Zoubir Loan Deal Agreed

[YehButNoBut]

Hibs have agreed terms with French winger Abdellah Zoubir.

Welcome to Hibs Abdellah

http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20130830/zoubir-loan-deal-agreed_2262950_3442411

[Stevie Reid]

Doesn't sound like he'll be involved tomorrow, but looking forward to seeing him in action as soon as possible.

[Heisenberg]

Hibernian FC‏@HibernianFCClub5m (http://www.hibs.net/HibernianFCClub/status/373407642833543168)The wide midfielder impressed manager Pat Fenlon during a week-long trial and hopefully will be available for tomorrow's match #hibees (http://www.hibs.net/search?q=%23hibees&src=hash)

[Billychaotic182]

Good news Carsom next please

[HFC07]

Good news Carsom next please

I agree, absolutly great news and if Carson was to come as well that would be great. :thumbsup:

[lord bunberry]

Great news and good communication from the club for once

[3pm]

Nobody can say Fenlon hasn't been backed anyway!

[Hibee87]

6ft tall as well so a another decent bit of hight in the midfield :thumbsup:

[brydekirk]

Hope he's zoubir fast

[The Sea-gull]

Good that a player has been signed in an area we are lacking. I'll say one thing for Pat, he is usually good at identifying where we need strengthening if a little slow to do it; see how long he left us lacking in numbers at the back and the process for finding more creative, attack minded players has been a bit of a saga this summer.

No idea what he is like and obviously hope the guy is good and does a turn for us but excuse my lack of excitement for a 21 year old loan signing at the back end of the transfer window from second division French football. That send, maybe French Ligue 2 is a comparable or even higher standard to the SPL.

Looking to him to deliver the creativity, width and pace we are all craving but we'll all be behind him to do it for us.

[Pat 0-7]

Good news, bienvenue à Le Cabbage Zouby !!!!! :thumbsup:

[Hibby70]

Good news, bienvenue à Le Cabbage Zouby !!!!! :thumbsup:

Zouby - like it

[Spike Mandela]

IF he's half as good as Boozy and a tenth as good as Le God then he'll be ok.:cb

[brydekirk]

Some good videos on you tube.

[Time For Heroes]

Welcome to the mad house! :D

[CallumLaidlaw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHFksrT2Sc&sns=em

[Hibee87]

Good news Carsom next please

im sure hearts will hijack the move for carson with a 8k a week wage..........

[Craig_in_Prague]

Is he a lefty or righty? (so we know where Pat will play him, i.e. the opposite side)

[hfc rd]

im sure hearts will hijack the move for carson with a 8k a week wage..........



Carson isn't exactly a World Cup superstar though that Vlad promised those yams.

[Bronson]

Really pleased we have got someone in and he looks pretty tricky in that video. However I must admit I was hoping it would be a permanent deal rather than a loan, kind of feel that loans have hindered us in the past (obviously not all, griffiths, claros and mcgivern were great but the likes of soares, doherty, francomb, done etc... you know the type). I really want to see us build a squad that will stick and not chop and change every season.

That being said, if he does the business for us I won't care! I doubt we'd have the option to sign him if he was a success, would we?:hmmm:

[Sweet Left Peg]

Is he a lefty or righty? (so we know where Pat will play him, i.e. the opposite side)

Never mind that, is he an innie or an outie? Outie = not Hibs Class...

[hibs0666]

Is he a lefty or righty? (so we know where Pat will play him, i.e. the opposite side)

Lots of managers play players on their wrong side so no idea why you're having a pop at Fenlon.

[TheFamous1875]

This lad'd probably be up for signing on, as he could get to England from here/Celtic :/

Looks a good player, really pleased with this!


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[Andy74]

Some good videos on you tube.

Yeah, some, but not enough porn for my liking.

[Liberal Hibby]

Is he a lefty or righty? (so we know where Pat will play him, i.e. the opposite side)

Looks like he's a left footed right winger and a right footed left winger. So central defence I assume :wink:

[hfc rd]

Really pleased we have got someone in and he looks pretty tricky in that video. However I must admit I was hoping it would be a permanent deal rather than a loan, kind of feel that loans have hindered us in the past (obviously not all, griffiths, claros and mcgivern were great but the likes of soares, doherty, francomb, done etc... you know the type). I really want to see us build a squad that will stick and not chop and change every season.

That being said, if he does the business for us I won't care! I doubt we'd have the option to sign him if he was a success, would we?:hmmm:



Depends what FC Istres want to do with him. I really hope he is a success but then again, it's up to his parent club and Abdellah as well on what happens after the loan spell.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Lots of managers play players on their wrong side so no idea why you're having a pop at Fenlon.

Coz the players he has done it with are clearly not comfertable with it, we hardly have Robben in our team.

Pat needs to get a team playing football and resembling a team that knows what they are doing. I'd say playing players in their favourite/natural position, would help get us there.

[Spike Mandela]

BBC describing him as a winger but he looked more of an attacking midfielder in the videos than a winger as such. Are BBC just assuming he's a winger because they know hibs are looking for that type of player.:confused:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23897612

Edit watched video again, maybe he is a winger. Looks exciting player. Time will tell.

[The_Horde]

A loan? Hibs cheating their way to success again..

[Craig_in_Prague]

Who are we paying to scout the 2nd league in France?

[CallumLaidlaw]

Official site seems to indicate he won't be available yet due to clearance, but an official tweet seems to indicate it might be done in time

@HibernianFCClub: The wide midfielder impressed manager Pat Fenlon during a week-long trial and hopefully will be available for tomorrow's match #hibees

[CallumLaidlaw]

Who are we paying to scout the 2nd league in France?

Freddie Arpinion apparently

[hfc rd]

Who are we paying to scout the 2nd league in France?



Maybe Boozy.

[Andy74]

Coz the players he has done it with are clearly not comfertable with it, we hardly have Robben in our team.

Pat needs to get a team playing football and resembling a team that knows what they are doing. I'd say playing players in their favourite/natural position, would help get us there.

Well Harris is better on his supposed wrong side.

[FromTheCapital]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHFksrT2Sc&sns=em
This pleases me :thumbsup: Good signing Paddy, now lets get Carson in! :agree:

[Aldo]

From the clips he seems like the creative player we've missed now for a wee bit of pace... Cue Carson.

A couple of other last min purchases or is that it after Carson. Wouldn't mind another CF tbh.

[dangermouse]

Yeah, some, but not enough porn for my liking.

There are other sites for that kind of stuff, so I'm told.

[Hermit Crab]

From the clips he seems like the creative player we've missed now for a wee bit of pace... Cue Carson.

A couple of other last min purchases or is that it after Carson. Wouldn't mind another CF tbh.

Any truth in the hefferman rumour?

[scott7_0(Prague)]

Surley he has some Irish in his family roots - going against the grain and the PF signing policy.:greengrin

[Unseen work]

Well Harris is better on his supposed wrong side.

As is cairney

[Scouse Hibee]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

[Boyle89]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Bamba ;)

[Aritch]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Lilian Martin!

[matty_f]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Really??

[Thecat23]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Sauzee was no bad!!!

Joking aside if you are being serious and writing off a player because of past French players you need to give yourself a shake.

[Aldo]

Any truth in the hefferman rumour?

Don't know mate but Wouldnae mind him tbh.

[Barman Stanton]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Hope your on the wind up again. Or the bevy at least.

[hibees 7062]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Arpinion :agree:

[matty_f]

Arpinion :agree:

Everyone's entitled to one. :agree:

[Stevie Reid]

Everyone's entitled to one. :agree:

:top marks

[Thecat23]

Everyone's entitled to one. :agree:

This really made me laugh :D

[SaulGoodman]

Another french player! Name me one, just one, that has actually been any good.

Joey Barton :greengrin

[--------]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:

[Hibs7]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:

If he is French, then why by European law does he need international clearance .. Nobody else coming from
Europe to work here needs it .... !!!!

[Craig_in_Prague]

As is cairney

steady on lads,
Cairney aint a wide player (well, he IS wide), and Harris hasn't played enough games to say he is better on the left, though granted, at least he IS comfertable there.. (his best game [IMO] was at the PBS on the right). Good that he is happy on either side,
but c'mon.... Done, Sproule, Stevenson, and probably others.....Pat tends to stick terribly one footed players on the wrong side - and if I'm the only one that it bugs, then I will live with it.

[green glory]

Is he a lefty or righty? (so we know where Pat will play him, i.e. the opposite side)

Does it matter if Paddy has him lined up as a replacement for Williams?

[Andy74]

If he is French, then why by European law does he need international clearance .. Nobody else coming from
Europe to work here needs it .... !!!!

It's his football registration that needs cleared. Hibs hopeful he will be available tomorrow though.

[--------]

If he is French, then why by European law does he need international clearance .. Nobody else coming from
Europe to work here needs it .... !!!!


I dunno about that - I just think that this more of the same crud we've had to put up with for far too long now. Smacks of a typical Rod Petrie cut-price, second-best signing.

I guess there'll be no deal for the guy from Ipswich, then?

[--------]

It's his football registration that needs cleared. Hibs hopeful he will be available tomorrow though.


Hope so, but that sounds a bit like them whistling in the dark?

If he is available, I hope for his sake he plays better than Ivan, because if PF had used Ivan properly and held on to him, we wouldn't need to be signing a wide midfield player.

[SaulGoodman]

I dunno about that - I just think that this more of the same crud we've had to put up with for far too long now. Smacks of a typical Rod Petrie cut-price, second-best signing.

I guess there'll be no deal for the guy from Ipswich, then?

Jeezo

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Bonjour Zoubir, welcome to the cabbage!

[hibees 7062]

Everyone's entitled to one. :agree:

My thoughts aswell , seemingly they vary :agree:

[Pete]

;3735919']A loan? Hibs cheating their way to success again..

Pretty much. I can't wait to see the look on his face when his wages aren't paid on time.

[Andy74]

Hope so, but that sounds a bit like them whistling in the dark?

If he is available, I hope for his sake he plays better than Ivan, because if PF had used Ivan properly and held on to him, we wouldn't need to be signing a wide midfield player.

Another Hibs.net myth becomes FACT. Sproule was rubbish second time due to PF.

[brian6-2]

should slot in nicely at right back.................

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Jeezo


Well, all the talk was of Josh Carson, a wide attacking player, reputed to be a useful player. Are we still in for him? Is he likely to sign as well? And do we really need two more midfield players? We've got rather a lot of them already.

Now we've signed this guy - a wide attacking player about whom we've heard nothing. I'm sure it's a done deal - just a few formalities to complete, but a loan deal till the end of next May is exactly the sort of deal we've been seeing far too much of at ER recently ...

Loan deals don't bring a sense of stability to the team or to the club.

We have a 5-year plan for the stadium, but we don't plan more than 10 months ahead on the team?

[Stringer]

Looks a decent signing. We still need a RB though.

[--------]

Another Hibs.net myth becomes FACT. Sproule was rubbish second time due to PF.


Well, he's been playing a lot better since he moved up to Dingwall.

Scoring goals - didn't he score a couple against us?

[Andy74]

Well, all the talk was of Josh Carson, a wide attacking player, reputed to be a useful player. Are we still in for him? Is he likely to sign as well? And do we really need two more midfield players? We've got rather a lot of them already.

Now we've signed this guy - a wide attacking player about whom we've heard nothing. I'm sure it's a done deal - just a few formalities to complete, but a loan deal till the end of next May is exactly the sort of deal we've been seeing far too much of at ER recently ...

Loan deals don't bring a sense of stability to the team or to the club.

We have a 5-year plan for the stadium, but we don't plan more than 10 months ahead on the team?

Are you saying Carson would have been better because you'd heard of hime a few days before this guy?

I don't see anyhting wrong with loan deals here and there, particularly year long ones. Other teams have also used them very well.

[hfc rd]

Well, he's been playing a lot better since he moved up to Dingwall.

Scoring goals - didn't he score a couple against us?


He's only scored one against us. Don't know about a couple?

[PeterboroHibee]

Hopefully he doesnt have neck problems as he is going to spend most of his time watching the ball flying over his head :wink:...

Seriously though Im happy enough with this signing, I think Fenlon is decent enough at spotting a player (although there have been a few shockers in there) and the fact he has been on trial for a week should have given us an even better idea of what hes like. We have needed a winger and we have got one, the fact its a loan deal is a bit disappointing but I can live with that!

It would be nice if we could bring in someone else though (the other boy we are supposed to be looking at?) - along with Cairney and Harris when they are fit would be give Fenlon a nice selection to choose from, something we havent had in terms of wide men for ages.

[eastmainsmsh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHFksrT2Sc :aok:

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Are you saying Carson would have been better because you'd heard of hime a few days before this guy?

I don't see anything wrong with loan deals here and there, particularly year long ones. Other teams have also used them very well.


"Also"? "Very well"? If you say so, Andy. But it implies that WE'VE used them very well, and I would disagree about that. :rolleyes:


I don't know how good Carson is, but it seems strange that we're looking at one guy to play a particular role, then suddenly we're all supposed to be dead chuffed we've signed someone else who apparently plays in that very role.

How many midfield players do we need? When are we going to sign a dependable right-back? What about a striker? Or are we going with 4-5-1, Collins as first-choice and Caldwell back on the bench for another year?

Looks like the same old random, cut-price approach we've suffered since Mowbray left.



Regarding Ivan - from the other thread. The answer you got from kaimendhibs would be mine to you now.

"Andy74: Hope the current team get a better reception. No irony at all in our winger search. He was one of those not doing it for us in that position.

kaimendhibs: But Ivan is a right winger, pat insisted on playing him on the left. No shock he is doing the business at County, on the right."

[sparkiedelpaco7]

How many of us had heard of Boozy before he signed for us? or David Murphy? or Deano? or Russell Latapy? or Benji, Zouma, Ivan?

Give our new players a chance

I dont believe that Pat has made any bad signings this season although some are going to need more time than others such as mullen

Enough of the Underwhelming crap!!

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHFksrT2Sc :aok:

Looks like an attacking mid/left mid. Likes to get forward and take people on:greengrin

[Sean1875]

Been told hes looking pretty decent in training but - understandably- doesnt speak a word of English. We wouldnt have this problem if we just stuck to the Irish market :agree:

[Barney McGrew]

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

McPake came in from Coventry on loan at a point where we absolutely needed his presence. McGivern was a loan that worked out well. Both of those translated into permanent deals.

I'm sure there was a young lad from Wolves whose name escapes me that did OK too :wink:

[Macaroon]

Been told hes looking pretty decent in training but - understandably- doesnt speak a word of English. We wouldnt have this problem if we just stuck to the Irish market :agree:

You ever been to Cork?

[Andy74]

"Also"? "Very well"? If you say so, Andy. But it implies that WE'VE used them very well, and I would disagree about that. :rolleyes:


I don't know how good Carson is, but it seems strange that we're looking at one guy to play a particular role, then suddenly we're all supposed to be dead chuffed we've signed someone else who apparently plays in that very role.

How many midfield players do we need? When are we going to sign a dependable right-back? What about a striker? Or are we going with 4-5-1, Collins as first-choice and Caldwell back on the bench for another year?

Looks like the same old random, cut-price approach we've suffered since Mowbray left.

Regarding Ivan - from the other thread. The answer you got there would be mine to you now.

Originally Posted by Andy74

Hope the current team get a better reception. No irony at all in our winger search. He was one of those not doing it for us in that position.



But Ivan is a right winger, pat insisted on playing him on the left. No shock he is doing the business at County, on the right.

We've had the two players in this week - do you think we've picked the worst one or maybe the one that looked the best in training? Perhaps we will go for both?

We may have a few midfield players but we need fast, creative , wide players, which he is. Incidentally we were already down to our last central midfield player last week.

Sproule played on both sides in his second spell and was pretty poor all round. Yes, he has done okay since joining Ross County but it was right that he was moved on, and its pretty spurious now to go back and lay that blame at Pat's door. That was not the feeling or the case when Sproule was actually playing.

Mowbray signed a few randoms at free or cut price himself, some of whom were very poor, some were very good. Not sure why you think any approach has changed at some point?

[HibeeMassive]

"Also"? "Very well"? If you say so, Andy. But it implies that WE'VE used them very well, and I would disagree about that. :rolleyes:

Griffiths, Claros & McGivern last year - you DON'T think we've used the loan system well??

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Been told hes looking pretty decent in training but - understandably- doesnt speak a word of English. We wouldnt have this problem if we just stuck to the Irish market :agree:

Same with Jorge Claros when he was here... Oh how I miss him!

[tamig]

Good that a player has been signed in an area we are lacking. I'll say one thing for Pat, he is usually good at identifying where we need strengthening if a little slow to do it; see how long he left us lacking in numbers at the back and the process for finding more creative, attack minded players has been a bit of a saga this summer.

No idea what he is like and obviously hope the guy is good and does a turn for us but excuse my lack of excitement for a 21 year old loan signing at the back end of the transfer window from second division French football. That send, maybe French Ligue 2 is a comparable or even higher standard to the SPL.

Looking to him to deliver the creativity, width and pace we are all craving but we'll all be behind him to do it for us.

Were you saying the same when Boozy was picked up by Mowbray?

[Stevie Reid]

Some of the loan players we have signed have been excellent, some very poor, and many inbetween.


With regards to anyone who fell into the latter two categories, it was just as well we didn't sign them permanently, really.

[green.and.white]

I never realised our transfer window shuts tomorrow, that will be our last bit of business then considering we have a game tomorrow

[Heisenberg]

I never realised our transfer window shuts tomorrow, that will be our last bit of business then considering we have a game tomorrow

Hibs normally confirm when transfer business is done do they not?

[rcarter1]

Encouraging to see new options for the team. Doubt the guy will stop the press, but looks a handful, and if he likes to go wide then great. A few more crosses into the box for Collins would be great. Would be interesting to compare and contrast w Sproule vs Ross County if he plays. :agree:

[PeterboroHibee]

Encouraging to see new options for the team. Doubt the guy will stop the press, but looks a handful, and if he likes to go wide then great. A few more crosses into the box for Collins would be great. Would be interesting to compare and contrast w Sproule vs Ross County if he plays. :agree:

Probably a bit unfair to suggest that already. I dont know anything about this guy so probably a bit unfair to comment either way, but if we play to his strengths (of which Fenlon and the players will know about), he will be a complete unknown in this league and could easily stand out (lets face it, the defenders are hardly world beaters).

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Well, all the talk was of Josh Carson, a wide attacking player, reputed to be a useful player. Are we still in for him? Is he likely to sign as well? And do we really need two more midfield players? We've got rather a lot of them already.

Now we've signed this guy - a wide attacking player about whom we've heard nothing. I'm sure it's a done deal - just a few formalities to complete, but a loan deal till the end of next May is exactly the sort of deal we've been seeing far too much of at ER recently ...

Loan deals don't bring a sense of stability to the team or to the club.

We have a 5-year plan for the stadium, but we don't plan more than 10 months ahead on the team?

did Collins/OTJ/McGivern and Craig sign on for only 10 months? Fenlon out, Doddie in :rolleyes:

[The Sea-gull]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:

No need for the tin hat IMHO. Your points are all pefectly valid. Trouble is thoughts based on experience and a bit of realism are often taken as negativity and cycism on here.

[FRes Hibbie]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:

Whilst trying not to be too flippant towards a regular and respected poster is it possible you've woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

We're lacking in width, creativity and pace in midfield and it would seem, from the primitive knowledge we have of the guy, he may possess some or all of these attributes. To me it looks like Fenlon has identified a weakness of ours and Petrie has backed him with the signing of this player. Overall better that this signing has happened than not, at least on the face of it. No?

[Hibby Kay-Yay]

No need for the tin hat IMHO. Your points are all pefectly valid.

Even point 2? Griffiths, McGivern, Claros...

[rcarter1]

Probably a bit unfair to suggest that already. I dont know anything about this guy so probably a bit unfair to comment either way, but if we play to his strengths (of which Fenlon and the players will know about), he will be a complete unknown in this league and could easily stand out (lets face it, the defenders are hardly world beaters).

True, but previously I got myself thinking that Kuqi would storm the league.. Anyway, definitely looking forward to see what he can do, although we may have to wait a while for his registration to come through (from official site).

[Keith_M]

Regarding this being a loan signing; maybe Fenlon had already identified other (non-loan) players but was unable to get them signed up. It might not be what he wanted to do but that was the only option left in the time available.

I do believe Griffiths and Claros were loanees and they did reasonably well over two years or so.

[GreenCastle]

I'm sure I'm with about 99% of Hibs fans and never heard of this guy.

However as others pointed out that doesn't matter.

A loan signing...I wouldn't care if we bring in several loan signings ever season if they help the team

What the key issue is - how good is he ?

Claros was a loan and did well but remember took time to settle.

I am hoping we bring in another player or two as we still don't have enough balance and creativity to set up goals.

[Fergus52]

McPake came in from Coventry on loan at a point where we absolutely needed his presence. McGivern was a loan that worked out well. Both of those translated into permanent deals.

I'm sure there was a young lad from Wolves whose name escapes me that did OK too :wink:

:agree:.

So doddie, I take it you don't rate Mcgivern, claros or griffiths then?

[SteveHFC]

Welcome

[Fergus52]

No need for the tin hat IMHO. Your points are all pefectly valid. Trouble is thoughts based on experience and a bit of realism are often taken as negativity and cycism on here.

There's a difference.

We know nothing about this signing. How you and Doddie can be unhappy with it, I have no idea. (This is assuming that neither of you are Ligue 2 experts.)

We need a wide player, Paddy's brought one in. And still you both complain, having never seen the boy play.

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apologies to Frank....

[frazeHFC]

Looks very good in the video. Tall, skillfull, good passing and a good shot. Can't ask for more just got to hope he does it for us!

[NOLA]

Welcome to the library wee man! :)

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Whilst trying not to be too flippant towards a regular and respected poster is it possible you've woken up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

We're lacking in width, creativity and pace in midfield and it would seem, from the primitive knowledge we have of the guy, he may possess some or all of these attributes. To me it looks like Fenlon has identified a weakness of ours and Petrie has backed him with the signing of this player. Overall better that this signing has happened than not, at least on the face of it. No?

I'm a wee bit more cheerful now that the news about Heffernan is confirmed. It's not so much getting out of bed the wrong side as ingrained pessimism based on a long period of short-term contracts, loan signings and a massive turnover of players in and out of the club.

BUT - I WILL NOT celebrate until it's clear we've turned the corner and Petrie and Farmer are actually investing properly in the future of the TEAM.



Even point 2? Griffiths, McGivern, Claros...

Doherty? O'Donovan? Griffiths WAS class, yet in spite of his wanting to sign for us and being with us for 18 months we failed to move quickly enough to sign him as our own player.

Claros I grant you was also a class act - contrary to what a lot of people on this forum thought before he left (he's now an absolute star and Hibee legend, according to the same guys).

McGivern I'm not fully convinced about - what IS his best position?

But maybe I'm confusing loan signings with some of the short-term signings he's made like Kuqi and Kujabi, And it's not just Fenlon's dealings, either - this has been going on for a long time now.

Maybe it's just that loan signings and short contracts make it clear beyond contradiction how far the club has fallen in the last 10-15 years.

But on the other hand, maybe you're right - perhaps I'm giving in too easily to my inner Eeyore. :wink:

[TheFamous1875]

Surely Ligue 2 is a lot higher than the SPL? I'm not educated on the matter at all, is anyone?


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[Hibdan12]

so what number do you think he'll get? he seemed to wear 11 in the youtube video but am i right in saying cairney has 11?

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

so what number do you think he'll get? he seemed to wear 11 in the youtube video but am i right in saying cairney has 11?


27. Heffernan has 24.

[Eyrie]

Pleased that we've added some skill out wide, so this is a welcome move and let's hope it works out for the kid.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Looks no bad from the You Tube stuff ... but hey ho, you can never tell. W e do need width though and he looks like he could provide that.

Mind you, it looks like the stadium he usually plays in gets less fans than ER ..... lets hope he doesnt get put off by the bigger crowds :greengrin

Welcome to ER mate ..... we are all waiting to love somebody .... why not another Frenchman.

[neil7908]

Good stuff, now let's get Carson in and we'll have a great set of options going forward with Hefferan having joined as well.

[Aldo]

Pleased that we've added some skill out wide, so this is a welcome move and let's hope it works out for the kid.

I'm not so sure he's a winger but more of a creative MF player. Hopefully playing some killer passed in the final 3rd.

Still think we need some pace on the flanks. Can see Carson being the final piece of business this transfer window.

[TheReg!]

This is the man to create and set up goals for our new JC, good times ahead hopefully!

[WestEndHibee]

Surely Ligue 2 is a lot higher than the SPL? I'm not educated on the matter at all, is anyone?


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There's a big drop in standard from ligue 1 to ligue 2. Out of the big leagues It's only really England and Germany (to an extent) that have a strong second league, the championship is by far the strongest second league. So I'd say ligue 2 is possibly on a par with the spl. Still, they often produce a good quality of player in ligue 2 so here's hoping we've bagged one! What a difference a day makes! I'm looking forward to seeing these guys in action!

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

Really looking forward to seeing him play!

[Fergus52]

There's a big drop in standard from ligue 1 to ligue 2. Out of the big leagues It's only really England and Germany (to an extent) that have a strong second league, the championship is by far the strongest second league. So I'd say ligue 2 is possibly on a par with the spl. Still, they often produce a good quality of player in ligue 2 so here's hoping we've bagged one! What a difference a day makes! I'm looking forward to seeing these guys in action!

Celtic aside, I'd say most ligue 2 teams would beat most spl sides.

[JOD]

Surely Ligue 2 is a lot higher than the SPL? I'm not educated on the matter at all, is anyone?


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Just had a look at his recent appearances for Istres. He was on the bench during Apr/May at the end of season and came on twice during the second half. Obviously a bit part player for them but he is still young. His parent club are hoping he is going to get some first team experience with us as he obviously has some raw talent which I hope we'll see but don't want to transfer him as he could end up anything ? Lique 2 in France is very competitive and 3 teams get promoted each year. Other point is that some of his goals on the video were for Grenoble who play in the 4th tier of French football. (due to going bankrupt in 2010)I take it he must have been transferred from them. So all in all he is a bit of a punt so I do believe he has impressed Pat at E M on his week's trial and maybe instead of Hudson and not in addition to. IN PAT WE TRUST :pray:

[neil7908]

Does anyone know if he's been registered for today's game? Or will we have to wait until the squad is announced?

[Thecat23]

We've had the two players in this week - do you think we've picked the worst one or maybe the one that looked the best in training? Perhaps we will go for both?

We may have a few midfield players but we need fast, creative , wide players, which he is. Incidentally we were already down to our last central midfield player last week.

Sproule played on both sides in his second spell and was pretty poor all round. Yes, he has done okay since joining Ross County but it was right that he was moved on, and its pretty spurious now to go back and lay that blame at Pat's door. That was not the feeling or the case when Sproule was actually playing.

Mowbray signed a few randoms at free or cut price himself, some of whom were very poor, some were very good. Not sure why you think any approach has changed at some point?

Well said. Sproule was rotten where ever he was played. One of the most over rated players at ER. First spell he was nothing better than ok. As for doing the business at Ross County he hasn't actually done that much. Started well but faded. I like the guy but Doddie if you think Sproule was a player I'd hate to see who you would bring in.

I'm very happy we have addressed the issues of not having width in the team and signed a proven SPFL striker.

[CallumLaidlaw]

Does anyone know if he's been registered for today's game? Or will we have to wait until the squad is announced?

Club have just said they are waiting on international clearance so will be touch and go

[500miles]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:

We're currently missing our two most creative wide players from last season in Harris and Cairney. They'll be back, and that fits in perfectly with Zoubir only being here temporarily. If he is really good, maybe we can have a crack at signing him, maybe he'll be too good, maybe he'll not be good enough, but the deal does suit us at first glance. Especially since it still allows us to bring in Carson if we can.

[Hibrandenburg]

"Hibernian have agreed terms for French winger Abdellah Zoubir to join the club on loan from FC Istres for the 2013/14 season following a successful trial this week. The 21-year-old is a wide midfielder with Ligue 2 experience in France and manager Pat Fenlon has been impressed with the player - prompting the loan move. All the terms have been agreed and documents signed, but Zoubir will only become a registered player for the club once the documents have been accepted by the authorities and an international Transfer Certificate has been issued by the French Football Federation. As with all cross border transfers, that could take some time. The club will confirm via the official website and official Twitter when the transfer has been formally completed."



Hmm.

One - the deal isn't done until registration is complete. This could "take some time", which means we actually don't know when he'll be available for selection.

Two - a one-year loan signing. Oh goodie. How many of those have been really successful for us over the past few years?

Three - impressed Pat Fenlon after a successful trial. Heard THAT before.

Four - on the plus side, at least we've been told what's going on.

Forgive me for being underwhelmed by this news. A touch of the same old, same old, IMHO.

:tin hat:


Oh yee of little faith!

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[blackpoolhibs]

Well said. Sproule was rotten where ever he was played. One of the most over rated players at ER. First spell he was nothing better than ok. As for doing the business at Ross County he hasn't actually done that much. Started well but faded. I like the guy but Doddie if you think Sproule was a player I'd hate to see who you would bring in.

I'm very happy we have addressed the issues of not having width in the team and signed a proven SPFL striker.

With all due respect, that is just not true. He scored quite a few goals from wide, and consider he was a sub a lot of the time he in my opinion was ,more than just ok.

He also was up there with the most assists in the country too, and he often produced when coming off the bench.

He gave his all for us, and he'd be the first to admit he was not the best player in the world, but he contributed to Hibs having some of their best times in recent history, and is a cup winner.

He will always be better than just ok in my mind.

[Thecat23]

With all due respect, that is just not true. He scored quite a few goals from wide, and consider he was a sub a lot of the time he in my opinion was ,more than just ok.

He also was up there with the most assists in the country too, and he often produced when coming off the bench.

He gave his all for us, and he'd be the first to admit he was not the best player in the world, but he contributed to Hibs having some of their best times in recent history, and is a cup winner.

He will always be better than just ok in my mind.

That's fair dos BH opinions vary. In my view he was bang average nothing more nothing less. He just ran as fast as he could but more often than not the delivery was poor.

[blackpoolhibs]

That's fair dos BH opinions vary. In my view he was bang average nothing more nothing less. He just ran as fast as he could but more often than not the delivery was poor.

Yip opinions eh? :greengrin

[Thecat23]

Yip opinions eh? :greengrin

Haha but I'm right ;)

Watch this he'll score a couple today now!

[blackpoolhibs]

Haha but I'm right ;)

Watch this he'll score a couple today now!

I bloody hope not, :greengrin Have you heard anything about Claros, where he's going?

[Thecat23]

I've not spoke to his agent at all mate for over a week. I'll drop him a text today see if he's coming or if its dead. Shame if it is as I thought he really was showing the player he is.

[Aldo]

I've not spoke to his agent at all mate for over a week. I'll drop him a text today see if he's coming or if its dead. Shame if it is as I thought he really was showing the player he is.

With the players we've brought in, especially I. The MF is there room I. The current squad for him... I don't mean in terms of quality I mean the numbers. Think his time has been and gone tbh which is a shame.

[blackpoolhibs]

I've not spoke to his agent at all mate for over a week. I'll drop him a text today see if he's coming or if its dead. Shame if it is as I thought he really was showing the player he is.

Cheers, a terrific player one i'd love to see back at the club. :agree:

[Fergus52]

With all due respect, that is just not true. He scored quite a few goals from wide, and consider he was a sub a lot of the time he in my opinion was ,more than just ok.

He also was up there with the most assists in the country too, and he often produced when coming off the bench.

He gave his all for us, and he'd be the first to admit he was not the best player in the world, but he contributed to Hibs having some of their best times in recent history, and is a cup winner.

He will always be better than just ok in my mind.

I rated Sproule alot in his first time here, but that's not really true.

not sure about 05/06, but in 06/07 and 07/08 he only managed three in each season.

[blackpoolhibs]

I rated Sproule alot in his first time here, but that's not really true.

not sure about 05/06, but in 06/07 and 07/08 he only managed three in each season.

Do you have the stats for this, as i thought at the time there were stats out that said he'd supplied around 11 or 12 goals each season? :confused:

I can't remember how many goals he scored, but he did chip in with a few too.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

That's fair dos BH opinions vary. In my view he was bang average nothing more nothing less. He just ran as fast as he could but more often than not the delivery was poor.

I agree. Obviously his Ibrox exploits will go down in folklore, but, average sounds about right to me. Sorry BH! ;-)

[blackpoolhibs]

I agree. Obviously his Ibrox exploits will go down in folklore, but, average sounds about right to me. Sorry BH! ;-)

What do you pair know? :greengrin

[Fergus52]

Do you have the stats for this, as i thought at the time there were stats out that said he'd supplied around 11 or 12 goals each season? :confused:

I can't remember how many goals he scored, but he did chip in with a few too.

I checked on the espn stats for those seasons, but thinking I'm back I'm sure he provided alot more than that too.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I thought Crunchie was over rated on here compared to his play for Falkirk, so, you might be on to something!

[Fergus52]

http://espnfc.com/stats/assists/_/league/sco.1/year/2006/scottish-premier-league?cc=5739

I double checked and the whole table seems pretty stingy .

They must be very particular in what merits an assist.

IIRC that was sproules best season for us where he was a regular starter in a strong team, so he must have had more than three.