-2013, 05:48 PM
maybe his poor command of english means he can't understand Pats' tactics and just goes out and plays his natural game, this is what I'm hoping for as I'm pretty much pinning my hopes for the rest of the season on this boy!

allez zoubi!

LaMotta
14-09-2013, 05:54 PM
More importantly, his boots were a dreadful bright fusion of pink and sky blue.

God Petrie
14-09-2013, 06:04 PM
I'm looking forward to him headbutting hamill in the chest.

matty_f
14-09-2013, 06:17 PM
I'm looking forward to him headbutting hamill in the chest.

And the resulting penalty for handball we get.

hibsbollah
14-09-2013, 06:17 PM
More importantly, his boots were a dreadful bright fusion of pink and sky blue.

A very promising sign indeed :agree:

lucky
14-09-2013, 06:49 PM
Played very well when came on. Beat his man every time and put a couple of crosses in.

hfc rd
14-09-2013, 07:17 PM
Him and Harris on each wing looks very exciting times indeed.

B.H.F.C
14-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Just seeing a Hibs player think about nothing else other than taking players on is so bloody refreshing

PPZPOL
14-09-2013, 07:34 PM
Got eleven minutes, beat two men, got two crosses over, won a free kick.
:aok:

That is honestly more than some wingers have produced in several games for us over the years. Really looking forward to him developing and seeing him go past people, games just open up so much when you have someone who can go by a man. AlexH is the same so hopefully we get him back and have some excitement going forward for a change.

HibbyKeith
14-09-2013, 07:52 PM
That is honestly more than some wingers have produced in several games for us over the years. Really looking forward to him developing and seeing him go past people, games just open up so much when you have someone who can go by a man. AlexH is the same so hopefully we get him back and have some excitement going forward for a change.

He may have just eclipsed Alan O'Brien's entire career in 11 mins.

...WentToMowAnSPL
14-09-2013, 08:12 PM
He may have just eclipsed Alan O'Brien's entire career in 11 mins.

Excellent !!!

franks
14-09-2013, 08:22 PM
He may have just eclipsed Alan O'Brien's entire career in 11 mins.

HE certainly did but lets not get too carried away. He was excellent when he came on today and I am really optimistic about his future. But it was 11 or so mins and I reserve judgement but can't wait to see him play again.

Billy Whizz
14-09-2013, 08:31 PM
HE certainly did but lets not get too carried away. He was excellent when he came on today and I am really optimistic about his future. But it was 11 or so mins and I reserve judgement but can't wait to see him play again.

Promising I agree, and i enjoyed his performance. When he's put 4/5 back to back performances for the team, then I'll be happy

Up The Bracket
14-09-2013, 08:33 PM
Zoubir really looked like something special when he came on, would start him next week.

marinello59
14-09-2013, 08:43 PM
He looks good. Very skilful and desperate to get on.

The touch over the far side was quality.

That touch was sublime.
It's very early days but watching a Hibs player so willing to dribble with the ball was very entertaining.

Jonnyboy
14-09-2013, 08:49 PM
That touch was sublime.
It's very early days but watching a Hibs player so willing to dribble with the ball was very entertaining.

Not a word you see often on here :greengrin

I'm sure somebody will be along soon to tell us that because Zouby failed at one nutmeg attempt he's been found out to be a one trick pony :wink:

Heedersnvolleys
14-09-2013, 08:51 PM
Looks very keen to impress, must have warmed up for about 20mins on front of us and kept looking towards the bench to get the shout. Hope he starts next week. Just have to keep Goodwin away from him as he is likely to cause an injury to his skinny legs ;-)

Leitherhibs
14-09-2013, 09:00 PM
Stranraer in league cup. Perfect outing for him.

hibsbollah
14-09-2013, 09:48 PM
Looks very keen to impress, must have warmed up for about 20mins on front of us and kept looking towards the bench to get the shout. Hope he starts next week. Just have to keep Goodwin away from him as he is likely to cause an injury to his skinny legs ;-)

Goodwin more likely to be head to head with KT I reckon. Although Goodwins played in defence, not midfield, the last couple of times we've played them IIRC?

Heisenberg
14-09-2013, 09:50 PM
Goodwin is a total walloper. I took great delight in Sparky ripping him time and time again last season. Hopefully Zoubir can give him some more of that next weekend.

Nailrod
15-09-2013, 02:23 PM
He may have just eclipsed Alan O'Brien's entire career in 11 mins.Hey! That's unfair. In his fifty-odd appearances for the club AO'B contributed one assist. Zoubir hasn't got any yet.

Onceinawhile
15-09-2013, 02:30 PM
Hey! That's unfair. In his fifty-odd appearances for the club AO'B contributed one assist. Zoubir hasn't got any yet.

Two assists!!

blackpoolhibs
15-09-2013, 02:32 PM
Hey! That's unfair. In his fifty-odd appearances for the club AO'B contributed one assist. Zoubir hasn't got any yet.

Surely you are not another who has forgotten the great defensive cover he did against Gretna, when backtracking with his man and putting the ball out for a throw, 35th minute of the game if my memory is correct?

Andy came in his boxers apparently. :wink:

FastEddieFelson
15-09-2013, 02:42 PM
Two assists!!

for nish against celtic and for fletcher against hearts - any more?

Broken Gnome
15-09-2013, 02:46 PM
for nish against celtic and for fletcher against hearts - any more?

Not sure you can even give him the Celtic one, he was third last player to touch the ball. Was Fletcher's the shoulder one?

Lets go for one. Sounds better.

Billy Whizz
15-09-2013, 02:49 PM
Goodwin more likely to be head to head with KT I reckon. Although Goodwins played in defence, not midfield, the last couple of times we've played them IIRC?

Goodwins playing in defence just now. They played 3 at the back yesterday against Motherwell, Goodwin, McAusland and McGregor.

hfc rd
15-09-2013, 02:59 PM
Goodwins playing in defence just now. They played 3 at the back yesterday against Motherwell, Goodwin, McAusland and McGregor.


I'm sure it was 4. Danny Grainger played I'm pretty sure. McGregor was at RB.

Billy Whizz
15-09-2013, 03:00 PM
I'm sure it was 4. Danny Grainger played I'm pretty sure. McGregor was at RB.

I heard the Danny Lennon interview on Sportsound in the way back from Perth, and he spoke about playing 3 at the back yesterday, and how he thought it worked out well, although they lost the game. Might suit him to play like this against us, as we don't play wingers, unless we start witj Zoubir

lucky
15-09-2013, 03:01 PM
Zoubir did well yesterday. But can't see PF change a winning team. Also if he comes in who drops out? Robertson had his best game for Hibs yesterday and Craig has done nothing to be dropped for.

hfc rd
15-09-2013, 03:02 PM
Zoubir did well yesterday. But can't see PF change a winning team. Also if he comes in who drops out? Robertson had his best game for Hibs yesterday and Craig has done nothing to be dropped for.


Maybe Taiwo? Put Robertson in the middle with Thomson.

NadeAteMyLunch!
15-09-2013, 03:09 PM
In a few months we will hopefully be lining up with...

Harris...KT...Robertson/Craig...Zouby

Heff...........Collins

Now that's pretty exciting :-D

Up The Bracket
15-09-2013, 03:16 PM
I really don't know who we'll drop when Harris gets back, unless Zoubir somehow flops.

Craig, Thomson and Robertson all cannot be dropped for me, all been very good in the past few games IMO.

We know what Harris can do and if Zoubir shows more of what we saw yesterday then we could have a selection headache and when was the last time we had 5 excellent midfielders?

Andy74
15-09-2013, 03:19 PM
Surely you are not another who has forgotten the great defensive cover he did against Gretna, when backtracking with his man and putting the ball out for a throw, 35th minute of the game if my memory is correct?

Andy came in his boxers apparently. :wink:

Ah, those were the days.

nonshinyfinish
15-09-2013, 03:34 PM
Got eleven minutes, beat two men, got two crosses over, won a free kick.
:aok:


More importantly, his boots were a dreadful bright fusion of pink and sky blue.

Exotic continental name... check.
Fancy-Dan boots... check
Might actually be alright at football... provisional check.

Cult hero. :agree:

Diclonius
15-09-2013, 03:44 PM
Hey! That's unfair. In his fifty-odd appearances for the club AO'B contributed one assist. Zoubir hasn't got any yet.

To be fair, it was for the winner against Hearts.

micka_weer
15-09-2013, 04:53 PM
In a few months we will hopefully be lining up with...

Harris...KT...Robertson/Craig...Zouby

Heff...........Collins

Now that's pretty exciting :-D

As promising as that looks, I reckon we'll struggle if we don't play a goalkeeper or defenders? ;-)

NadeAteMyLunch!
15-09-2013, 05:02 PM
Don't be so negative, playing defenders has held us back for years. With attacking players as good as them we really shouldn't need anyone behind them

micka_weer
15-09-2013, 06:16 PM
Don't be so negative, playing defenders has held us back for years. With attacking players as good as them we really shouldn't need anyone behind them

:-)

Heedersnvolleys
15-09-2013, 09:28 PM
In a few months we will hopefully be lining up with...

Harris...KT...Robertson/Craig...Zouby

Heff...........Collins

Now that's pretty exciting :-D

I think if anybody thinks PF will start with 4 attacking minded midfielders is having a laugh:thumbsup:

OJT surely has a chance of getting in there somewhere ;-):aok:

FastEddieFelson
15-09-2013, 10:48 PM
Not sure you can even give him the Celtic one, he was third last player to touch the ball. Was Fletcher's the shoulder one?

Lets go for one. Sounds better.

you're right, I forgot rankin's part in the goal

http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x7rbwt_hibernian-2-0-celtic-but-nish_sport

and yeah, it came off Fletcher's shoulder and looped over balloch, who was later sent off along with bamba
. I think...

Viva_Palmeiras
15-09-2013, 11:00 PM
you're right, I forgot rankin's part in the goal

http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/x7rbwt_hibernian-2-0-celtic-but-nish_sport

and yeah, it came off Fletcher's shoulder and looped over balloch, who was later sent off along with bamba
. I think...
On the first day of Christmas MadVlad sent to me...
...
Four ugly burz
Weird Frenchmen
two Balloch gloves
and a truck for lifting Christian Nade ;)

basehibby
15-09-2013, 11:52 PM
I think if anybody thinks PF will start with 4 attacking minded midfielders is having a laugh:thumbsup:

OJT surely has a chance of getting in there somewhere ;-):aok:

KT an attack minded midfielder? Now you're having a laugh - but if you like Orange Juice in yer Tea then I guess anything goes :greengrin

Seriously - that midfield does look potentially barry though :agree:

Jamie
16-09-2013, 04:51 PM
Looked the biz, hibs looked a lot better, a win on sat may see a huge turning point in our season :cb

carnoustiehibee
16-09-2013, 05:14 PM
Looked a very exciting prospect on Saturday, hopefully he gets more game time against st mirren then let loose v the tinky tims

ancient hibee
16-09-2013, 05:44 PM
He'll get his first start against Stranraer.

SunshineOnLeith
16-09-2013, 10:31 PM
I really don't know who we'll drop when Harris gets back, unless Zoubir somehow flops.

Craig, Thomson and Robertson all cannot be dropped for me, all been very good in the past few games IMO.

We know what Harris can do and if Zoubir shows more of what we saw yesterday then we could have a selection headache and when was the last time we had 5 excellent midfielders?

Harris is still a teenager. If the pressure on him to play, and play well, in every single game can be lifted then that's only a good thing for his long term development in my eyes.

Northernhibee
16-09-2013, 10:50 PM
Once the injury crisis clears up we have Zoubir, Harris, Craig, Cairney and Robertson who can all score goals from midfield - I think we'll give out a few tankings once we're back up to strength (and take a few in the meantime).

hibsbollah
17-09-2013, 08:15 AM
He'll get his first start against Stranraer.

Unless hes showing some weaknesses in his game during training, he should be starting against St Mirren. We have a crisis of lack of width for about two years, noone else is a natural in that position and we've got him in apparently to do that job. If we end up using him JUST as an impact sub or against lower league opposition I'll despair, to be honest.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2013, 08:25 AM
Unless hes showing some weaknesses in his game during training, he should be starting against St Mirren. We have a crisis of lack of width for about two years, noone else is a natural in that position and we've got him in apparently to do that job. If we end up using him JUST as an impact sub or against lower league opposition I'll despair, to be honest.

Not sure we should change a winning team on Saturday, unless injury dictates. I would settle for him getting 20 mins on Saturday and a start v Stranraer

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 08:25 AM
Unless hes showing some weaknesses in his game during training, he should be starting against St Mirren. We have a crisis of lack of width for about two years, noone else is a natural in that position and we've got him in apparently to do that job. If we end up using him JUST as an impact sub or against lower league opposition I'll despair, to be honest.

:agree:

We have not had width pace and a player who can go past a defender and deliver a decent cross since Alan O'Brien, yet we now have one, and folk want him on the bench?

I don't believe what i read here sometimes, why is it ok to put a keeper or centre half straight in but not someone who can unlock a defense?

FFS Fenlon get him straight in, and lets start entertaining the fans again NOW.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2013, 08:31 AM
:agree:

We have not had width pace and a player who can go past a defender and deliver a decent cross since Alan O'Brien, yet we now have one, and folk want him on the bench?

I don't believe what i read here sometimes, why is it ok to put a keeper or centre half straight in but not someone who can unlock a defense?

FFS Fenlon get him straight in, and lets start entertaining the fans again NOW.

Who are you going to drop from Saturday's team then

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 08:32 AM
Who are you going to drop from Saturday's team then

Probably Taiwo, maybe Thomson and push Craig more into the middle.

Heisenberg
17-09-2013, 08:35 AM
I'd have him in on Saturday, probably for Taiwo. It's ok playing four battling centre mids away from home when we're playing on the counter and it does work well. At home we need to be more attacking/adventurous.

Fergus52
17-09-2013, 08:35 AM
I think if anybody thinks PF will start with 4 attacking minded midfielders is having a laugh:thumbsup:

OJT surely has a chance of getting in there somewhere ;-):aok:

No way is Thomson attack minded, and Robertson is kinda in between

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 08:37 AM
I'd have him in on Saturday, probably for Taiwo. It's ok playing four battling centre mids away from home when we're playing on the counter and it does work well. At home we need to be more attacking/adventurous.

Well said, we are playing St Mirren FFS, not Barcelona? Or we can continue to be boring and defensive and drive more people away?

southsider
17-09-2013, 10:14 AM
:agree:

We have not had width pace and a player who can go past a defender and deliver a decent cross since Alan O'Brien, yet we now have one, and folk want him on the bench?

I don't believe what i read here sometimes, why is it ok to put a keeper or centre half straight in but not someone who can unlock a defense?

FFS Fenlon get him straight in, and lets start entertaining the fans again NOW.

Alan O'Brien omg mr timid heart himself. When he come out with gloves on in August i just knew he would be cr*p.

JimBHibees
17-09-2013, 10:28 AM
Well said, we are playing St Mirren FFS, not Barcelona? Or we can continue to be boring and defensive and drive more people away?

Agree we have just had a decent win away and are playing a team in a very poor run of form. Be positive from the start and really get at them and dominate the game. Get Zoubir on wide and running at their defence. Honestly cannot remember the last time we really bossed a game from the start at home to be fair.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 10:35 AM
Id like to see us stick with the same team for saturday and give him a run out later on.

EVENTUALLY
17-09-2013, 10:55 AM
:agree:

We have not had width pace and a player who can go past a defender and deliver a decent cross since Alan O'Brien, yet we now have one, and folk want him on the bench?

I don't believe what i read here sometimes, why is it ok to put a keeper or centre half straight in but not someone who can unlock a defense?

FFS Fenlon get him straight in, and lets start entertaining the fans again NOW.

Spot on :top marks

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 11:13 AM
Id like to see us stick with the same team for saturday and give him a run out later on.

Well, if we want to have fans sticking sharp things in their eyes, or are aiming to send them to sleep, or turn them away from ER altogether - then I totally agree.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2013, 11:16 AM
Well, if we want to have fans sticking sharp things in their eyes, or are aiming to send them to sleep, or turn them away from ER altogether - then I totally agree.

So you were unhappy with the performance on Saturday then

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 11:25 AM
So you were unhappy with the performance on Saturday then

Didn't see it; but by all accounts, we were pretty grim 1st half again?

Things improved 2nd half and from what I gather, we grew in confidence and deserved to win in the end.
BUT, we were away to a good side & probably played the correct tactics.

However, home to St Mirren. Different story. We must attack and try to entertain.
One or Two shots on goal against Ross County (who are losing loads of goals), was disgusting.
More of the same at ER, we will turn folks away, perhaps forever.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 11:27 AM
Well, if we want to have fans sticking sharp things in their eyes, or are aiming to send them to sleep, or turn them away from ER altogether - then I totally agree.

we need another guttsy performance on saturday and the way the team was set out on saturday we achieved that. why change it?

whos to say the lad isnt fully fit? how would anyone on here know whether he is or isnt?

dont get me wrong, if all the reports are right the lad sounds like a luxury we dont have with harris being injured but we certainly are not in a position to be firing him right into the starting eleven, esspecially when the fully fit 11 players we have gave a good account of themselves on saturday and got a good result and most importantly a win.

bingo70
17-09-2013, 11:34 AM
we need another guttsy performance on saturday and the way the team was set out on saturday we achieved that. why change it?

whos to say the lad isnt fully fit? how would anyone on here know whether he is or isnt?

dont get me wrong, if all the reports are right the lad sounds like a luxury we dont have with harris being injured but we certainly are not in a position to be firing him right into the starting eleven, esspecially when the fully fit 11 players we have gave a good account of themselves on saturday and got a good result and most importantly a win.

I don't think we need a gutsy performance, imo we need an entertaining performance.

Fenlon has proven he can put together a boring mid table side, we need him to push on from that though and show us he can produce a team that creates chances, scores goals and entertains. For thay to happen we need players like zoubir playing.

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17-09-2013, 11:34 AM
Surely we should be working towards the place where the squad operates as a squad rather than a first eleven plus reserves?

My thoughts are that games against teams in the relegation zone ( a zone we're still perilously close to) tend to be rather towsy affairs, which is why I'd have Zoubir on the bench, start with the same team as started last week, and plan to bring the lad on either at HT or soon after - once the midfield battle's won. (Make that IF the midfield battle's won.)

I don't buy the idea that because St Mirren are second bottom Hibs are going to be able to boss them around from the start.

My guess is that they'll come out kicking.

And right now, like it or not, points are the priority.

bingo70
17-09-2013, 11:37 AM
Surely we should be working towards the place where the squad operates as a squad rather than a first eleven plus reserves?

My thoughts are that games against teams in the relegation zone ( a zone we're still perilously close to) tend to be rather towsy affairs, which is why I'd have Zoubir on the bench, start with the same team as started last week, and plan to bring the lad on either at HT or soon after - once the midfield battle's won. (Make that IF the midfield battle's won.)

I don't buy the idea that because St Mirren are second bottom Hibs are going to be able to boss them around from the start.

My guess is that they'll come out kicking.

And right now, like it or not, points are the priority.

If points are the priority surely its better to go for three of them by playing attacking players that create chances?

Brightside
17-09-2013, 11:37 AM
we need another guttsy performance on saturday and the way the team was set out on saturday we achieved that. why change it?

whos to say the lad isnt fully fit? how would anyone on here know whether he is or isnt?

dont get me wrong, if all the reports are right the lad sounds like a luxury we dont have with harris being injured but we certainly are not in a position to be firing him right into the starting eleven, esspecially when the fully fit 11 players we have gave a good account of themselves on saturday and got a good result and most importantly a win.

see i dont get this... why do we need gutsy? Its ****** St Mirren. They are are dreadful football team and we should be humping them from the start.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2013, 11:38 AM
Didn't see it; but by all accounts, we were pretty grim 1st half again?

Things improved 2nd half and from what I gather, we grew in confidence and deserved to win in the end.
BUT, we were away to a good side & probably played the correct tactics.

However, home to St Mirren. Different story. We must attack and try to entertain.
One or Two shots on goal against Ross County (who are losing loads of goals), was disgusting.
More of the same at ER, we will turn folks away, perhaps forever.

Wasn't the greatest 1st half, but a game lasts 90 mins.
We had 57% possession
12 shots v Saints 4
5 corners v Saints 1

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 11:44 AM
I don't think we need a gutsy performance, imo we need an entertaining performance.

Fenlon has proven he can put together a boring mid table side, we need him to push on from that though and show us he can produce a team that creates chances, scores goals and entertains. For thay to happen we need players like zoubir playing.

once we get a few wins then thats the time to look for entertainment, right now we need to be concentrating on just getting those wins and if that means slogging it out and getting a result at this stage id be happy with that.

anyone suggesting a cakewalk against st mirren needs to have a word with themselves. they are a decent side and danny lennon is fighting for his job, they will set out to frustrate us on saturday like every team that comes to easter road does.

i think we will get the win but i doubt very much if it will be pretty.

hibsbollah
17-09-2013, 11:45 AM
we need another guttsy performance on saturday and the way the team was set out on saturday we achieved that. why change it?

whos to say the lad isnt fully fit? how would anyone on here know whether he is or isnt?

dont get me wrong, if all the reports are right the lad sounds like a luxury we dont have with harris being injured but we certainly are not in a position to be firing him right into the starting eleven, esspecially when the fully fit 11 players we have gave a good account of themselves on saturday and got a good result and most importantly a win.

See, this is the kind of thinking that does my head in :grr: (no offence to you personally).

What is it about attacking wide players that makes us think of them as a 'luxury?' :dunno: A player who can attack, get assists and score goals (hopefully) is a necessity. You'd never call a centre half or a big centre forward a 'luxury', so why a winger who can beat people?
I think its a Scottish cultural thing. Anything exciting or colourful or likely to make us happy is viewed with suspicion :hilarious

bingo70
17-09-2013, 11:49 AM
See, this is the kind of thinking that does my head in :grr: (no offence to you personally).

What is it about attacking wide players that makes us think of them as a luxury? :dunno: A player who can attack, get assists and score goals (hopefully) is a necessity. You'd never call a centre half or a big centre forward a 'luxury', so why a winger who can beat people?
I think its a Scottish cultural thing. Anything exciting or colourful or likely to make us happy is viewed with suspicion :hilarious

Totally agree, its like the post above I quoted that says just now is all about points not performances. Why would playing a winger that creates things make it less likely we'll get points.

I also think we're in September, playing at home against the poorest team in the league in a season when one team started the season on -15 points, if this weekend isn't the weekend to try and entertain then there never will be one.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 11:54 AM
When would it be safe to play Zoubir from the start? :confused:

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17-09-2013, 11:54 AM
If points are the priority surely its better to go for three of them by playing attacking players that create chances?


Yeah, but going on past experience, there are one or two guys in the St Mirren team who might just decide to break the guy's legs for him.

I would give him another couple of games to acclimatise. We already have one winger (Harris) on the treatment table - why risk two?

Referees rarely send a player off in the opening ten minutes of the game, is what I'm saying. Which is when I would expect Goodwin or his like to try to put Zoubir over the wall and into the stand. But if the lad's good enough and wise enough to avoid that, fine. I'd just give him 45 on Saturday and his first start on Tuesday.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 11:55 AM
See, this is the kind of thinking that does my head in :grr: (no offence to you personally).

What is it about attacking wide players that makes us think of them as a 'luxury?' :dunno: A player who can attack, get assists and score goals (hopefully) is a necessity. You'd never call a centre half or a big centre forward a 'luxury', so why a winger who can beat people?
I think its a Scottish cultural thing. Anything exciting or colourful or likely to make us happy is viewed with suspicion :hilarious

i agree 100%. but we dont know the guys mindframe, fitness or anything. he's had zero to none gametime in the first team so at a stage where we are trying to build some momentum i would stick with the side that ground out a good result on saturday.

lets not forget he's a new lad, in a new country settling in. would it be wise to pitch him straight in, he has a nightmare then he would end up getting pelters from the negative brigade at easter road. i say we take our time with him and bleed him in slowly.

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 11:57 AM
Totally agree, its like the post above I quoted that says just now is all about points not performances. Why would playing a winger that creates things make it less likely we'll get points.

I also think we're in September, playing at home against the poorest team in the league in a season when one team started the season on -15 points, if this weekend isn't the weekend to try and entertain then there never will be one.

yup, a tight 1-0 or 2-1, or an exciting 3 or 4 goals to nil or 1 win,
each are possible, it's all about mentality and positivity.
if Zoubir can cause defences problems, it means they end up worrying about him, doubling up etc, so creating space for other players in our team to exploit. He himself looks capable of goals.
we've needed pace and width for YEARS, now we seem to have it, some fans are opting for a nervy, tight game which we hope to snatch. Jeez.
Did anyone notice the difference in Liverpool once Couthinho went off last night?

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 11:58 AM
i agree 100%. but we dont know the guys mindframe, fitness or anything. he's had zero to none gametime in the first team so at a stage where we are trying to build some momentum i would stick with the side that ground out a good result on saturday.

lets not forget he's a new lad, in a new country settling in. would it be wise to pitch him straight in, he has a nightmare then he would end up getting pelters from the negative brigade at easter road. i say we take our time with him and bleed him in slowly.

Nelson came in when he'd barely learnt anyones name, yet he was straight in the side.

I remember it was me who used to be accused of being negative here? :confused:

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 12:00 PM
Nelson came in when he'd barely learnt anyones name, yet he was straight in the side.

I remember it was me who used to be accused of being negative here? :confused:

I know
and now you've got some mental, crazy idea, of Hibs starting an exciting, attacking player, with pace and natural width.
Nutter !

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:05 PM
Nelson came in when he'd barely learnt anyones name, yet he was straight in the side.

I remember it was me who used to be accused of being negative here? :confused:

Nelson has played in the SPL previously and is an experienced pro.

We are talking about throwing a young lad, not only new to the country but new to the club right in from the start, he will take time to settle. thats hardly being negative.

id love nothing more than to see him start and for us to win 4/5-0, but lets be realistic.

I know it may sound like an extreme comparison but look at the likes of the big money signings in the premiership, Jovetic, Negredo, Soldado, Willian etc etc, are they starting every week? no. because they need time to settle.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:05 PM
I know
and now you've got some mental, crazy idea, of Hibs starting an exciting, attacking player, with pace and natural width.
Nutter !

have you seen him play?

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 12:15 PM
have you seen him play?

Yes.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:19 PM
Yes.

aye ok, and you would quite happily throw him in against st mirren, a game where 3 points is a must. disrupting a side that won away from home the week before for the sake of apparantley getting a wee bit entertainment?

I'd much rather see him come of the bench if we are 1 or 2 up, and i genuinley think thats what will happen. i guess we'll see on saturday.

main thing is we get three points.

Speedway
17-09-2013, 12:24 PM
Well said, we are playing St Mirren FFS, not Barcelona? Or we can continue to be boring and defensive and drive more people away?

Oi! that approach has got us to where we are today. We can't afford to go putting luxury players in the side just because we've got them. We need to keep it tight, battle away and use players who've got a good engine and who can come in and do a job for us. Who do you think we are, ICT?


When would it be safe to play Zoubir from the start? :confused:

1. Sunny Day
2. Perfect pitch
3. Outcome of game meaningless
4. Friendly or Exhibition match ideal
5. When there's no scary tackle-y sort of players on the other team.
6. And only for 30 minutes maximum
7. When there's a 'k' in the month.


Nelson has played in the SPL previously and is an experienced pro.

We are talking about throwing a young lad, not only new to the country but new to the club right in from the start, he will take time to settle. thats hardly being negative.

id love nothing more than to see him start and for us to win 4/5-0, but lets be realistic.

I know it may sound like an extreme comparison but look at the likes of the big money signings in the premiership, Jovetic, Negredo, Soldado, Willian etc etc, are they starting every week? no. because they need time to settle.

The SPL pitches are green right now with markings that are exactly the same as he'll be used to, centre circle, penalty box etc. He'll recognise the other players he's with as they will be wearin the same colour strip as he is. Where he's from, the changing room leads to the tunnel which leads to the pitch so getting on and off the field of play should be do-able.

If he hears 'Oi Zouby man on' someone is coming to tackle him or 'Oi Zouby, gies the ball' then he can look up and pass it.

Could take a while to learn all that. Let's try him again in January.

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17-09-2013, 12:26 PM
yup, a tight 1-0 or 2-1, or an exciting 3 or 4 goals to nil or 1 win,
each are possible, it's all about mentality and positivity.
if Zoubir can cause defences problems, it means they end up worrying about him, doubling up etc, so creating space for other players in our team to exploit. He himself looks capable of goals.
we've needed pace and width for YEARS, now we seem to have it, some fans are opting for a nervy, tight game which we hope to snatch. Jeez.
Did anyone notice the difference in Liverpool once Couthinho went off last night?


How long has Coutinho been at Liverpool? That wasn't his first start - he's had lots of time to acclimatise.

And Coutinho was clattered hard and went off injured. i would rather that didn't happen to Zoubir first time out. The SP isn't exactly world-famous for the strictness with which its referees apply the laws of the game to protect skilful players - unless they play for Celtic, of course.

I would just give the boy another couple of games as sub to let him get up to speed, that's all. Let him get an idea of what he's up against.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:29 PM
Oi! that approach has got us to where we are today. We can't afford to go putting luxury players in the side just because we've got them. We need to keep it tight, battle away and use players who've got a good engine and who can come in and do a job for us. Who do you think we are, ICT?



1. Sunny Day
2. Perfect pitch
3. Outcome of game meaningless
4. Friendly or Exhibition match ideal
5. When there's no scary tackle-y sort of players on the other team.
6. And only for 30 minutes maximum
7. When there's a 'k' in the month.



The SPL pitches are green right now with markings that are exactly the same as he'll be used to, centre circle, penalty box etc. He'll recognise the other players he's with as they will be wearin the same colour strip as he is. Where he's from, the changing room leads to the tunnel which leads to the pitch so getting on and off the field of play should be do-able.

If he hears 'Oi Zouby man on' someone is coming to tackle him or 'Oi Zouby, gies the ball' then he can look up and pass it.

Could take a while to learn all that. Let's try him again in January.

are you for real?

Craig_in_Prague
17-09-2013, 12:30 PM
aye ok, and you would quite happily throw him in against st mirren, a game where 3 points is a must. disrupting a side that won away from home the week before for the sake of apparantley getting a wee bit entertainment?

I'd much rather see him come of the bench if we are 1 or 2 up, and i genuinley think thats what will happen. i guess we'll see on saturday.

main thing is we get three points.

I won't even be at the game, but for those that are, I don't want them bored to death.
For me being a Hibee, it's never been about just winning or losing a game, but seeing some decent, attacking football
As someone said, with Hearts starting minus 15 and with our so called fanstastic squad of players... relegation should be the least of our worries.
so yes, I want some entertainment, which I believe can also lead to 3 points, but with more goals for and the away team leaving Edinburgh hoping they never need to come back.

Billy Whizz
17-09-2013, 12:30 PM
When would it be safe to play Zoubir from the start? :confused:

When the manager decides

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:37 PM
I won't even be at the game, but for those that are, I don't want them bored to death.
For me being a Hibee, it's never been about just winning or losing a game, but seeing some decent, attacking football
As someone said, with Hearts starting minus 15 and with our so called fanstastic squad of players... relegation should be the least of our worries.
so yes, I want some entertainment, which I believe can also lead to 3 points, but with more goals for and the away team leaving Edinburgh hoping they never need to come back.

im sure if you were to ask the majority of the people at the game they would all admit to just being happy with a win at this stage. how thats achieved at this stage i couldnt really care, as long as we win. but i think we have more of a chance if we stick with what we went with on saturday.

Hibbyradge
17-09-2013, 12:41 PM
are you for real?

:LOL:

:tumble:

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 12:44 PM
im sure if you were to ask the majority of the people at the game they would all admit to just being happy with a win at this stage. how thats achieved at this stage i couldnt really care, as long as we win. but i think we have more of a chance if we stick with what we went with on saturday.

And thats the main reason i won't be there on Saturday, its years of boring negative football with the odd scraped win thats bored the tits off me.

You enjoy yourself on Saturday, i will be watching Jeff Stelling.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:48 PM
And thats the main reason i won't be there on Saturday, its years of boring negative football with the odd scraped win thats bored the tits off me.

You enjoy yourself on Saturday, i will be watching Jeff Stelling.

no doubt you'll want a cup final ticket if we get there though...

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 12:57 PM
no doubt you'll want a cup final ticket if we get there though...

And i will get one too. :confused:

bingo70
17-09-2013, 12:59 PM
im sure if you were to ask the majority of the people at the game they would all admit to just being happy with a win at this stage. how thats achieved at this stage i couldnt really care, as long as we win. but i think we have more of a chance if we stick with what we went with on saturday.

'At this stage'? The seasons only just started?

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 12:59 PM
And i will get one too. :confused:

i just hope you get entertained on the day then. :wink:

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:00 PM
'At this stage'? The seasons only just started?

exactly. would you rather we went on a run of losing games at this stage like?

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 01:04 PM
i just hope you get entertained on the day then. :wink:

I wouldn't hold my breath, he'd probably go 4-5-1 with Kevin Thomson wide on the left.

Hibbyradge
17-09-2013, 01:04 PM
And thats the main reason i won't be there on Saturday, its years of boring negative football with the odd scraped win thats bored the tits off me.

You enjoy yourself on Saturday, i will be watching Jeff Stelling.

You're the only person who likes to imagine him naked.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-2etXT2J8

bingo70
17-09-2013, 01:06 PM
exactly. would you rather we went on a run of losing games at this stage like?

No but I'd like us to try and win games rather than trying not to lose them at this stage of the season. I understand there will be certain games to play a bit cagey but at home to st mirren isn't one of them imo.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:06 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath, he'd probably go 4-5-1 with Kevin Thomson wide on the left.

Thomson!?!?!?!?! surely he's not your type of player he's not very fast mind :wink:

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:14 PM
No but I'd like us to try and win games rather than trying not to lose them at this stage of the season. I understand there will be certain games to play a bit cagey but at home to st mirren isn't one of them imo.

i genuinley cant see what gives you that confidence, we havent won at easter road all season. but we won our last game away so lets stick with the same team. absolutely **** all wrong with being cautious and making sure 3 points is the main thing. not handing a debut to someone we "have heard" is a decent player.

bingo70
17-09-2013, 01:24 PM
i genuinley cant see what gives you that confidence, we havent won at easter road all season. but we won our last game away so lets stick with the same team. absolutely **** all wrong with being cautious and making sure 3 points is the main thing. not handing a debut to someone we "have heard" is a decent player.

We've been playing that way at home all the time, that's imo why we haven't won. Time to start having a go and being more attacking.

We wont bring the crowds back your way that's for sure, even if we do start to win the odd game

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:28 PM
We've been playing that way at home all the time, that's imo why we haven't won. Time to start having a go and being more attacking.

We wont bring the crowds back your way that's for sure, even if we do start to win the odd game

i thought on saturday there we had a bit more bite and looked more comfortable going forward. all im saying is i wouldnt be dissapointed if we set out that way on saturday.

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17-09-2013, 01:35 PM
We've been playing that way at home all the time, that's imo why we haven't won. Time to start having a go and being more attacking.

We wont bring the crowds back your way that's for sure, even if we do start to win the odd game



No, I think that winning games - more than the 'odd' game, surely, since we haven't lost in 4? - is exactly what will start bringing the fans back.

Most importantly, winning games at home, whether 1-0, 2-0 or 6-5 will bring people back.

But losing a string of games by the odd goal in 5 or 7 or 9 won't do any good at all, and when we have as bad a run of form at home as Hibs have, it's prudent to be a wee bit cautious.

I would always settle for a nice, steady, uneventful 2-0 win against anybody. Anything more is the icing on the cake.

And if we were doing that every home game, I'd wager we'd soon see the stadium filling up again.

One of the golden rules of football - don't mess with a winning line-up.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:38 PM
No, I think that winning games - more than the 'odd' game, surely, since we haven't lost in 4? - is exactly what will start bringing the fans back.

Most importantly, winning games at home, whether 1-0, 2-0 or 6-5 will bring people back.

But losing a string of games by the odd goal in 5 or 7 or 9 won't do any good at all, and when we have as bad a run of form at home as Hibs have, it's prudent to be a wee bit cautious.

I would always settle for a nice, steady, uneventful 2-0 win against anybody. Anything more is the icing on the cake.

And if we were doing that every home game, I'd wager we'd soon see the stadium filling up again.

One of the golden rules of football - don't mess with a winning line-up.

:agree:

bingo70
17-09-2013, 01:43 PM
No, I think that winning games - more than the 'odd' game, surely, since we haven't lost in 4? - is exactly what will start bringing the fans back.

Most importantly, winning games at home, whether 1-0, 2-0 or 6-5 will bring people back.

But losing a string of games by the odd goal in 5 or 7 or 9 won't do any good at all, and when we have as bad a run of form at home as Hibs have, it's prudent to be a wee bit cautious.

I would always settle for a nice, steady, uneventful 2-0 win against anybody. Anything more is the icing on the cake.

And if we were doing that every home game, I'd wager we'd soon see the stadium filling up again.

One of the golden rules of football - don't mess with a winning line-up.

I guess we just want different things from our football team.

I want to be entertained and to try and win games every week, playing for draws, avoiding defeat and scraping the odd narrow win just doesn't do it for me.

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 01:47 PM
I guess we just want different things from our football team.

I want to be entertained and to try and win games every week, playing for draws, avoiding defeat and scraping the odd narrow win just doesn't do it for me.

no-one is saying thats what they want though mate. all we are saying is at this stage its unlikely we will get entertained, that will come when we get a few wins (in whatever way) and get a bit confidence and stability.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 01:48 PM
No, I think that winning games - more than the 'odd' game, surely, since we haven't lost in 4? - is exactly what will start bringing the fans back.

Most importantly, winning games at home, whether 1-0, 2-0 or 6-5 will bring people back.

But losing a string of games by the odd goal in 5 or 7 or 9 won't do any good at all, and when we have as bad a run of form at home as Hibs have, it's prudent to be a wee bit cautious.

I would always settle for a nice, steady, uneventful 2-0 win against anybody. Anything more is the icing on the cake.

And if we were doing that every home game, I'd wager we'd soon see the stadium filling up again.

One of the golden rules of football - don't mess with a winning line-up.

And here's another, give me something exciting to watch. There has also been many instances of teams changing a winning side and still winning.

Its just an over used cliche that means very little, now i'm not comparing him to messi, but if he missed a game he'd come right back in even if they won the last game, it works even at our level. If Hanlon was injured and came back fit a week later, he'd also go straight back in.

It appears even the supporters have become overly cautious these days, Fenlons tactics have made the support negative too now. :rolleyes:

I mean, who wants excited these days, who wants attacking players in the team who will entertain? :confused:

Jack Hackett
17-09-2013, 01:50 PM
:agree:

We have not had width pace and a player who can go past a defender and deliver a decent cross since Alan yO'Brien, yet we now have one, and folk want him on the bench?

I don't believe what i read here sometimes, why is it ok to put a keeper or centre half straight in but not someone who can unlock a defense?

FFS Fenlon get him straight in, and lets start entertaining the fans again NOW.

100% this

Sick of the 'safety first' attitude

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17-09-2013, 02:01 PM
I guess we just want different things from our football team.

I want to be entertained and to try and win games every week, playing for draws, avoiding defeat and scraping the odd narrow win just doesn't do it for me.


No, I want to see Hibs playing good football, keeping possession, very difficult to score against and consistently scoring goals. But that only comes from hard work and application - Hibs aren't anywhere near the place where we can go out assuming superior to anyone and totally confident we're going to win. Right now we need to earn that.

Playing for draws, avoiding defeat and scraping the odd win is what we've been doing for far too long - long before Pat Fenlon ever arrived at the club, in fact. But in the Liverpool-Swansea game last night, for instance, the team that dictated play and scored goals was the team that held onto the ball and prevented the other team from having it - first-half Liverpool, second-half Swansea. Players like Coutinho and Michu were able to shine only because the players around them were working to win the ball and give it to them in threatening situations.

You can't win games without the ball, and you can't lose them if you keep it.

If Zoubir is strong enough and savvy enough to play in that sort of system, fine - play him. But Liverpool were playing one up last night, as were Swansea. Who do you want to drop to play Zoubir? One of the strikers, both of whom scored last Saturday? Or one of the midfield four who grafted away and provided the ammunition for those strikers? And this in a match which for St Mirren is already a relegation game - which means they'll be out to avoid defeat any way they can?

It worked last week, and I reckon it'd work again - play an unchanged side at the start, and bring Zoubir on in the second half when their full-backs are beginning to tire and one or two of their midfielders and defenders have been carded and need to watch what they're doing.

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17-09-2013, 02:07 PM
And here's another, give me something exciting to watch. There has also been many instances of teams changing a winning side and still winning.

Its just an over used cliche that means very little, now i'm not comparing him to messi, but if he missed a game he'd come right back in even if they won the last game, it works even at our level. If Hanlon was injured and came back fit a week later, he'd also go straight back in.

It appears even the supporters have become overly cautious these days, Fenlons tactics have made the support negative too now. :rolleyes:

I mean, who wants excited these days, who wants attacking players in the team who will entertain? :confused:


BH, you've quoted Alan O'Brien as the last player we had with the pace to go past his full-back and deliver a telling cross.

O'Brien? You expect me to take you seriously on this?


Zoubir better be a whole lot more effective than that waste of space.

And 'not messing with a winning side' isn't a cliché - it's a sound principle.

But then, clichés are usually clichés because they happen to be true.

JimBHibees
17-09-2013, 02:07 PM
And here's another, give me something exciting to watch. There has also been many instances of teams changing a winning side and still winning.

Its just an over used cliche that means very little, now i'm not comparing him to messi, but if he missed a game he'd come right back in even if they won the last game, it works even at our level. If Hanlon was injured and came back fit a week later, he'd also go straight back in.

It appears even the supporters have become overly cautious these days, Fenlons tactics have made the support negative too now. :rolleyes:

I mean, who wants excited these days, who wants attacking players in the team who will entertain? :confused:

I certainly dont, give me the games where the most exciting part of it is to count the seagulls circling the stadium. :greengrin

khib70
17-09-2013, 02:11 PM
And here's another, give me something exciting to watch. There has also been many instances of teams changing a winning side and still winning.

Its just an over used cliche that means very little, now i'm not comparing him to messi, but if he missed a game he'd come right back in even if they won the last game, it works even at our level. If Hanlon was injured and came back fit a week later, he'd also go straight back in.

It appears even the supporters have become overly cautious these days, Fenlons tactics have made the support negative too now. :rolleyes:

I mean, who wants excited these days, who wants attacking players in the team who will entertain? :confused:
Me

Totally agree with all you've said on this BH, and I despair at the "win ugly" brigade rearing their heads again. I remember the grief I got last season for suggesting we might try playing something more resembling football. ("Away and watch Barcelona").

And the stock response of "Pat's making us hard to beat". He wasn't and he isn't. All he did was make us hard to watch, and we still got beat. Sure we had the odd four or five game "unbeaten" run, usually including at least three 0-0 draws. But it was sleep inducing stuff.

This safety first policy has been so successful that we're still waiting for our first home win this year apart from the meaningless one against an already relegated Dundee.

The idea that anyone actually capable of opening up a defence and giving the fans a bit of excitement, and maybe even bringing in more fans, should be kept for special occasions like your granny's good china just beggars belief.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 02:16 PM
BH, you've quoted Alan O'Brien as the last player we had with the pace to go past his full-back and deliver a telling cross.

O'Brien? You expect me to take you seriously on this?


Zoubir better be a whole lot more effective than that waste of space.

And 'not messing with a winning side' isn't a cliché - it's a sound principle.

But then, clichés are usually clichés because they happen to be true.

I did mention O'Brien in jest, but my point still stands in my opinion.

We have ALL been crying out for a winger, a winger who can go past a defender and create.

Now as it appears we have one, we suddenly are frightened he might get injured or not know his teammates names, and now we want to keep things tight and grind out some results.

I genuinely don't believe what i'm reading here?

Andy74
17-09-2013, 02:21 PM
I did mention O'Brien in jest, but my point still stands in my opinion.

We have ALL been crying out for a winger, a winger who can go past a defender and create.

Now as it appears we have one, we suddenly are frightened he might get injured or not know his teammates names, and now we want to keep things tight and grind out some results.

I genuinely don't believe what i'm reading here?

I don't see the problem. I was entertained last week and we won. We were already playing nice attacking stuff before Zoubir came on.

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17-09-2013, 02:23 PM
I did mention O'Brien in jest, but my point still stands in my opinion.

We have ALL been crying out for a winger, a winger who can go past a defender and create.

Now as it appears we have one, we suddenly are frightened he might get injured or not know his teammates names, and now we want to keep things tight and grind out some results.

I genuinely don't believe what i'm reading here?



I am aware you were joking.

FWIW I'm perfectly sure he knows who his team-mates are by now, and I reckon his time on the pitch on Saturday showed great promise.

The only difference between us is that I would be a little more cautious about how we bring him in - that's all.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 02:25 PM
I don't see the problem. I was entertained last week and we won. We were already playing nice attacking stuff before Zoubir came on.

Now i was not at the game, but most folk who were said the first half was on a par with the Ross county game, it was the 2nd half where we played a little better.

Maybe we don't need a winger after all eh Andy? :confused:

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 02:26 PM
I did mention O'Brien in jest, but my point still stands in my opinion.

We have ALL been crying out for a winger, a winger who can go past a defender and create.

Now as it appears we have one, we suddenly are frightened he might get injured or not know his teammates names, and now we want to keep things tight and grind out some results.

I genuinely don't believe what i'm reading here?

Can i cast your attentions towards when one edwin de graaf joined??

a player who could walk into any team with his shwashbuckling performances in training but the minute he stepped onto the pitch he was murder.

lets look at the facts, although zoubir has scored 2 in a closed door game against rangers, no-one has seen him play. no-one knows how he has conducted himself in training. and if he was that special why has he been sent to us on loan?

now, dont get me wrong, i would love to see the lad pitched in and give his all in a barry performance leaving us all drooling for more. and im fully aware we need a player like that.

but for the first time on saturday, allbeit mostly in the second half we looked comfortable on the ball, went forward with conviction, created chances, looked confident in our passing play, fought as a team, came back from a goal down (showing character) STARTED WITH 2 STRIKERS!!!!!!!!!! we have gave pat a hard time all year for being negative, playing with one striker blah blah blah. what more do you want?? and why would you change that? for the sake of sticking a young innexperienced laddie in who we "have heard" is a bit of a player??

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 02:35 PM
Can i cast your attentions towards when one edwin de graaf joined??

a player who could walk into any team with his shwashbuckling performances in training but the minute he stepped onto the pitch he was murder.

lets look at the facts, although zoubir has scored 2 in a closed door game against rangers, no-one has seen him play. no-one knows how he has conducted himself in training. and if he was that special why has he been sent to us on loan?

now, dont get me wrong, i would love to see the lad pitched in and give his all in a barry performance leaving us all drooling for more. and im fully aware we need a player like that.

but for the first time on saturday, allbeit mostly in the second half we looked comfortable on the ball, went forward with conviction, created chances, looked confident in our passing play, fought as a team, came back from a goal down (showing character) STARTED WITH 2 STRIKERS!!!!!!!!!! we have gave pat a hard time all year for being negative, playing with one striker blah blah blah. what more do you want?? and why would you change that? for the sake of sticking a young innexperienced laddie in who we "have heard" is a bit of a player??

Ah the old, one player was crap so this one must be the same? You want more of the same, i dont. lets just leave it at that eh? :rolleyes:

brian6-2
17-09-2013, 02:38 PM
Ah the old, one player was crap so this one must be the same? You want more of the same, i dont. lets just leave it at that eh? :rolleyes:

well not really i could rattle off many we have had like that.

as i said, i would love him to come in and be different class, its just not right after we gave a good account of ourselves on saturday and theres bugger all wrong with that to be honest.

marinello59
17-09-2013, 02:54 PM
I don't see the problem. I was entertained last week and we won. We were already playing nice attacking stuff before Zoubir came on.

It was turgid crap from both sides in the first half. We played better in the second half because we pushed further up the pitch. It was hardly swashbuckling stuff though. Zoubir provided something sadly lacking in the Scottish game, genuine entertainment. OK he only got 10 minutes but I am heartily sick of pragmatic fitba. It drives fans away. Let's see what he can do against the poorest side in a poor league at home.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 03:02 PM
It was turgid crap from both sides in the first half. We played better in the second half because we pushed further up the pitch. It was hardly swashbuckling stuff though. Zoubir provided something sadly lacking in the Scottish game, genuine entertainment. OK he only got 10 minutes but I am heartily sick of pragmatic fitba. It drives fans away. Let's see what he can do against the poorest side in a poor league at home.

We have Stranraer at home midweek, it should be safe to give him 90 minutes in that one, but we are away to the top of the table next saturday, it would be madness to start him there.

We then have another game away at Partick, now they are around us in the league that would be a little risky i suppose, then its Celtic and starting him against them would be suicide.

Aberdeen are next, i'm not sure about that one? Then its Motherwell away, can you see where i'm going with this?

FFS its St ****in Mirren at home, not Real Madrid. :rolleyes:

basehibby
17-09-2013, 03:12 PM
I think we have struggled to break teams down at home this season so would like to see Zoubir get a start against St Midden.

Against St J we were away against a side who would have been looking to come forward and press for the win. On the contrary I'd expect St M to try to smother the game and escape with a point - we need to counter this by getting stuck in and going for the jugular from the start IMO. We may be 4 games unbeaten but the home fans have also been starved of victories and sitting in and hoping for a lucky break is not going to cut it with us.

nribs
17-09-2013, 04:17 PM
My worry would be Zoubir up against Grainger!! Not that I don't think he would rip Grainger a new one. My worry would be what would happen the one time Grainger got close to him.

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 04:24 PM
My worry would be Zoubir up against Grainger!! Not that I don't think he would rip Grainger a new one. My worry would be what would happen the one time Grainger got close to him.

My worry is we as a support are getting as negative as the dirge we have been watching for so long?

Let them worry about us, let them adapt to a player they won't know much about, and lets be positive in our play for a change.

Every team have a player who likes a tackle, or can hurt a player at any given moment, if we dont play a player because we are are frightened he might be targeted, then they are winning part of the battle already.

We are at home to St Mirren, the initiative is on us to attack lets take the game to them.

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17-09-2013, 04:30 PM
We have Stranraer at home midweek, it should be safe to give him 90 minutes in that one, but we are away to the top of the table next saturday, it would be madness to start him there.

We then have another game away at Partick, now they are around us in the league that would be a little risky i suppose, then its Celtic and starting him against them would be suicide.

Aberdeen are next, i'm not sure about that one? Then its Motherwell away, can you see where i'm going with this?

FFS its St ****in Mirren at home, not Real Madrid. :rolleyes:


Yup - you're being silly.

No one's suggesting that we don't play him; no one's suggesting that he won't be an asset to the side in an attacking role.

But when the team's a winning team, and when both the strikers scored last time out, and the front six are showing signs of beginning to gel, it's not unreasonable to suggest that for once we don't mess around with a winning line-up, but do what we did at Perth and bring him on second half, but a bit earlier this time, and depending on how he goes give him a start in midweek in the Cup-tie.

No one's suggesting wrapping him in cotton-wool for the rest of the season.

Viva_Palmeiras
17-09-2013, 04:31 PM
Zoubir yet Zoufar

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17-09-2013, 04:34 PM
Zoubir yet Zoufar



EWWWW!

I don't wish to know that.

Kindly leave the stage. :rolleyes:

blackpoolhibs
17-09-2013, 04:42 PM
Yup - you're being silly.

No one's suggesting that we don't play him; no one's suggesting that he won't be an asset to the side in an attacking role.

But when the team's a winning team, and when both the strikers scored last time out, and the front six are showing signs of beginning to gel, it's not unreasonable to suggest that for once we don't mess around with a winning line-up, but do what we did at Perth and bring him on second half, but a bit earlier this time, and depending on how he goes give him a start in midweek in the Cup-tie.

No one's suggesting wrapping him in cotton-wool for the rest of the season.

That made me laugh. :greengrin

I know we won last week, and both strikers scored. Its just madness though in my opinion to think we suddenly don't need any width or creativity one week after we were shouting from the rooftops for it, even after a win?

He's a player who by all accounts goes past his player with ease, god forbid wanting someone like that in from the start?

I don't want us to play boring football, and thats what we will get without him imo. I want us to take the game to the opposition from the start, put teams on the back foot, attack.

I'm bored rigid to the point i can't be bloody bothered going, give me an excuse to get my fat arse on the train to easter road Pat.

davhibby
17-09-2013, 05:50 PM
I wouldn't change the starting team cause if we play as we did second half on Saturday, we'll create plenty of chances and score goals. Thought we played nice passing attack minded football but also defended well as a unit, which IMO would see us get a few goals and a good win. No need to change, I'd give Zouby at least 30 mins though

nonshinyfinish
17-09-2013, 06:45 PM
Nelson came in when he'd barely learnt anyones name, yet he was straight in the side.

I remember it was me who used to be accused of being negative here? :confused:

Changed times. Others have pushed on to new levels of negativity, and you've stood still. Not good enough. Or not bad enough. Beats me.

My_Wife_Camille
21-09-2013, 04:18 PM
I'm convinced that Abdellah Zoubir is the finest player to ever pull on the green and white

TheFamous1875
21-09-2013, 04:24 PM
I'm convinced that Abdellah Zoubir is the finest player to ever pull on the green and white

I was gobsmacked at that 10 minutes of skill and composure - the amount of chances he created! He'll rip squads to **** in the Scots Prem if he carries on, not felt that way about a player since Latapy!


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S.sct
21-09-2013, 04:24 PM
I'm convinced that Abdellah Zoubir is the finest player to ever pull on the green and white

Hope your'e only 5 years of age then. Thought Sammy Stanton looked better when he came on.

TheFamous1875
21-09-2013, 04:32 PM
Hope your'e only 5 years of age then. Thought Sammy Stanton looked better when he came on.

I was very impressed with Stanton when he came on too! It's like I said on some other thread, blooding youngsters in comfortable situations is the best way! Thrilled today with our club.


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hibsbollah
21-09-2013, 04:37 PM
Man crush. So sue me. :sauzee:
That double movement before he passed the ball out wide left was pure sorcery.

Andy74
21-09-2013, 04:37 PM
Hope your'e only 5 years of age then. Thought Sammy Stanton looked better when he came on.

Eh , naw.

hibeemikey21
21-09-2013, 04:38 PM
I was gobsmacked at that 10 minutes of skill and composure - the amount of chances he created! He'll rip squads to **** in the Scots Prem if he carries on, not felt that way about a player since Latapy!


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Early days yet, but I hope it continues. You do wonder, though, why:

a) A team (who aren't exactly world beaters) have let him go out on loan

b) Fenlon is easing him in/using him sparingly at present (maybe fitness-related though)

God Petrie
21-09-2013, 04:39 PM
I think we should have a signing policy of only considering players with Z in their surname.

NadeAteMyLunch!
21-09-2013, 04:39 PM
Brilliant to watch the last 10 mins. More excitement than I've seen in 6 months at ER!

hibee_girl
21-09-2013, 04:39 PM
It's maybe a bit silly to get carried away after 2 10 minutes appearances but he does look very special :agree:

neil7908
21-09-2013, 04:42 PM
The kind of player we've been crying out for. Has pace, flair and directness. If we can get him playing as well over 90 minutes as he has in his time on the pitch so far and a fit Harris on the other wing we'll have a group of players that can really hurt teams with Robertson and Craig also beginning to find their feet.

Heisenberg
21-09-2013, 04:42 PM
He strides past players with ease. Looked good when he came on.

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21-09-2013, 04:47 PM
I think we should have a signing policy of only considering players with Z in their surname.


Indeed. Like Benny Brazil? :wink:

Viva_Palmeiras
21-09-2013, 04:49 PM
Was it an either / or with Carson... Good so see Zouby looks like a decent loan star.

hfc rd
21-09-2013, 04:51 PM
Only got 10 mins but in those 10 mins, he looked brilliant. Striding past players with great trickery. Every time he had the ball, my whole section were standing up. Looks a great signing.

ano hibby
21-09-2013, 04:59 PM
Lacking in pace & passed up a clear shooting chance on his right foot.


Nah but seriously very promising & interesting he played up front as well as wide, brings a range of options.

Maybe see him start v Stranrear...as well as Mcpake..?

DaveF
21-09-2013, 05:08 PM
Noticed a small kid in one of those jester hats was asking for his autograph as Zoubir was warming up. He didn't sign at at the time but at the final whistle I could see him look over to where the kid was and he wanted to run over to find the kid but was in two minds. Maybury noticed his dilemma and intimated that fans would go round to the main entrance so hopefully the young fan did just that.

Not a big thing but shows that the lad wants to impress and build a bond with the fans. And I hope the young fan knows that he wasn't intentionally blanking him.

NorthNorfolkHFC
21-09-2013, 05:15 PM
Lacking in pace & passed up a clear shooting chance on his right foot.


Nah but seriously very promising & interesting he played up front as well as wide, brings a range of options.

Maybe see him start v Stranrear...as well as Mcpake..?

Reckon McGivern, mcpake and zoubir will start. He'll prob even give that huddy vine a start.


"Kommen sie bitte und listen to Kraftwerk!"

21.05.2016
21-09-2013, 05:16 PM
Obviously we have only seen 10 mins or so of this guy so bit early to jump to conclusions and get carried away but I think he looks like a cracking wee player. Pace, skill and desire to take on defenders!

stoneyburn hibs
21-09-2013, 05:23 PM
Looks the part, can't wait to see more of him.

Mon Dieu4
21-09-2013, 05:28 PM
Man crush. So sue me. :sauzee:
That double movement before he passed the ball out wide left was pure sorcery.

It should be regulation that we have to have a French man in our team, Je t'aime

MrRobot
21-09-2013, 06:07 PM
I think we should have a signing policy of only considering players with Z in their surname.

Zarabi

SRHibs
21-09-2013, 06:08 PM
What a first impression he made. The first time in an age that you've felt the excitement in the crowd when one of our players gets on the ball. Here's hoping there's a lot more to come.

Bad Habits
21-09-2013, 06:19 PM
Early days yet, but I hope it continues. You do wonder, though, why:

a) A team (who aren't exactly world beaters) have let him go out on loan

b) Fenlon is easing him in/using him sparingly at present (maybe fitness-related though)

Maybe its a loan with a possible buy at the end (like Andy Carroll @ West ham) or its to put him in a more 'visible' league to make more money on him

Hibs Class
21-09-2013, 06:21 PM
According to the BBC report he was booked - I never noticed that happening. Was he, and if so for what?

HibbiesandtheBaddies
21-09-2013, 06:25 PM
That made me laugh. :greengrin

I know we won last week, and both strikers scored. Its just madness though in my opinion to think we suddenly don't need any width or creativity one week after we were shouting from the rooftops for it, even after a win?

He's a player who by all accounts goes past his player with ease, god forbid wanting someone like that in from the start?

I don't want us to play boring football, and thats what we will get without him imo. I want us to take the game to the opposition from the start, put teams on the back foot, attack.

I'm bored rigid to the point i can't be bloody bothered going, give me an excuse to get my fat arse on the train to easter road Pat.


:agree:

Cant understand wee Pat at all. For me Robertson wasn't offering anything in the game today and after we scored the 2nd, for me, was the perfect time to get Zoubir on for Robertson to roast that fandan Grainger while leaving Heff and Collins on longer together.

Anyway, Zoubir #baller! :greengrin

GreenOnions
21-09-2013, 06:35 PM
I was very impressed with Stanton when he came on too! It's like I said on some other thread, blooding youngsters in comfortable situations is the best way! Thrilled today with our club.



I have been really impressed with Stanton every time I've seen him - today was no different.

I really like the thought of Stanton, Harris and Zoubir all being options for us as the season progresses. More good reasons to attend Easter Road :agree:

Bad Habits
21-09-2013, 06:35 PM
Early days yet, but I hope it continues. You do wonder, though, why:

a) A team (who aren't exactly world beaters) have let him go out on loan

b) Fenlon is easing him in/using him sparingly at present (maybe fitness-related though)

Maybe its a loan with a possible buy at the end (like Andy Carroll @ West ham) or its to put him in a more 'visible' league to make more money on him

GloryGlory
21-09-2013, 06:38 PM
I think we should have a signing policy of only considering players with Z in their surname.

Zambernardi? The Algerian, Zarabi, I think his name was? :greengrin

Irish_Steve
21-09-2013, 06:41 PM
Zoubir picked up a booking according to the BBC but I dont remember seeing it - any idea what it was for?

Seveno
21-09-2013, 06:42 PM
At last a player that gets you on the edge of your seat. The whole crowd was willing the team to give the ball to him.

Sam Stanton was excellent too with his blend of skill and determination.

FranckSuzy
21-09-2013, 06:48 PM
:agree:

Cant understand wee Pat at all. For me Robertson wasn't offering anything in the game today and after we scored the 2nd, for me, was the perfect time to get Zoubir on for Robertson to roast that fandan Grainger while leaving Heff and Collins on longer together.

Anyway, Zoubir #baller! :greengrin

It's a funny old game right enough as IMHO Robertson could have also been MOM. Thought he had a great game :agree:

Heisenberg
21-09-2013, 06:50 PM
Robertson was good today I thought. Much better than last season and played a part in the second goal.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
21-09-2013, 06:51 PM
It's a funny old game right enough as IMHO Robertson could have also been MOM. Thought he had a great game :agree:

Fair play, game of opinions :greengrin

tamig
21-09-2013, 06:54 PM
It's a funny old game right enough as IMHO Robertson could have also been MOM. Thought he had a great game :agree:

Was just about to say the same. His set up for Maybury to put the ball over for the secong goal was brilliant. He was outstanding today.

21.05.2016
21-09-2013, 06:57 PM
Robertson was good today I thought. Much better than last season and played a part in the second goal.

I agree, I thought Robertson had a great game today, wouldn't have complained if he had got MOTD to be honest.

Onion
21-09-2013, 07:03 PM
Robertson was good today I thought. Much better than last season and played a part in the second goal.

:agree: IMHO the most improved player from last season by a mile. Looks like the player we all thought we bought last season and very excited about what he can do for this Hibs team.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
21-09-2013, 07:08 PM
What game wis ah watchin! :greengrin

NadeAteMyLunch!
21-09-2013, 07:09 PM
Haha I also thought Robertson had a great game. Everyone did.

HibeeSince85
21-09-2013, 07:11 PM
Hope your'e only 5 years of age then. Thought Sammy Stanton looked better when he came on.

No. Just no!

matty_f
21-09-2013, 07:22 PM
Robertson had a really good game, imho. He's like a different player from last season.

Zoubir was good as well. Look forward to watching more from him. :agree:

Borderhibbie76
21-09-2013, 07:34 PM
Fair play, game of opinions :greengrin

Strange comment mate. ..Robertson has been outstanding the last 2 weeks!!

hfc rd
21-09-2013, 07:47 PM
I think Robertson is like the Claros of this season. Someone who got off to a bad start & who had a dismal performance at Hampden just like our Jorge. But so far this season, he's been absolutely excellent and really shut up his critics from last season including me :)

Allan45
21-09-2013, 08:30 PM
I was there today with my boy, it was much better than the Ross County game by a mile.
Hibs played well today IMO. I hate at times we pass back quite a lot, but we were sharper, a few bad passes but 90% of the time passing was good.
heffs goal,was good with the play before it. Yeah, top 4 would be great. We have a tough match against ICT away next week, but feel we could get a draw there. Then Partick away, with 3 points. That will do nicely.
All the players were good. Zouibir looks very special indeed.
I know this is a winge, I could not care less about per threads in hearts. I'm only concerned that Hibs have a good season, win more games at home than last year, and get at least to 4th by the end of the season.
well done to all at ER today. :flag:

Hedlund12
21-09-2013, 08:39 PM
According to the BBC report he was booked - I never noticed that happening. Was he, and if so for what?


Zoubir picked up a booking according to the BBC but I dont remember seeing it - any idea what it was for?

Can anyone else answer the above two posts - I saw the yellow being shown to Zoubir but didn't see what it was for either.....can anyone else update?

Up The Bracket
21-09-2013, 08:51 PM
Robertson was very good today, albeit better last week, always said he'd come good and I'm delighted for him!

rcarter1
21-09-2013, 09:01 PM
Robertson was very good today, albeit better last week, always said he'd come good and I'm delighted for him!

I like Robertson, and think he came on to a decent game, but seemed to start slowly. Love how he is always looking for goal.