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wookie70
02-09-2013, 01:55 PM
I read with horror that Gareth Bale was to receive £300k a week to play football. Surely at some point football fans are going to stand up and come out against these ridiculous salaries and also transfer fees. The money that pays and buys players starts off in our pocket. Every time the salaries go up or Transfer records are broken it comes pretty much straight out of our pockets. Some will come from increased sales of advertisers goods on Sports channels, some from Sky and other TV subscriptions and also from Season Tickets. At a time when most of us are struggling to make ends meet it seems incomprehensible that players are being paid so much. Bale earns more a week than Obama is paid a year. If he gets a twisted ankle and is out for a month his wages for that time will be an average wage for a lifetime of work for most folk.

I don't blame footballers but this love of celebrity and paying people ludicrous sums to ply their trade just seems ridiculous to me. Footballers have a skill and are at the top of their profession. It takes them years to learn their trade. I have no issue with them being paid Surgeons wages but not Surgeons Salaries on a Weekly basis and earning the same in a morning as most of us do a year.

Maybe a maximum wage is called for to bring things back into perspective. It won't suit the Big Clubs so Uefa and Fifa would never agree.

Peevemor
02-09-2013, 01:59 PM
I read with horror that Gareth Bale was to receive £300k a week to play football. Surely at some point football fans are going to stand up and come out against these ridiculous salaries and also transfer fees. The money that pays and buys players starts off in our pocket. Every time the salaries go up or Transfer records are broken it comes pretty much straight out of our pockets. Some will come from increased sales of advertisers goods on Sports channels, some from Sky and other TV subscriptions and also from Season Tickets. At a time when most of us are struggling to make ends meet it seems incomprehensible that players are being paid so much. Bale earns more a week than Obama is paid a year. If he gets a twisted ankle and is out for a month his wages for that time will be an average wage for a lifetime of work for most folk.

I don't blame footballers but this love of celebrity and paying people ludicrous sums to ply their trade just seems ridiculous to me. Footballers have a skill and are at the top of their profession. It takes them years to learn their trade. I have no issue with them being paid Surgeons wages but not Surgeons Salaries on a Weekly basis and earning the same in a morning as most of us do a year.

Maybe a maximum wage is called for to bring things back into perspective. It won't suit the Big Clubs so Uefa and Fifa would never agree.

I couldn't agree more.

Jack
02-09-2013, 02:00 PM
Best not look at the rest of the entertainment industry, or even the joker that reads the news to you off a script or the weather celebrity.

dangermouse
02-09-2013, 02:06 PM
Best not look at the rest of the entertainment industry, or even the joker that reads the news to you off a script or the weather celebrity.

Sean Batty gets £300,000 a week :shocked:

Unseen work
02-09-2013, 02:07 PM
Agree completely. Unfortunately that's just where football is at, everyone supports and loves a team and wants to wear the colours with pride every week and turn up to watch the team and hope they achieve something

LeithBoozy
02-09-2013, 02:15 PM
Funny enough, just what my wife said last night, when I mentioned it to her, he gets more in a week than I make in a lifetime. :rolleyes:

Sylar
02-09-2013, 02:17 PM
Best not look at the rest of the entertainment industry, or even the joker that reads the news to you off a script or the weather celebrity.

Find me a news reader or weather presenter who earns £300k a week and I'll buy you a pint :aok:

Wembley67
02-09-2013, 02:23 PM
Find me a news reader or weather presenter who earns £300k a week and I'll buy you a pint :aok:

Matt Lauer for NBC...$25,000,000 a year (thanks google). You can keep your pint though :greengrin

Ross4356
02-09-2013, 02:25 PM
Posts like this come up every time a record is broken. They are boring and people need to get over it. Salaries are going to go up and there will be another post like this when the next players gets 350k a week

Wembley67
02-09-2013, 02:27 PM
Posts like this come up every time a record is broken. They are boring and people need to get over it. Salaries are going to go up and there will be another post like this when the next players gets 350k a week

Still an interesting topic for discussion do you not think?

Obviously not.

Leithenhibby
02-09-2013, 02:35 PM
Posts like this come up every time a record is broken. They are boring and people need to get over it. Salaries are going to go up and there will be another post like this when the next players gets 350k a week

Sorry, but I don't agree :wink:

If, and it's a big if, TV money was pulled for what ever reason, you can bet your bottom dollar that most football clubs would end up like the banks!.. We all know what happened to them.

Morally, it's wrong on so many fronts. For me, I think football was so much better for the right reasons when Pat Stanton Jock Stein and many other greats ......... (the list is endless) plied their trade with such craftsmanship :agree: And just for a living and a wage. Plus the love for the game.

Stringer
02-09-2013, 03:12 PM
Spanish tax is a lot thou. They will take 180,000 from bale

Jones28
02-09-2013, 03:14 PM
Charlie Sheen was being paid $1.2million per episode of "2 and a half men"

Every aspect of the entertainment industry pays outrageously.

It can all go and do one as far as I'm concerned.

Hibs Giant
02-09-2013, 03:14 PM
It's more money than he'll likely know what to do with. It'll probably be spent gold plating his taps and on countless greedy slags. I can't help thinking there's a better use of resources, while innumerable people work themselves to death trying to feed their families.

CyberSauzee
02-09-2013, 03:47 PM
It's more money than he'll likely know what to do with. It'll probably be spent gold plating his taps and on countless greedy slags. I can't help thinking there's a better use of resources, while innumerable people work themselves to death trying to feed their families.

When getting paid at 49.6 pence per second, you can easily go for a 10 minute dump, wipe your arse with a few tenners, and you've still made the best part of £200+ without having to strain yourself too much. Easy money!

Ritchie
02-09-2013, 03:50 PM
www.whatbaleearns.co.uk :greengrin

LioNeilMessi
02-09-2013, 04:30 PM
Spanish tax is a lot thou. They will take 180,000 from bale

They have a sport stars tax which is closer to 20% I've heard. Although that could of changed by now.

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wookie70
02-09-2013, 04:39 PM
Posts like this come up every time a record is broken. They are boring and people need to get over it. Salaries are going to go up and there will be another post like this when the next players gets 350k a week

To be honest unfairness in society is neither boring or something I would like to get over. The problem is some fans are quite happy to live in an I'm all right Jack world.

The entertainment industry etc are equally at fault but this is a football forum so thought I best concentrate on that.

I am 45 so came to supporting Hibs at a time where money was starting to come more and more into the game. For what its worth I think money and in particular TV money seems to reward everything most fans hate and makes the things we treasure disappear. Loyalty, local kids being brought through the ranks and becoming heros, kick off times and connection with the players. All of these things have practically disappeared to a greater or lesser amount. Cheating, corruption and advantages for the favoured big teams are growing each year.

It may be boring to some and I appreciate this is a problem accross society not just a football one but it really gets on my goat

Beefster
02-09-2013, 04:40 PM
I think it's fair enough to pay top footballers big wages. The likes of Messi, Ronaldo and Bale will earn their clubs way more in a year than they'll earn in a salary. Shirt sales, sponsorships, TV revenue etc etc is massive for these clubs worldwide.

Top footballers are just like pop stars and movie stars these days.

wookie70
02-09-2013, 05:03 PM
they may well earn their clubs money but yet again that comes from me. My main issue is that the fan is always the loser in this. You could argue they get to see the best players in the world but they could still do that if money in football was a tenth of what it is now. A season ticket and Sky subscription could also come down 90 percent. It is the old socialist in me but I hatr seeing the rich get richer on the back of the less well off. The next time anyone complains about thr price of anything football related think where that money goes.

Ross4356
02-09-2013, 05:10 PM
To be honest unfairness in society is neither boring or something I would like to get over. The problem is some fans are quite happy to live in an I'm all right Jack world.

The entertainment industry etc are equally at fault but this is a football forum so thought I best concentrate on that.

I am 45 so came to supporting Hibs at a time where money was starting to come more and more into the game. For what its worth I think money and in particular TV money seems to reward everything most fans hate and makes the things we treasure disappear. Loyalty, local kids being brought through the ranks and becoming heros, kick off times and connection with the players. All of these things have practically disappeared to a greater or lesser amount. Cheating, corruption and advantages for the favoured big teams are growing each year.

It may be boring to some and I appreciate this is a problem accross society not just a football one but it really gets on my goat

Not everyone has socialist ideals and are happy with the best player being paid what is on offer. In regards to rest of the stuff you mentioned, you're living in the past mate. Cheating & corruption is not prevalent in English and Scottish football to my knowledge either

Haymaker
02-09-2013, 05:23 PM
They have a sport stars tax which is closer to 20% I've heard. Although that could of changed by now.

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Think that changed recently.

Still not sure Bale is worth 300k a week, that sort of cash for Messi or Ronaldo maybe. I dont see Bale getting 200 goals at the same pace as Ronaldo!

wookie70
02-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Not everyone has socialist ideals and are happy with the best player being paid what is on offer. In regards to rest of the stuff you mentioned, you're living in the past mate. Cheating & corruption is not prevalent in English and Scottish football to my knowledge either

The past was a better place in many ways. History does have a habit of repeating itself or at least thats what Im hoping for. I appreciate there is an alternative view too I can never understand it though.

Players diving would be an example of cheating for me. Seeded cup draws to suit big teams. Transfer bans that aren't. Rascism not being punished properly. Media reporting of events. 20 percent tax rate for sportsmen. Plenty cheating and corruption from where I am and money imo has a part to play.

big gogs
02-09-2013, 05:31 PM
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strange ,when a footballer earns a massive transfer fee,or someone wins millions on the lottery,it always brings out the worst in the people ..cap the wages,put a limit on the lottery,why,how many buy a lottery ticket to win millions i do,gareth bale moved for a huge fee ,its not his fault his new club wants to pay him 3 hundred thousand a week,be honest now how many of you would knock it back

wookie70
02-09-2013, 06:13 PM
I'm not blaming Bale and his wages dwarf that of most lottery millionaires. Strange how wanting a fairer share for all is seen as bring out the worst. One of the reasons I love Hibs is their history as being generous and socially responsible. If it wasnt in my blood I would still probably have chosen Hibs to support. My worst fears have been confirmed that football will continue in the same vain. To be fair the Union man in me would encourage a majority view. I would warn though that you should always be carefulvwhat you wish for. We may not be too far away from the Big Clubs sucking everything out of football

big gogs
02-09-2013, 06:35 PM
big clubs have always sucked the life out of football.rangers and celtic have done it to hibs for years,its annoying but money talks louder than loyalty.i wanted brown and thomson to stay,but history tells a different story.

ancient hibee
02-09-2013, 06:56 PM
It's nothing new-just more publicity.The Famous Five were regularly pleased to have difficulty putting their boots on because they were stuffed with fivers(courtesy of undeclared gate receipts).Gordon Smith came out of training one day to find a new Porsche sports car waiting for him.There was no maximum wage in Scottish football so good players were quite happy to stay here rather than go to England and have the maximum wage come into play and be used as an excuse by club management.

Eyrie
02-09-2013, 06:57 PM
Playing Devil's advocate to an extent, but why shouldn't an employee like Bale get a cut of the money his employer Real Madrid makes?

wookie70
02-09-2013, 07:10 PM
He should get a cut but it is more of the scale of things. It just seems ridiculous to me in a country with mass unemployment that someone can earn so much for playing sport. If Real are making so much money then they should maybe think about rewarding the fans with reduced prices. Players wages are completely out of control and it wont take much for football to implode. To me it is a similar situation to the banks with the market being overheated for the benifit of the few at the top. When it goes pop you can bet your bottom dollar, if you still have one left, we the fans will be expected to stump up.

Are Real Madrid a proper company running at a profit without state assistance. I'm not that well versed in Spanish Fotball but know there is quite alot of state money that goes to clubs over there.

Onceinawhile
02-09-2013, 07:26 PM
It's not too bad, especially when you consider someone like johnny drop earns 30 million for 6 months acting in a turd f ilm like the lone ranger.

wookie70
02-09-2013, 07:41 PM
A piece of an article from When Saturday Comes 30 July 2013 - "Forcing this new collective television rights deal could help prevent Spanish football "killing itself" in the years to come, as leading football economist José Maria Gay has predicted. La Liga is the only league which can rival the Premier League in terms of international prestige, and the value of the television rights for the division would be significant, proving a major financial boost for the other 18 teams in the league. That will help tackle the toxic debt problem – €670m is owed by Spanish clubs to the taxman and the government is trying to reduce the total debt held by the country's clubs from €4bn today to €3bn by 2016."

Tax payers paying for ridiculous wages as clubs spending goes out of control. That rings a bell somewhere. That will be the man on the street footing the bill again. That man or woman may have no interest in football

Argylehibby
02-09-2013, 10:00 PM
He should get a cut but it is more of the scale of things. It just seems ridiculous to me in a country with mass unemployment that someone can earn so much for playing sport. If Real are making so much money then they should maybe think about rewarding the fans with reduced prices. Players wages are completely out of control and it wont take much for football to implode. To me it is a similar situation to the banks with the market being overheated for the benifit of the few at the top. When it goes pop you can bet your bottom dollar, if you still have one left, we the fans will be expected to stump up.
Are Real Madrid a proper company running at a profit without state assistance. I'm not that well versed in Spanish Fotball but know there is quite alot of state money that goes to clubs over there.

:agree: Just look across the city. That's the small scale version but when the bigger clubs hit the rocks the fans wont have the cash to plough in to save them.

Glory Lurker
02-09-2013, 10:16 PM
"While American businessmen snap up Van Goghs for the price of a hospital wing".

How we nodded grimly in agreement with Del Amitri then. It's now incredibly quaint when you consider the money splashed about in the entertainment industry. The world's nuts.

Holmesdale Hibs
03-09-2013, 06:55 AM
300k per week seems excessive and I'd also question whether Bale is worth it. He probably would have signed for less as welll given no other team would pay him those kind of wages.

In general, I don't have a problem with top footballers being paid a lot of money and I'd rather them than some pop idol boy band.

Out of interest, does anyone at ER is earning close to 300k per year? Maybe Sauzee back in the day?