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Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:07 PM
That's all 5 goals - do you think the commentators are just pulling the plug to hide them pishing themselves laughing?


my guess is that when they stand up to cheer they're pulling the wires out of their microphones. fuds.

Dashing Bob S
25-07-2013, 08:08 PM
Laughing at the Jambos has obscured the fact that Hibs side are a rock solid bottom half of the table SPL outfit. Arguably, we are far weaker now than we were at the end of last season. We've been pumped by a team who are no great shakes, but top of a slightly better league and much fitter.

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:08 PM
I can't disagree with any of them. What gets me is the fact he waits until we are getting hammered to come on and start posting. I can't recall ever seeing him praise Fenlon (or Hibs at all, for that matter). Just look at the Collins thread, any opportunity to have a go at Hibs he takes.



I've posted plenty of positive comments in the past, but I'll admit most of them have been negative since about January 2010. And with bloody good reason. If Fenlon proves me wrong, great. But he hasn't so far.

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 08:08 PM
Could someone explain to me in this technical age how the feed cuts off after every goal?

What breaks an electrical contact during a goal FFS? :rolleyes:

Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:08 PM
What's with this? Is the commentator jumping up to celebrate the goal and pulling out the cable? How can it happen every time?


my guess is that when they stand up to cheer they're pulling the wires out of their microphones. fuds.


I was typing that as your replied! if we've both thought of it it must be true!

truehibernian
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
Nothing coming off for harris

Which is my huge worry for Alex - there are no other players to take up the creative slack and the burden on him already is mammoth.

I'll keep saying pace, pace, pace and pace...........and wingers, wingers, wingers and wingers........until Pat thinks I have footballers tourettes :aok:

PeeJay
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
While they are excuses, I think that at least a couple of them ARE valid. That's no excuse for not being prepared but when you're playing against a team that is already in their season, and doing well, it's tougher for teams like Hibs to compete. Now I'm not making excuses. For all I know Hibs could get beaten this badly by Malmo on any given week, regardless of where we are in the season.

All I'm trying to say is that not every excuse is just an excuse.

We should be better than this though. I'm just thinking about competitive matches played.....when did we last score a goal?

Max - I disagree with you - we knew we had competitive games, we should have prepared more - other Scottish clubs with "lesser" players and fewer resources have done so, and it seems to be paying off ... 0-5 !!! We'll play like this mid season .... if the clown remains in charge.

GlasgowHibee
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
I think it's because of the sound the commentators are shouting at when we concede, time after time.

Liam89
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
my guess is that when they stand up to cheer they're pulling the wires out of their microphones. fuds.


What's with this? Is the commentator jumping up to celebrate the goal and pulling out the cable? How can it happen every time?

Hahahahaha, something about the thought of that just made me laugh so hard.

wazoo1875
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
Hibs are effing pish. Thats a fact guys. Never been hosed like this in our history. Embarrassing and sad. Still I'll be back next week. GGTTH

Halifaxhibby
25-07-2013, 08:09 PM
Sorry Halifaxhibby I didn't mean to quote you there


Dont worry mate, doubt i could feel much worse than i do the now anyway!!!!

nonshinyfinish
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
What's with this? Is the commentator jumping up to celebrate the goal and pulling out the cable? How can it happen every time?


I was typing that as your replied! if we've both thought of it it must be true!

And again...

Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
bbc cut out again so 6 yeah?

Steve20
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
How Fenlon can be defended now is beyond me. There is nothing. Defence even worse than ever, midfield a joke and strikers??? What strikers??

PeeJay
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
0-6 - Williams after a direct free kick!

Hibs7
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
5-0 at home and it isn't over yet .... Explain that one Pat Fenlon .... !!!

GlasgowHibee
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
Get fenlon to ****.

K.Marx
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
Don't usually leave games early but was away after the 4th tonight. Embarrassingly inept performance. Don't even think they're a particularly great side but the way they cut through us was reminiscent of the friendly with Barcelona we had years back!! Defence was shambolic as per.

kdhibees1
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
6 nil. Cricket score not far away!:brickwall

Bristolhibby
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
8-0 agg, FFS!

HiBremian
25-07-2013, 08:10 PM
Is it 5??

No. 6.

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Under Petrie we are breaking all kinds of records!

Wembley67
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Yup 6

Halifaxhibby
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Could someone explain to me in this technical age how the feed cuts off after every goal?

What breaks an electrical contact during a goal FFS? :rolleyes:


So they can all cheer and have a good laugh.

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
I can't disagree with any of them. What gets me is the fact he waits until we are getting hammered to come on and start posting. I can't recall ever seeing him praise Fenlon (or Hibs at all, for that matter). Just look at the Collins thread, any opportunity to have a go at Hibs he takes.



I've posted plenty of positive comments in the past, but I'll admit most of them have been negative since about January 2010. And with bloody good reason. If Fenlon proves me wrong, great. But he hasn't so far.

Most of my criticism is aimed at the board anyway for continually getting it wrong with their appointments.

nonshinyfinish
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
Have to laugh, eh.

Have to laugh or you'd jump in front of a f***ing train.

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 08:11 PM
OK. Everyone stay in the box.

Del Boy
25-07-2013, 08:12 PM
This is worse than anyone could have ever imagined.

patch1875
25-07-2013, 08:12 PM
This is a sackable offence

SaulGoodman
25-07-2013, 08:12 PM
I'm glad we've got that scoreboard, I keep forgetting the score :greengrin

Sylar
25-07-2013, 08:12 PM
Equals the worst ever European scoreline against Roma.

Marvellous! :aok:

Hibs7
25-07-2013, 08:12 PM
Can't wait for the post match interview !!!

RoxburghHibs
25-07-2013, 08:13 PM
OK. Everyone stay in the box.

This is so bad that for me Fenlon has to go.

Sylar
25-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Can't wait for the post match interview !!!

I hope the BBC aren't conducting it...

Heisenberg
25-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Disgusting performance from every hibs player.

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:13 PM
Really annoys me how time and again we complain about having a ***** manager.

Who appoints these idiots?



Ultimately, that is the biggest problem we've had, probably since Mowbray left.

K.Marx
25-07-2013, 08:13 PM
I thought 0-4 at home was bad enough. This is sickening.

WestEndHibee
25-07-2013, 08:14 PM
I'm glad we've got that scoreboard, I keep forgetting the score :grenngrin

Haha we might need to do a Rangers and just switch it off.

HiBremian
25-07-2013, 08:14 PM
I'm glad we've got that scoreboard, I keep forgetting the score :grenngrin

I only got a Maths Higher. Can anyone work out how many we need to score to win on aggregate?

spike220
25-07-2013, 08:14 PM
When Fenlon said..."If we pack Easter Road anything is possible.." This is not quite what I had in mind :cb

InterviewLoI
25-07-2013, 08:14 PM
I only got a Maths Higher. Can anyone work out how many we need to score to win on aggregate?

9

YehButNoBut
25-07-2013, 08:14 PM
Worst home results (I can find) in Europe by Scottish clubs are as below, so as it stands this is the worst home score by any Scottish club in European competitions, not good at all. :boo hoo:

Aberdeen 09/10 Sigma Olomouc 1-5
Dundee Utd 90/91 Vitesse 0-4
Dunfermline 62/63 Valencia 0-4
Gretna 06/07 Derry City 1-5
Hearts 58/59 Standard Liege 1-5
Hearts 84/85 PSG 0-4
Hearts 11/12 Spurs 0-5

Happy to be proved wrong.

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 08:15 PM
Every time I hear RANTI, Malmo score!

Springbank
25-07-2013, 08:15 PM
This is a sackable offence

Agreed. I took my four year old away at half time

Awful

Captain Trips
25-07-2013, 08:15 PM
Rosenborg result even if they lose out in end really does put this into context, a total disgrace.

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:15 PM
This post just sums you up for me. You're more interested in getting proved right than actually seeing Hibs do well. Can't stand fans with attitudes like that.


Complete bull. I'd rather be wrong. But if I think something's wrong at the club, why shouldn't I say so? If some people within the club did the same thing maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

WestEndHibee
25-07-2013, 08:16 PM
When Fenlon said..."If we pack Easter Road anything is possible.." This is not quite what I had in mind :cb

:greengrin posts like these keep me sane.

nonshinyfinish
25-07-2013, 08:16 PM
I only got a Maths Higher. Can anyone work out how many we need to score to win on aggregate?

Based on that favourite European fallacy of inept commentators, 'away goals count double', we need 15 to win. Clock's ticking, Hibs.

Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:16 PM
so another 20 odd minutes of pain left, then time to avoid .net (or at least the mb) for a couple of days its gonna be a bloodbath of recrimination, personal abuse and yam trolls. this is painfully ****.

SaulGoodman
25-07-2013, 08:16 PM
I only got a Maths Higher. Can anyone work out how many we need to score to win on aggregate?

7 to the power of 74..

Or something

hulk
25-07-2013, 08:16 PM
Absolutely shocking for a club of our stature

Del Boy
25-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Resign you clueless idiot

SteveHFC
25-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Complete *****bag's

Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:17 PM
cut out again!!!!!!!!! so its 7 i take it?

PeeJay
25-07-2013, 08:18 PM
0-7 - Fenlon, should seriously consider resigning this evening after the game ...

pontius pilate
25-07-2013, 08:18 PM
I've supported Fenlon under past results but he has to go. The preparation for this game is utterly sham olio ****ing 7-0 how embarrassing for us the fans shocking

nonshinyfinish
25-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Based on that favourite European fallacy of inept commentators, 'away goals count double', we need 15 to win. Clock's ticking, Hibs.

BBC cut out, so assuming we now need 17.

GlasgowHibee
25-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Awful, absolutely awful.

spike220
25-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Well that is just Dandy.

YehButNoBut
25-07-2013, 08:19 PM
Don't think I've ever been so disappointed with a Hibs score (yes even that cup final) this must be one of the worst results in our history.

Don't know where Fenlon goes from here.

London Hibs FC
25-07-2013, 08:19 PM
Is this our biggest home defeat ever?

HIBERNIAN-0762
25-07-2013, 08:19 PM
The end of the road for PF now I would say

Off the bar
25-07-2013, 08:20 PM
I remember a few tankings in the mid 90's from the team formerly known as Rangers, but when was the last time we got done by 7?

truehibernian
25-07-2013, 08:20 PM
The end of the road for PF now I would say

I fear you could be correct mate.

patch1875
25-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Hope our next signings a defender edit manager

essexhibee
25-07-2013, 08:20 PM
Will Fenlon keep his job after this?

BSEJVT
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Whatever Fenlons attributes are he has presided over the three worst defensive performances I can recall in watching hibs for 40 odd years in the last 15 months and for that alone should get the bullet tomorrow.

Whilst I know we have conceded more goals than the 5 v hearts 4 v Falkirk and 7 to date tonight, they were against far better teams and were generally goals scored rather than handed on a plate.

If he can't organise a defence and midfield shield for it with the players he has signed we are totally screwed.

Harris aside we have nothing going forward.

Sad sad times

Onceinawhile
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Disgusting - fenlon can gtf.

essexhibee
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Make this end ffs

GlasgowHibee
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Who are we going to replace Fenlon with?

hulk
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Ffs. - what the f..c is going on

HiBremian
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Based on that favourite European fallacy of inept commentators, 'away goals count double', we need 15 to win. Clock's ticking, Hibs.

Think we managed that against Peebles Rovers .

....Straw clutching emoticon...

Liam89
25-07-2013, 08:21 PM
Seven. ****ing seven. S e v e n. 7.

Simkin911
25-07-2013, 08:22 PM
Embarrassing evening for the club, history and supporters.

Greenblood70
25-07-2013, 08:22 PM
Utterly shamblolic. Wouldn't bother me if I never saw any of the current squad wear the jersey again. Absolutely *****.

Halifaxhibby
25-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Thats it for me, i wont be back this season. they can stick their training dump up their jimmy carter and GTF, feel so sorry for lawrie's family, what a disrespect to them.
Absolute shambles of a club from top to bottom.

Magnifique
25-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Who are we going to replace Fenlon with?

McCall, but think he'd think twice about what this club could do to him

HiBremian
25-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Hibs fans surviving on ironic ole's....

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:23 PM
Don't think I've ever been so disappointed with a Hibs score (yes even that cup final) this must be one of the worst results in our history.

Don't know where Fenlon goes from here.



I think we can guess. But other people - Petrie and the other people who keep on appointing these guys - really need to consider their position. Teams like Motherwell and Inverness seem to keep on getting it right. We don't.

It is maybe time for Farmer to get involved as I'm sure he'd have intervened if any of his other businesses were failing like this.

andy1875
25-07-2013, 08:24 PM
Not only is this a disgrace on a special night for Lawrie.

This will without doubt have an effect an the start to our season. Morale/confidence/feel good factor/potential support at early season home games.

All shot to pieces.

Disaster of the highest order tonight. I really hope I'm wrong with all of the above.

SteveHFC
25-07-2013, 08:24 PM
Fenlon out

HIBERNIAN-0762
25-07-2013, 08:25 PM
They ask us to turn up in numbers and we do, for what? to watch this *****?

An utter embarrassment of a result.

Sorry Lawrie Reilly, you must be spinning in your grave.

RoxburghHibs
25-07-2013, 08:25 PM
Why us? Why the **** is it always us! Not good enough Fenlon and that entire defence should walk

sesoim
25-07-2013, 08:26 PM
God knows what Collins is thinking just now!

Springbank
25-07-2013, 08:27 PM
Boys. And. Girls.

This is a typical pat Fenlon score

Falkirk should've done thus at hampden (let alone hearts)

He has to go or it will keep happening

K.Marx
25-07-2013, 08:27 PM
Surely Fenlon cannot stay after this. I actually feel more embaressed by this than I did by 1-5. Pathetic.

RMQ1967
25-07-2013, 08:28 PM
Never underestimate the ability of Hibs to provide the most spectacular failure at every major occasion. Think of the worst that could possibly happen & double it & you won't be far away. I didn't think any team could provide more humiliation to the club than the shambles in that cup final but this lot will be up there with the worst of them in the halls of shame. Wreched sickening performance.

West hamBERNIAN
25-07-2013, 08:33 PM
If they hump Swansea will you all go back? The board just back pat with a 200 k signing. Apparently. Can't see him going.

neil7908
25-07-2013, 08:34 PM
Left after the 5th goal, wish I'd gone at half time now. Trying to not go for a knee-jerk reaction but Fenlon's position must be in jeopardy. In the biggest games he has been in charge of Hibs (Hearts final, Falkirk semi, Celtic final and tonight) we've had one 45 minutes of decent football against team in the league below us. The other 315 minutes have been truly abysmal.

Losing by that score is just not one, don't care how good Malmo are, I would be unhappy losing by that margin to Barca or Bayern.

We really need extra bodies in before the end of the transfer window and Pat really needs to show he is the man to lead the team as I cant stomach us embarrassing ourselves in big games for much longer.

YehButNoBut
25-07-2013, 08:34 PM
At least we've cheered keekback up they are just loving it, especially 7-0, even 8 might be better. We will need to improve massively to beat them at Tynie and this is going to knock the stuffing out the team big time.

Holmesdale Hibs
25-07-2013, 08:36 PM
WTF. We've reached a new low. ****in disgrace.

Ell_Chrisso
25-07-2013, 08:42 PM
Surely no one expected a 3-0 win?!

Del Boy
25-07-2013, 09:32 PM
After hearing Fenlon on radio I think he might throw in the towel.

Andy74
25-07-2013, 09:34 PM
Didn't quite expect this but I think on that type of display every team in Scotland would have got a pasting off them. Quick and very clinical.

We do need a McPake replacement very quickly!

Nothing else I can say really !

SaulGoodman
25-07-2013, 09:35 PM
After hearing Fenlon on radio I think he might throw in the towel.

:agree:

He sounded more depressed than Collins when he heard Swindon accepted our bid!

lucky
25-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Still a bit shell shocked. Not sure if we were that bad or they were that good. But FFS to lose 0-7 at home is unacceptable. The feel good factor that has built up over the last few days has been blown up again. Hibs need to start the season well or PF is under real pressure. That 12-0 that we have lost in our last 3 games. Just not good enough.

Cameron1875
25-07-2013, 09:37 PM
What can u say to that! Must admit I was quite surprised so many fans stayed till the end so fair play. Can a manager be sacked pre season?! We have had 2 of the worst results in our history under him and he got let off the hook against Falkirk. The extra 4/5000 punters that came through the door won't be back either :(

GlesgaeHibby
25-07-2013, 09:38 PM
Fenlon has to go. The team has absolutely no direction or organisation, our fitness levels are frankly embarassing, and the predictable long balls up to players that can't win long balls are shocking. We aren't moving in the right direction. Two great cup runs have hid the fact that we are making no progress. Take them out of the equation and he'd be long gone.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
25-07-2013, 09:38 PM
"@GrahamStack1: “@BBCBMcLauchlin:Where do Hibs go from here? Not just tonight but the rest of the season. With a week to go, what does Pat Fenlon do?” Leave"

AFKA5814_Hibs
25-07-2013, 09:38 PM
Surely no one expected a 3-0 win?!

No. But I don't think anbody expected the biggest European aggregate defeat in Scottish football history. Management and players alike should be wholly embarrased after that.

Simkin911
25-07-2013, 09:38 PM
Embarrassing evening. New Scottish record for Euro home defeat?? Like others have said - it wasn't versus Bayern or Barca either.

YehButNoBut
25-07-2013, 09:38 PM
Didn't quite expect this but I think on that type of display every team in Scotland would have got a pasting off them. Quick and very clinical.

We do need a McPake replacement very quickly!

Nothing else I can say really !

Has McPake been lying about his fitness to save his career, it looks like he has been nowhere near fit, probably never play for us again.

BOB MARLEYS DUG
25-07-2013, 09:39 PM
"@GrahamStack1: Stack- Murray- Hogg- Bamba- Wotherspoon- Millar- Rankin- McBride- Zemmama- Riordan- Stokes #GoneBackwards #Finished4th #YogiWasntThatBad"

davieh
25-07-2013, 09:39 PM
Totally gutted. No faith in Fenlon whatsoever now....he thought the 3-0 display in the cup final was OK. This was worse that Calderwood's time. Where's the progress?

Treadstone
25-07-2013, 09:40 PM
I must have been a c*** in a previous life.:dunno:

RickyS
25-07-2013, 09:40 PM
:agree:

He sounded more depressed than Collins when he heard Swindon accepted our bid!


cant find it on the bbc website, anyone got a link?

PapillonVert
25-07-2013, 09:40 PM
:agree:

He sounded more depressed than Collins when he heard Swindon accepted our bid!

He has to resign. This is the worst result in the club's history. Absolute rock bottom.


I have been a fan for decades, since the late 1960s and seen many ups and downs but we now have the worst players and manager IMO.

We are now at absolute rock bottom.

Seekyit
25-07-2013, 09:41 PM
Boys. And. Girls.

This is a typical pat Fenlon score

Falkirk should've done thus at hampden (let alone hearts)

He has to go or it will keep happening

It took me ages to get on here tonight.

This is the first post i read...

calmac12000
25-07-2013, 09:41 PM
I cannae think of anything:shocked: positive to say.

Hibby Bairn
25-07-2013, 09:42 PM
Still a bit shell shocked. Not sure if we were that bad or they were that good. But FFS to lose 0-7 at home is unacceptable. The feel good factor that has built up over the last few days has been blown up again. Hibs need to start the season well or PF is under real pressure. That 12-0 that we have lost in our last 3 games. Just not good enough.

C'mon lucky he must be under absolutely crushing pressure tonight. There is no way back from that.

I expect to wake up tomorrow morning and he has been sacked. Failure on the board's part if it doesn't happen,

Heisenberg
25-07-2013, 09:42 PM
No chance Fenlon will be away any time soon. He should be after that though.

Simkin911
25-07-2013, 09:43 PM
He has to resign. This is the worst result in the club's history. Absolute rock bottom.


I have been a fan for decades, since the late 1960s and seen many ups and downs but we now have the worst players and manager IMO.

We are now at absolute rock bottom.

I still think we have some good players individually - better than a few other spl teams but the team and the performance tonight under Fenlon was disgraceful.

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 09:45 PM
Fenlon won't resign.

I watched him being interviewed a few months ago and I thought. "He's not got a clue".

Woe betide if I had said anything on here tho!

davieh
25-07-2013, 09:45 PM
No chance Fenlon will be away any time soon. He should be after that though.
If tarnishing the magic of "7-0" isn't a sacking offence, I don't know what is...

Hiber-nation
25-07-2013, 09:46 PM
No chance Fenlon will be away any time soon. He should be after that though.

I've backed him up until now but I'd be amazed if he's still here next week. How untenable does it have to be?

Cameron1875
25-07-2013, 09:48 PM
His time is up now i'm afraid. Changing managers a lot doesn't help but no point keeping a crap one just because we don't want upheaval!

SkintHibby
25-07-2013, 09:49 PM
If Fenlon walks I wonder which next Marinho Rod has planned FFS!

PapillonVert
25-07-2013, 09:50 PM
After hearing Fenlon on radio I think he might throw in the towel.

0-7 at home? I do not think he has a choice.

Heisenberg
25-07-2013, 09:50 PM
I just can see Petrie sacking him having backed him with a new 200k striker. Pat dosent strike me as being the kind of guy to walk away either.

The_Exile
25-07-2013, 09:51 PM
Observations from tonight: We've just *****ed 200k on the wrong end of the pitch, we will miss Claros more than Griffiths, and I usually defend Pat but would raise a glass if he walked tomorrow. Positives? Massive experience for our young lads, if their attitude is correct then that result will almost force them into becoming better players.

Brightside
25-07-2013, 09:51 PM
Team set up wrong from the start. Hardly a peep from the bench for the whole game. Players miles off the pace. Picking a player who is done at the game. There are no positives for Fenlon I'm afraid. Even when they were 4 up the Malmo coach was screaming at his players. I'm sick of having unfit slow non trying players. malmo were very good but we had no chance as soon as he picked that team and formation.

Stuarty1875
25-07-2013, 09:52 PM
Complete shambles tonight. Didn't expect us to go through but though we might at least but in a decent performance. Any good will for Fenlon from the 2nd half against Falkirk and hearts win has now gone.

Simply not good enough.

Devine
25-07-2013, 09:54 PM
He got saved by 75 mins of part Hibs storming comeback (mostly Harris/Griffiths) and part 1st division team collapse. He was a lucky lucky man to still be here, hes been given a summer to mould a better team yet the first 2 outings have shown we are a complete shambles AGAIN. I dont buy the fact they are into their season, fitter and a better team that may all be true and had we been edged out by a goal or 2 I would be willing to take that on board. They are a decent European side no more than that to get thumped 7-0 at home is an absolute disgrace and shows a complete lack of organisation and cohesion that is FENLONS fault.

What is even more galling is that result could easily have happened last week and only poor finishing and great goalkeeping prevented it. WTF has he been doing all week where was the plan to deal with the OBVIOUS threats they posed, that is the managers job, to devise a plan on how to deal with the oppositions strengths but no we let them run riot again! TOTAL SHAMBLES!

PapillonVert
25-07-2013, 09:55 PM
Totally gutted. No faith in Fenlon whatsoever now....he thought the 3-0 display in the cup final was OK. This was worse that Calderwood's time. Where's the progress?

I know what you're saying but who would you have and how would you make sure he made the players preform?

Gerard
25-07-2013, 09:55 PM
0-7 at home? I do not think he has a choice.
Sad to say. Getting beat 7-0 is on a scale of 1 to s. It has to be S.
The question is who next for the manager at Hibs?

RMQ1967
25-07-2013, 09:56 PM
Never underestimate the ability of Hibs to provide the most spectacular failure at every major occasion. Think of the worst that could possibly happen & double it & you won't be far away. I didn't think any team could provide more humiliation to the club than the shambles in that cup final but this lot will be up there with the worst of them in the halls of shame. Wreched sickening performance.

cabbageandribs1875
25-07-2013, 09:56 PM
I just can see Petrie sacking him having backed him with a new 200k striker. Pat dosent strike me as being the kind of guy to walk away either.



PF won't be going anywhere, not for a few months yet, but if he insists on avoiding the glaring p@shness that our defence have been for 2 years now he might be getting 'mutualised' a little earlier




oh and p.s. for the 1,000,000th time.........get andy webster in to that defence, even if half his leg is ****** broken GET HIM IN

JoeTortolanoFanClub
25-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Team set up wrong from the start. Hardly a peep from the bench for the whole game. Players miles off the pace. Picking a player who is done at the game. There are no positives for Fenlon I'm afraid. Even when they were 4 up the Malmo coach was screaming at his players. I'm sick of having unfit slow non trying players. malmo were very good but we had no chance as soon as he picked that team and formation.

You have summed it up perfectly. Fenlon is not up to it. But there is something more fundamentally wrong at our club. I never want to see such a gutless performance again.

Onion
25-07-2013, 10:01 PM
Boys. And. Girls.

This is a typical pat Fenlon score

Falkirk should've done thus at hampden (let alone hearts)

He has to go or it will keep happening

Until now, I've never questions PF's position. He had an almost impossible job to do at ER when he took over a club in utter disarray. That bought him a lot of time and understanding. The two cup finals have also bought him a lot of credit with the fans, and rightly so. He is also vg in front of the press.

Now, however, I'm thinking that semifinal v Falkirk might just turn out to be his Jim Duffy moment. Duffy had the exact same situation when we were getting hammered by Hearts (2-0 going on 5-0) at HT and we managed to scrape out a draw. That saved JDs skin that day and sadly resulted in us getting relegated, as Duffy was indeed a dreadful manager who was out of his depth. I'm now starting to think Pat is the same - completely out of his depth. He has now presided over some of the worst defeats in our proud club's history and some of the most inept performances. Tactically, he hasn't really got a clue. He has no idea how to set up a team, change a game or use substitutes effectively. The style of football we play is negative, uninspiring and light years behind club's like Motherwell and St Johnstone.

But sadly replacing the manager is IMHO not even the answer to our club's problems so maybe we're just as well sticking with Pat - why not. The root of the problem goes much much deeper at Easter Road and will not be resolved until we change the culture and recruitment policy. Years ago, I would have protested, demanded change, demanded better. But now, I'm getting closer to doing what many many loyal Hibs fans have started doing - not bothering.

Also think tonight's embarrassment to Scottish Football will make the powers that be rethink the qualification for Euro places. No question, Hibs were a bottom six side with a special player that helped us punch well above our weight. That player has gone and we can all now see what we're left with. Rant over.

Hibby Bairn
25-07-2013, 10:04 PM
0-7 (0-9) FFS

:taxi

Biggie
25-07-2013, 10:06 PM
Seriously worried about the start of the season (again)..........got to get Rid of him, he's not got a clue......jambos on my FB are beating one out tonight. (*****)

Mr Grieves
25-07-2013, 10:08 PM
Observations from tonight: We've just *****ed 200k on the wrong end of the pitch, we will miss Claros more than Griffiths, and I usually defend Pat but would raise a glass if he walked tomorrow. Positives? Massive experience for our young lads, if their attitude is correct then that result will almost force them into becoming better players.


I don't think we have *****ed 200k on the wrong end of the pitch, we're as dire in attack as we are in defence. how many shots did we have on target tonight?

Onion
25-07-2013, 10:10 PM
If tarnishing the magic of "7-0" isn't a sacking offence, I don't know what is...

Nothing tarnished. We got beat 7-0 by the Huns under Miller and it's never mentioned.

Bristolhibby
25-07-2013, 10:12 PM
The culture is ****ed at Hibs. Has been for years.

No idea how to change it, but changing it in FTSE 100 companies takes years and we've been at it for a decade.

I honestly don't know what is to be done.

Sazuee
Blooby
Mogga
Mixu
JC
Yogi
Caldwell
Fenlon

None of them succeeded in changing anything. Our culture cripples us. Having a good few of youngsters has papered over the cracks.

Take a look at

Motherwell
ICT
Ross County
St. Johnstone

Sadly that's where we should be aiming.

J

21.05.2016
25-07-2013, 10:16 PM
Dear oh dear.

Thought Malmo played some brilliant football tonight and are obviously a much stronger, more organised, all round better team. However, we were absolutely rank. Again we had a shaky back four thats just a bombscare. We have no leadership on the park anymore, McPake used to take command and keep everyone organised and instructed but I just can't see that as much in him anymore i'm afraid.

Absolutely not good enough and big big changes need to be made or we are going to seriously struggle in the league campaign. I can even see that team getting humped in the derby despite hearts having a very very young, inexperienced make shift team.

I've stood by Fenlon for a long long time and defended him and wanted to give him time but unfortunately i'm severely loosing patience with him now.

HFC 0-7
25-07-2013, 10:18 PM
Didn't quite expect this but I think on that type of display every team in Scotland would have got a pasting off them. Quick and very clinical.

We do need a McPake replacement very quickly!

Nothing else I can say really !

Come on andy, they never played that well, they are not THAT good a team. Guys on the radio after the game were saying malmo are a good side but they are not that good. We gifted goals today again and never threatened.

Onion
25-07-2013, 10:23 PM
After hearing Fenlon on radio I think he might throw in the towel.

Then we need to sack him now for everyone's sake. He was in charge and can only look to himself and his own managerial abilities for what happened tonight. If he doesn't have the answers, if he doesn't know why this happened and can rationalise it, then he should simply go now - and let us try bring in a manager who does have some of the answers or at the very least arrests the series of historic embarrassing results/performances that Pat has overseen. Unfortunately, I have 0% faith that the current Hibs Board know the first thing about recruiting a decent manager or changing the culture of the club for the good. Sacking Pat treats the symptoms, not the cause.

LancashireHibby
25-07-2013, 10:25 PM
Come on andy, they never played that well, they are not THAT good a team. Guys on the radio after the game were saying malmo are a good side but they are not that good. We gifted goals today again and never threatened.

The chances still needed creating and finishing though. The speed they moved the ball around and the movement up front was just on another level to the SPL. Will be very interesting to see how they get on at Swansea.

Seekyit
25-07-2013, 10:26 PM
Until now, I've never questions PF's position. He had an almost impossible job to do at ER when he took over a club in utter disarray. That bought him a lot of time and understanding. The two cup finals have also bought him a lot of credit with the fans, and rightly so. He is also vg in front of the press.

Now, however, I'm thinking that semifinal v Falkirk might just turn out to be his Jim Duffy moment. Duffy had the exact same situation when we were getting hammered by Hearts (2-0 going on 5-0) at HT and we managed to scrape out a draw. That saved JDs skin that day and sadly resulted in us getting relegated, as Duffy was indeed a dreadful manager who was out of his depth. I'm now starting to think Pat is the same - completely out of his depth. He has now presided over some of the worst defeats in our proud club's history and some of the most inept performances. Tactically, he hasn't really got a clue. He has no idea how to set up a team, change a game or use substitutes effectively. The style of football we play is negative, uninspiring and light years behind club's like Motherwell and St Johnstone.

But sadly replacing the manager is IMHO not even the answer to our club's problems so maybe we're just as well sticking with Pat - why not. The root of the problem goes much much deeper at Easter Road and will not be resolved until we change the culture and recruitment policy. Years ago, I would have protested, demanded change, demanded better. But now, I'm getting closer to doing what many many loyal Hibs fans have started doing - not bothering.

Also think tonight's embarrassment to Scottish Football will make the powers that be rethink the qualification for Euro places. No question, Hibs were a bottom six side with a special player that helped us punch well above our weight. That player has gone and we can all now see what we're left with. Rant over.

Tricky one that as i think Platini tried to do away with Cup runners up qualifying for Europe but reneged on it for some reason. Wouldn't have denied the likes of Queen Of The South their moment in history though. But I hear what you're saying, perhaps we could have done without Europa League qualifiers this season.

I only hope that in a few weeks we'll have moved on as best we can and actually see some sort of team pulling together. Emphasis on the hope.

HFC 0-7
25-07-2013, 10:34 PM
The chances still needed creating and finishing though. The speed they moved the ball around and the movement up front was just on another level to the SPL. Will be very interesting to see how they get on at Swansea.

Rubbish, we were pish they were pretty good. We still showed them too much, let people un marked. .net still got the people on it that would rather make excuses for us getting beat rather than accepting we were utter pish. Last week it was 'they are better because they are half way into their season', which st johnstone seemed to deal with. This week it's because malmo are immense, different planet to the spl. Same team that a mid table Irish team drew with and got beat 2 - 0 overall.

i never expected us to win, but I expected us to compete, we played bad they played ok.

LancashireHibby
25-07-2013, 10:39 PM
Rubbish, we were pish they were pretty good. We still showed them too much, let people un marked. .net still got the people on it that would rather make excuses for us getting beat rather than accepting we were utter pish. Last week it was 'they are better because they are half way into their season', which st johnstone seemed to deal with. This week it's because malmo are immense, different planet to the spl. Same team that a mid table Irish team drew with and got beat 2 - 0 overall.

i never expected us to win, but I expected us to compete, we played bad they played ok.
No excuses, just facing reality that we lost to a far better side. Maybe not seven goals better than us and certainly not making it any less of an embarrassment, but they were streets ahead of us, simple as that. In all fairness, they could have scored a similar number last week had it not been for Williams.

Glory Lurker
25-07-2013, 10:43 PM
Tricky one that as i think Platini tried to do away with Cup runners up qualifying for Europe but reneged on it for some reason. Wouldn't have denied the likes of Queen Of The South their moment in history though. But I hear what you're saying, perhaps we could have done without Europa League qualifiers this season.

I only hope that in a few weeks we'll have moved on as best we can and actually see some sort of team pulling together. Emphasis on the hope.


They didn't remotely embarrass themselves, either.

gramskiwood
25-07-2013, 10:44 PM
It is now time for Tom Farmer to step away from the club.

HFC 0-7
25-07-2013, 10:47 PM
No excuses, just facing reality that we lost to a far better side. Maybe not seven goals better than us and certainly not making it any less of an embarrassment, but they were streets ahead of us, simple as that. In all fairness, they could have scored a similar number last week had it not been for Williams.

They are a better side, miles ahead of us, but that's not to say they are amazing and miles ahead of spl teams. Yes their chances needed creating and finishing but we made it easy for them. Bags of room, inviting pressure, dodgy marking. We are making them sound like they could in the champions league. We didn't work as a team, people looked like they didnt know what they were meant to do. Worst home defeat possibly? Worst defeat by a Scottish team in Europe? 7 - 0 and they had taken their foot off the gas!

Something is wrong at the club, st johnstone just progressed against a similar side with 2 of our old players in Wotherspoon and cregg and we shave one of their best. Today's result was not a reflection of how good malmo were or how bad the spl is. It's a reflection of how bad we are!

Hibercelona
25-07-2013, 10:52 PM
They are a better side, miles ahead of us, but that's not to say they are amazing and miles ahead of spl teams. Yes their chances needed creating and finishing but we made it easy for them. Bags of room, inviting pressure, dodgy marking. We are making them sound like they could in the champions league. We didn't work as a team, people looked like they didnt know what they were meant to do. Worst home defeat possibly? Worst defeat by a Scottish team in Europe? 7 - 0 and they had taken their foot off the gas!

Something is wrong at the club, st johnstone just progressed against a similar side with 2 of our old players in Wotherspoon and cregg and we shave one of their best. Today's result was not a reflection of how good malmo were or how bad the spl is. It's a reflection of how bad we are!

Any player that comes to Hibs seems to have their balls chopped off and held on ice, until they're ready to move to another club.

That's certainly how it seems...

Hibernia&Alba
25-07-2013, 11:54 PM
I still can't believe it. I will need to allow the dust to settle before I can make any judgment about tonight, such is my state of shock.

WeeCraigy
26-07-2013, 12:10 AM
Why were people in the east booing/whistling every time the malmo number 3 (right back I think) got on the ball?